• He will fold like the $2 suitcase that he is.

  • comment on a post Diocese Puts Pfleger on Leave over 6 years ago

    like Trinity "United"?

    We learned over the weekend that this creature Pfleger was a frequent guest speaker there. Maybe he and Jeremiah Wright could have a face-off to see who can spew more bile? It would be the greatest thing since Alien vs. Predator!

    The Obma-orons can't have it both ways. Barack himself FINALLY admitted that Rev.Wright's speech was divisive and hateful.

    So again: what kind of man would take two small children to listen to that kind of hate? Those two kids will need years of therapy....

  • There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. However, I have never spoken to an Obama supporter who was willing to cite any flaws in their candidate...not one.

    Most of us don't follow a candidate in lockstep...we do an evaluation of pros and cons, and arrive at a judgment as to which candidate is the best fit with our aspirations and goals for the country. The Obam-orons who speak of his brilliance, messenger of hope, and all that bullshit will be the first ones to turn on him in the unlikely event he is elected. Because there is no way he will be able to live up to their lofty expectations...nobody could.

    My point is that having gone through my more intellectual approach, Senator Clinton was my first choice, McCain a distant second, and Barack a very distant third. For me, it's all very logical.

    SO--it's very presumptuous of you to think that any one will be "playing" us, or needs to. Many of us will support John McCain on our own--albeit as the lesser of two evils--but with votes, money, and maybe a little shoe leather if we get really motivated.

  • There is no such thing as a perfect candidate. However, I have never spoken to an Obama supporter who was willing to cite any flaws in their candidate...not one.

    Most of us don't follow a candidate in lockstep...we do an evaluation of pros and cons, and arrive at a judgment as to which candidate is the best fit with our aspirations and goals for the country. The Obam-orons who speak of his brilliance, messenger of hope, and all that bullshit will be the first ones to turn on him in the unlikely event he is elected. Because there is no way he will be able to live up to their lofty expectations...nobody could.

    My point is that having gone through my more intellectual approach, Senator Clinton was my first choice, McCain a distant second, and Barack a very distant third. For me, it's all very logical.

    SO--it's very presumptuous of you to think that any one will be "playing" us, or needs to. Many of us will support John McCain on our own--albeit as the lesser of two evils--but with votes, money, and maybe a little shoe leather if we get really motivated.

  • comment on a post BREAKING AP: Obama Clinches Nomination over 6 years ago

    Remember--with Barack Obama, you're not just waiting for the OTHER shoe to drop. You're following a centipede.

  • The fact that we came away with a compromise, or "half-loaf", is not the fault of the first people who every tried to tackle the issue--the Clintons. And limousine liberals like John Kerry and Ted Kennedy offered little help...not enough political capital in an unpopular issue like gays in the military, I guess.

    And I hate to confuse you with the facts, but anti-gay hate crimes in the military have declined by over 700% since the policy was implemented, and there have only been five court-martials based on sexual orientation.

    Ironically, Obam-orons are mentioning Sam Nunn (and Jim Webb) as potential VP's. They probably aren't even aware of this history...too busy babbling about "change" and "hope".

  • lessons from the Obama crowd. The stuff they dished out at the Clintons back in the 90's is nothing compared to what the Obam-orons have thrown at them this year.

    Say what you want about the GOP: at least they treat their ex-Presidents and (First Ladies) with respect. In the Democratic Party, we just try to destroy them.

    Back in the Spring, when it was first revealed that the State Department had rifled Obama's passport file, an entire thread on Daily Kos was started accusing Senator Clinton of the wrongdoing, and suggesting that she should resign from the Senate (yes folks, I am serious). The only thing more bizarre I ever heard was an accusation made years ago, that the Clintons had a few people murdered down in Arkansas.

    That one was peddled by Jerry Falwell.

  • comment on a post Come Out, Stand By Hillary Clinton (updated) over 6 years ago

    I'm a GWM, and never felt much support from any of the major institutions in society--church, family, government--until the Clintons came along. When the "pros" questioned why the President tackled "gays in the military" during his very first week in office, his response was Truman-esque in its honesty and strength:

    "Because I made a promise".

    Obviously, it's been hard to see the President and Senator Clinton trashed over the last year by limousine liberals--people who know very little about crafting public policy, and have had little if any success in winning national elections. For many of us, the "Father" Phleger video last week was just about the last straw. It will take a long time for many of us to find another political family; I don't think I have much in common with this crowd.

  • and see what has happened to the price of corn in the last 5 months, not to mention the last year.

    btw--as far as the environmental considerations go, you should be aware that for every gallon of ethanol produced, it takes 1700 gallons of water. This is a boondoggle engineered to enrich the Ag giants, and no reputable economist would contest that. Even the talking heads on CNBC and Bloomberg admit it.

    You wouldn't be from Nebraska (Iowa?) by any chance, would you?

  • This allows Senator Clinton to stay in the race, in a way many Democratic candidates have done in recent years. And as the Father Pfleger incident demostrates, anything can happen between now and August.

    Once again, with Barack Obama, you're not just waiting for the other shoe to drop...you're following a centipede.

  • Actually, I can't argue with anything you've said...thanks for the insight.

    Not an excuse, but I saw "Father" Pfleger's rant on Friday afternoon, and thought I was going to have a stroke. And I'm a young guy!

    Jon.

  • Maher is a fairly vocal Obama supporter, but at least he's rational and open minded. He offered this opinion back in early May:

    "If you hate, or even just dislike Hillary Clinton, it is SO about YOU! And it probably relates to some kind of neurological disorder."

  • I've found that Obama partisans just hate to get into specifics. In a conversation I had last week with two very devoted Obam-orons, I tried to get them to explain to me where he stood on NAFTA...you see, he was against it, before he went grovelling to the Canadians to assure them that he was for it. It was probably unfair to put these two people in that position, given that the Senator probably doesn't know himself where he stands. They just started babbling about how he was "brilliant", and that he knows how to bring people together. Obviously, it was a real deep conversation....

    So save all your b.s.; bottom line, "Barry" voted for an Ag bill which was a huge giveaway to Monsanto and ADM (Archer Daniels Midland). Couldn't risk losing Iowa, I guess. At least McCain had the balls to oppose it, regardless of the political ramifications.

  • on a comment on I support Hillary's cause over 6 years ago

    Save your smugness, Skex....you will be very humble come November. In the worst year imaginable for Republicans, "Barry" is running behind McCain in most trial heats.

    We all know that momentum plays a huge role in the nominating contests; early on,the Democratic party embarked on a 48-state nominating process that eliminated MI and FL...talk about surreal! Had that not happened, Hillary Clinton would be the nominee right now.

    I know, I'm playing the "what-if" game. But get used to it: after the elections, the Obam-orons will be wondering what would have happened if Barak and Michelle had never joined Trinity United (great church for a "uniter", don't ya think?) Good luck...the GOP slime machine is about to beat your candidate like a rented mule. And he will then fold like the $2 suitcase that he is.

  • suggested you were hoping for a "different attitude", and I was simply explaining where mine came from. Everyone will react differently to the designation of Obama as the Democratic nominee.

    While most people assume that all Clinton supporters will vote for Obama, there are people among us of good judgment and character who may vote for McCain. Frankly, I haven't made up my mind yet. McCain's opposition to this country's insane (and corrupt) ethanol policy--a giveaway to Agriculture giants which is causing worldwide famine and food riots--is just one example of an issue liberals can embrace. Frankly, both Hillary and Obama let us down on that one.

    btw, I'll bet you anything that if you asked Barack why he supports the ethanol policy, he would get this befuddled look on his face...and just start mumbling. The first sentence would begin with the words, "on the one hand"....and the second sentence would start, "on the other hand"

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