• Hey JJ.....check out Charles Lemos' diary posted earlier today, "Obama's Failure of Leadership". It's a very good read. Later, bud.

     

  • on a comment on He Kept Us Out of a Depression over 4 years ago

    It's pretty silly to say that President Reagan's economic policies brought us to the brink of a depression, when the opposite is true. Did you even know that 17 million jobs were created between 1981 and 1989? I didn't think so.

    Obviously, liberals never want to talk about the major, "bread and butter" economic metrics of the Reagan years--unemployment (7.6% in 1981, 5.5% in 1989), or inflation (13.5% in 1981, 4.1% in 1989). Or maybe interest rates? 18.9% in 1981, 8.2% in 1989. During his two terms, the economy added 17 million new jobs......which I'm sure liberals will criticize as "low quality jobs". You guys are nothing if not predictable.

    Things were so horrible, it really does make you wonder how the President carried 49 states in 1984!

    You all can attack President Reagan all you want, and blame everything bad that happens on George W. Bush. But it's time for Obama---and all who supported him---to own his failures. Your crying about "hypocrisy on the right" reminds me of a column I read the other day by Paul Krugman, where he whined that "our political culture....and the filibuster" had made the country "ungovernable".  Similarly, when Carter failed years ago, we heard that the job was "just too big for one man".

    Well guess what? Filibusters and special interests have been around a long time---deal with it. Working with Congressional leaders of both parties in 1986 (Tip O'Neill, Bill Bradley, Bob Packwood, Dan Rostenkowski, Dick Gephardt), President Reagan achieved Tax Reform that most observers considered impossible, due to the entrenched special interests in Washington. It lowered tax rates and ignited an economic boom that lasted for 20 years. Working with Newt Gingrich, President Clinton achieved Welfare Reform. These two great Presidents had extensive executive experience, and something else that is critical: leadership. Sadly, Barack Obama---who travels the world bowing to foreign dignitaries and apologizing for America---couldn't lead a fart out of an asshole.

    As President Reagan told Jimmy Carter on the campaign trail, there's no "crisis of confidence" or malaise with the people of this great country. There's a crisis of leadership---an incredible shrinking President named Barack Obama.

     

  • on a comment on He Kept Us Out of a Depression over 4 years ago

    If you consider this a sign that Obama-nomics is working, I'd suggest you have very low standards for measuring success.

    You're very dense, so I reiterate: Obama promised when selling the stimulus that unemployment wouldn't go past 8%. And here we are today at 9.7%.

    That's called over-promising and under-delivering....the opposite of what you want in any business endeavor. But then, this President has never worked in business, so he wouldn't understand that.

    And btw, Consumer Confidence numbers out this morning plunged to 46.2; measurements under 50 generally occur when the country is in recession.

     

  • on a comment on He Kept Us Out of a Depression over 4 years ago

    Obama promised Congress that if the stimulus passed, unemployment wouldn't go past 8%. And that it would create 3.5 million new jobs.

    Well, guess what, Einstein? Unemployment soared to 10.2%, and now sits at 9.7%. And the economy lost 4.1 million jobs in 2009, Obama's first year in office. Guess he's got to create 7.6 million jobs to get to his goal. Lotsa luck.

    But fear not: Obama has promised that he's now going to "pivot to jobs", following up on his stellar success on health care.....gosh, we'll all sleep easier now. But it does make you wonder: if it truly is the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression, why did he wait for a full year to make 'the great pivot", and to make jobs a priority?

     

  • It's funny that you open with accusations of "dishonesty", and before you're done, you've dragged out the tired old lie that President Reagan "tripled the deficit". Just go to the OMB website ("Budget of the United States Government") and you can get the real deficit numbers: 1981---$78 billion, (2.6% of GDP); 1989---$152 billion (2.9% of GDP). And it may be beyond your level of understanding, but most economists would adjust the 1981 number for inflation, to get an apples-to-apples comparison; that makes it $101 billion, vs. $152 billion. So pick the methodology you prefer; either way, Reagan didn't triple the deficit..... and the more important point here is that he grew the economy by a third.

    Obviously, liberals never want to talk about the major, "bread and butter" economic metrics of the Reagan years--unemployment (7.6% in 1981, 5.5% in 1989), or inflation (13.5% in 1981, 4.1% in 1989). Or maybe interest rates? 18.9% in 1981, 8.2% in 1989. During his two terms, the economy added 17 million new jobs......which I'm sure liberals will criticize as "low quality jobs". You guys are nothing if not predictable.

    Things were so horrible, it really does make you wonder how the President carried 49 states in 1984!

    You all can attack President Reagan all you want, and blame everything bad that happens on George W. Bush. But it's time for Obama---and all who supported him---to own his failures. Your crying about "hypocrisy on the right" reminds me of a column I read the other day by Paul Krugman, where he whined that "our political culture....and the filibuster" had made the country "ungovernable".  Similarly, when Carter failed years ago, we heard that the job was "just too big for one man".

    Well guess what? Filibusters and special interests have been around a long time---deal with it. Working with Congressional leaders of both parties in 1986 (Tip O'Neill, Bill Bradley, Bob Packwood, Dan Rostenkowski, Dick Gephardt), President Reagan achieved Tax Reform that most observers considered impossible, due to the entrenched special interests in Washington. It lowered tax rates and ignited an economic boom that lasted for 20 years. Working with Newt Gingrich, President Clinton achieved Welfare Reform. These two great Presidents had extensive executive experience, and something else that is critical: leadership. Sadly, Barack Obama---who travels the world bowing to foreign dignitaries and apologizing for America---couldn't lead a fart out of an asshole.

    As President Reagan told Jimmy Carter on the campaign trail, there's no "crisis of confidence" or malaise with the people of this great country. There's a crisis of leadership---an incredible shrinking President named Barack Obama.

     

  • glad to see you're sticking up for ND, since  he's having a hard time defending himself. Guess it takes two liberals to take on a conservative......

     

  • Actually, I think that "the Dirksen Compromise" warrants its own diary. Something this topical shouldn't be confined to our back-and-forth; let all the readers of MyDD in on your findings. Should you write it, I promise to recommend it.

    Think about it: such a diary would deflect attention from Obama's health care debacle, Cap-and-Trade's failure, Climate-gate, unemployment, not to mention the upcoming 2010 midterms......it would be a service to liberals everywhere.

    Just be sure to check your dates and facts when you're done, ND.....

     

  • Dude, it was only last week! Even the site moderator had to come in and correct you.

    As to the great Dirksen treatise, I'm still trying to figure out what your point is. Will get back to you when I figure it out.

     

  • Actually, it doesn't really concern you. The comment was a reply to ND22, about a comment he made last week.....

    You must have a lot of time on your hands!

    btw...spelling: arguement, sb argument. Might have asked you this before: did you make it through high school?

  • One of my favorites, from the ND22 rant-against-Reagan hit parade:

    "His "Are you better off now than you were four years ago" rang as almost "This could've be worse"

    For many people who voted for him, the answer to that question was "no, we aren't better off in 1984 then we were in 1980" but they voted for him anyway, because they were certainly better off in 1984 than they were in 1982."

    Might have made sense if you had the election cycle right, not to mention the dates. Just out of curiosity, what did you have in mind?

    Talk about looking stupid........

  • Ah yes....Greece's problems are all because of....drumroll please.....GOLDMAN SACHS! The bane of liberals' existence. And the fact that Portugal had a bond auction fail earlier this months was because of....well, of course, Goldman Sachs.

    Before it's all over, I'm sure you folks will be blaming the Climate-Gate scandal---and subsequent collapse of Cap and Trade---on the folks at Goldman.

    Seriously, you shouldn't believe everything you read on liberal blogs.

     

  • Wow, that's as ignorant as your screw-up the other day on the Reagan-Carter debates in 1980.

    My comment didn't even address the issue of whose Civil Rights bill got passed; as usual, you're in the weeds. Bottom line, President Johnson got much needed support from Dirksen to make it a reality. Period.

     

  • I guess in your world, tarheel, the Soviet Union is alive and well....even thriving. And you're probably unaware that China has begun to embrace capitalism, which accounts for their booming economy....many economists feel that China is more friendly to capital today than is the United States. It's quite a contrast with what's happening in Europe, where the PIGS countries (Portugal, Italy, Greece, and Spain) are facing fiscal crisis because of unbridled entitlement spending. The latest protest in Greece was staged by workers who were angry that their retirement age may be raised from 61 to 63; the horror of it all.

    As to your crack about segregation, you're probably unaware (a perpetual state for you) that LBJ had to turn to Republican leader Everett Dirksen to get Civil Rights legislation passed, when he was rebuffed by his Democratic colleagues. Your world view---liberals are the good guys in white hats, conservatives evil people in black hats---is incredibly simplistic. It reveals someone who lacks education, and worse yet, is unwilling to learn.

  • Is this the Quinnipiac poll you were referring to?  It's dated 1/14/2010.

    http://www.politico.com/livepulse/0110/Quinnipiac_poll_Reforms_approval_continues_to_sink.html

     

  • If you read the details of each poll, you'll see that a couple actually specify the House plan when polling respondents. Last time I checked, the House plan included a public option.

    Beyond that, do you really think that there would be this level of opposition to the bills pending in Congress.....and at the same time, strong popular support for a public option?

     

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