Come on down to Crazy Bill's Uranium Emporium!

My kingdom for a good Borat joke!

Tomorrow's front page of the New York Times has a rather nasty 'late January Surprise' for the spouse of one of our Democratic candidates.

I'll give you some hints below the fold.

It involves Uranium.

It involves a mining magnate wining a contract that in the words of the NYT :

The monster deal stunned the mining industry, turning an unknown shell company into one of the world's largest uranium producers in a transaction ultimately worth tens of millions of dollars to Mr. Giustra, analysts said.

It involves Kazakhstan - and the Kazakh President.

It involves a former US President - after he'd been out of office for 6 years - phoning to congratulate that Kazakh President on a "landslide victory" that saw him win 91% of the vote.

It involves $131 million in donations to a certain foundation.

Give up?

I've give you another hint... the spouse is not Michelle Obama.

If you can't wait for the morning NYT to land on your doorstep -- you can read all about it --> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/pol itics/31donor.html?_r=3&hp=&oref =slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=sl ogin&oref=slogin

Tags: Bill Clinton, Clinton Foundation, Kazakhstan, NYT, scandal (all tags)

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66 Comments

I guess

I should admit that Clinton supporters are absolutely right.

It IS important that our candidates -- and their spouses -- be properly vetted.

We certainly wouldn't want the GOP getting ahold of a nasty story involving foreign dictators, uranium mining, and tens of millions of dollars, right?

by zonk 2008-01-30 08:13PM | 0 recs
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Yes and we would only be doing our duty as dedicated Democrats by taking this story and twisting it into as many disturbing fantasies as we can think of.  Think of how horrible it would be in the GE if we did not have a proper vetting now.  

I haven't done this before but I hear Tayler Marsh has some tips on how to do this.

by Satya 2008-01-31 05:43AM | 0 recs
Come on down to Crazy Bill's Uranium Emporium!

I couldn't find any beef in that article. Just another Van Natta hit job on Bill Clinton, who is a private citizen and can do whatever the heck he wants to.

Instead of his crazy tin-foil hat conspiracy theories, maybe Van Natta should do a story on the work of he Clinton Foundation.

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:15PM | 0 recs
OK

just read the Jo Becker part... or the parts contributed by David L. Stern or Margot William.

It's four pages online... gonna be above the fold... seems to me that it's not quite going to be just dismissed as a "crazy tin-foil conspiracy theory".

by zonk 2008-01-30 08:19PM | 0 recs
Re: OK

I read the article twice. It has the "breathless" tone of some kind of expose, but there's no "there" there.

That's what Bill Clinton does. He networks with government leaders and business leaders to raise money for his Foundation that does stuff like fight HIV/AIDS in Africa. So what? Where's the beef?

Or are we supposed to be all upset because he travelled to Kazhikstan? Again, so what?

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:26PM | 0 recs
Re: OK

As near as I can tell, the main complaint in Van Natta's hit job is that Bill Clinton spends time travelling with a very well respected (and very wealthy) business leader who has donated $130 million towards fighting AIDS in Africa and Tsunami relief. Well, duh!

Guess what? Bill Clinton spends time with Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and Al Gore too.

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:34PM | 0 recs
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BTW, the NYTIMES put all of Judith Miller's articles selling the WMD in Iraq story "above the fold" too. That doesn't mean they weren't lies.

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:28PM | 0 recs
Re: OK

Read the whole thing, it will be read as "Businessman used Clinton acquaintance to grease wheels on a deal, reporter with an ax to grind tries to make it look bad."

What is there to dismiss? OMG! Clinton travels and talks to people with weird names! They take pictures! And he is friends with very rich people!

by souvarine 2008-01-30 08:38PM | 0 recs
Re: OK

oh come on... your panting excitment to "get" clinton is lame.  this has got to be the most boring read i've seen... and the tone of this diary is laughable.  

keep your day job.

by votethegopout 2008-01-30 08:46PM | 0 recs
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by hwc 2008-01-30 08:16PM | 0 recs
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I actually read enough of it to figure out what it's all about.  Pretty sure most eyes will glaze over long before that point.

I see absolutely nothing here of interest.

by Steve M 2008-01-30 08:34PM | 0 recs
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I liked the part about how an "unnamed Bush State Department official" said Bill notified the Bush State Department "at the last minute" about his travel plans. Like Bill Clinton owes fricken Condolizza Rice the time of day. What, is he under house arrest?

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:45PM | 0 recs
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After reading the comments, I'm convinced not a single one of these people understands what a charitable foundation is.

by Steve M 2008-01-31 04:02AM | 0 recs
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If only everyone who engaged in allegedly shady deals took payment in the form of donations to charity that fund the purchase of discounted AIDS medicine for poor people.

The world would be a better place, I tell you.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-30 08:47PM | 0 recs
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What an absolute YAWN of a non-story.  

Obama-nuts must be feeling desperate.

by votethegopout 2008-01-30 08:39PM | 0 recs
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Clearly Van Natta must be getting paid by the word now.

I guess his last book didn't do so well!

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:40PM | 0 recs
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Exactly!

by votethegopout 2008-01-30 08:44PM | 0 recs
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That was an incredibly boring read.

by Tove 2008-01-30 08:43PM | 0 recs
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Fearing the worst, I read the article in its entirety (before seeing this diary). I'm relieved that there isn't much, if anything, there.

As far as I can tell, here's what the story boils down to:

Canadian mining executive Frank Giustra and Bill Clinton meet in June 2005 at a fundraiser for tsunami victims. Due to common interests, including philanthropy, they quickly become friends and travel the world together. Giustra is already worth hundreds of millions of dollars at the time.

A few months later, they go to Kazakhstan, where the Clinton Foundation has negotiated a deal allowing the Kazakh government to buy discounted AIDS drugs. Giustra, believing correctly that the price of uranium is about to soar, has been working on a deal to mine uranium there, and completes the deal a couple of days later.

There seems to be no evidence that Clinton helped facilitate the uranium deal in any way. The head of the Kazakh government agency, whose quotes appear to be the basis for the perception of fishiness, even says that the deal was nearly complete before Clinton's arrival and was done according to merit.

Over the next year, Giustra donates $31 million to the Clinton Foundation, and has pledged to give another $100 million or so.

The only thing that's amiss is that Bill Clinton apparently offers praise to the Kazakh leader, who is apparently autocratic in nature. The Kazakh leader appears not to have had any involvement in this either.

So let's see--what do we learn from this?

Bill Clinton is involved in shady deals that raise money for tsunami victims and help people get discounted AIDS medicines.

His friend Giustra likes to make money, and then give it to charity.

Can't trust these two, I say.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-30 08:44PM | 0 recs
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Even if Bill Clinton greased the skids for his buddy, so what? But, the article doesn't even make that case. It's like a Wendy's hamburger, hold the beef patties. Just a bun, a piece of lettuce and some mayo.

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:48PM | 0 recs
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The only thing that's amiss is that Bill Clinton apparently offers praise to the Kazakh leader, who is apparently autocratic in nature.

Yes. Apparently we are to believe from the NY Times that it is wrong for an ex-President to meet with a less than angelic leader, but OK for a sitting President to schedule an immediate President Summit without preconditions with despots.

I'm so confused. I thought the idea was that we are supposed to talk to world leaders (good and bad), strengthen relationships, and get leaders (good and bad) to do stuff like fight AIDS. Maybe those are Republican debate ideas? Somebody help me out...

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:53PM | 0 recs
I guess

We'll all just have to see what the alphabets have to say tomorrow, huh?

We're probably just rubes here in flyover country... things like "Uranium mining", "$131 million", "monster deals stunning the mining industry", and forgetfullness like this:

Both Mr. Clinton and Mr. Giustra at first denied that any such meeting occurred. Mr. Giustra also denied ever arranging for Kazakh officials to meet with Mr. Clinton. Wednesday, after The Times told them that others said a meeting, in Mr. Clinton's home, had in fact taken place, both men acknowledged it.

"You are correct that I asked the president to meet with the head of Kazatomprom," Mr. Giustra said. "Mr. Dzhakishev asked me in February 2007 to set up a meeting with former President Clinton to discuss the future of the nuclear energy industry." Mr. Giustra said the meeting "escaped my memory until you raised it."

Considering -- by my math -- Mr. Guistra gave the foundation what... 10% of it's OI?  

I'm sure you're right, though... no way anyone is interested in this.

You guys are the experts on this whole scandal thing - I'm just posting this so I can get tips on how to handle them for my own candidate.

So let's see... 'Yawn', 'nothing to see here', and the 'the reporter is fraud' -- right?

Is that the general way one handles it out of the box?

by zonk 2008-01-30 08:52PM | 0 recs
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Right. And what nefarious activities happened at that meeting?

Mr. Dzhakishev said he was worried the proposed Westinghouse investment could face similar objections. Mr. Clinton told him that he would not lobby for him, but Mr. Dzhakishev came away pleased by the chance to promote his nation's proposal to a former president.

The guy wanted some help buying a share of Westinghouse. (It doesn't seem that there's anything wrong with that.) Clinton says no. The guy says, okay, sure.

Stuff of pure evil, I say.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-30 08:56PM | 0 recs
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Zonk:

Here's the part you are missing. Bill Clinton is a private citizen. He's not an elected official. He can meet with whomever the eff' he wants to. It's part of our Constitution.

by hwc 2008-01-30 08:57PM | 0 recs
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OK...

I'm sure that's gonna fly.  After all, there must be like what.... 3 former Presidents running around America?  They're just like us!

by zonk 2008-01-30 09:09PM | 0 recs
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Jimmy Carter flies around, representing the Carter Center philanthropic organization, and talks to autocrats all the time. So what?

George Bush I flies around, often with Bill Clinton, and has greased the skids for quite a bit of philanthropic aid (Tsunami relief, etc.) from his buddies, especially in Saudi Arabia. So what?

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:16PM | 0 recs
I think

you're pretty well aware that selling me on that idea is probably the least of Camp Clinton's problems.

by zonk 2008-01-30 09:20PM | 0 recs
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If you have examples where Bush Father or Carter have used their status to support a repressive regime to facilitate a 3 billion dollar deal resulting in 131 million dollars to their foundation, please bring it to the table.

by Piuma 2008-01-30 09:20PM | 0 recs
don't be ridiculous

since that is NOT what Bill Clinton did why should anyone prove "others have it too"?

by MollieBradford 2008-01-30 11:35PM | 0 recs
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I predict the MSM will dub this Boratgate.

by animated 2008-01-30 08:58PM | 0 recs
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This sounds like these reporters spent a lot of time working on this story, didn't find anything out, and wrote what they had anyway. You can tell by the prominence given at the end to one incident--the worst that comes out of it is that two people forgot about a meeting at which nothing of consequence happened.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-30 08:58PM | 0 recs
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And a meeting which, frankly, is none of the NY Times' business in the first place.

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:05PM | 0 recs
that's a hot one...

bashing the NY Times for investigative journalism of a former President running for an effective third term.  Very Hillaryis44 Social Club of you.  Sorry, this is an open forum.

by mboehm 2008-01-31 01:13AM | 0 recs
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Yeah.  If you're doing a scientific study, then it's important to write up and report negative results to save the next research team the trouble of replicating your unsuccessful experiment.  But if you're doing investigative journalism, negative results are not newsworthy, and cloaking them in innuendo to make them look that way is unethical.

by Alex 2008-01-31 11:08AM | 0 recs
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The skinny on the deal.  Bill Clinton, ex-President of the United States, travels to Kazakhstan with a business man looking to negotiate rights to Kazkh Uranium mines. The deal is completed and here's what each gets.

Kazakh Government gets support of the ex-President in trying to bring legitimacy to their repressive Government in their successful bid to the head the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe. This happens despite objections of US administration and Congress.

The businessman gets the deal and sells the company for 3.1 billion dollars.

Clinton Foundation gets gifts of 131 million dollars.

It is a pure example of Bill Clinton trading his status of ex-President for payments funneled into his Foundation.  It is the revolving door from Government to Lobbyist on Steroids.  And the problem is there are a number of these stories lying in the weeds of his Foundation and the Presidential Library.

by Piuma 2008-01-30 09:05PM | 0 recs
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Oversimplifying a little, I think.

First, the company was sold for $3.1 billion. The article doesn't say how much of that went to Giustra. Given that they had to raise money via an IPO, he probably only got a fraction of that. It's actually odd they would leave that out.

Second, there's no evidence in the article that Clinton had any involvement in making the deal. In fact, the head of the Kazakh uranium agency says the opposite.

Third, if Bill himself received the money, I can understand there might be something of a stink. But the money is being given to his foundation.

Fourth, it's not clear whether Clinton's visit had anything to do with Kazakhstan getting to head OSCE in 2010, after Greece and before Lithuania. Is OSCE actually important in any way? Does it actually do anything?

by OrangeFur 2008-01-30 09:18PM | 0 recs
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What possible motive would Bill Clinton have to recommend it to OSCE? This is a country that basically rigs elections, tortures people, and has opposition leaders assassinated.

by animated 2008-01-30 09:20PM | 0 recs
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Maybe he wanted to keep relations warm enough so he could carry out more philanthropic work there. Maybe he was off his gourd. Maybe he was trying to use it as a prod to get Kazakhstan to reform. Who knows?

Is there any evidence AT ALL that Clinton did anything to facilitate the deal? Ken Starr had more evidence than this.

Honestly, I'm tired of this. If it wasn't primary season we wouldn't be having this argument at all. But now people are trying to rip each other's candidates to shreds with a ferocity that Karl Rove would admire. Democrats are going after Bill Clinton now for his charitable work.

The end of this nominating contest can't come fast enough.

by OrangeFur 2008-01-30 09:37PM | 0 recs
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The money they had to raise with the IPO was 450 million.  They sold the company for 3.1 Billion.

The deal was completed 48 hours after the visit and the head of the Government had to sign off on the deal. Longtime market watchers were confounded. Kazatomprom's choice of UrAsia was a "mystery," said Gene Clark, the chief executive of Trade Tech, a uranium industry newsletter.

"UrAsia was able to jump-start the whole process somehow," Mr. Clark said. The company became a "major uranium producer when it didn't even exist before."

Clinton clearly supported Kazakh's bid, -"I think it's time for that to happen, it's an important step, and I'm glad you're willing to undertake it," Mr. Clinton said. - in opposition to US policy, and this isn't the first time he's done that while lobbying on behalf of corporations.

by Piuma 2008-01-30 09:33PM | 0 recs
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Obviously, a $450 million IPO suggests that this guy was pretty well respected as a businessman with a proven track record. He had already owned a major film producer and other major mining companies. Again, where's the beef?

by hwc 2008-01-30 10:03PM | 0 recs
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Here's the wiki article about the OSCE. It's a relatively inconsequential organization that was founded during the Cold War to promote cooperation between Eastern European and Western European countries. The Chairmanship rotates on an annual basis among the various member countries. It's not like selecting the next UN Secretary General.

The major complaint about the organization seems to be from Putin who accuses it of being a tool of the West.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizatio n_for_Security_and_Co-operation_in_Europ e

This whole thing is the same kind of vapid hit piece that Van Natta has built his career out of.

The timing of the article is pretty transparent, but I don't think anyone is shocked that the media is doing its level best to take down Hillary Clinton. That's kind of a "well, duh", isn't it?

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:38PM | 0 recs
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The OSCE is the most minor part of the article.  What bothers me is the ex-President as Lobbyist which is pretty clear here.  If Bill was interested in simply promoting the work of his foundation, he doesn't need Frank Giustra to do that.  I am not in favor of Congressmen and Senators becoming Lobbyists and I am certainly not in favor of ex-Presidents.

by Piuma 2008-01-30 09:43PM | 0 recs
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Actually, the article says that Clinton refused to lobby, but don't let facts get in the way.

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:57PM | 0 recs
I can tell

this story is a big bag of nothing because it's managed to draw 27 comments within 20 minutes of it's posting... at 1 AM CST.

Don't I feel sheepish....

by zonk 2008-01-30 09:11PM | 0 recs
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acting like a juvenile is not going to make your story more credible.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-30 11:39PM | 0 recs
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I love the way Clinton supporters stretch as far as they can to find some impropriety between Obama and Rezko...and yet when there's a 131 million donation and favors for a corrupt government involving the candidate they favor they bury their heads in the sand.

From the Wikipedia article on Kazakhstan's human rights/ voting rights record:

Kazakhstan's political structure concentrates power in the presidency. Current President Nursultan Nazarbayev was elected to a 7-year term in a 2006 election that, many observers note, fell far short of international standards. The legislature and judiciary, as well as regional and local governments are not independent from executive control, and changes or amendments to the Constitution require presidential consent. No opposition parties are represented in the Lower House of Parliament. Corruption remains systemic.

While civilian authorities maintained effective control of the security forces, members of the security forces are reported to have committed human rights abuses. On some occasions, members of the security forces, including police, tortured, beat, and otherwise mistreated detainees; some officials were punished for these abuses. Prison conditions remained harsh; however, the Government took an active role in efforts to improve prison conditions and the treatment of prisoners. The Government continued to use arbitrary arrest and detention and to selectively prosecute political opponents; prolonged detention was a problem. Amendments to several laws governing the authority of procurators further eroded judicial independence. The Government infringed on citizens' privacy rights.

In November 2005, a former minister in the Nazarbayev government, Zamanbek K. Nurkadilov, who had stated he planned to speak publicly about high-level corruption, was found shot dead according to accounts by police and an opposition leader, the New York Times reported. His death came three weeks prior to upcoming presidential elections. Nurkadilov had been fired from his position as minister of emergency situations in 2004, after saying that President Nazarbayev ought to answer allegations that Kazakh officials had accepted millions of US dollars in bribes from an intermediary for U.S. oil firms in the 1990's.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_right s_in_Kazakhstan

This is the country Bill Clinton recommends to head an international election monitoring agency?! Either Bill Clinton is completely oblivious to reality, or there was a quid pro quo.

by animated 2008-01-30 09:14PM | 0 recs
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You don't get it, do you. Rezko could buy me a house and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm a private citizen. Barack Obama is an elected official. There are laws against political fixers putting money or other gifts of tangible value in the pockets of elected officials.

For all we know, Bill Clinton carried official talking points from the State Department to Kazikstan. Do you really think the Bush political arm would be motivated to "leak" that to the NY Times?

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:21PM | 0 recs
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No matter how you spin it, there's no explanation for why Bill Clinton would help a corrupt regime like this unless there was something in it for him. He's a smart guy, he knows what the conditions are like there.

by animated 2008-01-30 09:28PM | 0 recs
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News flash. All the countries of the former Soviet Union are corrupt. Most of the countries of the world are corrupt. Welcome to the real world.

Maybe the United States should only talk to Britain and France?

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:41PM | 0 recs
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If by "talking," you mean "helping gain the leadership of international voting organizations and greasing deals for donors in exchange for tons of cash" then, no. I think we should hold our presidents to higher standards than that. I'm sorry you don't.

by animated 2008-01-30 10:03PM | 0 recs
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How exactly did Bill Clinton "help" this corrupt regime? By talking to them about fighting AIDS and human rights and non-proliferation.

Did it ever occur to you that it might well be in the US' best interest to have a Western company in control of uranium mining in the country? I know it may shock you, but the CIA has people working at every company in the world that supplies materials and design for nuclear technologies. The CIA knew about AQ Khan's network for years before they blew it up because they had people working at all of Khan's suppliers.

Typically, all ex-Presidents contact the State Department for a briefing before travelling abroad to find out if there is something they need to know or discuss. Clearly, Clinton did this. State Department said so. It's not like hatchet man Van Natta is going to include anything like that in his article.

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:51PM | 0 recs
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Did it ever occur to YOU that it might not be in the best interest of our party to have a nominee who jets off to ex-Soviet states, trading favors for donations and greasing energy deals and then lying about it?

by animated 2008-01-30 10:00PM | 0 recs
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Actually, Bill Clinton's network of relationships around the world is one of the major reason's I'm voting for Hillary Clinton. I believe that he will be a major asset in rapidly turning around our foreign policy as a roving ambassdor. The guy is loved around the world.

by hwc 2008-01-30 10:06PM | 0 recs
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Heck, he's even been to Europe!

by hwc 2008-01-30 10:06PM | 0 recs
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Kazakhstan's political structure concentrates power in the presidency. Current President Nursultan Nazarbayev was elected to a 7-year term in a 2006 election that, many observers note, fell far short of international standards.

I wonder if the Democratic Party disenfranchising 2.5 million voters in Michigan and Florida would fall short of "international standards"?

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:23PM | 0 recs
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lol - as though a state moving its primary up, and having campaigning banned is the same as a government that kills people it doesn't agree with!

by animated 2008-01-30 09:26PM | 0 recs
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Not counting Sunni votes. Not counting Florida votes. What's the difference?

by hwc 2008-01-30 09:42PM | 0 recs
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Uh...I'll assume your being facetious and that you're not actually comparing Howard Dean to a corrupt ex-Soviet regime.

by animated 2008-01-30 09:58PM | 0 recs
Ho hum

Well I read it all, and I'm not even sure what its trying to tell us. Its just a muddle of circumstances with no clear point. About the worst you can say is that Bill got his buddy to give a ton of money....to charity. Looks for all the world like the NYT is trying to create a "story" where none exists.

I'll tell you this though: if Obama wants to bring this up in the debate tomorrow, he's got a can of Rezko whoop-ass waiting for him if he does (and that DOES look bad!)

by Scan 2008-01-30 09:45PM | 0 recs
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That Uranium company was sold for 3.1 billion..wow, not chump change that Bill's buddy was dealing with. 131 million is a drop in the bucket. Imagine how much money he will have to spread to Bill's foundations over the next 8 years.
If HRC is the nominee.. the GOP will have  this in the news everyday for 6 months.

''Clinton Foundation Reaps 131 Million in Nuclear Cash''

by hawkjt 2008-01-30 09:49PM | 0 recs
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The argument that Mr. Clinton's suspicious affair in Kazakhstan should be overlooked because of all the great work of Mr. Clinton's charitable deeds is bogus.

Our potential future First Gentleman is a former President named Bill Clinton that is engaging in the exchange of hundreds of millions of dollars on private jets, with James Bond villains like the authoritarian dictator of Kazakhstan, his uranium ministers, and a mining financier who is expressing a sudden interest in acquiring access to massive amounts of uranium. All this, and the Clinton Global Initiative gets just a little more than the cost of what Philadelphia Phillies 1B Ryan Howard ought to get in his next contract to play baseball.

You've got to admit that sounds pretty bad!

C'mon Clinton defenders! It sounds pretty damn bad!

http://wecouldbeafamous.blogspot.com

by wecouldbefamous 2008-01-30 09:51PM | 0 recs
A load of crap, example #23

The publicly stated reason for the visit was to announce a Clinton Foundation agreement that enabled the government to buy discounted AIDS drugs. But during a news conference, Mr. Clinton wandered into delicate territory by commending Mr. Nazarbayev for "opening up the social and political life of your country."
So here the article, without base, suggests that the AIDS medicine story may have just been a cover for what the REAL purpose might have been.

In a statement Kazakhstan would highlight in news releases, Mr. Clinton declared that he hoped it would achieve a top objective: leading the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, which would confer legitimacy on Mr. Nazarbayev's government.
So Bill is saying..."I hope you guys get a turn to lead the OSCE, that would be a positive thing" What does this organization do? According to Wikipedia: "Its stated aim is to secure stability in the region, based on democratic practices and improved governance."

"I think it's time for that to happen, it's an important step, and I'm glad you're willing to undertake it," Mr. Clinton said.

Yeah, thats pretty damning!

So who is this president anyway? Though it expresses some criticism as well, what stood out in the Wikipedia article on him was this in the first paragraph:

"Internationally, Nazarbaev is commonly credited for committing to free-market economic measures, wide engagement with the Western countries, promoting religious and national tolerance, optimism about nuclear non-proliferation and tough stance on terrorism and religious extremism."

Sounds horrible...I'm amazed Clinton even acknowledges this monster's existence.

Also, here's a pic of him with Bush at the White House in 2006. The embrace tells me they like each other very much and this guy is a friend to the United States.

NEXT!

by Scan 2008-01-30 10:38PM | 0 recs
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I read the article -- and the one in Newsweek (link: http://www.newsweek.com/id/105650/page/1 ) -- and, honestly, I'm too tired to really understand whether there's something there or not.

But I'm not too tired to see right away that this is big trouble in Hillary Clinton land. Why? Because it's all about Bill Clinton. He's gonna be back in the news for at least a few days as people continue to sniff for something (because, let's face it, there is an odor here -- just a question of what exactly that odor is) and look under other rocks and raise questions (yet again) about whether or not Bill Clinton's post-White House years have been properly "vetted" and raise questions about the real implications of his possible return to the White House.

The Obama campaign most be absolutely gleeful. And if they were wise (and they aren't always) they wouldn't say a word about it.

by Callimaco 2008-01-30 10:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Come on down to Crazy Bill's Uranium Emporium!

It looks like it has as much substance as the Rezko non-scandal. Of course that will not stop some partisans from breathlessly wondering when the other shoe will drop and engaging in a lot of innuendo. Hopefully Obama and his supporters and surrogates will show some good sense and stay out of it.

by hankg 2008-01-31 05:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Come on down to Crazy Bill's Uranium Emporium!

I agree, actually... even though I posted this - frankly, I look at it this way.

Every moment I can force Camp clinton to focus on this -- and let's be honest, this is a bit bigger than Rezko... I mean - we're talking foreign dictators, uranium mining deals, and 1000 times as much money -- is time that can't be spent on Rezko.

by zonk 2008-01-31 07:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Come on down to Crazy Bill's Uranium Emporium!

LOL at you people thinking that he was donating $130,000,000 out of the goodness of his own heart. Of course it has NOTHING to do with Clinton greasing the wheels. God only knows what kind of "finder's fee" Clinton received - unmarked Swiss accounts of course.

by highgrade 2008-01-31 06:28AM | 0 recs

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