Thank you, Veterans

I thought it would be a tragedy not to take a second out and just give thanks to those hundreds of thousands  of American Women and Men who have defended this country and even have given their lives so that we can enjoy all the liberties afforded to us living in the world's largest true democracy.

Sine die.

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From the other side: Why Blacks said yes to Prop 8

As someone who is getting pretty tired of my race and faith  being blamed for Prop 8 passing, I thought the gay activists on this board would like to hear from one of thier own. I ran across this article written by a black lesbian. She sums up my thoughts better than I could. es/news/the_state_of_black_america_news/ 2295

Dear California, Here's Where They Went Wrong With Proposition 8
Date: Monday, November 10, 2008, 1:17 pm
By: Jasmyne A. Cannick, Special to

I am a perfect example of why the fight against Proposition 8, which amends the state Constitution to ban same-sex marriage, failed to win black support.

I am black. I am a political activist who cares deeply about social justice issues. I am a lesbian. This year, I canvassed the streets of South Los Angeles and Compton, knocking on doors, talking politics to passers-by and working as I never had before to ensure a large voter turnout among African-Americans. But even I wasn't inspired to encourage black people to vote against the proposition.

Why? Because I don't see why the right to marry should be a priority for me or other black people. Gay marriage? Please. At a time when blacks are still more likely than whites to be pulled over for no reason, more likely to be unemployed than whites, more likely to live at or below the poverty line, I was too busy trying to get black people registered to vote, period; I wasn't about to focus my attention on what couldn't help but feel like a secondary issue.

The first problem with Proposition 8 was the issue of marriage itself. The white gay community never successfully communicated to blacks why it should matter to us above everything else - not just to me as a lesbian but to blacks generally. The way I see it, the white gay community is banging its head against the glass ceiling of a room called equality, believing that a breakthrough on marriage will bestow on it parity with heterosexuals. But the right to marry does nothing to address the problems faced by both black gays and black straights. Does someone who is homeless or suffering from HIV but has no healthcare, or newly out of prison and unemployed, really benefit from the right to marry someone of the same sex?

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All Politics are local: Why Blacks voted for Prop 8

I'm a Black, straight male and I would have voted for Prop 8, not because I want to make life miserable for Gays, but because it's inconsistent with my Christian beliefs.Period. In this debate I have been told that my view of Christianity is not in line with other sects of Christianity, so I should stop saying that. I disagree. Religion is the most personal of all experiences, and self-interpretation is paramount.I don't have to be literalistic to read the Bible and see the few stories where homosexuality is condemned. In the Bible it's a sin, just as premarital sex and adultery are sins. But homosexuality presents a unique challenge to society, because gays feel that they are not sinners. It's the ultimate test of a Christian because they must love someone who doesn't believe that they are a sinning. Obviously, most Christians are failing miserably in this aspect and it's getting worse. Homosexuality is being singled out and raised above all other sins, including the unforgivable sin of blasphemy. That's not Christianity. Now, I'm not so naive to believe that me supporting my beliefs don't infringe on how you want to live your life, when I vote. *That's messed up, and I think it put every person who voted against Prop 8 in a very tough spot.* But Gays can't be naive enough to believe that every person that voted for Prop 8, hates gays and want to keep them down. That's narrow-minded and does a disservice to most straight people who struggle to come to terms with the innate conflicts that homosexuality presents. As far as the Black community vs. homosexuality issue, the rabbit hole goes deeper. Homosexuality affects each racial community different, and I'll explain why. In the Black community there is a serious lack of Black role models. Many fathers leave early and many Black children grow up not knowing firsthand what a Black man looks like, acts like and how a Black man is supposed to treat Black women. Being that there is a serious disconnect in many relationships between Black Men and Women, the is often attributed to the Black male not having an example on who to date, love and marry Black women. Often, the pressure is too great and they leave. *(For the record, I am happily married and my parents have been together for 57 years)* In most Black communities openly gay Black men are largely viewed as being flamboyant/queens, and quite honestly these are the most prominent examples that many Black voters see. Their behavior is frowned upon because they are not seen as filling the void in the community as male role models. Ironically, it is usually these same openly gay black men, who rush to become teachers and volunteer in mentoring programs but are often rejected by the communities that they try to serve. Add the AIDS phenomenon, the emergence of the 'Down-Low' Black men in the closet and the indisputable fact that homosexuality is condemned in the Bible and you see where the Black community gets it's views from.

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McCain doesn't know which way he's going...literally hE

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Biden's Strategy: Go easy on McPalin 8/14097.html

Biden's strategy: Go easy on Palin
By: Roger Simon
September 30, 2008 10:20 AM EST

If Sarah Palin goofs, flounders, stumbles or blunders during her debate against Joe Biden on Thursday night, Biden is going to let it slide.

"If she makes a gaffe, he underplays it," one of the people prepping Biden for his vice presidential debate told me. "At most, he says, `I am not sure what Gov. Palin meant there.'"

There are three reasons for this. First, Biden does not want to look condescending. For the same reason, he plans on referring to Palin as "Gov. Palin" during the debate and never as "Sarah." (He will sometimes refer to John McCain as "John," however, because they have been senators together for many years.)

Second, Biden knows the press is going to pounce on any mistakes, and so he does not need to.

Third, and most important, Sarah Palin is not Biden's true target.

"Joe Biden's No. 1 job during the vice presidential debate is to keep the focus on the top of the ticket," the Biden debate prepper told me. "He is going to keep the focus on John McCain."

This is an arguable strategy. After all, McCain is the experienced one on the Republican ticket, the one whose credentials to be commander in chief from Day One are not in much question.

So why attack him instead of Palin, whose lack of readiness has been the subject of endless discussion as well as late-night comedy?

Because, at least in the past, Americans have not concentrated on the bottom of the ticket when it comes time to vote. They care about who the president is going to be, not who the vice president is going to be.

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I'm feeling soo much better about Thursday night.... NQ

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Systemic GOP Voter Fraud, right before your very eyes

I  am a Northern Virginia resident, greater Manassas area. A fellow Democrat (white male, 50's,) just told me of an interesting call that he received over the weekend.....

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Alegre's Corner is a fraud..... (and so are the PUMAs)

I surfed over to Alegre's Corner to this diary ....

I understand that these women are upset, but several were talking about voting for MCain because of Palin. I noticed that most of them were calling themselves feminists, so I decided to actually post and see if I could inject a little balance into the discussion.

I first tried to explain that Obama wasn't a party hack because Hillary had most of the superdelgates, 90% of the Black vote and endorsements of most of the Black politicians before Iowa .I then when on to note that it was a bloody primary and both side's hands were dirty.
I posted a 2 paragraph blurb where I briefly covered the following six points:

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NC State employee quits after refusing to lower flag for Helms iticians/helms/story/1135443.html

The tide is certainly turning. Does anyone know if the North Carolina press is picking up this story?
It speaks volumes that at the end of the day, a Caucasian decided to take a stand against what Jesse Helms stood for. This bodes well for the Democratic Party in Norht Carolina.

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Obama campaign skewers Clinton in retort email.

I love watching the two campaigns go at each other. I love even more watching the Obama campaign show restraint, while Hillco throws everything but the kitchen sink at him.

But every once in a while, Barack Obama shows that one of his strongest assets in knowing how to pick the right people.... ama_campaign_skewers_clinton.html

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