As you may guess from my handle, I do have a dog in this fight. But honestly, after 25 years I'm tired of talking about it. I will point out that there are progressive, liberal farm organizations that you could have cited (just a couple to start, the National Farmers Union, the Western Organization of Resource Councils and the National Family Farm Coalition) instead of an environmental site. One of the great triumphs of Reaganism was peeling farmers off of the traditional New Deal coalition (although not entirely ... for the Mansfield, Mcgovern and Humphrey's in the 60s we have Tester, Dorgan and Harkin today. Lots of farmers loved Wellstone too.) by exacerbating conflicts between agriculture and the environmental community. I could see you going to poverty groups because 75-80% of farm bill funding goes to Food Stamps and WIC. But you wouldn't first go to the NAACP for info on say, handicapped access issues, would you? I'm not that involved with farm issues anymore, but I hope there are a few farmer types around here who will weigh in on the issue. But then, it is seeding time now so I'm not optimistic.
just to have three serious candidates that I could support without holding my nose. Except for Dean, the last one I remember is Harkin in 92. I could campaign wholeheartedly for Edwards, Richardson or Clark (if he announces as rumored). Sure, none are perfect, but as Jesus is not running, they'll do. Just hope with the crowded field we don't get into an internecine bloodbath again that costs the party in November 08.
I never blamed Ralph for Dubya. In my opinion there is just one man who can be blamed for Gore's defeat (or at least making the election close enough to be stolen) and that is Joe Lieberman. I voted for Nader not because of anything positive about him but instead because I got sick and tired of Joe's incessant pounding day after day for month after month that because I would not give up what I believed in -- equal rights for all, a clean and healthful environment, healthcare is a right not a privilege -- I was not a good democrat and I should get my ass to the back of the bus with all those other dirty fucking hippies. Even if Gore had dug up the moldering bones of Spiro Agnew I don't think he could have chosen a less appealing figure to head the national ticket. He could have put Uncle Fester on the ticket and easily have picked up another 3 million votes. Nope, no problem with Ralph but I will never forgive Joe.
Well, not a fear so much as an acknowledgement of reality. What bloggers give up when joining an organization is a certain amount of independence. At Pandagon or SS or whereever, these bloggers are able to root for Edwards as vociferously as they want but are still able to say, for example, his comments on Iran were incredibly irresponsible. Instead of being responsible to their own beliefs, these bloggers will have the equivalent of editors looking over their shoulders all the time. That's the price for a regular paycheck and benefits.
I'm not saying this is bad. I want all liberals to have big money fun jobs. I'm just trying point out the difference between being "self employed" and joining "The Firm."
7.1 Storm off and form an even better progressive agency that doesn't need anything from those lame mean lamoes. Except for this ashtray. Just this ashtray. And this paddle game, the ashtray and the paddle game and that's all I need. And this remote control. The ashtray, the paddle game, and the remote control, and that's all I need. And these matches. The ashtray, and these matches, and the remote control and the paddle ball. And this lamp. The ashtray, this paddle game and the remote control and the lamp and that's all I need. And that's all I need too. I don't need one other thing, not one - I need this. The paddle game, and the chair, and the remote control, and the matches, for sure. And this. And that's all I need. The ashtray, the remote control, the paddle game, this magazine and the chair.
I too am late to this party. One point I would like to add is the role of Red Scare tactics in breaking apart the coalition of the left. The main split, between Unions and what could be called the Hard Left, critically weakened both and contributed to laws to cripple organizing such as the Taft-Hartley Act. Second was Nixon's Southern Strategy which completed the split of the Yellow Dog Democrats from the party over the issue of civil rights. The last major split was the sagebrush rebellion which developers used to split a large section of the rural agricultural community from the party by fearmongering against the evil environmentalists. I would put Republican efforts to woo Jews on the Isreal/Palestinian conflict and Dubya's efforts to sweettalk Hispanics in the same category.
I wrote to Conrad when the bill was in committee. Got the classic non-answer answer. To paraphrase, "some folks say this is bad but others don't. I will keep your thoughts in mind." At least he didn't add, "remember to vote for me this november" on the end.
I don't have a dog in this race and will leave the choice of who is the better candidate to the good Democrats of Ohio. But Jerome's reasoning worries me because it encapsulates much of the Democratic Loser Club thinking that has nearly wiped out the party since 1994.
Brown has the money ($3 million in the bank). Al Gore was just in Cleveland raising $500K for Brown asking him to run. Hackett next to zero money, and few connections in Ohio to raise money either. He will be totally dependent upon the netroots and the DSCC for money, which means that they will control the consultants that work his race.
Brown has the organization connections, having won statewide, and traveled in the state; he's been working it the whole year. Hackett didn't go around and see what Ohio Democrats said about him running, he went to DC to ask. Hackett will be owned by the DSCC consultants, which will make it tougher for him to win.
Nothing about which candidate beliefs best reflects his own. Nothing about which candidate can best articulate a progessive message in a way that will appeal to the voters of Ohio. Nothing about which candidate will do more to build the party in Ohio. Just who will be able to run more commercials in Oct-Nov '06 and has the beltway buddies to suck cash from.
I am not saying that financial viability and strategic considerations shouldn't be an important, or even top concerns when selecting a candidate. But when they are the primary rationale for a campaign, it is just a short slide to permanent minority status.