Tim McGraw: the next Democratic Golden Boy?

From Yahoo News

This was fun to read.  "NASHVILLE, Tenn. - Country singer Tim McGraw says he wants to run for office someday in his adopted home state of Tennessee -- perhaps for governor or U.S. senator -- and he's getting encouragement from a fellow Democrat, former President Clinton."

"I think he's got it," Clinton says of McGraw in an Esquire magazine story that hits newsstands Monday. "The Democrats need candidates whom people can relate to in a personal way, people who understand their lives and their concerns and share their values. And I think that's something Tim can do without even pretending."

He identified health care as his top issue, and said one of his main reasons for wanting to enter politics is Clinton, whom he calls "the best president we ever had."

Me and Tim have the same opinion of Bill.  Ashame about Bill's wife though.  

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Huh?
But McGraw also says he "loves" George W. and is "very" pro-Iraq war and is fervently anti-choice.  He is also on record referring to himself as a "Reagan Conservative".  So what's the deal?  Why would we want him to run as a Democrat?
by All Blue Map 2006-01-13 03:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Huh?
Ah nevermind.   I dont know anything about Tim McGraw.  If he supports the war in Iraq, he would never have my support.
by Winston Smith 2006-01-13 04:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Huh?
I'd like actual links or sources for that too.
by RBH 2006-01-13 05:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Huh?
I'm betting that you have Tim McGraw confused with Toby Keith who calls himself a conservative Dem and fits the above description.
by rapid response 2006-01-14 08:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Huh?
Toby Keith is a total dick
by teknofyl 2006-01-14 08:34AM | 0 recs
If he really is a democrat
then i am sure he could win TN.  He is a country star with TONS of cash and both he and his wife are super good looking.  I am sure that Operah would let them on to run.  

And who better to put the south back in play than a country star?

But then again, I thought he was one of those 9/11=Iraq idiots.  Didn't he have pro-Iraq war concert t-shirt, or I am confusing him with another country star?

by DaveB 2006-01-13 06:50PM | 0 recs
Re: If he really is a democrat
I think you are thinking of Toby Keith who is the biggest Bush-loving chronie in the world.
by jkfp2004 2006-01-13 06:55PM | 0 recs
Re: If he really is a democrat
Again, Toby Keith is a TOTAL dick
by teknofyl 2006-01-14 08:35AM | 0 recs
democrat??
when did tim mcgraw say he was a democrat ? i`m pretty sure it`s illegal to to be a country star and be a democrat and not slobber all over bush.
by temple1954 2006-01-14 06:02AM | 0 recs
Re: democrat??
Tell that to the late great Johnny Cash.. or his daughter Roseann Cash or Steve Earle or Willie Nelson
by molly bloom 2006-01-14 06:09AM | 0 recs
Outlaws, Every One!
You see, it is illegal!
by Paul Rosenberg 2006-01-14 08:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Outlaws, Every One!
So is smoking weed, but we all do that!
by teknofyl 2006-01-14 08:36AM | 0 recs
Re: democrat??
i assume you haven't heard of the music row democrats? we've got our country musicians.
by wu ming 2006-01-14 04:08PM | 0 recs
All Them White Guys Look The Same To Me!
Maybe, just maybe we ought to follow a little dictum I use in writing news stories for my paper. I always try to know at least 10 times as much as I put into a story.  

That way, I have a pretty good idea of how well my story represents the totality of the facts.  I know I can't discuss everything, but I can make an informed decision of what to focus on, and how the different aspects of a story relate.

Now, it's not my story, so I'm not holding myself to that 10-1 ratio.  But in the spirit of at least trying to get a more complete picture, a quick little bit of Googling turned up this report from a Tim McGraw concert:

During a short acoustic set, McGraw introduced a song from his album due Aug. 24, "My Old Friend." He dedicated the song to a childhood friend who is an army chaplain just returned from Iraq. While McGraw made a point of explaining that he wasn't making a statement about the U.S. involvement in the war, the photos of the Iraq war supplied by the chaplain and shown on screens scattered across the stage told a different, somber story.
I think we can all guess that "a different, somber story" is not exactly rabidly pro-Bush.
by Paul Rosenberg 2006-01-14 06:17AM | 0 recs
Re: All Them White Guys Look The Same To Me!
I saw that coming.
by Winston Smith 2006-01-14 02:55PM | 0 recs
humor
molly get a sense of humor!!!!!!!    i still don`t see any evidence that tim mcgraw is a democrat except that he likes bill clinton.anyone
have any concrete proof?
by temple1954 2006-01-14 08:08AM | 0 recs
Click The Link
On the original story before you go asking questions.  

The answer is, "yes," there's a whole lot more to it than just liking Bill Clinton. Raised by a single mom who worked 2-3 jobs at a time struggling to make ends meet, that's what he cites as having made a lasting impression in terms of what matters in politics.  He hasn't forgotten where he came from.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-01-14 08:29AM | 0 recs
Re: humor
Well.

He did cut a $7500 check to the DNC in 2004--as did his wife, Faith Hill.

http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/Tim_McGraw.php

I never really cared for his music, but knowing his politics gives me a lot of respect for the guy.  I think he'd do really well in TN.  Women love him.

by HellofaSandwich 2006-01-14 11:20AM | 0 recs
Re: humor
Speaking of this...

Where do Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie live?

Run Pitt against whomever, and you get damn near all the ladies' votes.  Angelina gets all the guy votes if she runs...

Jejeje.

by teknofyl 2006-01-14 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: humor
there will be hell to pay if we start recruiting actors to run as dems....we got enough flak for getting them to campaign for kerry....faux news and cnn will delight in running stories about hollywood vs. the heartland
by bluenc 2006-01-15 12:32AM | 0 recs
Re: humor
yes which is why the the republicans recruited the terminator, bono, trump, the guy from the love boat, among others. because star power doesn' work.
by bruh21 2006-01-15 08:04AM | 0 recs
Re: humor
it's not that it doesn't work....it's only that the media narrative is better for them than it is for us....
by bluenc 2006-01-15 08:42AM | 0 recs
Re: humor
the narrative is what we make of it
by bruh21 2006-01-15 12:42PM | 0 recs
Re: humor
Bono is NOT a Republican.
For that matter, he is Irish, so how can he have an American political affiliation.

Furthermore, Bono is good friends with Bill Clinton, and performed with The Edge at the opening of the Clinton Libary.  There friendship dates back to the 1992 presidential campaign.

Yes, Bono has visited the Bush White House.
But it is for his causes -- not to be Bush's buddy.

by v2aggie2 2006-01-15 10:13AM | 0 recs
Re: humor
Ummm that would probably be Sonny and the little widow, not the singer.  I'm just sayin'.
by Demo Dan in Dayton 2006-01-15 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: humor
thank you for clearing up what i said so that the other person could get it
by bruh21 2006-01-15 12:41PM | 0 recs
Re: humor
My apologies -- I completely forgot about Sonny Bono, and didn't make the connection.
by v2aggie2 2006-01-15 06:08PM | 0 recs
You forgot Cooter
from the Dukes of Hazzard
by Winston Smith 2006-01-15 03:57PM | 0 recs
Re: You forgot Cooter
yeah i did- and there is also fred thompson over at law and order now. the whole premise that hollywood doesnt have conservatives when one looks at congress becomes a joke- its just that republicans dont sit around allowing the other side to say what they are quite as much as we do. it's the whole democratic low self esteem complex i think which drives this need to appear smartest and "serious" and credible rather than plain old fashion' i want to win.
by bruh21 2006-01-15 05:12PM | 0 recs
Re: You forgot Cooter
I thought Cooter was a Democrat
by v2aggie2 2006-01-15 06:10PM | 0 recs
Re: humor
I'll laugh when Bush is gone. Its going to  be a long 2 years...
by molly bloom 2006-01-14 02:03PM | 0 recs
on second thought
i guess a republican wouldn`t say bill clinton was the best president we ever had, that could really come back and haunt him.
by temple1954 2006-01-14 08:27AM | 0 recs
Re: on second thought
He's the best president we've had since carter
by teknofyl 2006-01-14 08:37AM | 0 recs
the attitudes here are why we keep losing
stop stereotyping people
by bruh21 2006-01-14 10:31AM | 0 recs
Oh, And The GOP NEVER Does That!
Here we have a tiny spat of a couple of people confused about the politics of white male country music singers--which an equal, or perhaps greater  number of us have disputed, or poked fun at. ("All Them White Guys Look The Same To Me!" was a joke, son!)

And on the other side, we have decades of attacks on Hollywood as a whole, centuries of attacks on the theatre, fiction (the 19th Century religious right just hated novels!), and science, and millenia of attacks on women, Jews, and "inferior races."

Yup!  You must be right!  We're the ones being punished by God for stereotyping people.

Pat Robertson told me so.  And he got it straight from God.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-01-14 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, And The GOP NEVER Does That!
if this were the first time I saw this sort of arguing flare up - I would be inclined to think that I was over reacting- but it's not. I have seen other atypical choices of ideas for people who want to run as Democrats mentioned, and they got the same kind of reception. It's the need to be the smartest guy in the room mentality which is one among many things that hurts us. What I mean by this is- that if McGraw wants to run, and he shows that he can be a great candidate who shares our values then who are we to discourage him or anyone else simply because he is in country music, especially where we know people will like him because they like his music so we can reduce the work that we have to do. Is reducing our work to do things effectively a bad thing? For example, this week with the Alito hearings- I have yet to have any one explain to me why we thought using legalistic arguments would explain to the American people (who aren't lawyers) why Alito is dangerous? It's like we went in thinking everyone has to be a policy wonk like us in order to get things. There are various ways to approach a situation even when one agrees on values I guess is my point more so than this spat over McGraw. The intollerance part is where we can't see other possibilities of winning because we have it ingrained that there is only one way to be a liberal.
by bruh21 2006-01-15 08:02AM | 0 recs
I'm Afraid That You're The One Who's Stereotyping
A couple of folks were confused over who McGraw was. Blue Map and DaveB started out confused and Winston Smith, who posted this diary, approving of the idea of McGraw running ("Golden Boy," remember?) admitted to knowing nothing more about him, thus (implicitly) becoming temporarily confused--though RBH asked for proof and rapid response set things straight.

temple1954 was the only one who said anything stereotypical--"i`m pretty sure it`s illegal to to be a country star and be a democrat and not slobber all over bush."--but he was being humorous, and he got three responses (two direct, plus my humorous "atta girl" for molly bloom).  Plus, in his comeback, he committed the unpardonable sin of asking for evidence.  Very prejudiced, that. Asking for evidence!  Next thing you know he'll be questioning the President, just because he comes from Texas.  (Even though he doesn't.)

In short, once the confusion is set aside--no one was condescending, and everyone who weighed in, once they understood, thought it was a great idea.

So it seems that the only person here clinging to stereotyping is you.  And you are clearly stereotyping us unfairly, and spreading a rightwing meme.

What's up with that???

I have seen other atypical choices of ideas for people who want to run as Democrats mentioned, and they got the same kind of reception.
A bit of initial confusion and aside from that universal support?  What's wrong with that?  People get confused over typical choices, too.

It's the need to be the smartest guy in the room mentality which is one among many things that hurts us.
Who here ever said Tim McGraw was stupid?  Again, you're the one who's responding stereotypically.

What I mean by this is- that if McGraw wants to run, and he shows that he can be a great candidate who shares our values then who are we to discourage him or anyone else simply because he is in country music, especially where we know people will like him because they like his music so we can reduce the work that we have to do. Is reducing our work to do things effectively a bad thing?
Even though he apparently confused McGraw with Toby Kieth, DaveB said:
If he really is a democrat

then i am sure he could win TN.  He is a country star with TONS of cash and both he and his wife are super good looking.  I am sure that Operah would let them on to run.  

And who better to put the south back in play than a country star?

No one questioned that. What they did question was his confusion of McGraw and Kieth.  Again, your stereotyping is blinding you to what's happening right in front of your eyes.

For example, this week with the Alito hearings- I have yet to have any one explain to me why we thought using legalistic arguments would explain to the American people (who aren't lawyers) why Alito is dangerous?
I have yet to have anyone stand up and defend the Democrats strategy on Alito.... Wait! I have yet to have anyone stand up and explain the Democrats strategy on Alito.... Wait! Who said the Democrats have a strategy on Alito???

You're finally on solid ground, but it's not for the reason you allege.  It's because the Democrats can't get it through there heads that it's all about political theater.  They are stuck on taking the Constitution literarly (the very thing the "Strict Constructionists" mendaciously claim to believe in).  That's their great folly.

by Paul Rosenberg 2006-01-16 06:04AM | 0 recs
Tim McGraw
He can run against Lamar Alexander for Senate in the 2008 Congressional cycle.  Alexander hasn't done anything in the Senate.  He is a do nothing Senator like Jim Talent is.  All he does is support the rightwing agenda but doesn't bring up bills or say anything on the floor that stands out.  Lamar Alexander is vulnerable and can be defeated.  I would like to see Caroline Kennedy run for Gov is Westley or Angelidas is unsuccessful in CA.  She can do it in 2010. She is much more or a Dem than her cousin is the traitor Maria Shiver.
by mleflo2 2006-01-15 05:05AM | 0 recs

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