John Edwards

Why is Newt Gingrich allowed to be all over my teevee and yet John Edwards is radioactive?  Morally, what is the difference between the two men?  They both cheated on sick wives.

Why is John Kennedy considered one of the greatest presidents of all time, yet John Edwards is radioactive?  JFK screwed around with more women than Edwards could ever dream of, yet no one has any problem whatsoever with this.

Bill Clinton is a hero in the Democratic Party, and is treated like royalty, and yet John Edwards is radioactive.  Why?  When it came to adultery, the Big Dog was in a league of his own.

How is John Edwards any worse than Rudy Giuliani, Eliot Spitzer, David Vitter, or any of the countless other politicians who have cheated on their wives--and were allowed to continue their careers?

To be clear, I was never an Edwards supporter.  I never voted for him or donated money to him.  I just think that the way he is treated relative to other cheating politicians is a little unfair.    

Tags: Edwards Gingrich Clinton (all tags)




No one knew Mrs. Ginrich in the hospital when Newt served her the papers.

John had made Elizabeth an image of his family values.

Bill, hell I know Bill was a cheating dog the minute I saw him.

My problem with Bill is the same as with Edwards, how can you hand a grenade to someone likely to shove it up your....

But, even Bill never wrapped himself in family values, kids, wife, like Edwards.

And, Bill didn't cheat on Hillary while she had cancer!

And, Bill didn't pay hush money to Monica OR pay another man to claim to be the father of his out of wedlock child.

But, in the end, I think it's the visibility of Elizabeth, and how John used her and his marriage as a campaign image.

And, finally, the stupidity of Reily-what's her name change.

Any second-rate guitarist in a Seattle band sees her across the bar-room and runs the other way.

Reily-what's-her-name-change was a time bomb and John let her stroke his ego (and other things.)

I never thought he was real anyway, a centerist Southern DLC suddenly, when he senses the wind change, becomes Teddy Roosevelt?

Nope, he got hoisted on his own family image petard.

by WashStateBlue 2009-05-06 05:22AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards

WSB says it all, points are very valid.

by nikkid 2009-05-06 06:03AM | 0 recs

For all of his faults never cheated on his wife when she was diagnosed with a fatal disease.

by Mayor McCheese 2009-05-06 06:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton

I would actually say that cheating on a healthy wife is worse than cheating on a wife unable to have sex while enduring chemotherapy. So I am not going to judge John Edwards urge to get a release considering he can't get any sex at home.(Yes, i know it sounds blunt, but that is the truth).

Having said that,  in Edwards case, he had a kid with his mistress no matter what tale they spin.

I was a big supporter of Elizabeth Edwards, but she needs to stop writing books about this and seek private counseling because her defensiveness is making her look foolish. If she doesn't know John had a baby or not, she needs to demand a DNA test.

Edwards is a hypocrite. He talks about poverty but the life he leads comes courtesy of the millions he earned as a lawyer and he used campaign funds donated by common folk to support his mistress. A poor guy can cheat on his wife. But he wont hve the money to support his mistress so lavishly on the side and pay her hush money.

by Pravin 2009-05-06 07:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Clinton

I've always viewed Edwards as something of a fraud. Thank God we didn't come close to nominating him last time. We could be facing a McCain supreme court nominee to replace Souter.

by Mayor McCheese 2009-05-07 06:52AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards

Speaking of Hillary Clinton, "I think my choices have made me happier," Mrs. Edwards was quoted as saying.

"I think I'm more joyful than she is."

Ya don't say Mrs. Edwards.   All the while you had a dirty little secret.

Go rot.   Both Mr. and Mrs. Edwards are a couple of the worst power hungry political whores to come down the pike in ages.

What were either one of them thinking?

Imagine if Edwards had won, or been selected as Vice President?   Where would we be today as we sit here trying to pass legislation?    In a deep pile of shit thats where.

But these two didn't care about that.   Campaigning stroked their ego and allowed John to have a something else stroked as well.

I have no use for either of them.  I feel sorry for their kids being raised by two such people.

by RichardFlatts 2009-05-06 06:25AM | 0 recs
Karma's a bitch

I remember Edwards castigating Bill Clinton during the Lewinsky affair. Being someone from North Carolina, most people thought of him as a hypocritical and smarmy little SOB. He had no conviction but did what was politically expedient. He used his position at UNC to start his political campaign without doing anything for the university or the program that the University placed at his disposal. If that was not enough he used his campaign money paid by citizens who he bamboozled to pay his mistress. Good riddance.

by tarheel74 2009-05-06 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Karma's a bitch

And ya know what, Monica was at least sort of cute.   This Hunter chick looks like a skank.

by RichardFlatts 2009-05-06 07:11AM | 0 recs
Look like one? She is one! er

Hell, she is infamous, she was the model for a character in a book that is beyond skank!

That is what is so revealing about the Edwards campaign.

They HAD to have run a background check on this woman; LOOK at her history, any decent security guy runs her off as bad news walking...

by WashStateBlue 2009-05-08 12:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Karma's a bitch

I agree about the hypocrisy of criticizing Clinton for having an affair, but that was before he did it, and it's easy to criticize a behavior you don't think you'll engage in.  Gingrich, on the other hand, was in the middle of his own affair at the time of the impeachment.

As for his position at UNC--he funded it, so it's hard to complain about what he did with it.  He's given quite a pile of money to UNC

by slynch 2009-05-06 10:57AM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards

I agree with the overall thesis of this diary.  Edwards did what many men with power and fame do--it breeds narcissism.  I'm not saying it's right, but he isn't alone, and it is certainly troublesome that he's been singled out.

I certainly feel sorry for Elizabeth, and I realize that her illness drives a lot of the anger toward Edwards.  But, at the same time, unless you've lived with a sick (and ultimately dying) partner, you can't really understand.  Walk a mile in his shoes before you judge.

My problem with what he did boils down simply to the fact that he chose to run for office with this not-so-hideable skeleton in his closet that would've cost us the election had he become the nominee.

by slynch 2009-05-06 11:04AM | 0 recs
Elizabeth isn't innocent here

She went out and campaigned for him knowing.

What if he had been elected?

What her kids are living through now is rough, but imagine if Dad was Prez.  and this hit?

She is just as bad as John.

by RichardFlatts 2009-05-06 11:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Elizabeth isn't innocent here

you may be right that she is just as bad, but my argument is that neither is that bad.  

by slynch 2009-05-06 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards

The difference is that for most liberals values are an end while for too many conservatives (not all) values are a means to an end.

by Charles Lemos 2009-05-06 04:35PM | 0 recs
Edwards will be back

never as prominent as he was, but he'll be back in the public eye as he wants to be.  Hell, Eliot Spitzer is quietly coming back.  He has a column in Slate.

by JJE 2009-05-06 09:22PM | 0 recs
Re: Edwards will be back

Eliot Spitzer was hypocritical too with his crackdown on prostitution in the past. But the guy actually has accomplished something concrete in taking care of bad guys. I really think the Obama admin should try to use him as an unofficial advisor. Also I believe his hypocrisy to accomplishment ratio is lower than Edwards. And I say this as someone who actually had Edwards as his second leading choice in the last primaries.

by Pravin 2009-05-07 07:29AM | 0 recs
All true

the only point I'm making is that while Edwards might be radioactive right now, given time he will work his way back into public respectability (assuming he wants to).

by JJE 2009-05-07 08:05AM | 0 recs
Re: All true

I respectfully disagree. Edwards is toast: AS HE SHOULD BE.

Its amazing how many people on the netroots bought  his act and that they are still standing up for him.

by obama4presidente 2009-05-07 05:00PM | 0 recs
Re: All true

I agree with you.

by Cherubim 2009-06-04 08:42PM | 0 recs
Re: All true
I mean I agree John Edwards definitely
has a political future.
by Cherubim 2009-06-04 08:43PM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards
John and Elizabeth Edwards have been married for 32 years. Early in their marriage they had two children. After the death of their 16 year old son, they had two additional children. So, they are now still rearing two very young children. In addition, Elizabeth Edwards has Stage 4 Cancer. Any decent human being would not have inserted herself into their lives, and then sold stories about them to the National Enquirer for monetary gain; but this, is exactly what Lisa Druke a.k.a., the Rielle (Real) Hunter did. Frankly, I think John Edwards was set up by some unknown political operatives who paid the Hunter to do the job (Nice work if you can get it.)
By the way, I found Elizabeth's new book, Resilience, to be quite inspirational.
I think everyone would benefit from reading the passage in the book that
tells the story of the Japanese woman who survived the atomic bomb that
was dropped on Hiroshima.
by Cherubim 2009-06-04 08:40PM | 0 recs


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