CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

In an insult to every American, CNN has a new poll up on its front page asking readers, "Does Barack Obama show the proper patriotism for someone who wants to be president of the United States?"

George Bush could torture a thousand Iraqi children, invade thirty countries, and drown a sack of puppies, and they would never ask this question about him. But apparently, it's acceptable journalistic integrity to pose the question about a sitting United States Senator.

While my email was filled with too many explitives to repeat on MyDD, my girlfriend wrote a more thoughtful and reasoned response. She writes:

CNN has crossed the line with the recent QuickVote poll on Sen. Barack Obama's patriotism.  Senator Obama has served this country and his state of Illinois admirably.  He has pushed for some of the most progressive legislations, and in return he gets attacked for not wearing a lapel pin?  He has inspired Americans to get more involved in politics and empowered them to take control over their government, and you enable those who call him unpatriotic.  Let me tell you what's unpatriotic: Sending 4000 troops to their death for an unnecessary and botched war, neglecting disenfranchised Americans in Katrina, torturing people, and so on.  It is cowardly for CNN to put up a poll questioning the patriotism of a US Senator who has worked to unite this country, and meanwhile CNN lets one of the worst administrations in our history go unchecked.  Good job CNN, you have joined the ranks of McCarthyan politics.  Patriotism is not a flag on the front yard, and it's not people who toot their own horns.  It's about people who take actions to better their communities and their country, and Senator Obama has done just that.

I urge everyone, Clinton and Obama supporters, to rally behind this outrageous attack on the patriotism of Barack Obama and his family.

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89 Comments

Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

I hope this is one issue where Obama and Clinton Supporters can agree.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:30PM | 0 recs
This is the backlash

The media helps to build people up, then tear them down. I think that he will be able to withstand these types of attacks though. His support is very deep, in that it would take something outrageous for his supporters to turn away from him. These kinds of stories may make him look even worse to conservatives, etc, but there is plenty of time and there will be more than enough money to counter attack.

by highgrade 2008-02-24 03:32PM | 0 recs
Re: This is the backlash

I for one, am not leaving anything to chance. We saw what they did to John Kerry. This time around we have to be loud, be outraged, and question the patriotism of the people QUESTIONING OUR PATRIOTISM!

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:41PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Hey, the media has been giving Obama a free pass for far too long already. Attacks like this are rarely fair and Hillary has had far more than her fair share. This is just a light tap on the shoulder. Should Obama become the nominee, the GOP will take the gloves off and let him have it. They've been amassing quite a pile of negatives on Obama but they won't spill the beans until it's too late.

by Nobama 2008-02-24 03:41PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

huh? Do you remember what they did to John Kerry?

If you don't stand up against this unfair attack, and Obama becomes the nominee, you'll regret the next 100 years in Iraq.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:42PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

huh? Do you remember what they did to John Kerry?

If you don't stand up against this unfair attack, and Obama becomes the nominee, you'll regret the next 100 years in Iraq.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:42PM | 0 recs
MSNBC + CNN Dispicable Attacks Obama's Patriotism

These McCarthite attacks are a poke in the eye aimed at all Democrats.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-02-24 03:42PM | 0 recs
Re: MSNBC + CNN Dispicable Attacks

absolutely! I will not stand for it.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:43PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Full disclosure: I am a Hillary Clinton supporter and for months I have watched the press destroy her campaign by placing her in the most negative light that they possibly could. There are too many instances but I will only give a single example: When Hillary attacks Barack she "scolds" him. When he attacks he "jabs" at her.

Having said that, I think it is inappropriate for CNN or any other news network to behave in this manner to any member of government.

The media had began to question Obamania for about a week, but I think SNL has brought it to the fore. These guys build you up only to knock you down. I hope he can handle the shock to his system.

by LadyEagle 2008-02-24 03:43PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

This isn't about Obama, it's about a tactic that has no place in our government.

YOU DONT ATTACK SOMEONES PATRIOTISM TO TRY AND WIN AN ELECTION.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:44PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

may I also add, that I have stood up to the sexist attacks against Hillary, like when matt Schuster called Chelsea a whore?

I don't think that this should be an opportunity for Clinton supporters to score points. We have to be a unified party in the fact of these kinds of attacks.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:46PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Ha! Ha!

'bout time he got some heat.

better they do it now.

by BRockNYC 2008-02-24 03:49PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

?????

You would really rather lose in the fall, watch a rising Democratic star be smeared, than admit it's an unfair attack?

This isn't an opportunity to prove a point about the candidate you'd prefer, it's a moment to reject the kind of tactics they tried against John Kerry in 2004.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:51PM | 0 recs
He's your star, not mine

A citizen should be able to refuse the pledge of allegiance, to wear a flag pin, or to have a spouse say she's proud of America for the first time because her husband just got a big promotion.

It is very questionable, however, whether the majority of Americans would choose to extend that same slack to someone running for president.

by lombard 2008-02-24 03:59PM | 0 recs
Re: He's your star, not mine

I absolutely agree with you. However, there is no candidate in this race who is "guilty" of either of those things.

Michelle Obama mispoke, and was referring to the politics in the country. And Obama regularly leads the pledge of allegiance.

If you're a Democrat and you're questioning Obama's love of country, then our party has big problems.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:01PM | 0 recs
Re: He's your star, not mine

And a lawyer should be able to defend a child-rapist and attack his 12 year old victim, but I doubt America would choose to support a Woman like taht for president.

by Socraticsilence 2008-02-24 04:02PM | 0 recs
Re: He's your star, not mine

what?

now you're comparing Obama to a child rapist?

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:03PM | 0 recs
I don't know what you are talking about but

A lawyer has a professional duty to represent a client to the best of his or her ability. Lawyers aren't allowed to take a dive.  They could face disciplinary actions if they do.  And, from what I understand, lawyers who are assigned clients by courts, don't really have a lot of freedom to decline.

The behaviors of the Obama family, however, are entirely by choice.

by lombard 2008-02-24 04:07PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know what you are talking about but

lol. you just "drop" the idea of a lawyer representing a child rapist while talking about the Obama family's "life choices" being unpatriotic.

Well I'm happy to say that anyone who questions what's in the heart of another American is UNPATRIOTIC THEMSELVES.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:09PM | 0 recs
Piss off, leftist

And don't give me the whiny, elitist (at least in your own mind) tone.

I assumed the poster was talking about some client represented by Clinton as part of her work with legal services in her youth (that's my guess, anyway).  I was merely distinguishing the difference between choices in personal behaviors and professional responsibilities.

by lombard 2008-02-24 04:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Piss off, leftist

piss off leftist?

What are you John McCain's speechwriter?

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:21PM | 0 recs
No, I worked for Jesse Helms.

by lombard 2008-02-24 04:28PM | 0 recs
Re: No, I worked for Jesse Helms.

you need to update your language. "Hippies" and "leftists" and "Maoist Rebels" aren't around anymore in American politics.

Today we have two corporate parties, who fight over issues of character instead of policy. One whose proud it voted for the Iraq war, and one whose sorry, but both continue to support it.

I am proud to support my candidate, but please, don't try to tell me what my politics are when you know enough about me to fill a napkin.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:35PM | 0 recs
OK, OK, I guess I just got carried away

My normal reaction is to not leave an insult unanswered.

by lombard 2008-02-24 04:38PM | 0 recs
Re: I don't know what you are talking about but

For context, I am a lawyer in New York. A lawyer certainly is obligated to zealously defend their clients. HOWEVER, there are limits placed on your advocacy -- both by common decency, morality and laws. In this case, Clinton ultimately got a reduced sentence due to evidentiary issues. She WAS NOT REQUIRED (and indeed lawyers today routinely DO NOT) attack the rape victim unless there is a demonstrated rather than manufactured basis to do so. For her to call herself a champion of women's rights but yet attack a TWELVE YEAR OLD RAPE VICTIM is abhorrent and ridiculous.

Here is the article: http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/ ny-usark245589997feb24,0,2670956.story

In her defense of an accused rapist (who certainly deserves a lawyer) Hillary Clinton forcefully impugned the 12-year-old rape victim, implying that the girl often fantasized and sought out "older men". Asked about it now, the rape victim said "It's not true, I never sought out older men - I was raped."

by oregonkcg 2008-02-24 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: He's your star, not mine

Ummm - he didn't "refuse to say the pledge of allegiance"

by pastor john 2008-02-24 04:07PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Yeah, I'd rather see him go down now than later.

by BRockNYC 2008-02-24 04:02PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

That's called selfish shortsightedness.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:03PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

So, sue me.

You so called progressives  and the media have been absolutely horrible to Hillary.  I will enjoy seeing him taken apart.

by BRockNYC 2008-02-24 04:09PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

I have defended Hillary from sexist attacks on SEVERAL occassions, particular from MSNBC.

It doesn't advance my cause to tear her down. But for some reason, you are so bitter you'd like to see Obama torn down.

Well when John McCain appoints the next Supreme Court justice, and women in this country can't get access to abortions, you'll have to look in the mirror for who to blame.

Taking down Obama is NOT in any Democrat's interest even if he's not the nominee. He's an asset to the party PERIOD.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:12PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

So, sue me!

You so called progressives, the media and Obamabots  have been horrible to Hillary.

I will enjoy seeing him taken apart.

by BRockNYC 2008-02-24 04:32PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

I am a PROGGRESSIVE and i am for OBAMA.  I want to know why the 2 most popular progressive radio talk show hosts (Rhandi Rhodes & Ed Schultz) are both slanted towards Obama if he is truly a Rovian right-wing agent working to dismantle progressive policy?

by affratboy22 2008-02-24 05:53PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

who cares?  I couldn't care less about either of them.

by BRockNYC 2008-02-24 06:23PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

right because you dont care, you just hate Obama so much because you want Hillary president so bad (for reasons i want mention) that you will bring him down any way you can.  You know all this "rovian" cult crap is bullshit, why dont you just tell the truth, your dislike for Obama comes out of hate kinda like the right wing.

by affratboy22 2008-02-24 07:41PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Sorry, no cigar.

Lifelong Democrat here.  I don't have to be  a Republican to recognize that your messiah leaves a little to be desired.

Sorry to burst your little bubble.

by BRockNYC 2008-02-25 02:25AM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

"little to be desired"?  Have you seen the way this race is going?  He is expanding his demographic appeal every week in every new election.  The polls in WI were close then Obama +17, spliting women, winning <50,000?  Little to be desired? Now thats the biggest fairy tale i've ever seen?

by affratboy22 2008-02-25 09:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Nasty November campaign

Sorry but the Media has been guilty of Reverse Discrimination when it comes to Senator Barack Obama  since 2004.

Many Democrats, particularly many Clinton supporters & some Edwards supporters have repeatedly brought this media bias issue up for the last 6 months.

But it has fallen on deaf ears especially among Obama fans.

Yes, it is not Obama's fault if the Media is in love with him & his story of being the 1st Black President. I don't blame him at all for riding the media. Any politician would.

But I don't want to hear cries of racism, bias, bigotry from Obama democrats when there are times that the media treats him like everyone else. Which is almost never when it comes to Obama.

As many here keep rightfully repeating. Obama will receive vicious attacks from right wingers this Fall. Personal attacks that No One here has ever seen nor experienced. It will be as ugly if not worst than what they did to Bill Clinton from 1992 to 2000.

My concern goes beyond Obama. What this attacks will do is once again taint & define the Left wing of our party as a bunch of weak socialist wackos who want to protect terrorist & make friends with our Islam enemies.

Since I expect the entire Liberal left of our party to to go all out & protect Obama at all cost in the Fall, this will bring Liberals two steps back again in terms of how they are viewed by majority of mainstream americans.

by labanman 2008-02-24 07:54PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

They have to do it now. They always go after the front runner. They went after Hillary for months and months. Obama is now the front runner, so he takes the heat.

I don't see a problem with it. IT's how things have always been done. Obama will do just fine.

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 03:57PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

it was done in 2004 and it worked.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:57PM | 0 recs
The Media has to try to tear him down

The media always goes after the front runner. It's always the pattern.

Obama will weather this just fine.

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 03:55PM | 0 recs
Re: The Media has to try to tear him down

it's an inappropriate question to ask of a sitting US Senator.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 03:55PM | 0 recs
The rightwing has raised the issue

IT doesn't bother me at all. Obama will handle it just fine.

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 03:58PM | 0 recs
Re: The rightwing has raised the issue

If it doesn't bother you that people question a Democrat's patriotism, but they don't question the patriotism of a party that led us to war without the armor our troops needed, or the proper medical care at VA hospitals when they come home, then I suggest you have lost perspective.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:00PM | 0 recs
Re: The rightwing has raised the issue

No, it doesn't bother me in the least.

It's the death throes of the old politics.

Se my post below where I quote Obama's responses to the three front war he is currently engaged in against McCain, Clinton, and NAder. All three are going after him, and none of them are making any headway.

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 04:05PM | 0 recs
Obama engaged in a three front war

and he's shut down the attacks on all fronts with ease and grace:

Barack Obama
Newly Engaged in a Three-Front War

By Alec MacGillis
TOLEDO -- So this is what being a front-runner deep in primary season looks like: taking flak on three sides.

Sen. Barack Obama found himself today facing insinuations from Republicans that he lacks patriotism, charges from Hillary Clinton that he is a hypocrite on campaign ethics, and put-downs from Ralph Nader, who in announcing his third-party candidacy this morning dismissed Obama as well-intentioned but in hock to the corporate agenda.

So far, at least, Obama is showing that he can stand his ground and return fire on all fronts.

-snip-
"The way I will respond to it is with the truth. I owe everything I am to this country. The reason I came to national attention was a speech in which I spoke of my love for this country," he said. "The notion that I am disqualified because at one event I was singing the national anthem but failed to put my hand over my heart -- if that were the case, that must disqualify half the people who've ever gone to a football game."

His wife, he said, had clarified her comments to make clear that what she meant was that this was the first time she was "proud of politics in America, and that's true of a lot of people." As for the pin, he said, "if we want to start getting into those definitions of patriotism," then he would come back with questions for a "a party that presided over a war where the troops that didn't get the body armor they needed" and is "undermining our Constitution with warrantless wiretaps that are unnecessary."
"That's a debate I'm more than willing to have," he said. "We'll see what the Americans think is the true definition of patriotism."

-snip-
Obama's answer was even tougher than one he gave Saturday about Nader. "Ralph Nader's view is, unless it's Ralph Nader, then you're not tough enough on any of these issues," he said. "He thought there was no difference between Al Gore and George Bush. I think eight years later, people realize Ralph doesn't know what he's talking about."

-snip-
"She's essentially presented herself as co-president during the Clinton years. Every good thing that happened she says she was a part of," he said. "So the notion that she can selectively pick what you take credit for and then run away from what isn't politically convenient, that doesn't make sense. If she's suggesting she had nothing to do with economic policy in the Clinton White House, then it would not be fair , but as you know, that's not the claim that she's making."

Link

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 04:01PM | 0 recs
Get used to it

This is nothing unexpected.

by Coldblue 2008-02-24 04:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Get used to it

right, but it's wrong and it's hurtful to the party and America.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Get used to it

Of course it's expected.

And Obama is handling attacks from three different sides as if they are nothing by minor annoyances, gnats to be swatted away with no effort at all.

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 04:09PM | 0 recs
Really?

He has taken on the just launched media attacks?

Wow, save me some of whatever your drinking.

by Coldblue 2008-02-24 04:21PM | 0 recs
Your so-called &quot;media attacks&quot;

are simply reporting of the conservative attacks which he alread addressed.

Please, do try to keep up.

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 04:33PM | 0 recs
I'm so sorry

How foolish of me to not accept that once HE has spoken, we all have our marching orders.

Cocky won't get him elected.

by Coldblue 2008-02-24 04:40PM | 0 recs
Re: I'm so sorry

You really don't have a clue how politics and the media work, do you?

by Walt Starr 2008-02-24 04:41PM | 0 recs
Better than you

obviously.

by Coldblue 2008-02-24 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Now Obama's supporters are criticizing the media for a poll when you candidate has had a free pass for the last year. Give me a freaking break. Take your beating and shut up, you more than deserve it after what you and the media has done to Clinton.

by RJEvans 2008-02-24 04:11PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

"Taking your beating and shut up"

I defended Chelsea from Shuster's sexist attack. Where are your morals, and what lessons did you learn from the 2004 attacks on John Kerry's patriotism?

You WANT to lose, and if you're what this party is about in 2008, maybe we deserve to lose.

Don't be so bitter you can't see the big picture here. They are trying to tear down the only black US Senator in the US Congress, and the first viable black candidate. We cannot allow this tactic to work.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:14PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

questioning his patriotism has NOTHING to do with the fact that he is black.  why did his race enter your thoughts?

by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:18PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

You need to re-read what I'm saying. If they destroy Obama's patriotism, they are taking down the stature and value of the ONLY BLACK US SENATOR in America. He's an asset to the party, and he must be defended when attacked by unscrupulous Republicans.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:20PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

What does being black have to do with it? It has nothing to do with it. You inserted race into this.

by RJEvans 2008-02-24 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

jesus christ. I'm not accusing anyone of racism. I'm saying that he's a historic figure in the US Senate.

Even if Obama loses this thing, he's an important party leader going forward as one of only three black US Senators in our history.

He's an asset, and NO DEMOCRAT should take pleasure in people unfairly attacking he and his wife's patriotism.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

By your argument, we should defend Obama if he breaks the law just because he is the only African-American U.S. Senator.

by RJEvans 2008-02-24 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

actually, that's not my argument, so chill out.

I'm trying to get people to zoom out of this tense race for a minute and realize that he's an important figure in the party. African Americans are a VERY important and reliable constituency for Democrats. He's a source of great pride to that community, and that's RELEVANT in terms of how he's treated.

I didn't defend William Jefferson when he had 90k in his freezer, and I won't now. it's a different issue.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Actually, it is your argument.

and that's RELEVANT in terms of how he's treated.

Oh, I get it, so because he is an African-American Senator, he must get special treatment.

You did not answer my question, if Obama breaks the law, do we give him special treatment because he is the only African-American Senator.

How about the only Muslim Congressman. Do we give him special treatment? He is important to our Party, right? How about the 16 female Senators? Better yet, should the Republicans treat Governor Jindal special?

by RJEvans 2008-02-24 04:38PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Ok I tell you what, forget the fact that he's a "very unique" member of the US Senate, and just respect the fact that he's a sitting US Senator, and a frontrunner Presidential candidate, who doesn't deserve the have his patriotism questioned.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:41PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

who doesn't deserve the have his patriotism questioned.

Why not?

forget the fact that he's a "very unique"

I see you have found your words less than appropriate.

by RJEvans 2008-02-24 04:45PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism
he is running for president!  i dont' care where he or she comes from.  they deserve to have their patriotism questioned.  
my father is a veteran and he told me that he could never vote for obama based on comments from his wife, the american flag pin and the pledge thing.  he feels insulted by all that.
if my father is beginning to feel this way, others are as well.
heck, i feel a bit that way as well and i am waiting an explanation from obama that i feel is sincere.
by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:47PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Obama has pushed his attacks on Clinton for a year and the media said nothing. They looked on gleefully hoping to end the political career of the Clinton's. Give me a break. This is nothing compared to what the media could could do. The media asks the public a question and you get enraged with anger over it.

Don't be so bitter you can't see the big picture here. They are trying to tear down the only black US Senator in the US Congress, and the first viable black candidate.

So this is all about race? This is about Obama being black? Who is playing the race card again?

by RJEvans 2008-02-24 04:22PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

It's not about race, but Obama is a major asset to the Democratic party and a historic figure in the US Senate. There have only been three black Senators in US History.

I'm saying it isn't in the Democratic party's interest to lose him.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:23PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

I'll say it again: By your argument, we should defend Obama if he breaks the law just because he is the only African-American U.S. Senator. That is a poor argument.

by RJEvans 2008-02-24 04:25PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

if they are tearing him down based on justified concerns than i can't defend him.  i don't care what his race is.  perhaps deep down inside you are beginning to realize he is not the man, leader or patriot everyone has thought him to be and you are freaking out?

by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:29PM | 0 recs
He doesn't want us, remember?

First of all, Obama is the 5th, not the 3rd, African American Senator.

http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/history /h_multi_sections_and_teasers/Photo_Exhi bit_African_American_Senators.htm

Thus, his historical significance is somewhat less than you imply. In any event, the Democratic party can very well prosper even if it "loses" him.

In any event, Mr. Barack Obama seems to have already "lost" out party, even if if has not lost him. He hardly ever utters the words "Democrat" or "Democratic." He is all about some sort of "reaching out to" and "unity with" Independents and Republicans.

As a hardcore Democrat, I spurn the tired, phony questions of "patriotism" put forth by the MSM and the right wing sound machine. On the other hand, I do not take kindly to politicians who run under our party's banner as a flag of convenience. Let the Independents and Republicans, who Mr. Obama seems to prefer to good, honest Democrats, rush to the defense, if they see fit to do so, of his patriotism. I, for one, couldn't care less what happens to this Democrat in Name Only, appeaser, fence straddling, POS, trimmer, "post partisan," all-things-to-all-people, phony as a three dollar bill, opportunist.

by freemansfarm 2008-02-24 05:05PM | 0 recs
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aww why didnt she cry about it.  Ohh wait she did and the scary part...it worked!

by affratboy22 2008-02-24 05:59PM | 0 recs
Re: CNN Attacks Obama's Patriotism

Hey is being vetted.  better now than in the fall. as many have already posted, obama has had it easy with the press.  the press is now adding pressure and he has to take it.
questioning his patriotism is justified here.

  1. his church has a "non-negotiable commitment to africa"
  2. he chose not to wear the american flag pin
  3. he doesn't cover his heart during the pledge
  4. his wife's comments about not being proud of american in her adult life.

at face value, this doesn't look like a very patriotic nominee.  to run for president, you have to prove you would die for this country.  this is why the american public has always loved war heros as presidents.  

now each of these can be explained, but obama is gonna have to do it soon because when the GOP/press bring these issues to middle america, it will scare them into voting mccain.

by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:16PM | 0 recs
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"Questioning his patriotism is justified here"

WHAT? Come on. Are you so conditioned by the GOP that you actually think it's appropriate in American politics to question the patriotism of a sitting US Senator?

Obama has said he owes EVERYTHING to this country, his wife was tired and misspoke. He has LED THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE in the US Senate, and what on earth does his Church's commitment to Africa have to do with anything?

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:18PM | 0 recs
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absolutely questioning his patriotism is justified here.  it is justified for any person running for president.  its the highest office in the country.
this is not a GOP thing or a dem thing, its an american thing.  
what obama says is a reflection of what he does.  he has led the pledge, but doesn't cover his heart as tradition dictates.  yes, his wife misspoke, more than once.  its unfortunate because that has turned off a lot of people now.  you can't always explain everything.
obama has said that the church he belongs to has guided his life.  well, people will be concerned when the church tells him he is to be commited to africa before america.
sorry, these are the facts and middle america will not do the research or put the time into determining if they are justified or not.  they will read it and make a decision.  most likely for mccain if i had to guess.
so my advice is for obama to start explaining and ending any concerns people may have because they are very justified concerns.
by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:26PM | 0 recs
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 So I guess attacking everything about Senator Clinton is cool.. And attacks against Senator Obama will hurt the party...

 The media is being nicer than the Republicans will be if he wins the nominee.  Maybe his supporters should realize, he is not just going to win the Presidency because he is the nominee..

by patti 2008-02-24 04:19PM | 0 recs
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absolutely not. That's why I've defended Hillary from sexist attacks.

We need to act like a party again, and soon, before it's too late and the Republicans snatch victory from the jaws of defeat.

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:22PM | 0 recs
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you are absolutely right.  we need to act like a party again and put the strongest candidate forward.  perhaps we should all take a step back and ask ourselves "is obama the strongest candidate we have?"  "do we know enough about this guy, his past, who he is, what he believes in?"  perhaps he is the best, but then again, many people may begin to change their minds.  if we make the right decision, dems win in the fall.  if we don't, hello president mccain.

by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:32PM | 0 recs
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Interesting, i haven't forced anyone out.  have you?

by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:37PM | 0 recs
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You're talking to someone whose donated and volunteered for Senator Obama for well over a year, so spare the attacks. This post was never about who we should choose as our nominee, but how democrats should respond to a scurilous attack by CNN (not Republicans, mind you).

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:38PM | 0 recs
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and i have contributed and volunteered for many democrats over the years, Gore, Kerry, Sen. Webb and now Clinton.
I am happy to support whoever wins the nomination.  but i am all for the nominees being fully vetted BEFORE they win so we dont' have to deal with another swift boat attack adn watch our chances of winning fad as fall approaches.
regarding your post, i think it is fully acceptable that the media is questioning his patriotism in light of the reasons i have posted above.  its always justified and i only wish we had done that more with bush beforehand.
if obama is a true patriot, he has nothing to worry about.  if not, than yes, he and you should worry.  
by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:41PM | 0 recs
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stop whining

by washingtoncritic 2008-02-24 04:38PM | 0 recs
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washington crtic,
you and i agree on that one.  looks like a disgruntled edwards supporter i am guessing.
by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:44PM | 0 recs
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ok we get it.  you hate the dems so much, go vote for mccain and leave the party to true democrats who are trying to make the democratic party a stronger party and not just sit here and whin all day.

by Scope441 2008-02-24 04:58PM | 0 recs
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And we can find odious people who support Hillary as well (ie Norman Hsu).  But in this case Obama doesn't support Farrakhan, and surely doesn't seek Farrakhan's support, so what exactly is your point?  Obama can't control who supports him.  

by gobacktotexas 2008-02-24 04:28PM | 0 recs
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Illogical example. Norman Hsu also donated to Obama but I understand you are blinded.

Taking 100,000 USD is a crime if taking 800,000 USD is (in your eyes).

by Sandeep 2008-02-24 05:18PM | 0 recs
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Taking 100,000 USD is a crime if taking 800,000 USD is (in your eyes).

What?

by gobacktotexas 2008-02-24 05:24PM | 0 recs
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TeeHee.

When did Obamabots rally behind the racism lies put forth against the Clintons? No, you stoked it. Racism is a serious crippling charge and to some unforgiveable when it's a lie.

You Obamabots are too squeamish about your dear leader. Not to worry, CNN is still shilling for him, so what are you complaining about.

Chill out.

by India 2008-02-24 05:16PM | 0 recs
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OMG, i just went over to dkos and it is as if someone stirred the ant's nest.  they are all in a hissy fit.  god forbid you question obama on anything over at dkos.
i used to think bushies were bad.  they should just call him King Obama over at dkos.
by Scope441 2008-02-24 05:20PM | 0 recs
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I think Obama's response was terrific, namely that he was eight years old when the Weathermen started bombing places and that it's ridiculous to think he had any connection to them.

by Drummond 2008-02-24 09:10PM | 0 recs

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