• Another post, another 20 Juno comments pouring gasoline on rapidly diminishing flames.

  • The thing is, the Clinton's would make sure that they would overshadow him just by the nature of who they are, at least on the drama front (just catch Bill's rants the last couple of days).

    And Obama shouldn't have to handle that in a VP.

    You can make a decent argument that Bill Clinton torpedoed Hillary Clinton's chances in the primary. Do you really think he's going to do any better for Obama?

    Didn't think so.

  • comment on a post Reflections on the RBC outcome over 6 years ago

    As usual, Al Giordano at The Field says it best:

    Essentially, all that the DNC's Rules & Bylaws committee did yesterday was ratify the consensus proposals from the two state Democratic Party organizations, and then ratify their own mission - with an eye on being able to set the 2012 and future primary schedules - by halving the votes of each state. The Sunday morning quarterbacks that say "well, they should have done it my way instead" seem oblivious to the larger consideration: these were the grassroots solutions proposed from the bottom-up by the parties in each state. To do anything else would have been a "top down" imposition, compounding, in lieu of solving, the problems.

    Florida was the easy call because its beauty contest at least had each of the candidates on the ballot; Michigan, the rub, because it did not. Those who opine that the Obama campaign should have been still more generous by offering 36.5 Michigan delegates to Senator Clinton instead of 34.5 (a difference of two delegate votes) overlap considerably with those that have pushed the bogus "popular vote math" arguments. They need to look in the mirror and see that they are the ones that made that particular nuance necessary. Their obsessive suggestions that a fixed contest in which Obama wasn't on the ballot should be counted toward some kind of uber-national "popular vote" metric were precisely the simulations that made it mandatory for the committee to do something concrete that expressly did not ratify the bogus results of what Senator Carl Levin and the other Michigan leaders acknowledged was "a flawed primary." Had the committee based its conclusion entirely on that January 15 beauty contest, those same people would be out there with all-new "popular vote" claims that defy common sense and democracy itself. What happened yesterday is that those claims now have no leg to stand on: the bogus results have now rightfully been put in their own dunce-cap corner, away from the rest. Some will still try to include them in with the grand total, but few are going to consider their claims legitimate.

  • on a comment on Reflections on the RBC outcome over 6 years ago

    Once again, with feeling...

    There were 13 people on that committee who have publicly endorsed Clinton. Only 26 people voted on the Michigan resolution. The final result was 18-8.

    This means that 5, or if you prefer, 38.5% of the Clinton supporters sitting on that committee voted for the resolution.

    But somehow, in your mind, Obama was in the back room, magically pulling all the puppet strings, meanwhile calling all his minions in the media to control the spin.

    Chuck Todd of MSNBC (of course after being instructed by Obama himself) posted the story that Obama had the votes to force a 50%-50% delegate split. This, of course, would have required the defection of at least 1 of the Clinton supporters to get a 14-12 vote. Of course all of the 'independents' were secretly in the bag for Obama.

    So, after viewing the awesome powers of Obama, who can control the media and get his political enemies to cross over and support him without even being in the room, why would you want any other person for president? Handling the likes of your typical mid-eastern despot ruler should be child's play for him.

  • on a comment on Overnight Thread over 6 years ago

    Juno, honestly.....what do you want Obama to say? I've read dozens of your comments here, and I don't have a clue how you think he should have responded to this.

    In your words...what should Obama have said?

  • on a comment on Overnight Thread over 6 years ago

    She didn't make a gaffe..

    Then why has HRC spent the last 2 days backpedaling as fast as she could?

  • This is about pointing out the flaws in the system.

    No it's not, and you aren't fooling anyone.

  • on a comment on Context over 6 years ago

    Yea, because we all know that when HRC opens her mouth and says something that is at best incredibly stupid, it's Obama's fault.

  • on a comment on Context over 6 years ago

    So exhausted that she's said it more than once? That's a lot of exhaustion.

    But I forget - she was exhausted, according to Bill, when she 'misspoke' about Bosnia 8 or 9 times also.

  • on a comment on The Politics Of Violence over 6 years ago

    Yea, right, she's just staying in the race because you know sometimes other candidates get assassinated.

    Who the hell else is she talking about????

    This is beyond disgusting, and far worse than what Huckabee said a few days ago.

  • on a comment on Florida & May 31st over 6 years ago

    You might want to watch this video of FL State Sen. Steve Geller, on his reaction to the 'sabotage', as you call it, by the Florida GOP.

    Sen Geller is one of the individuals who filed the suit.

    It really has to be seen to be believed. He's literally laughing it off on the State Senate Floor.

  • on a comment on Clinton's role over 6 years ago

    2 pledged delegates have announced they are switching from Clinton to Obama. The Obama website is not including them in their totals.

    I really wish they wouldn't - I spent most of yesterday at our district convention, where I was responsible for doing the vote tallies to elect pledged delegates in NC District 11 - after that type of work and effort, which I assume has been replicated all across the nation, it's a travesty for a pledged delegate to switch - it's bad faith, and is betraying the trust other people placed in the individual when elected in the first place.

    I say this as a strong Obama supporter. This is bad business, and I'm glad the Obama campaign isn't recognizing these delegates.

  • on a comment on Clinton's role over 6 years ago

    Good point about CA,  and don't assume Obama would have lost California if it had been winner take all. He would have camped out there for months, like all the other candidates.

    Remember the only state that happened in? Iowa. Remember who came in first and who came in third?

  • With all due respect, I live in Appalachia, and I will quit worrying about racial issues influencing voting patterns when we can stand on a street corner holding Obama signs without having racial epitaphs screamed at us. These comments were yelled at us even when there were multiple children around. And it's not something that happened once, it happened repeatedly, over a period of several days.

    I'll have no more concerns when the Democratic county chairman doesn't take Obama campaign signs out of the window of the local Democratic headqtrs, saying they are "too controversial".

    I'll stop questioning race as a reason for support when a friend and HRC supporter quits coming up to me, relating how she's had people stop her when she was wearing her Hillary button in public, telling her she was making the right choice, not voting for the n****. This friend, btw, is a founding member of the local MLK Commission. This has happened more than once.

    I'll feel better about racial issues in this region when an Obama sign lasts more than 8 hours after being placed outdoors. Over 30 signs have disappeared - every single one placed in this county over a period of weeks, while signs for every other candidate remain untouched. Signs placed outside of polling areas were removed inside of an hour. BTW, an adopt-a-highway sign from a stretch of road the MLK Commission adopted to pick up trash was stolen a week after it went up.

    It's sad, really. There are wonderful people here, but their attitude towards minorities is frightening. Not everyone, of course, but enough. Pretending otherwise is to stick your head in the sand.

  • Obama is ahead through caucuses, but seems to have lost all the primaries

    Uh..Clinton has one exactly one more primary win than Obama. I have no idea what point you are trying to make above, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.


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