Ok this will be a seriously discussion about why MI/FL won't be seated as is.
if you want to flame or spin, please we have PLENTY of other diaries for you to do it in, have at it! just not here.
ok before we can begin talking about a solution we have to understand the problem.
The DNC is the leadership of the Democratic party, they make the rules, if you want to be in this party you follow them. (just like your state, you want to live there you follow their rules, you don't like it then you leave the state.)
They make the rules, and in a effort to help some states and demographics have a say in the primary they chose 4 states that represented different parts of the electorate (thats why the 4 states were so different) and said THESE 4 go first, everyone else has to wait till Feb. 5th.
Everyone agreed but 2 states, they wanted to be more important and have weight so they moved up their votes, the DNC told them they wouldn't sanction the votes, Florida and Michigan wanted to cal the bluffs, and their votes were not Sanctioned. THUS when it comes to the DNC officially those votes never happened, MI and FL have yet to hold a sanctioned primary. now why can't we all just pretend that the vote was sanction and seat them?
1) legal issues, but we aren't dealing with that one,
2) the DNC as a governing body MUST maintain their legitimacy as a governing body, if they make a rule and a state violates it, and they do nothing, then in 2012 the DNC has told EVERY state do what you want, we will do nothing. The DNC absolutely 100% will never do this, they will not allow their authority to be undermined in that way, they would lose all power to run the democratic party.
so what do we do?
here is the problem
you can complain all you want but as you learned in 2000, the popular vote does NOT decide the nominee (or the president) sure it may need to be changed (I disagree I think we still need the electoral college), but you don't get to change it in the middle of the primary, regardless of what you want to believe the National Campaigns agreed to how the primary would work, Hillary is bound by the rules she signed to when she entered the race.
DELEGATES WILL DECIDE THE NOMINEE. plain and simply, you want to argue that is wrong and we should decide them another way, go ahead just not here. here we are facing reality, (and face it the supers on more then once occasion have more then hinted the Delegate leader will be the nominee)
visit this site here: http://demconwatch.blogspot.com/2008/03/
it lays out all the different delegate counts if you count FL and MI, in different scenarios
you will notice that in ONLY 1 scenario, (Sitting both states as is, and NOT giving Obama the MI uncommitted) will Hillary TIE Obama in delegates
in every other scenario she will trail, and by most peoples estimates they are expected to split the remaining states and delegates, thus in only 1 of 6 possible situations do we leave the primaries with Hillary TIED with Obama.
the least likely of the scenarios is the one that Hillary wants the most. and it won't happen.
They both know it, and thus they both don't REALLY care right now about resolving the situation, Hillary wanted revotes, she won't get them so now the MI/FL situation are only used for talking points,
as Dean as noted:
Dean also said the Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated at the convention. But he won't force a resolution because he said there's nothing the Obama and Clinton campaigns can support at this point.
"You bring both sides together and say, `Don't you think it's time that the two campaigns made a deal on how we're going to do this?'" Dean said. "Let me just say that the campaigns believe that kind of a deal is premature right now."
Focus on how he says BOTH campaigns believe its premature,
Hillary knows options 1-5 do nothing for her, they leave her behind in delegates, and that doesn't help her win.
Florida and Michigan WILL be seated, just not in a way that will effect the race to give Hillary the nomination.
and it has nothing to do with Hillary, its the DNC and its relationship with states, it has a vested interest NOW to show the state parties that they are in charge and in the future if you are told not to do something, don't do it because they will follow through with their punishment.
here is some delegate math for the rest of the season using realistic numbers, (sorry but saying Hillary will win PA by 60-65% of the vote is not realistic and goes against EVERYTHING we have seen, all polls, and all trending data)
I gave Hillary significant victories in PA (+8), KY (+8), WV (+12), and PR (+10).
I gave Obama significant victories in NC (+12), OR (+8), SD (+15), MT (+15).
I also counted IN and Guam as virtual ties. I did not include FL and MI. The result, according to Slate's delegate counter, would leave Obama with 1694 pledged delegates and Clinton with 1540.
you can do it yourself here: http://www.slate.com/id/2185278/
if you do please post your numbers, because once again giving Hillary 65% in PA, but saying they tie in NC is unrealistic and makes your calculations based on a faulty premise and not grounded in reality. I mean sure if Hillary won 100% in all 10 states she would win, but its not likely just like Hillary winning all 10 states by 60% is not likely, (Hillary winning even 1 state by 60% would be a tough argument to make)
I am not saying it is fair what is happening to Michigan or Florida, thats not my business to say, if those residents don't like it they should talk to their leaders who created this situation and vote them out of office. but the DNC has more then just 2 states to worry about, and sure it may be politically expedient for the 2008 elections to just seat them.
but in the long run the DNC and its relationship to state democratic parties, and the party has a whole is greatly compromised and damaged if the states are seated as is. it won't happen.
Option 6 will never happen. the question is will be be Options 1-5 or is there another option available.
sadly none of them will help Hillary in the way she wants so she is not focusing on it. that is why now Obama is calling for a way to seat the delegates and Hillary not so much. they both know that getting them seated through a compromise only helps Obama because
1) they will NEVER be seated in a way that greatly affects the delegate count
2) Hillary has no realistic way to get the pledged delegate lead.
The pledged Delegate leader will be the nominee (you wanna debate this make a diary and we can)