John Edwards "Doubts&quot Bush's Claim of No Torture

John Edwards responded to Bush's claim that his administration has not tortured terrorism suspects, despite the revelation of secret Justice Department memos authorizing the CIA's harshest interrogation techniques including waterboarding and the use of frigid temperatures:

Pardon me, but I have my doubts that George Bush is finally being straight with us.

First, some background, followed by John Edwards' full statement.  Yesterday, two secret Justice Department legal opinions were disclosed in The New York Times

The New York Times reported on Thursday that the CIA was again holding prisoners at "black sites" overseas, and that the Justice Department under then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales had issued a secret opinion in 2005 that endorsed the harshest interrogation techniques ever used by the CIA.

"The ongoing existence of the CIA program is extremely troubling," especially in light of the reported Justice Department opinion, said Elisa Massimino, Washington director of the advocacy group Human Rights First.


Citing unnamed officials, the Times said the 2005 memo for the first time explicitly authorized painful physical and psychological tactics including head-slapping, simulated drowning and frigid temperatures. n/politics-security-interrogations.html? _r=1&oref=slogin

A second Justice opinion was issued later in 2005, just as Congress was working on an anti-torture bill. That opinion declared that none of the CIA's interrogation practices would violate the rules in the legislation banning "cruel, inhuman and degrading" treatment of detainees, The Times said, citing interviews with unnamed current and former officials.

Today, Bush proclaimed that Ameirca does not torture people:

Bush was referring to a report on two secret memos in 2005 that authorized extreme interrogation tactics against terror suspects. "This government does not torture people," the president said.

Here is video of the White House briefing today:

In diplomatic language, John Edwards said "bullshit" to Bush's lie.

"George Bush has a long record of trampling on the Constitution and failing to be straight with the American people.  Yesterday we learned that -- even after the Justice Department abandoned its defense of torture -- it continued to write memos endorsing the harshest interrogation techniques ever used by the CIA.  Today, the president asserted that `we don't torture.'  Pardon me, but I have my doubts that George Bush is finally being straight with us.

"As president, I will work to restore America's moral authority in the world by upholding the rule of law and safeguarding our civil liberties.  I reject the Bush Administration's twisted logic justifying torture, release the legal opinions justifying it, and end the abuse of classification and legal privilege to hide un-American legal judgments.  Saying no to torture will protect our troops and our values by upholding the Geneva Conventions anywhere American security forces, military or civilian, are engaged." es/20071005-torture-memos/

I also have my doubts.  America should not torture.  We are not Nazis.  It is simple right and wrong.

Here is a short video from a speech in August 2007 where John Edwards clearly says, "no more torture" It is amazing an American candidate for president even has to say this. What has happened to America?

Tags: George Bush, John Edwards, torture (all tags)



Torture is UnAmerican.

Bush lies, but worse, he drags our flag into the mud and blood of torure.  

by TomP 2007-10-05 02:38PM | 0 recs
Good for John

Really sad that this needs to be said, but at least he is saying it.

by sirius 2007-10-05 02:46PM | 0 recs
this guy

He should roll out his sick wife to attack, its much more effective...

by areyouready 2007-10-05 02:47PM | 0 recs
You disgust me.

I think you have cost Clinton many votes here.  Hillary is 44 runs you, I am sure.  The Clinton supporters here should reject you, and the many people who inhabit your user names.  Their failure to do so implicates them in your acts.  

by TomP 2007-10-05 02:58PM | 0 recs
Re: this guy

You're defending George Bush now?  Fucking amazing you still post here.

by Steve M 2007-10-05 05:26PM | 0 recs
Re: this guy

Are there really no moderation standards on this website? How many times must this user be troll-rated to initiate a ban? He offers nothing to this community but copied & pasted poll numbers and the most repugnant of abuse.

by Junior Bug 2007-10-05 07:51PM | 0 recs
Re: this guy

I've defended you before, but even if this gets me troll rated, so be it.

Fuck you.

by Rooktoven 2007-10-06 05:36AM | 0 recs
Secrecy & Corruption of Repub Admin

Corruption and Secrecy runs rampid in the Bush Administration.

Today's WH press conference was frightening!

More evasiveness

Watch it here: TU

by NCDemAmy 2007-10-05 02:48PM | 0 recs

I think all Democrats doubt Bush when he says we don't conduct any acts of torture.

by RJEvans 2007-10-05 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Doubt

Do they?

Have they spoken out about it?

Hillary trusted Bush on Iraq, she has said so and she has voted for the Lieberman-Kyl Resolution giving Bush power that he should not have. Apparently, she trusts him, at least to some degree.

by NCDemAmy 2007-10-05 03:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Doubt

What the hell is your problem?

by RJEvans 2007-10-05 03:35PM | 0 recs
That was a rude comment.

If you cannot debate, why come here?  Don't be rude to commenters in my diary.  It's like shitting in my living room.  Clean up after yourself.

by TomP 2007-10-05 03:51PM | 0 recs
Re: That was a rude comment.

You should tell your friend there. Here I am saying something in general support of your candidate and she see fit to attack my candidate, Clinton, in a diary dedicated to John Edwards.

by RJEvans 2007-10-05 03:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Doubt

By the way, I should say this. Edwards too trusted Bush on Iraq and proved it when he co-sponsored the Iraq resolution. About 75% of the people trusted Bush back in 2003. Plus, the Kyl Amendment (it is not a resolution) gives Bush absolutely no power. I have read the entire thing, and there is no provision given to the President with the Amendment. It does not even have any legal power.

by RJEvans 2007-10-05 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Doubt

have some mojo for knowing what the amendment actually says.

by MollieBradford 2007-10-05 04:06PM | 0 recs
Re: John Edwards "Doubts"

I don't know.  How can someone talk about Jesus all the time and say he is so  religious and yet approve torture?  That doesn't make sense to me at all.  

by reasonwarrior 2007-10-05 04:20PM | 0 recs
John Edwards Doubts Bush

Excellent diary. I agree with John Edwards. Bush is a serial liar. A shame the other candidates are saying the same thing. But then again, they aren't real leaders.

by DoIT 2007-10-06 03:31AM | 0 recs


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