Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

Young Barack fans suspended

April 24, 2008

SCRANTON, Pa. -- Two high school seniors are paying a high price for their interest in politics.

Colin Saltry and Joey Daniel say they skipped gym class on Monday to rush over to a diner where Sen. Barack Obama's motorcade pulled in.

The two met Obama, and they say he even signed excuse slips for them to show their teachers.

That didn't work. Saltry and Daniel got one-day suspensions for leaving school grounds. AP

Frankly I think this is harsh and I don't think these kids should have been suspended.  But rules are rules. Did Barry really thik he had the authority to sign these kids permission slips?,CST-NWS-

Tags: Election 2008, obama (all tags)




He signed their permission slips?  Thats rich- maybe he thinks he is president and can do what he wants ;)

by linc 2008-04-24 12:06PM | 0 recs
So you're saying you don't want his autograph.

My kids wanted his autograph. I had him sign a shirt at an event.

by Bob Johnson 2008-04-24 12:26PM | 0 recs
It's all about

taking something that's actually awesome, like kids being so excited about politics and a Democratic candidate that they cut class, and making it into something as nasty and petty as possible.

And people wonder that Americans are sick and tired of politics as the game is played right now. This diary crystallizes why.

by MBNYC 2008-04-24 12:46PM | 0 recs
Lighten up

no its not.  Its about a couple of kids doing silly things making silly excuses.  Its great that they skipped.  If you didn't notice, TinPA is making a point- not all rules are just or right or need to be followed to the t.

by linc 2008-04-24 12:51PM | 0 recs

This is Teresa, after all, who jumps at any opportunity to smear Obama.

by MBNYC 2008-04-24 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Lighten up

The kids accepted their punishment and said they'd do it again.

I agree rules is rules.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-24 01:48PM | 0 recs
once again your bitterness
and love of fallacy comes to the fore...after all you're a BMOC(LOL what a joke that is ;p) at dkos so it's A-OK for you to toss accusations and insults at anyone.
by zerosumgame 2008-04-24 03:52PM | 0 recs
tips for not breaking

arbitrary and unjust rules.  After all who wants kids who are interested in current events and politics?  Schools should just teach kids to follow rules blindly.

by TeresaInPa 2008-04-24 12:06PM | 0 recs
tipped and rec'd

we need some humor.  Funniest thing I have read in a  few days!  (sorry for stealing your tip spot!)

by linc 2008-04-24 12:08PM | 0 recs
When you call him "Barry"... they do at Red State and LGF, I wonder if I can use the terms they use for Senator Clinton.

What sez you?

by Lieber 2008-04-24 12:08PM | 0 recs
You can't call him "Barry"...

...You can't refer to him by his full and legal name, Barack Hussein Obama.

What exactly can you refer to the junior Senator from Illinois as?

by Andre Walker 2008-04-24 12:19PM | 0 recs
I WANT to refer to her as Senator Clinton...

...and I WANT other Democrats to refer to him as Barack or Barack Obama or Senator Obama, but when other Democrats start referring to him as "Barry" it makes me question both their motives and their reaction were terms equally as petty an arbitrary used about they candidate support.

by Lieber 2008-04-24 12:22PM | 0 recs
Re: You can't call him "Barry"...

Senator Obama
Barack Obama

work no?

also still no link? are you really posting a 1-2 week old story just so you all can bash Obama?

wow people.

by TruthMatters 2008-04-24 12:23PM | 0 recs
Re: You can't call him "Barry"...

p.s. the 2nd part of my comment wasn't at you.

it was at her, but its ok, its just sad that we are posting an old news story so HRC supporters can bash him for something.

if an Obama supporter did this, everyone would rightly say something.

here the diarist actually put today's date probably to make everyone think it was recent.

will any HRC supporters call her on it? or is this now a new acceptable practice here?

by TruthMatters 2008-04-24 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: You can't call him "Barry"...

Just like Hillary who is posting SD's who have endorsed months ago.....

by hootie4170 2008-04-24 12:25PM | 0 recs
its all over the place today, BUT... a very positive manner and with the two kids smiling and holding out there Obama autographs.

You can go here: tent/article/2008/04/23/AR2008042303679. html

by Lieber 2008-04-24 12:25PM | 0 recs
Re: its all over the place today, BUT...

yeah wow I just saw that, they JUST picked up on this?

I am shocked, he left PA on tuesday and now the papers are running with this?

must be a REALLY slow news day.

by TruthMatters 2008-04-24 12:28PM | 0 recs
and you still miss the point
If BHO was so 'pro-rules' as he pretends to be concerning FLA and MI (despite his own violations in FLA that according to the rules means he gave up any rights to ANY FLA delegates) then he should have called their school and reported them instead of trying to pretend he had some capacity to excuse their unlawful absence.
by zerosumgame 2008-04-24 04:00PM | 0 recs
Re: You can't call him "Barry"...

As he is named after his father wouldn't his full legal name be Barack Hussein Obama, Jr?

by Obama Independent 2008-04-24 12:41PM | 0 recs
Re: You can't call him "Barry"...

President Obama after November.

by UrbanRedneck 2008-04-24 01:47PM | 0 recs
it is his name

that's what his friends and family call him.  Hillary's friends and family call her Hillary and you are welcome to do the same.

by TeresaInPa 2008-04-24 12:31PM | 0 recs
Re: it is his name

You aren't his friends and family.  Try to exhibit some manners and adult behaviour.

by map 2008-04-24 12:35PM | 0 recs
Its actually NOT his name...

...his name is Barack and the only people who currently call him Barry are bloggers at right wing sites who are trying to mock him. Concurrently, when they mock Senator Clinton they tend to use a variety of names as well as bringing up people like Vince Foster.

So, let's all do ourselves the favor... all being Democrats... of just using the candidates name as it appears on their Senate desk or on a ballot.

by Lieber 2008-04-24 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: it is his name

I prefer to call them "Hussein" and "Rodham".  Same number of syllables, easy to remember,...

by username2 2008-04-24 01:04PM | 0 recs
And while I realize that's a joke...

...though not really one with an operable punch-line, lets again note WHY and TO WHAT END you make that joke.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt about being a Democrat and again just suggest you go with Barack Obama or Senator Obama in the possibility that he is the eventual nominee of our party.

by Lieber 2008-04-24 02:04PM | 0 recs
Re: And while I realize that's a joke...

It helps to imagine me saying it with a bit of a sneer.

I'm actually a slightly reluctant Obama supporter, and my goal was just to emphasize the diarist's childishness in using "Barry."

by username2 2008-04-24 02:53PM | 0 recs
Hard to tell the wheat from the chaff...

...round here.

Maybe I should just make a ham sandwich and call it a day.

by Lieber 2008-04-24 04:29PM | 0 recs
If you can use

a nickname Senator Obama hasn't had since High School, then we can call Senator Clinton frigidaire again, right?

by McNasty 2008-04-24 01:10PM | 0 recs
Re: When you call him "Barry"...

You sayin' she ain't keepin' it real 'bout Barry's roolz?  Don make me git up in yo grill, biatch!

by username2 2008-04-24 01:03PM | 0 recs
Re: When you call him "Barry"...

This was meant in jest, given the original poster's (semi-racist) use of "roolz," but apparently that was lost somewhere along the way...

by username2 2008-04-24 01:58PM | 0 recs
Re: When you call him "Barry"...

No prob -- it's hard to convey tone of voice online...

by username2 2008-04-24 02:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

why does this have todays date on it?

this story is like a week old.

can you link the source please?

are you seriously posting an old story just so you guys have a reason to attack Obama?


by TruthMatters 2008-04-24 12:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz
a) there is a link b) because this is when it was published? gosh I bet you have a CT on how HRC delayed it being published just to make, er, to prove, uh well whatever, she is just an eeeeee-vil female to you anyway...
by zerosumgame 2008-04-24 03:56PM | 0 recs
By all means

Let's punish the kids for being interested in politics. God forbid they experience history at the expense of an hour of class.

This is where the dialogue has sunk?

By the by, if you think that the rules are the rules, then I don't expect to hear any more MI and FL talk. Rules is rules, after all.

by bookish 2008-04-24 12:14PM | 0 recs
Barry sez, rule are rules

I am just trying to be a good democrat.

by TeresaInPa 2008-04-24 12:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Barry sez, rule are rules

And you believe that he was trying to give them permission to violate rules (which he would have no knowledge of) rather than giving them an autograph or just messing around?

by heresjohnny 2008-04-24 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Barry sez, rule are rules

Yes, because he hates America not just in big ways, but in small ways like this as well.

by username2 2008-04-24 01:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Barry sez, rule are rules

All black people do. That's why we're all in jail.

by heresjohnny 2008-04-24 02:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Barry sez, rule are rules

It strikes me that if Barack had NOT signed the slips, we would be hearing a litany of complaints about how he doesn't care about young Americans getting excited about their government process. Or perhaps Barack is out of touch with his youth base if he can't even deign to sign these kids' obvious request for an autograph. Or maybe Barack has committed a major elitist gaffe by snubbing the children of hard working rural families because he is too high and mighty to sign his name for them.

Man, the mental gymnastics required to make these leaps of intellect are not for amateurs...

by liquidbread11 2008-04-24 01:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

A suspension's a bit harsh.  Clearly the principal has his/her priorities out of whack.  The entire school should be taking field trips to see the candidates campaign.  I would maybe give a detention or two.

by rfahey22 2008-04-24 12:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

I thought this was going to be a diary where a Hillary supporter was finally honest about FL and MI.  How disappointing.

by map 2008-04-24 12:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

I'll help. In this clip, you can see Clinton's clear position. Uh, positions.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-24 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

Diary discipline around here is bad.  If you blockquote an article, link to it so the reader can read the entire article.  Is that so hard?  

by Blue Neponset 2008-04-24 12:22PM | 0 recs
Here is a link


by Blue Neponset 2008-04-24 12:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Here is a link

really thats yesterdays story?

but he was in Indiana yesterday, this story is like a week old.

anyone remember when Obama was in scranton? I know I read this on Huffington post before today but now I can't remember when.

by TruthMatters 2008-04-24 12:27PM | 0 recs
He's doomed.

He had absolutely no right to encourage the youth of America to skip school! He is anti-education!

by Bob Johnson 2008-04-24 12:25PM | 0 recs
he may be anti-education

but he sure is pro-rules.

by TeresaInPa 2008-04-24 12:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

That's it...this is the one...this proves unequivocally that he is.....Unelectable.....

by hootie4170 2008-04-24 12:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

PermissionSlipGate will be his undoing!

by Obama Independent 2008-04-24 12:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

Dear God yes, with LapelPinGate, HandOverTheHeartGate, Fingergate, BrushingOffHisShouldersLikeJay-ZGate, and Somefuckingprofessorwhoisaneighbororsome suchshitgate,


by rhetoricus 2008-04-24 01:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

I like how she spelled rules one way and then when describing them per Obama she added the ethnic tone of Roolz....

by hootie4170 2008-04-24 12:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

heh. That's because Obama is hip-hop. When he's in the White House he's going to hire Flavor Flav as his spokesperson.

by heresjohnny 2008-04-24 12:36PM | 0 recs
I hope so

That would be awesome.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-04-24 12:37PM | 0 recs
Re: I hope so

If he painted the White House black and made the West Wing into the "South Side" and housed Chuck D, Cornel West & Tim Wise there to do domestic planning that would be funny too.

by heresjohnny 2008-04-24 12:43PM | 0 recs
Re: I hope so

Not really.  But I would pay money to see Flavor Flav hold a WH Press Conference.  

by Blue Neponset 2008-04-25 04:40AM | 0 recs
not ethnic, youthish

by TeresaInPa 2008-04-24 12:37PM | 0 recs
Re: not ethnic, youthish


by hootie4170 2008-04-24 12:41PM | 0 recs
Oh, man

That was pretty creative, getting him to sign the excuse slips.  I would have let them go.  Suspension was too harsh.  A detention maybe, but not suspension.

Well, at least they'll have a good story to tell.

by joanneleon 2008-04-24 12:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, man

Not to make too much out of it, but I wonder what the school's liability would have been should the students have gotten hurt while off the school grounds.  That might have something to do with the harsher punishment.

by MikeyB 2008-04-24 12:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, man

i'd've made them fork over the signed permission slips so I could sell them on eBay.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-24 01:57PM | 0 recs

by heresjohnny 2008-04-24 12:33PM | 0 recs
Jesus Theresa

   Kids take those slips when they leave school all the time. I know they were damn easy to get. They asked him to sign them and he did....and you're trying to spin that as Obama trying to get these kids out of trouble?

  Good grief!!

by southernman 2008-04-24 12:36PM | 0 recs
His name is "Senator Obama."

You have no class, Teresa.

by McNasty 2008-04-24 01:05PM | 0 recs
Re: His name is "Senator Obama."

She thinks she's clever. Not.

by april34fff 2008-04-24 01:35PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

Right.. like these rules

Glad you feel that way.

by rhetoricus 2008-04-24 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz

thanks for bringing this story to our attention.    i think its pretty clear that obama wants to have one set of rules for his supporters and another for everybody else, extremely radical.  that's why I just emailed this story to 600 news organizations across the globe, this could sink his chances to win the nomination.

by soros 2008-04-24 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz


seriously, this is nothing but a positive story for our next president.

I live for the emotion of our political system, so when i heard this story I nearly cried with happiness.  

Think about it, these kids were only 11 when our bastard president took over.

They really have something to hope for,  Republican stranglehold of this country is ALL they know.

Give them some credit.

by GeorgeP922 2008-04-24 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.

These two kids took the initiative and did something they were interested in and possibly even inspired to do. I don't know if anyone has noticed but there are not many opportunities in a high school kid's life to do something that makes them feel important and optimistic and proud. Obama signed their slips. How cool is that? Very. I bet these kids were even proud when they handed in their slips. And they should have been.

These dramatic responses that Obama's chances are now completely doomed because of {x} are really becoming a bit dramatic, however, coming from either candidate's side.

by Jeter 2008-04-24 02:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Rules are RULES.. not Obama Roolz
As a parent, I would be furious with anybody who signed a slip to get my child out of school. Candidate or not- the only people who can excuse a child legally from school are the parents or guardians.
Yes, it is great the kids want to see the candidate(s?) Perhaps the suspension was due in part to the slips being signed by someone other than a parent or guardian?
Some schools actually do make arrangements for students to see the candidates and events are held in schools.
The kids were wrong to try and get out of school without parental permission. As a parent, Sen Obama should know this. He should have given an autograph on something other than an excuse note for the school.
Would he want somebody else signing an excuse to miss scholl for his daughters?
by ProudMilitaryMom 2008-04-24 07:43PM | 0 recs


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