Is Bush gone yet?

The Cybersecurity Act of 2009 (PDF) gives the president the ability to "declare a cybersecurity emergency" and shut down or limit Internet traffic in any "critical" information network "in the interest of national security." The bill does not define a critical information network or a cybersecurity emergency. That definition would be left to the president.

The bill does not only add to the power of the president. It also grants the Secretary of Commerce "access to all relevant data concerning [critical] networks without regard to any provision of law, regulation, rule, or policy restricting such access." This means he or she can monitor or access any data on private or public networks without regard to privacy laws.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2009 /04/should-obama-control-internet

Are our eyes open yet?  How is this okay with the blogger boyz network?  If Bush did this (when he did similar things) people screamed in outrage.  If Secretary Clinton had allowed this, or enabled it as president the He man Hillary Haters club would have foamed at the mouth for weeks about her neo-con DLC ties.

So anyone hysterical over this? Not so far

So hit me wioth your strongest "troll!!" wannabe snark.  But in the process please deny that what I say is true.

ps, please do not tell me the President has no idea about this happening. He is the leader of the party and the congress would not attempt this without his approval.

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Re: Is Bush gone yet?

First, right now this has nada to do with Obama it's Rockefeller's and Snowe's bill not Obama's so not sure what your headline has to do with anything.

Next, not to make to fine a point of this, but introducing a bill is not even close to passing a bill. This thing has to go numerous committee meetings etc.

So while the bill as introduced concerns me, we have more than ample time to have voices heard before it becomes law if it ever does.

by jsfox 2009-04-04 09:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

And let me comment on this bit of stupidity:

please do not tell me the President has no idea about this happening. He is the leader of the party and the congress would not attempt this without his approval.

You do know that in any given year there are over 10,000 bills introduced? And you assume the President knows about all of them?

by jsfox 2009-04-04 10:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

Yep, you'd have to be dumber than a bucket of mossy rocks to think the POTUS is tracking the introduction of every bill.  It's not like there's any other important shit on the radar right now, right?

Based on the diaries and comment history, I'm not convinced Teacher1956 could teach ice to melt.

by fogiv 2009-04-04 12:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

the stupidity is yours dear.  God see what Pelosi says on the topic.  The party leaders who selected Obama are all in on this kind of thing.  The president and his advisors are not kept in the dark

by Teacher1956 2009-04-05 04:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

What does Pelosi say? Nothing in the article you sited. So if she has a comment provide it and the link. Next party leaders are not involved with every bill. With over 10,000 bills introduced during each congressional term how could they be. Now as to whether they are involved with this bill I do not know nor do you since the Mother Jones articles say squat about it. MY guess is no, or guess is yes. Next

by jsfox 2009-04-05 07:14AM | 0 recs
When are you going to mention

that this bill is being introduced by Sen Olympia Snowe and Sen. Jay Rockefeller and not President Obama, Nancy Pelosi, or whatever villianous Democrat you're targetting this week.

by DTOzone 2009-04-05 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

Isn't it a bit early to be drinking and posting?  And what "party leaders" are these, anyways?  My current list includes Nancy Pelosi, Donna Brazile, Howard Dean, George Soros, and the Elders of Zion.  Maybe Larry Summers.  Who did I miss?

by TexasDarling 2009-04-05 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

Have you ever have a brief moment of clarity in which you realize how freaking weird it is that you view every single political issue through the "How does this effect Hillary Clinton?" prism?

This bill stinks, and if Obama comes out in support of it there will be reason for outrage.  You, however, are an incredibly angry person with way too much invested in one politician.  You're taking an important issue and then detracting from it by trying to re-fight the Democratic primary.

We get it.  Obama is a horrible human being.

by thatrangeofshadesbetweenredandbluestuff 2009-04-04 09:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

Can we stop indulging these people that keep insisting their objections are because of Hillary? There's plenty of people that were upset because of Hillary Clinton's treatment, and those people have moved on.

I'm ready to say it. These leftover PUMAs are all closet racists. They all believe the "inferior black man" garbage. I'm not saying ANYONE who criticizes Obama is racist, that's insane. But the people who have consistently hated him without any real provocation... yeah. Those are not tolerant people.

by vcalzone 2009-04-04 04:27PM | 0 recs
I am starting to agree with you...

Particularly the ones that leave the Confluence and come here, they TRY to be liberal and pretend this is about fixing the party...

But, I get that same wiff of closet racism.

They will never admit it, but it IS the fact an inferior black man beat their Gal.....

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-04 05:16PM | 0 recs
Re: I am starting to agree with you...

Yeah, I have no doubt they are liberal. But there's more to it than that. Whiff is a good word for it. There's just a certain air of arrogance and dismissal and "I knew this would happen" that is just uglier than I'm used to seeing.

by vcalzone 2009-04-04 07:49PM | 0 recs
They're not all Hillary supporters

Some of them are just general deadenders who hate any Democrat who's not to the left of Kucinich. But they can at least be honest about their hatred of President Obama and those who supported him like they are on OpenLeft:

As party regulars bitterly noted, a year after Dean, all of the people on the phones were the same gray haired ladies who were always there. The kids in orange beanies were gone... and they didn't have anything to be embarrassed about!
We are so f&*ked. When the GOP catches up to us in online fund raising, what will it all have been for?

Even the BHO supporters know how bad things are. Bill Moyer's financial expert this week, an Obama supporter, was so stark and critical, his language would have been cause for banning a couple of months ago on every major liberal website.

I'll YouTube it for posterity. "I told you so," isn't near as fun as I thought it would be.


by DTOzone 2009-04-04 08:34PM | 0 recs
Whata bunch of crusty old farts.....

Like they ever talk to any Obama supporters.

Most of them live in the little echo chamber of like minded stuckers..

Dreaming of "their gal" living in a bubble of the past of what SHOULD have happened.

Sad, and pathetic, just like TeacherStuckinLastYear....

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-04 10:20PM | 0 recs
Oh I don't know OpenLefters

are dreaming of "their gal" as President unless their gal is Ralph Nader in drag.

by DTOzone 2009-04-04 11:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh I don't know OpenLefters

"I told you so" is usually the sign of a PUMA - a Naderite wouldn't say that because they're used to losing.  It reminds me of 1992 - the PUMA's  political ancestors printed up "Don't blame me, I voted for Bush" bumperstickers the moment Bill Clinton won, and with no sense of irony did the same thing this time, just swapped in Hillary's name.  I think the 1992 equivalent of Naderites - Jerry Brown voters or people who voted for Perot as a protest vote - generally became issue advocates.  NAFTA was the big one.

Besides, have you been to OpenLeft lately?  It's all Jacob Freeze and those folks.

by Jess81 2009-04-05 07:46PM | 0 recs
OpenLeft?

who really pays any attention to that place anymore?

by DTOzone 2009-04-05 11:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

yeah, tell that to my AA boyfriend.  I am such a racist....

open your eyes

by Teacher1956 2009-04-05 04:23AM | 0 recs
Well, since you're a Republican now

Go get the man a sandwitch, and clean up the kitchen?

You Conservative Republican woman should know your place....

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-05 08:58AM | 0 recs
He could do so much better

yeah...I went there

by DTOzone 2009-04-05 09:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

Some of my best friends are gay.

by Jess81 2009-04-05 07:47PM | 0 recs
Guffaw

I marched with Martin and fought in the jungle with Che....

Lol, I love the AA boyfriend almost as much as "I fought in Nam" cover these phonies try to float to bolster their bonafides.

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-06 11:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

you shouldn't out your boyfriend for being an alcoholic, there are reasons for it being anonymous.

I know you can't mean African American because that is just kinda sad you would state that.  Don't exploit him just to make a point.  We can read your posts and decide for ourselves what we think of you just fine without you bringing your personal relationships into it.

pathetic.

by selfevident 2009-04-06 07:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Is Bush gone yet?

you are barking up the wrong tree kiddo

by Teacher1956 2009-04-05 04:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Is this a test

 to see if we can be provoked into using the 'R' word?

by QTG 2009-04-04 10:20AM | 0 recs
hit me with your strongest "troll!!"

You WAY over estimate yourself.

As fars as strength of trolls here, you're about c+ on a good day. Mid to bottom mid of the pack.

Way too predicatable, no sense of irony or humor, you don't even do outrage real well?

Basically, most of your post are sad weak convulsive whines.

You don't deserve snark. You deserve our concern and pity.

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-04 11:45AM | 0 recs
Re: hit me with your strongest "troll!!"

yuip, as pathetic as I expected.  So , have anything useful to say on the topic?

by Teacher1956 2009-04-05 04:24AM | 0 recs
There is no topic....

There is no content to your droppings...

Its just whiney complaining.

by WashStateBlue 2009-04-05 09:00AM | 0 recs
i know...

i speak on behalf of myself and hillary when i say....

by canadian gal 2009-04-04 02:10PM | 0 recs
Re: i know...

Is that a true honest kid paper? If so, it is hysterical.

by redwagon 2009-04-06 11:44AM | 0 recs
And where is the part

that says President Obama is asking for this to be introduced in the Senate?

...really, I'm waiting.

by DTOzone 2009-04-04 11:15PM | 0 recs
Re: And where is the part

read again. I never said that

by Teacher1956 2009-04-05 04:25AM | 0 recs
Yes you did

Are our eyes open yet?  How is this okay with the blogger boyz network?  If Bush did this (when he did similar things) people screamed in outrage.  If Secretary Clinton had allowed this, or enabled it as president the He man Hillary Haters club would have foamed at the mouth for weeks about her neo-con DLC ties.

and if President Obama did this, there would be criticism as well...but he didn't, so your point makes no sense.

Not that I'm surprised.

by DTOzone 2009-04-05 09:02AM | 0 recs
and here

ps, please do not tell me the President has no idea about this happening. He is the leader of the party and the congress would not attempt this without his approval.

where is the link that shows that Congress is bringing this up for a vote? I don't see it.

by DTOzone 2009-04-05 09:05AM | 0 recs
Re: and here

Please especially note the quote "he is the leader of the party and the congress would not attempt this without his approval."

1) Members of congress introduce legislation, usually from a committee. Bills are introduced by one or several members of congress and are not coordinated up the food chain (full chambers, President). If they were, there wouldn't be any difference between Senate and House versions of the bill, but there almost always is and these differences get smoothed out AFTER bills pass. As further evidence, note that majority members introduce bills which get defeated, and in fact bills that most other members of the majority vote against. If they coordinated up the food chain as you suggest, nobody in the majority would be wasting time with bills that weren't going anywhere.

2) While it is true that Obama is "the leader of the party" please note in the Mother Jones article you link to that the bill is being introduced by Senators Rockefeller and Snowe, one of whom is a Republican!

by RecoveringRepublican 2009-04-06 03:07AM | 0 recs
Re: And where is the part

Uh, yes you did?

by Jess81 2009-04-05 07:49PM | 0 recs

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