Romney Makes Comparison of Clinton to Gay Pedophile

I'm a little suprised but it seems Romney compared Bill Clinton to Mark Foley.  Or at least suggested they have something in common.

Will the Clinton campaign respond or try to ignore it and hope it goes away.

Apparently  this will be on TV - Expect it to be on YouTube. 007/08/28/336429.aspx

Gov. ROMNEY: Yeah, I think it reminds us of Mark Foley and Bill Clinton. I think it reminds us of the fact that people who are elected to public office continue to disappoint, and they somehow think that if they vote the right way on issues of significance or they can speak a good game, that we'll just forgive and forget. And the truth of the matter is, the most important thing we expect from elected--an elected official is a level of dignity and character that we can point to for our kids and our grandkids, and say, `Hey, someday I hope you grow up and you're someone like that person.' And we've seen disappointment in the White House, we've seen it in the Senate, we've seen it in Congress. And frankly, it's disgusting.

KUDLOW: Governor, if there were a President Romney, and you heard this, and your staff briefed you on some of the past allegations and charges, and there seems to be something of a cover-up, a silence on this with regard to Craig, would you not call for him to resign from the Senate?

Gov. ROMNEY: If--you know, I don't know the circumstances right now of his setting, and so I really can't call--make that call without having reviewed it, Larry. I will review that, and we'll give you a call on that. I certainly felt that Bill Clinton shouldn't have stayed in office. But you know, with regards to this setting, why, we'll take a close look at it.

KUDLOW: Actually, on that Clinton point, you threw Clinton in with the Craig episode and the Mark Foley episode. Could you just expand a little bit on that for us, sir?

Gov. ROMNEY: I'm not sure I need to. I think we've all heard the story about Bill Clinton and the fact that he let us down in his personal conduct with a--with a White House intern. And that strikes me as another one of these extraordinary acts of falling short of what America would expect of elected officials, particularly one who should be held to a higher standard.

KUDLOW: Do you think the Monica Lewinksy, impeachment and so forth, she was indicted--he, Mr. Clinton, was indicted in the House, he was not convicted in the Senate, Governor, does that become an issue again in this presidential campaign?

Gov. ROMNEY: I don't think so. I think the experience of the--of mine in the political world is that the things that we've heard about in the past, we tend to forget and not bring back up. But obviously, the continued parade of sexual misconduct in Washington, DC, is something which is very disturbing to America's families. And when you're trying to raise children, and you have stories like the ones we've seen over the last several years coming out of
Washington, that's very troubling. And I expect that people should be held to a higher standard, and that is something I'd expect to see in this particular case as well as in other cases that have proceeded it.

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the clintons better hope

there aren't any more stings involving congress people.

I wonder how larry flynts search is going

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 12:45PM | 0 recs
Re: the clintons better hope

I doubt that republican scandals are going to negatively harm the Clintons.

Most of the republican scandals do not arise because fo the act they arise because of the hypocrisy

by world dictator 2007-08-28 01:09PM | 0 recs
Go after Bill Clinton?

Make my day.

I'm quite confident that William Jefferson Clinton can handle the flip-flopping Mormon with the gay-sex-in-an-airport-restroom campaign co-chair.

BTW, Clinton makes his first appearence of his national book tour on Oprah next Tuesday. I expect him to be his usual charming self and remind voters that the flip-flopping Mormon with the gay-sex-in-an-airport-restroom campaign co-chair and his Republican cronies love to practice the politics of personal destruction and hate.

by hwc 2007-08-28 12:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Go after Bill Clinton?

Stop and think.

How does a gay-bashing Republican hypocrite getting busted for soliticing gay sex in a public restroom where children may be present have anything to do with the Clintons?

I think we need a remedial class in how to be a Democrat.

Good grief.

by hwc 2007-08-28 03:52PM | 0 recs
it doesn't

but the right wing blames the clintons for everything

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 04:01PM | 0 recs
Re: it doesn't

So here's an effin' idea? Why doesn't the left wing stand up and say "we're mad as hell and we aren't going to take it anymore!"

Let the Republicans have it with both barrels.

by hwc 2007-08-28 04:36PM | 0 recs
Re: it doesn't

Well in that case, let's just nominate someone who we hope they'll like more.  That way the repubs won't yell at us and call us names. Please.  Let's stop with the hand-wringing and come out swinging, just as the Clinton's always do. Bill Clinton and/or Hillary can destroy Romney or any other rethug foolish enough to try them. Let me remind you. fU

by Denny Crane 2007-08-28 09:19PM | 0 recs

the intention of this diary is so obvious. Going after Clinton? Only the far right and far left love this dumb idea.

by areyouready 2007-08-28 12:48PM | 0 recs
the point is to preview

what the dialogue will be if Hillary is the nominee

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 12:51PM | 0 recs
Re: the point is to preview

Make my day. Nothing will push Hillary Clinton to a general electon landslide like 12 months of rehashing Lewinsky by the flip-flopping Morman with his Republican Senator arrested-for-soliciting-gay-sex-in-an-ai rport-restroom-where-little-children-may -be campaign co-chair.

by hwc 2007-08-28 12:54PM | 0 recs
Re: the point is to preview


So true hwc.

by samueldem 2007-08-28 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: preview???

Romney said it, it is news. Tar Heel reported it to a political blog. Im not sure how Bill's inappropriate sex life is a right wing smear but whatever.

by leewesley 2007-08-28 01:08PM | 0 recs

Mitt Romney said it in front of a camera..

certainly I would think this is "news"..

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 01:09PM | 0 recs
Re: thanks....

And if you hadn't have said above that you diaried this as a preview of "what will happen if Clinton is the nominee"" I'd believe you.

by world dictator 2007-08-28 01:12PM | 0 recs
You lack any honor.

There is no right wing notion you won't pimp.  Shame on you.

by bookgrl 2007-08-28 12:51PM | 0 recs
I didn't know "FirstRead MSNBC"

was right wing..

it's affiliated with Keith Olberman's network..

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 12:52PM | 0 recs
It's very funny

that the candidate that has fundraisers by Rupert Murdoch AND gave Q1 fundraising numbers to Drudge is accusing MSNBC of being right wing.

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 01:14PM | 0 recs
Re: It's very funny

The interview was on CNBC, not MSNBC.

The interviewer was Larry Kudlow.

Are you seriously going to claim that Larry Kudlow isn't right-wing?  God, I hope not.

by Steve M 2007-08-28 02:02PM | 0 recs
the blog

mentioning it was MSNBC....

which is where I saw it

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 02:11PM | 0 recs
Re: the blog

Well, I saw it on  That doesn't change the fact that it was a right-wing interview in the first place.

by Steve M 2007-08-28 02:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney Compares Clinton to Foley and Craig

If Hillary Clinton is the nominee it won't be her the repugs go after, but her husband Bill.

Oh those silly Republicans. They never learn, do they? They are like bad dogs who just won't stop peeing on the carpet.

Maybe they should check out Bill Clinton's favorable numbers. Dumbasses. It's like attacking Ronald Reagan.

by hwc 2007-08-28 12:52PM | 0 recs
high favorables among dems

not so much in the general electorate.

and yes Bubba is one of the most charming, gifted politicians of the last 40 years hands down.

his book tour will help Hillary a lot.

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 12:53PM | 0 recs
Re: high favorables among dems

From Gallup, earlier this year:

More than 6 in 10 Americans say they have a favorable opinion of former President Bill Clinton, according to a recent Gallup Poll. Clinton's favorable rating is up slightly from last summer, and is at its highest level since February 1998. His favorable rating reached historical lows in 2001 as Clinton sparked many controversies as he left office. But since that time, Clinton's favorable rating has gradually improved and is now close to his historical high, a 66% rating just prior to his inauguration in 1993.

by hwc 2007-08-28 01:03PM | 0 recs
I can't help but think

that some part of that is just anyone being compared to Bush....

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: I can't help but think

I can't help but think you have no proof for this claim except for your hopes and dreams

by world dictator 2007-08-28 01:10PM | 0 recs
Bush Senior

in retrospect seems halfway decent compared to his son. he didn't go into baghdad.

  see... point made

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 01:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Bush Senior

you can't use an unwarranted opinion to back up another unwarrated opinion. You also can't use yourself as a source to back up a point you originally made.

by world dictator 2007-08-28 04:01PM | 0 recs
Re: I can't help but think

Not that the so-called Democrats here would care, but if you want to see why Americans love Bill Clinton, watch his speech to the Harvard Class Day in June (starting about 1 hour 30 minutes into this video): uto/ClassDay2007Archive.rm

Watch for his story about chatting up Rush Limbaugh in a New York restaurant.

by hwc 2007-08-28 03:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney Makes Comparison of Clinton to Gay Pedo

The foley comparison is completely preposterous, but seriously which is worse, sex in an airport restroom  or sex in the Oval Office.....

by leewesley 2007-08-28 12:53PM | 0 recs
that's why it's VERY

amusing that the Clinton camp is silent.

this is on TV and the blogs and yet silence.

If Edwards or Obama even obliquely reference the 90s they get the full monty from Howard Wolfson.


by TarHeel 2007-08-28 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney Makes Comparison of Clinton to Gay Pedo

I don't believe that American voters, concerned with issues like Iraq and health care, want to hear much about sex in either place.

by hwc 2007-08-28 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney Makes Comparison of Clinton to Gay Pedo

I wish you were correct, but i think you SEVERLY underestimate america's love of sex scandals.

by leewesley 2007-08-28 12:56PM | 0 recs
even the GOPers are

talking about craig all day long...


if romney is the nominee I guarantee he will make PERCEIVED wholesomeness part of his campaign.

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: even the GOPers are

god i hope he's the nominee, what a dufus. Of course he will make wholesomeness part of it, but by all accounts he is kinda wholesome isn't he? (in the context of the republican primary anyway)

by leewesley 2007-08-28 01:03PM | 0 recs
Re: even the GOPers are

Ask the flip-flopping Mormon with a Republican Senator-arrested-for-soliticiting-gay-se x-in-an-airport-restroom-where-little-ch ildren-may-be campaign co-chair about his dog strapped to the roof of the family car. That's wholesome.

by hwc 2007-08-28 01:06PM | 0 recs
Re: even the GOPers are

Saying that Romney is responsible for his campaign co-chair soliciting sex is like saying Hillary is responsible for Bill's Oval Sex. My point is just that Romney can effectively be wholesome in the general, thats all.

by leewesley 2007-08-28 01:10PM | 0 recs


Another hate-inspired diary about the woman who will be our next President.

Some folks have no f*cking shame.

by samueldem 2007-08-28 12:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney

how is the diary hate inspired? Its reporting a republican presidential candidates attacks on our frontrunner. Isnt that what goes on here?

by leewesley 2007-08-28 01:04PM | 0 recs
Sorry HUAC.

You're not baiting me again.

Oh and by the way, having an intern suck your cock in the Oval Office is a bad thing, it doesn't matter who agrees with me.

by leewesley 2007-08-28 01:13PM | 0 recs
that's a "smear"

any pretending that something unwholesome goes on in politics is a "smear"

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 01:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney

It is concern trolling.  The idea here is:

"Look what the bad right wingers have to say about Clinton.  We simply can't afford her to be our candidate because then we will get the right-wingers bashing her with Bill's sex stuff."

I am surprised you are not getting the intent of this diary.  You seem intelligent.

It is similar to someone saying:  "We can't afford a black candidate. Let's not vote for him for the nomination, please."


"Because many right-wingers don't like blacks, so they would go after them.  We can't have that."

There is also history to consider, as you well know.  Tarheel constantly uses quotes from people like Rove, Limbaugh, right-wing rags, right-wing pundits, to make his Hillary-bash posts.   I don't really care, he can do as he pleases.  But let's not pretend it is not so.  

by georgep 2007-08-28 01:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney

Ok, let me say this then, it may be Tar Heel's intent to change the masses' opinion of a certain candidate with this diary, I dont know, I havent talked to him/her. Regardless, the diary is mostly just an extended TV interview with romney where he (not Tar Heel) makes these arguments. I just don't see why this is so trollish, after all isnt every damn diary these days an endorsement or hit diary on a certain candidate? The reality is that there is a possibility that Hillary will be hit with sex scandal attacks in the General (and a guarantee that there will be attacks based on Bill's presidency). This is the first time that a GOP candidate has brought up Oval Sex this campaign (to my knowledge), its news worthy and diary worthy. How is posting a diary that implies (but never outright states mind you) what Hillary might face in the GE different than a diary describing how well she is doing in PA and FL?

Of course there may be alterior motives, but on a political blog in an election year are you really willing to start drawing lines about trollish behavior that come from assumptions about a diarists intent instead of the text of the diary?

by leewesley 2007-08-28 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney

I said "concern trolling," which I don't really mean to come out as being "trollish."  A concern troll is someone who fakes concern for something coming from the right to make his own attack points from the left.  It is not a big thing, as I stated.   It is just his usual mojo.  To my knowledge Tarheel is the only blogger who uses right-wingers' comments with constancy to make his point.  It does indeed constitute a damaging track and does the right-wing's bidding for them (i.e. if I constantly talked about Edwards' haircuts, brought right-wingers' articles bashing Edwards for hypocrisy as something to fear, etc.)  

by georgep 2007-08-28 02:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney

I agree with you that it's not trolling to post what Romney said. It's actually a bit interesting how he (Romney) grasps for straws comparing consensual sex between two adults with sex solicited of a minor by an adult, thereby skirting a timely GOP issue: creepy old men begging for gay sex in public bathrooms.

The only thing I was semi-annoyed by but I ignored (because it was silly) was Tarheel's rhetorical question: will the campaign respond or hope it goes away? It certainly implies that there's some harm done to Hillary, which I'm personally at a loss to see. I think BlueDiamond is absolutely correct that this was Romney's pandering moment to the Christan conservatives who don't like him because he believes in the wrong holy book.

by bowiegeek 2007-08-28 10:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney

Must have hit a nerve. The Clinton hit squad is out tonight in full force.

by BDM 2007-08-28 03:36PM | 0 recs
Re: of course it hits a nerve

no argument that can't be squashed with a "naderite" retort eh?

by leewesley 2007-08-28 08:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney

I actually hope that Romney is stupid enough to try this in the general election.  He;ll get buried in short order.

But hit a nerve?  Not so much. We just defend our candidate vigorously.  No smear will go unanswered.

by Denny Crane 2007-08-28 09:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney Makes Comparison

Bill admits to letting the people down and disappointing them- I don't think this is a big deal.

by reasonwarrior 2007-08-28 01:14PM | 0 recs
I wonder why the Clintons

are more upset of the lincoln bedroom by both Obama and Edwards than a republican presidential candidate comparing them to a criminal.

by TarHeel 2007-08-28 01:17PM | 0 recs
Re: I wonder why the Clintons

What "criminal" are you talking about?  Are you under the impression that Mark Foley was charged with a crime?

Bill Clinton and Mark Foley were both sex scandals.  Really not that big a stretch to put them both in the same sentence!

Republicans will, indeed, bring up Bill's sex scandals if Hillary is the nominee.  Oh well!  Bill Clinton is an extraordinary asset, on balance, and I think people are going to be more annoyed with the Republicans for trying to get mileage out of old news than anything.

by Steve M 2007-08-28 02:06PM | 0 recs
Re: I wonder why the Clintons

That's what I was thinking- I mean, so what?  I do think there is a bit of "Look, this is how Hillary will drag us down" that is being played here by people as just another way to get another bash in.  I don't think ANYONE of voting age doesn't know about the Bill Clinton episode- this will not change anyone's minds about him or Hillary who weren't already against them.  Bill is amazingly popular- people have moved on.

by reasonwarrior 2007-08-28 06:29PM | 0 recs
Re: I wonder why the Clintons

Bill Clinton and Mark Foley were both sex scandals.  Really not that big a stretch to put them both in the same sentence!

There's a big difference between Clinton and Foley.  Bill Clinton had extra-marital sex with another consenting adult.  Mark Foley is a pedophile adult who was trying to have sex with minors.  That's illegal.

Both scandals? Yes.  But they are worlds apart.  One is far more heinous than the other, and they don't belong on the same page, let alone in the same sentence.

by Denny Crane 2007-08-29 04:45AM | 0 recs
Who Cares ?

Romney is trying to appeal to the Republican Evangelical Christians who see anything Sexual that's not with a wedded souse as Sexual Sins. Seculars are the ones who draw distinctions , but Christians do not. If it's a Sex Act that's not with your wife, it's a Sexual Sin and you are a Sexual Deviant.

Whether it's Bill Clinton getting Oral Sex from every slut in a blue dress or Mark Foley trying to solicit little boys, it's all Sexual Deviancy and if it's not with your spouse, it's all viewed the same way. Romney is just trying to tap into some of that Republican Evangelical support.

I know. I was the daughter of a hard care Evangelical Preacher.

by BlueDiamond 2007-08-28 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Why should the GOP even worry about throwing m

If you find primary contests too stressful, I'm sure no one would mind if you sat out until the general.

by Junior Bug 2007-08-28 01:41PM | 0 recs
So a conceited Republican makes a comment about

Clinton in order to duck commenting about his hypocritical bathroom-cruising closeted campaign co-chair and we're supposed to be worried?

by bowiegeek 2007-08-28 03:10PM | 0 recs

Even this diary is beneath you Tarheel. However, you never seem to amaze me.

by lonnette33 2007-08-28 04:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Romney Makes Comparison of Clinton to Gay Pedo

mark foley wasnt in an airport - he was acting inappropriately with house boys-

airport is yet another nut repug

by sepulvedaj3 2007-08-28 05:36PM | 0 recs


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