Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

Obama is really bungling the Wes Clark comments.

Clark's comments honored McSAME's service but said that he never commanded a squadron in combat and said that being shot down and captured is not qualification to be president.

there was no rage or no questioning McSAME's service.

All Clark did was raise a debatable point, whether service alone would make someone a good president.  As recently as 2004 the GOP didn't seem to think so did they.

Why is Obama making such a silly mistake. As ceding all ground on commander in chief to McSAME.

McSAME even has a former swift boat member now beating up on Obama.

Obama is getting the same old bob shrum/john kerry advice that dems always get.

Republicans never cede an inch on anything.

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35 Comments

Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark

Yes, I've seen about 100 statements today on MyDD to the same effect, as well as a dozen diaries.

by rfahey22 2008-06-30 10:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark

it's ridiculous to cede the entire reason for mcSame's candidacy in June..

by TarHeel 2008-06-30 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark

ah for the good old days of a month ago when HRC was called a traitor, whore, her daughters pimp and many worse things for saying about what BHO is saying now about Mclmae...

by trytobereal 2008-06-30 10:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark

Pssssssssst, trytobereal the primaries are OVER. Trying to bring up crap just make you look like a troll trying to sow the seeds of discord.

by venician 2008-06-30 12:16PM | 0 recs
The primaries may well be .....

over, but folks can point out hypocrisy in action when it so easily shows.

by emsprater 2008-06-30 01:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark

trytobereal is an aliveandkickin sockpuppet.

That's why I h'rated his/her troll ass.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 02:51PM | 0 recs
And each and every one ....

of those comments and diaries are relevant.

Clark made a valid point, in a non denigrating way about McCain's service not being 'the' qualifier for POTUS.  Truth.

Obama decided to portray that as unjustified.

This is the GE, and WE has to play to win.

It's not the primary, where 'we' would win with either candidate.  Yet in the primary, when some such statement that could be construed as derrogatory towards his opponent was made on his behalf, he did ...... nothing.

Why the change in strategy now? Simply the FIRST opportunity to publicly kick a 4 star General with close ties to the Clintons uder the bus?

Obama should have done nothing, said nothing, kept his mouth shut about Clark's very accurate statement .

by emsprater 2008-06-30 10:48AM | 0 recs
Obama is saying he

agrees with McSAME that being captured makes him more qualified to be president..

unbelievable considering  Bush had a whisper campaign that mccain went batty while he was in prison and therefore unfit to be president.

by TarHeel 2008-06-30 10:54AM | 0 recs
Nope

because he said "shot down and captured" when everyone knows that the admirable aspect of McCain's service is staying in a POW camp even when offered the opportunity to lead.

Clark's statement is the kind of thing that makes the netroots gleeful and everyone else cringe.

It's debatable whether it's useful to put this kind of thing out there but it's not something Obama can be associated with.

by JJE 2008-06-30 11:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Nope

ON the contrary, there have been many military men who were 'shot down and captured', and as Clark so truthfully pointed out, that alone does not make them qualified for becoming CIC.

Clark did not denigrate McCain's military creds, he just illustrated that as they stand , they are not 'all that'.

by emsprater 2008-06-30 01:41PM | 0 recs
McCain did more than just get shot down

and captured.  To sum up his military service that way (even though Clark was led there by the questioner) diminishes it.  That's what people are reacting to and that's what the naive folks don't understand.

by JJE 2008-07-01 05:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

If Obama won't, we will:

Get General Clark's Back:

http://ga3.org:80/campaign/petitionclark

by TxKat 2008-06-30 10:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

Holy crap! Clark said something? Obama said something about what Clark said?

Why hasn't anyone diaried this before now!?!?!?!?!

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-30 10:38AM | 0 recs
This is a comment, not a diary.

And there are a half dozen diaries already discussing it.

Pay attention.

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-30 10:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

Obama's whole strategy is going to be about playing nice and polite. And then work towards a 30% increase in AA turnout. That will bring him victory he believes.

That is what he is going to do.

A 4 star General? Is a non-entity for him.

by Makey 2008-06-30 10:39AM | 0 recs
I'm rapidly losing interest

in Obama's campaign shifts.

after all the crap the gop said about mcsame in 2000 and kerry in 2004, obama is so timid he's backing away from a valid point, that being in the military in itself may not make one the  best president.

by TarHeel 2008-06-30 10:42AM | 0 recs
Re: I'm rapidly losing interest

Obama is a genius who is staying with his game plan, but who is not wedded to it.  Kerry was not a good politician.  Kerry was stuborn, and would not change course when needed.  He did not change when he had too.  Obama will do what it takes to win, and that is something the dems have not had in a long time.

by Spanky 2008-06-30 10:51AM | 0 recs
Re: I'm rapidly losing interest

Agreed.

What also is very interesting is, I think Obama is now staying on a very interesting path, he is NOT attacking McCain personally, just keeping the drumbeat on issues?

I am just amused as hell as the outrage of the PUMA's over FISA, cause we all know darn well Sentator Clinton would have done the same thing were she the nominee?

The time to revisit FISA is when you are sitting in 1600 Penn Avenue, and you can do FISA, GITMO, Torture and Habeaus ALL in one master stroke?

by WashStateBlue 2008-06-30 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: I'm rapidly losing interest

When Obama gets his ass kicked by the old geezer, you can bitch and moan all you want, but the court will shift to the right, thanks to Obama's incompetence.  

by bsavage 2008-06-30 10:59AM | 0 recs
Re: I'm rapidly losing interest

When Obama wins it will be because the country smells too much like a stinking dung heap for the populace to ignore.  In Kerry's case, the populace was cowed buy fear enough to ignore the stench.

It ain't because he's a genius.  Pretty much any democrat other than Al Sharpton or Kucinich could win this time around.

by Rooktoven 2008-06-30 11:58AM | 0 recs
I think that Wes Clark went too far

He has said this before but I just don't think that it was right.

by puma 2008-06-30 10:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

General Clark obviously did not get the campaign's message which is that talking about McBushes war record is not the place to go. Obama wants to run his campiagn in a positive way, not by smearing McBushes patriotism.  Not the way to go.  Obama wants to take that out of contention.  Clark is boring anyway, and he is not that great of a talker.  He was never on my shortlist for VP EVER.  Obama needs Webb who can go out there and talk about vietnam, the GI bill, and also Iraq with the best of them.  Webb will praise McBush and McBush can never smear Webb's patriotism.  

by Spanky 2008-06-30 10:48AM | 0 recs
What would Alegre do?

Hey, can't all you members of the MyFeignedDailyOutrage contingent just exchange e-mails and do one glorious UberDiary on your OutRage De Jour?

Then, you can all get on, rec it immediately to the rec list, and comment your little hearts out on it?

Come on, this used to work so well for Alegre,  you folks just haven't filled the slack from those big shoes being gone?

Coordination is the key!

Concentrated feigned outrage is way more effective then diluting it over multiple diaries.

by WashStateBlue 2008-06-30 10:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

Slowly you people are waking up to the reality that Obama is NOT a progressive champion and he is running a weak campaign.

Let's turn the page and WE WANT CHANGE! If we lose in November, we will have accomplished nothing and lost the Supreme Court. Unity, hope, change, old politics, blah, blah.....

Hmmm, if we only we had nominated a candidate who could have destroyed McCain effectively. But No, I guess not.  

by bsavage 2008-06-30 10:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

Deadenders are hilarious.

by spacemanspiff 2008-06-30 10:58AM | 0 recs
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by venician 2008-06-30 12:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama Campaign Bungling Wes Clark Comments

He's keeping his hands clean of even the hint of swiftboaying in order to take on real swiftboating with full force.  He's handling this brilliantly.  Let the surrogates do the heavy hitting and let Obama play the guy who's rising above it all.  Classic politics.  Clarke knows the fame, you should too.

by OVAH 2008-06-30 10:57AM | 0 recs
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game, not fame.  Dang iPod touch spellchecker.

by OVAH 2008-06-30 10:59AM | 0 recs
I am beyond frustrated with the Obama campaign's

attitude toward the left and with Obama's statements the past 10days.....since when should anyone or any group be called out for stating the obvious????

No smears

No whispers

Just a factual statement uttered without rancor....

And for that Wes Clark is criticized?

Moveon.org gets used as a target by a Democrat?

If it wasn't for Moveon rallying and motivating and engaging countless thousands in the dark dismal years post 2002 - how many transferred that initial activism through Moveon and got "re-introduced" as  "newly engaged activists" the Obama likes to claim for his own?

As a former Edwards supporter and Dem Party activist from MA I know the Obama supporters( also MA Dem Party activists) from our area and they were all Moveon partcipants from the gitgo.

If it bothers me how are they reconciling this latest statement? Some of them have decided that Obama can do and say no wrong but others are whispering in disappointed tones.

My vote has become a vote against McCain; it could have been so much more

by merbex 2008-06-30 10:59AM | 0 recs
Re: I am beyond frustrated with the Obama campaign

Don't forget he dismantled Dem 527s.

No can't have them. They would be much to rough for the polite circles he is used too.

by Makey 2008-06-30 11:17AM | 0 recs
Re: I am beyond frustrated with the Obama campaign

I thought you deadenders thought Obama played dirty Chicago politics, now he's not tough enough?  You guys should really try and stay on message.

by venician 2008-06-30 12:21PM | 0 recs
Re: I am beyond frustrated with the Obama campaign

Well, he is whichever fits their current narrative. The current one is that he isn't Tough 'Nuff to win, so he is back to being helpless.

When he does something and fires back hard, they will switch again.

It's a cycle.

by Darknesse 2008-06-30 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: I am beyond frustrated with the Obama campaign

It's also a friggin BORE.

by venician 2008-06-30 01:04PM | 0 recs
Republicans never cede an inch on anything.

Are you sure you want Democrats to emulate the GOP whose name is in the toilet?

by Beren 2008-06-30 01:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Republicans never cede an inch on anything.

Rec this comment up!  Thank you!

Some people want to fight just for the sake of fighting...  this whole brewhaha is not constructive and is a big distraction, which is what McCain wants!  He WANTS this fight!  It will rally up the base!  And people want to give McCain what he wants?

by LordMike 2008-06-30 02:48PM | 0 recs

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