Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology accepted)

I'm thinking of switching back to Obama if he will apologize and make right the following missteps:

Apologize for using the racism slur against Hillary and Bill. As they have done more for AA's than any white politician in history, it is ridiculous for them to be charged with racism.  

Apologize for disenfranchising millions of voters in MI and FL.

Apologize for stealing 4 of Hillary's delegates.

Apologize for lying about Jeremiah Wright's portrayal in the media as being simply 'snippets' handpicked to make him look bad. (Wright later proved that these were not simply snippets taken out of context when he rehashed them at the National Press Club).

Apologize for not leaving that racist congregation sooner.

Apologize for his connections to the convicted felon Rezko and terrorist Ayers.


It's quite a laundry list, but if he wants my vote, he needs to make amends.


Tags: Forgive (all tags)



Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Obama shouldn't apologize for anything.

by Makey 2008-06-12 02:59AM | 0 recs
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LOL at the Clintons doing more for AAs than "any white politician in history."

by NeverNude 2008-06-12 03:06AM | 0 recs
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Yea, forget about that Lincoln guy.

by Gene In PA 2008-06-12 04:09AM | 0 recs
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Forget about the Freedom riders too.  Did they feel Obama's pain?  THAT'S the question.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 04:37AM | 0 recs
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Actually Lincoln wanted to ship freed slaves to Nicaragua and even asked Congress for money to do so.  He called for black citizenship only among the "intelligent".  It's a myth that Lincoln was for integration and equality.

by handsomegent 2008-06-12 04:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back

While that is true, even Frederick Douglass said that, given the context in which he lived, the "negroes" had never had a better benefactor, and he was plain about that fact.

Sadly, all things are contextual.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-12 05:50AM | 0 recs
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Or forget about Hillary's hero, Lyndon Johnson.

by katpee 2008-06-12 06:01AM | 0 recs
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I actually can't think of anything Bill Clinton did for the African American community.  They were the ones who put him in office so he should have delivered something.

Can anyone think of anything?  I'm not being snarky.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

apart from the fact that he  appointed more african americans in his adminstration than any president before him... giving them a broad range of voice and power over making decsions for low income familes in various sectors.

les we forget that the US is not just made up of AA's as the sole designated  minority in the country--- To see what he did for " all" minorities, you would have take his entire record into account.

Because you see this country is built on non discrimination and as such there are no " ONLY BLACKS" laws passed anymore...

so simply enter the words " bill clinton record " in google.. go thru his record ( i think its the 1st link) and decipher what he did for all low income familes in every sector ( taxes, education, health blah blah)

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-12 08:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

I'd also like to add that this notion of being questioned about what he did for blacks could very well be applied to obama. Not only for blacks but what did he do for poor whites? asians, hispanics?...

should all the 3 above races not vote for obama because he has no record of doing anything for them?

I don't think so... but if you push that line of questioning , be prepared to be questioned back...

by aliveandkickin 2008-06-12 08:31AM | 0 recs
Vote for someone else

By all means

by NeverNude 2008-06-12 03:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Vote for someone else

To the dairist and those interested in my response:

Please watch minute 12:50 through minute 13:30 of this episode of South Park: 103531


by comingawakening 2008-06-12 05:36AM | 0 recs
Why don't you apologize for this ignorant

piece of trash diary?

Why should Obama apologize for sins he didn't commit?

I'd also try growing some thicker skin if I were you.  It was a hard fought primary and feelings were bound to be hurt on both sides.  Now it's time to put that garbage behind us and move on.  

If your waiting on an apology from Obama for the list of offenses he didn't commmit I wouldn't hold my breathe.

by zoopnfunk 2008-06-12 03:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Why don't you apologize for this ignorant

I disagree. I think that this list is a little too exclusive. It omits a lot of important apologies Obama needs to make:

-Apologize for the weight I gained this winter and for not making it is to get it off

-Apologize for David Ortiz's left wrist injury

-Apologize for not investigating Tim Donaghy (the corrupt NBA ref) earlier

-Apologize for Nickleback

-Apologize for stealing all of Hillary's superdelegates after she conceded

-Apologize for not apologizing sooner

-Apologize for not apologizing for not apologizing sooner sooner

by TCQuad 2008-06-12 05:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Why don't you apologize for this ignorant

"-Apologize for Nickleback"

Frankly, that's not enough.  Self-flagellation is the only proper way.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-12 05:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Why don't you apologize for this ignorant

"nickelback", that you for malking me laugh today, this site is heavy on the McTrolls today.

Here is another few the diarist left out

"He should apologize for my irrational fear of black people."

"He should apologize for my mental fortitude not being that fortitudy"

"He should apologize for me, I mean Hillary, not gettings the preciousssss"

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 12:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Why don't you apologize for this ignorant

Also, he needs to apologize for the typos in my original post.

"for not making it is to get it off"? "Easy" became "is"? Me brain no work good in AM.

by TCQuad 2008-06-12 12:58PM | 0 recs
Apology Tour

I hear Obama is going to do an Apology Tour, in which he will personally visit every person that he has offended, whether the offense was his fault or not, and say he's really, really, really, really, really, really sorry.

He will then give each person who was offended one thousand U.S. dollars, a Get Out Of Jail Free card, a pirated copy of the script to the upcoming The Hobbit movie, and a big kiss (no tongue).

I feel that, by the end of this tour, he will have repaired the damage done mostly by other people during the primary, and he will then, by early October, be ready to begin his general election strategy.

by Dracomicron 2008-06-12 03:24AM | 0 recs
There's an upcoming Hobbit movie?

Hadn't heard that.

by Travis Stark 2008-06-12 04:55AM | 0 recs
Two, actually

One is The Hobbit and there's a connector movie that hooks it to Fellowship, drawn from the notes of Tolkein and filled in by his son, Christopher.  Last word is that Jackson is exec producing and Guillermo del Toro (of Pan's Labrynth and a bunch of other good movies) is directing.

by Dracomicron 2008-06-12 05:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Two, actually

Just goes to show that even in a totally inane thread, one can still learn something.

by Travis Stark 2008-06-12 05:18AM | 0 recs
Re: Two, actually

It's not as hot as it was yesterday.

by niksder 2008-06-12 06:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

Hold your breath waiting for the apology, PLEASE.

by LtWorf 2008-06-12 03:26AM | 0 recs
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by RockvilleLiberal2 2008-06-12 03:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Go and vote for John McCain. No one is begging you and no one cares.

by Makey 2008-06-12 03:30AM | 0 recs
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by switching sides2 2008-06-12 04:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

"Look, I'm sorry you have to get a back-alley abortion, but the other guy wouldn't throw himself at my feet! I hope you understand."

by really not a troll 2008-06-12 03:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

politics of fear, just like Bush.

Obamatons = Bushites

by switching sides2 2008-06-12 04:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

switching side's comment history

joined today. smells like McTroll.

by really not a troll 2008-06-12 04:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

It's the username formerly knows an "switching sides", who was banned, changed their name to "rankles", was banned again, and, like a turd-blossom, is back again.

by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

I'll switch, just watch me.  I'll really do it.  Don't make me do it.  I can't wait to read the posts of "switched sides."  

by niksder 2008-06-12 06:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

It is not the politics of fear, or threatening, to tell you what the Republicans will do if they get the chance.

This isn't complicated, and we're not the bad guys.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-12 05:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

"Politics of fear" is usually used in reference to a politician wanting to maintain a sense of dread concerning the evil Others that will come and kill your children in the night.

It's NOT usually used in reference to the idea that the things decided in Washington are actually important, and your personal hurt feelings really really aren't.

by Aris Katsaris 2008-06-12 05:55AM | 0 recs
You forgot the Pony

Myself I want a Unicorn.

by parahammer 2008-06-12 03:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Listen, with his oratory skills and all those Republican representatives not supporting him, McCain seems in a pityful state.

I feel like being nice to him just a little bit, do him a little favor. Such as granting him your vote.

by french imp 2008-06-12 03:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Aha, you want me to vote republican?

nAAAH, I'm a progressive, unlike you.

by switching sides2 2008-06-12 04:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

You're the one throwing the childish hissy fit.  You made the threat.  No one should or will apologize for this silliness.  So, go vote for McCain.  Your vote will not be missed here.  Or are you just making empty threats?

by NJIndependent 2008-06-12 08:51AM | 0 recs
The GOP is for you.

He has nothing to apologize for.

You obviously don't support him.

Because you don't support him you obviously no longer support Hillary Clinton.

Congratulations! Head right on over to You are not a Republican!

by Travis Stark 2008-06-12 04:13AM | 0 recs
actually I meant you are NOW a Republican.

Slip of the fingers.

by Travis Stark 2008-06-12 04:14AM | 0 recs
Re: The GOP is for you.

Yes, all progressives are now republicans.


Its only the marxists who are now democrats, right?

The babies in their crappy nappies?

I'm more of a Democraticist than you can ever be.

by switching sides2 2008-06-12 04:42AM | 0 recs

You must be. I don't even know what that is.

Is that someone who forsakes every progressive goal, ideal, and principle because they lost a primary election and consequently plots to throw the balance of power in our country to people having exactly the opposite ideology from that which they once purported to support. Because if that's it. That's you for sure.

by Travis Stark 2008-06-12 04:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Democraticist?
Democratic Party - Democraticists
Republican Party - Republicans
Libertarian Party - Libertarians
by switching sides2 2008-06-12 05:34AM | 0 recs
Oh really?

Democratic Party - Democraticists


Republican Party - Republicanists
Libertarian Party - Libertarianists

The word you are looking for is Democrats, and Democratic Party, I believe. Telling. Very telling.

by Travis Stark 2008-06-12 06:04AM | 0 recs
Re: The GOP is for you.

What exactly is a "Democraticist"?  I don't know this word.

Are you implying that Obama is a Marxist?  Or that I am?  I don't think either one of us intends to collectively control all property, nationalize industries, and run a command economy.

Maybe I missed that part.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-12 05:53AM | 0 recs
Re: The GOP is for you.

Depending which deadender you ask, Obama is either a Marxist or a right-winger Republican in disguise.

I'm guessing it depends on which of the two they consider worse.

by Aris Katsaris 2008-06-12 05:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Showing up here for the first time this AM with this scab picking post makes you smell just a bit like a McCain troll. However for your efforts.....

by jsfox 2008-06-12 04:19AM | 0 recs
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Is your colon ok?

by switching sides2 2008-06-12 05:39AM | 0 recs
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Oh come on someone as facetious as you can do better.

by jsfox 2008-06-12 05:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching

Universal, is zat you mon? When's your next video trying to link Obama to the sinking of the Lusitania or the Zimmerman telegram?

Why stop at blaming him for 60s radicals? Why noot indict him on World War One also?

by catilinus 2008-06-12 04:25AM | 0 recs
Thank you for your input

You are a special special snowflake.

Have a gold sticker.

by BishopRook 2008-06-12 04:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

Yet again, we see that Obama's supporters render Obama's candidacy of change and hope and unity and ending divisive, partisan politics moot and meaningless.

Try listening to what people are saying.  Instead, you're doing nothing other than using divisive, mean-spiritedness to slap someone back.

That only perpetuates problems.

by Juno 2008-06-12 05:31AM | 0 recs
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by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

When someone demands that our candidate prostrate himself in the face of idiocy, mockery is a justifiable response.

Why is it that you impute internet message board posts to our candidate?  That's logically and intellectually banrkrupt.

Are you blind, or just stupid?  Unity doesn't mean that Obama has to become all things to all people.  Nor do I.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-12 05:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

Well, I think you are an example of why Obama is going to have an impossible time in compelling change.

I am neither blind nor stupid.

You seem unable to have a civil dialog with someone with whom you disagree.  You seem even perhaps addicted to insulting people and react rather than contemplate and respond.

You are also wrong about not conflating Obama in particular with what his supporters say on blogs.  The reason is that Obama is a grassroots-style campaign that specifically appeals to individuals to foment this change of which he speaks. That means YOU.  That means YOU changing YOUR tone to start the ball rolling.

To say that a post you don't happen to agree with (I think the self-righteous demands for apologies ,of which Obamans are also guilty, btw, has gone way overboard, but the author is making a legitimate point here) deserve mockery only shows your lack of understanding of how change is actually brought about (by people biting their lips and refraining from slapping back), and it also shows, again, that Obama's message has fallen on deaf ears.

Are you saying you will not insult people with whom you agree?  Well, good!  Strange, but good!

Bushies argue that torture is legitimate because of the behavior of the tortured too.  

Your behavior is yours alone and is independent of what anyone else says or does.

I've had Obama supporters tell me I should kill myself. I had a Bush supporter throw out that I must have been molested by my father, and this sick fool ran with this for two years on a blog.  I never once responed to any of them with ad hominem attacks.

I intend to keep my dignity and practice what I preach about really wanting to end that sort of thing, and what I say is a reflection of ME.

by Juno 2008-06-12 06:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input
by John in Chicago 2008-06-12 06:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

I asked you to stop using "Obamans" several times now.  The fact that you continue to use it takes away any credibility that you come here for civil discussion.  Especially given the fact that this diary is a troll diary and you come in and assault people with your "clever" change point as an attack on people who call out troll diaries.  
You should expect to get negative responses when you do this.  But you know this, that is why you do it, it is your goal.

You should do some self reflection to figure out why you are so repellant, and maybe attempt a little change yourself.

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 01:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input


Okay, but can I still say "Oregonians"?  "Californians"?

How about "Episcopalians"?

Can I refer to Clinton things as being "Clintonian"?

Am I allowed to discuss the "Victorian" Era?

What would you suggest I call people from Michigan?

Must have made you very angry when Hillary supporters were referred to as Hillaryites, huh?

And Naderites must have sent you into Orbit.

Do you cringe when you read about "Aleutians"?

I've no idea why Obamans find the term so offensive.  Sensitive bunch. It's nothing more than a shortened way of saying Obama supporters.

Sheesh.  So much self-righteous outrage over nothing.

by Juno 2008-06-12 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

You mean it in a derogatory way and you know it.  

RE "Hillaryites" I didn't care during the primary battle, nor did I care if I was called something like that either.  Once it was over that shit stopped.  I haven't seen Hillbot, Obamamania or anything like that from anyone here since the primary ended, except you and a few other trolls.  

Hence when you scold people about change but insulate yourself from it, it's pretty ironic while it also takes away your credibility.  

That is why no one likes you and says mean things to you.  Again, I suggest some self-reflection

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 01:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

You're telling me how I mean it???

No, I mean it exactly as I said I mean it: as a shortened way of saying "Obama supporters." Just like saying "Californians" is shorter than "California residents" every time.

However, the term I have never used and will never use is "Obamabots" because that IS a pejorative term. So your argument is specious.

But if you can explain for me what exactly is so offensive and pejorative about "Obamans", by all means, go ahead.

I wasn't not offended by "Clintonites".  I'm guessing you weren't either.

The hubris of Obamans is staggering.  "I've asked you not to use this term..."; demanding Hillary drop out and hand Obama the nomination;telling other people what they mean.

by Juno 2008-06-12 02:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

Btw, I've never used the term "Obamamania" either.

If you didn't care about pejorative terms during the primary but you suddenly do, I'd say you need to work on your principles.

It is also yet more evidence of Obama's inability to unite and bring about change, since you in fact are arguing that it is okay to use derogatory terms for opponents.

How does one unite and change the tone under those circumstances?

And I didn't support the candidate who was trumpeting changing the tone and uniting people.  You were.  You are therefore obligated to at least attempt to espouse what he is saying.

And I see you have no problemn with these sillies and their 1s and 2s.

Oh right. I deserve it.


by Juno 2008-06-12 02:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

You see now that the primary is over, we are all democrats again, thus no more need for name calling or separation.  There is NO MORE HILLARY vs. OBAMA.  It is time to move on, but you simply keep stirring shit up by saying divisive comments to Obama supporters (btw the word "Obaman" may not be perjorative to you, but it is certainly used in an effort to classify democrats here, and when you do so, it is usually followed by an insult, or your clever tactic of pointing out the lack of change, which is actually pretty naive/unintelligible, as has been dissected by numerous commenters)

Now it is time for healing and getting united, thus all the name calling is over, the battle is over, we join together now.  But you obviously don't want that, I can tell because you always come in and bring up old shit and stir the pot.   You swarm in all the troll diaries, I never see you in the positive and productive diaries, alway wallowing in the shit with th other trolls.

re 1s and 2s - I like it when people give you troll ratings, because your anti-Obama (which are now anti-Hillary) comments deserve it..that's why I chipped in a few for you today.

Also, hubris is a poor term to use for supporters of Obama who retaliate against your anti-democratic posts on a democratic site.

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 02:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input


You're calling for healing now?

You sound pretty angry over a benign term.

You do not explain for me what is pejorative about the term "Obaman." YOu simply say it is and that you know better than I what I mean by it.

You're using foul language here, not I.

sorry, I don't by the "we're all Democrats now" stuff.  That sounds like the Bush "You're either with us or against us thing."

Obamans think they can dictate to others what they should think, say and feel, all the while chock full of reasons for their own gross behavior.

You think we should all not only vote for Obama but fall in love with him.  Well, some of us have made clear we'll vote for him but that we have serious reservations about him.  And it would behoove those of you resistant or to any and all  criticism of him to listen.  

I happen to think the behavior of Obamans in victory has been atrocious, and I have no problem saying so.

AS for the change thing, Obama has often spoken about changing the tone and ending all the divisive and negative politics.  You are actually ADVOCATING for continuing them!

by Juno 2008-06-12 03:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

I love you

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 03:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

You have never said what is pejorative about "Obaman."

Bush can't admit he was 1)wrong; 2) Made a mistake, and 3) apologize either.

by Juno 2008-06-12 03:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

"And I didn't support the candidate who was trumpeting changing the tone and uniting people.  You were.  You are therefore obligated to at least attempt to espouse what he is saying."

-No one buys this shit you are selling.  By supporting Obama I didn't sacrifice my right to defend Obama on the internet or to call out pathetic piece of shit trolls.  What it really means is changing Washington so it is more transparent so people know what they are getting.

But you already know that, as I have explained it to you before.  Since you fail to listen to reason you are either stupid or a troll.  I am going with both  

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 02:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

Hey, calling people stupid and trolls is a great way to start that whole uniting thing.

"We're all Democrats now...until I say we're not!"

You can call me stupid and a troll, but Obaman gets your dander up????


by Juno 2008-06-12 03:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

You should've figured it out by now, I have no desire to unite with you.

by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 03:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input

Over the term "Obaman."


You sound less than inspired by Obama.

Oh well.

by Juno 2008-06-12 03:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you for your input


Obamans are all for unity...with people who think exactly as they do!

Bush is like that too.

by Juno 2008-06-12 03:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

It's like you saw HillsMyGirl's diary on the Rec list and thought, "Hey, I could do that AND suck the joy out of it!"

by proseandpromise 2008-06-12 04:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Hillsmygirl's diary had made-up, hyperbolic and juvenile claims.

This person points out actual offenses that really did occur.

by Juno 2008-06-12 05:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

 "actually did occur" and "things I feel mad about, regardless of their objective reality" are two different things, Juno. If your so distraught about Obama's horrible behavior, why are you still here? McSame has a lovely blog where you and others of like-mind can rub your psychological wounds together til you feel better. Or, you can spend the rest of the election recycling GOP smears, and Clintons baseless, desperate attempts to salvage her political ambitions. BTW, while we're on the subject, I'm getting really tired of being told what I or my Candidate "must" do in order to placate a small group of bitter, illogical, gullible (and let's face it, whiny) bloggers. Obama MUST win the election. That's it. If you are willing to risk that goal merely for a chance to air your grievances, & beat your chest about whatever it is you think lost Clinton the nomination, then I have no use for your vote. Stay home and cry into your beer for all I care....

Obama 09

by Kordo 2008-06-12 06:52AM | 0 recs
Obama doesn't have to apologize to Hillary...

but the Clinton-hating press who propped up Obama and fell in love with him sure should. (And that means you Olbermann, Matthews, and Cafferty).

by handsomegent 2008-06-12 05:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama doesn't have to apologize to Hillary...

That is a fair point.  I don't entirely agree with it (Olbermann did support her early on, but he fell out of love with her, as it were), but it is a fair and debatable point.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-12 05:56AM | 0 recs
I got your apology right here!

It's SOP in a revolutionary insurgency group to identify the weakest, most disruptive members, and try to get them to "defect" to the other side, where then can be a useless dead weight if not a disruptive force...

With that concept in mind, on behalf of Barack Obama, here's your apology:

........................................ ..

by WashStateBlue 2008-06-12 05:05AM | 0 recs
And what will you do for him?

I want, I want.  

by temptxan 2008-06-12 05:30AM | 0 recs
Re: And what will you do for him?

...Hillary to drop out so Barack can be handed the nomination without breaking a sweat or actually being challenged like he has been his entire political career.

by Juno 2008-06-12 05:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Good luck with that.

I suspect wresting an admission, let alone an apology for offenses committed by the Obama side of things is like trying to get Bush to admit he was wrong about something.

Ain't gonna happen.  They're bullies, and unfortunately they're bullies we have to align ourselves with to keep McCain out.

Very odd thing considering Obama is supposed to be the happy, inspiring, unifying candidate.

Oh well.  better luck next time.

by Juno 2008-06-12 05:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Obama won't even debate McCain, he's flat out scared.

Hillary would have wiped the floor with McCain.  Obama runs like a little coward.

Another thing:  Obama whines about Hillary supporters using 'snippets' of JWrights speech instead of taking in the whole context, then what does he do with McCain?

Does the exact same thing.

100 years of war, etc etc...snippets.


Odumbo doesnt have a chance in this election.  Shame, too.  The Obama supporters will cost us four more years of Rethugs.

by switching sides2 2008-06-12 05:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

I agree with you that Democrats made the wrong choice and possibly a very stupid one (I have serious reservations about Obama as president too).

But I also agree with Obama that we need to change the tone and how we speak to each other in this country.  I also think he's a better choice than McCain.

In any other year, I'd be certain that Obama's clock would be cleaned by the Republicans (not because he's black but because he's actually a very weak candidate for president.  I think he's more akin to Bush:personality over substance, and I worry a lot about him being in over his head once he gets there, a la Bush).  But the country is rightly really unhappy with what Bush has done to this country, with Republicans marching lockstep behind him the whole way, so I think that is the only thing on which Obama can win, and I think he can win on it.  

But I think we are making very poor choices for who will be governing us. The criterion is screwed up.

by Juno 2008-06-12 05:45AM | 0 recs
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Once again, as is par for the course, we see the Inspired Ones, the ones who want change, the ones who hated Hillary for her supposed negative campaign, merely attacking the author with pejorative posts.


where?  When?

by Juno 2008-06-12 05:38AM | 0 recs
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by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:54AM | 0 recs
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by switching sides2 2008-06-12 06:23AM | 0 recs
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by KLRinLA 2008-06-12 01:10PM | 0 recs
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You know, you have managed, all by yourself, to maintain the rough number of angry posts despite the disappearance of TexasDarlin, Allegre, and so forth.

You've posted quite a bit in this thread for example.  You're more than free to, and I do not suggest otherwise.  That said, does it occur to you that you might, you just might have misread Obama, and continue to cherry pick facts, factish material, and supposition such that you can continue your outlook?

For what its worth, I do worry that I have lost my objectivity and try like hell to guard against that.  I hope you do the same.

I recognize that you are pragmatic and have said that you do hope, however reluctantly, that Obama wins.  I appreciate that pragmatism, and I always do respect opposing views (sincerely).

I just don't understand why you think it is that people behaving on the internet in much the same way they always have must somehow be imputed to a 46 year old strikes me as odd.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-12 06:01AM | 0 recs
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that it strikes you as odd tells me that you don't understand what Obama is saying and that what he says is perhaps happy-sounding rhetoric to you but not actually substantive.

Yes, I'm sick of how juvenile so many are and how the way political debate is conducted in this country is by nothing more than personally swiping at individuals.

But I think it's particularly hypocritical when Obama supporters do it because it negates the very theme of his candidacy.

Notice how when I challenge the change thing, Obama supporters attack ME. What they're actually doing is admitting that THEY didn't take Obama seriously, and the irony is, I did, although I knew it wouldn't work, and they display why.

by Juno 2008-06-12 06:08AM | 0 recs
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by John in Chicago 2008-06-12 06:38AM | 0 recs
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by John in Chicago 2008-06-12 06:40AM | 0 recs
Cleanup on aisle five!

Troll diary needs deletion.

Better luck with switchingsides3.

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-06-12 05:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Cleanup on aisle five!


Someone dared criticize Obama in even an indirect way.

Delete! Delete!

Ah, I remember the good ol' days when liberals defended people's rights to express their opinions.

Bush has had more of an impact than you seem to know!

by Juno 2008-06-12 05:47AM | 0 recs
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by Jess81 2008-06-12 05:51AM | 0 recs
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by switching sides2 2008-06-12 06:23AM | 0 recs
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The sine wave of funny:

It was funny when you first said it, got funnier the first couple of times you proved it, then got a little old... Now it's funny again.

by TCQuad 2008-06-12 06:41AM | 0 recs
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by John in Chicago 2008-06-12 06:39AM | 0 recs
Let me write it for you:

I thought you Obamatons were all about inclusiveness, and now this.  You'll have to try a lot harder if you expect Hillary's supporters to put you over the top in November.

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-06-12 10:28AM | 0 recs
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I was a Clinton supporter. Did you mean this to be for someone else?

Look at how offended the Obama supporters are at the notion of allowing people to express themselves!

Would you have ever guessed that would be the case?

by Juno 2008-06-12 10:57AM | 0 recs
by John in Chicago 2008-06-12 12:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama (Apology a

Get over yourself.

by HillarysDesire 2008-06-12 05:45AM | 0 recs
Someone cut me off in traffic the other day!

Barack Obama must apologize for this immediately or I'll vote for McCain.

by mistersite 2008-06-12 06:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Thinking of switching back to Obama

I can't tell whether this is a joke or whether you are deluded.

by rfahey22 2008-06-12 06:37AM | 0 recs
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Neither - basic entry level trolling.  Can't we get some better trolls in here - ones where you aren't sure until at least the third or fourth line?

by interestedbystander 2008-06-12 07:24AM | 0 recs
I reject and denounce the very idea

that the trolls post June 7th are of a lesser quality than those prior.  These are the very best available, and there's no use complaining  and constantly bringing up the good old days.

by ReillyDiefenbach 2008-06-12 10:31AM | 0 recs
I have a better idea

  How about you apologizing for buying into GOP smears and not using your critical faculties to distinguish serious issues from primary season broadsides? You have quite a list of things you're "demanding" an apology for, most of which have nothing to do with the man, but ALL of which have everything to do with the GOP/Clinton smear-gun. You've recycled them so beautifully (and you have such a catchy handle!), that I can only assume yer a TROLL! Go back and tell McSame it's not gonna work, and that he should come up with an idea for his campaign doesn't involve "Obama is more crappy than I am".
  Did I remember to call you a troll? Troll.

Obama 09

by Kordo 2008-06-12 06:38AM | 0 recs
DFTT n/t

by Koan 2008-06-12 07:35AM | 0 recs
whatever dude
Yeah, I'm sure if you send him your pathetic little laundry list of demands, he will take the day, ponder your asinine considerations, invite you to dinner and acquiesce..because he in a country of over 300 million, he needs your vote..and the drivel that goes along with it.
by april34fff 2008-06-12 08:02AM | 0 recs
Troll go "FAIL"

by spunkmeyer 2008-06-12 08:28AM | 0 recs


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