WTF is wrong with you people?!

I have just finished commenting in the umpteenth diary this primary season that cited right-wingers to make points against Obama. This phenomenon, has gone from being hillariously insane (SusanHu citing Debbie Schlussel), to just sad (witness this weekend's rally round Pat friggin' Buchannon) to downright offensive (today's diary citing accessory to war crimes Bill Kristol) to outright frightening (the citation of White Natalist site V.Dare- though this was thankfully removed after it was pointed out to the author).  Frankly, the cognitive dissonacance that enables some of the Hill supporters to do this is in a way impressive; remember in many cases these are the same people who are staging a reasonably justified boycott of the Daily Kos (but feel free to turn MYDD into a hybrid of Freerepublic and Stormfront), yet I beseech that they and the more ardent Obama supporters (including myself in some cases) quit doing this; quit citing scum.

Please these are the same people (edit: the people who are being quoted not the diarists themselves) who called Hillary a lesbian and Bill a rapist, the same people who view Vince Foster's suicide as a hit, the same people who injected terms like Mena, and Travelgate into the national lexicon, and frankly accepting there smears of Obama only lends credence to those who would do us and our Republic itself, harm. In closing I would like to pose a question, do you believe the stuff they wrote in the 1990s- was Hillary a murderous lesbian who stuck by her sexual predator of a husband solely for political power; and if not why do you believe them now?

Tags: Freepers, MyDD (all tags)



Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

Yes, I do believe some of the stuff from the 90s.  The Clintons have always been power hungry, prepared to do anything and say anything to achieve and then maintain power.  All you have to do is look at their track record.  How many presidents, under oath, would say something as assinine as "that depends on what your definition of the word "is" is."  How many more Lincoln-bedrooms, and travel-gates, and file-gates, and Monica Lewinskis and Vince Fosters, and last minute pardons do you need to convince you that the Clintons are foul.  The Democratic party deserves better.

by PittsburghPete 2008-03-17 08:12AM | 0 recs
That's Not The Issue

Way to sully an otherwise reasonable and much needed diary with an incredibly stupid and unnecessary comment.

We really shouldn't take Vince Foster or travel-gate any more seriously than this Wright bullshit. Clinton and Obama are both decent people, good Democrats, and capable leaders.

The problem at hand is this once-great website's rampant use of garbage like Bill Kristol's column to help the Right damage the reputation of the man who is more than likely going to be our party's nominee.

by HatchInBrooklyn 2008-03-17 08:24AM | 0 recs
LOL -- Thanks!

I was going to say Obamabots used Right Wing Talking Points too, but now I don't have to!

by Edgar08 2008-03-17 08:34AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

great question and framing, i await eagerly to hear the Hillary supporters choose and defend this action, they can't have it both ways. If they choose to believe the hateful repubs now for their Obama-hate then they surely must accept the same repubs assertions of the 90s about the Clintons.... if not i expect a reasoned explanation of why they didn't believe them then but choose conveniently to believe them now...

by jax8 2008-03-17 08:19AM | 0 recs
I read both

myDD and DailyKos and I came here just so I can gain perspective on the Election from Hillary's side. I did that because dKos is filled with a lot of Obama supporters (myself included).

but seriously people this place is making me sad. I've seen peopel here who will quote anyone, just to  get one up on Obama.

I mean I just now saw a Obama hit diary quoting Billy Krystol quoting newsmax. What the Hell???

Yesterday the Rec list contained nothing but Obama hit diaries.

A lot of you need to look at themselves in the mirror.

by kindthoughts 2008-03-17 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: I read both

the only reason some people voted for obama is because of them let assume we dont believe of course hillary has the upper hand

by awayer 2008-03-17 08:26AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

No I am glad you came by and saw why Obama is damaged goods. A lot of us don't like him and will never vote for him.

by rossinatl 2008-03-17 08:26AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

Clinton's just as badly damaged; I would still voter for her.

by NewOaklandDem 2008-03-17 08:29AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

Do you believe Hillary is damaged goods due to her murderous past and her rampant lesbianism?

Or are you applying one standard when investigating claims against Obama and another when judging Hillary?

by Socraticsilence 2008-03-17 08:38AM | 0 recs
It's sad

I do think a lot of these people aren't Clinton supporters, but are Republicans trying to smear Obama in front of a friendly audience.  Who knows though...

by thezzyzx 2008-03-17 08:29AM | 0 recs
No kidding

There's more anti-Obama vitriol, nonsense, and outright crap posted at MyDD than there is at Redstate, LGF, freeperville, or any of the other usual suspects.

This site's proprietor ought to be ashamed of much of the crap posted here.

If MyDD wants to be the "pro-Hillary" site - so be it... but shouldn't there be some sort of line that shouldn't be crossed?  This site isn't "pro-Hillary" -- it's "anti-Obama"... and it's regularly citing as gospel the very same folks that just six months ago -- we would all be calling wingnuts, liars, and enemies of democracy and Democratic ideals.

How sad.

by zonk 2008-03-17 08:32AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

There's hysteria on both sides. You're right, it gets old.

by Nathan Empsall 2008-03-17 08:33AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

It has gone crazy. Democrats have become Rove Repugs and the Repugs have gone moonbat.

by IsaacM 2008-03-17 08:43AM | 0 recs
Agree but with a caveat

An important example is the Newsmax story going around from last year stating that Obama was "nodding his head" in the congregation while Wright made anti-American comments during one sermon.  No "fact" that appears in Newsmax only and is critical of a Democratic candidate should be taken as true.

On the other hand, I think the energetic reaction to the Wright controversy in the conservative media/blogosphere is not to be ignored.  This is the first time during our primary process that I have seen the right really snap to attention.  Prior to this, nothing has even threatened to energize them, so far as I can tell.  

by Trickster 2008-03-17 08:46AM | 0 recs
You have my sympathies...

I agree, it is vile to rely on unverified facts.

by SevenStrings 2008-03-17 08:54AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

If anyone actually thinks that all the hate that is being generated in this campaign is good for one candidate or another, they will be rudely awakened in November.

by pollbuster 2008-03-17 09:00AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

BOTH (zeal-ridden) factions of the debate have been behaving like idiots.  When attempting to approach the nomination as a function of logic and math, I have been excoriated and attacked by the shrill HRC-crowd...and I have seen moderate HRC-supporters who call for calm and patience be ridiculed and treated boorishly as well.

I personally beleive that the moderators/owners of this site truly ought to be more active in keeping the tone here civil and limited to issues, rather than personal attacks, innuendo, and divisiveness.  If the point of a post or diary is to point out Wright or Vince Foster... your post or Diary ought not to be allowed.  

Free speech is fine, but we are killing our chances in November by allowing ourselves to be divided by zealots and trolls. I am certain that if we could keep the anger, frustration, and egos out of it...we would undoubtedly unite behind a single candidate....which is of course probably WHY these injections of vitriol and crap occurs in the first place.

by a gunslinger 2008-03-17 09:03AM | 0 recs
Re: WTF is wrong with you people?!

Wow, and now my reply to this thread was deleted.  Is this censorship?

by PittsburghPete 2008-03-17 09:05AM | 0 recs


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