• This would be a pointless bed...neither you or I would be able to verify who they voted for !!

    So, I bet you 10000 to 1 that one of them voted for HRC, and the other one voted for BHO.

  • Being engaged and alert are lofty goals, but it is incomplete.  If we are ignorant, then we will only be courting disaster.

  • I am suggesting that without getting rid of our ignorance (which is quite profound, in my opinion), our activism is pointless.  Action without knowledge can only result in disastrous consequences.

    I have read and heard some of BHO's speeches.  He is a very impressive speaker (probably the best I have heard).  But he does nothing to attack ignorance. Instead, he appears to be exploiting it (I say appears, I have no direct knowledge of this, of course).

    Ross Perot, in my opinion, did a much better job of promoting knowledge than has BHO.

  • This issue of ignorance is important to me.  You are welcome to disagree with my priorities (that is your right, of course!)

  • The ignorance is not limited to 2 guys in a suit in a NYC bar...

    For instance
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2008/02/15/AR2008021502901_ 2.html?hpid=opinionsbox1

    "The problem is not just the things we do not know (consider the one in five American adults who, according to the National Science Foundation, thinks the sun revolves around the Earth)"

    The author goes on to point out that not only do we indulge in our ignorance, we are actually proud of it.

    How else can you explain Bush getting over 50 million votes in 2000  after his ignorance was documented for all to see (i.e., who is the President of Pakistan).  From that, I can conclude that at least 50 million Americans do not consider ignorance to be a big deal.

    As to your generalization that the quote makes sense to "those of us with brains", I consider myself to be decently equipped with brains...and the quote sounds bogus to me.  So your generalization is not true in my case.

    I applaud you, however, if you think you have researched the issues, and agree with BHO's quote.!!!

  • comment on a post Where does Obama stand on the issues? over 6 years ago
    what does he do about Darfur ?
    what is his position on the farm subsidies ???
    what will he do if MoveOn places a "General BetrayUs"ad ???
  • I am sorry, but "I support Obama in part because I know that he will not do what Hillary will do" does not make any sense.  

    I am sure you have better reasons than that.

    Will you still support him if he says the war needs to go on for another 12 years ?

    In the end, the problem is not the judgement of Hillary or Obama, but that of the American people!!

  • on a comment on We are the ones ? over 6 years ago

    Hi JDF

    My reply to this comment was too complicated, so I expanded it into a diary.

    http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/2/16/0104 9/3217

    Thank you for your honest comments

  • on a comment on We are the ones ? over 6 years ago

    I was one of the "loony left" who marched against the war back in Jan-Feb 2003.  I am a peacenik...I should be a natural supporter of Obama, No ?

    My support for McCain is rationaled as follows: only a warrior can end a war.  It is hard enough to end a war as it is (i.e., when your original objectives have been met), and harder still to do so otherwise (i.e., when you original objectives have not been met).  In fact, if you look at the history of warfare.. it is next to impossible.

    Only a warrior capable of forgiving the other side can bring an end to this war.

    How will President Obama (or President Clinton) end this war ?

  • on a comment on We are the ones ? over 6 years ago

    Yes, I know he "voted for" torture.  I was disappointed.  He is a politician, I guess...and you can chalk these as reasons he is not (and has not been) my #1 choice.

    He was also a prisoner of war for many many years, and he understands torture.  And, (inspite of the talk of the 100 year war), he has found a way to harbor no anger at Vietnam, or the Vietnamese people.  These are both quite significant achievements.  

    What do Hillary and Obama have in comparison ?

  • on a comment on We are the ones ? over 6 years ago

    Yes, it is a shame.

    FWIW, my preference if for HRC, followed by JM, followed by BHO (amongst the remaining candidates).  My original preference was for Biden, but.... he was not the one we were waiting for, unfortunately.

    On the bright side, if you look at history over long time periods, things always get better =)

  • on a comment on We are the ones ? over 6 years ago

    Kevin Carter committed suicide....

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