Blogs Don't Need Big Government

I have always promoted diaries from Democratic candidates and officials, but this looks particularly good. Although I am not a policy wonk, I have read it twice and it seems to contain everything that would be necessary for political blogs and the netroots to operate as they have so far.—Chris

My kids often tease me about the time I pre-heated a toaster before putting some bread in to toast it.  I deny it.  I still maintain to this day that I DO know how to use a toaster, but I also admit to some not-so-brilliant moments with technology, if you can consider a toaster technology.  But, today, even my kids would have to pause to give me a pat on the back for this first ever "Russ Feingold Blog Post."

I am enjoying reading many blogs, and am fascinated by their immediate reporting that is covering the important issues of the day. Many of the positive comments I have been lucky enough to read about my work relate to the fact that I was the only member of the U.S. Senate to oppose the USA PATRIOT Act. That experience taught me a lot, but one thing I learned for certain is that millions of ordinary citizens support efforts to make sure the government doesn't try to take more power than it needs. Resisting overreaching by the federal government is appropriate and, yes, even patriotic.  I feel very strongly about this, and have made constitutional issues in general, and First Amendment issues in particular, one of the central focuses of my work in the U.S. Senate.

While the days of campus protests are not the same today as when I was in college, many people don't realize that campus protests are going on every day, all over the country, when thinking people, from all different states, generations, and ethnicities are drawn more and more to participate and exercise their First Amendment rights in an exciting venue:  the Internet in general and blogs in particular.

As one of the main authors of the McCain-Feingold campaign finance reform law, also known as BCRA, it is particularly difficult to hear the mistaken belief that the law was somehow an attack on our cherished First Amendment rights.  It is not.  The law was found to be constitutional and it accomplished what we wanted it to do without infringing on First Amendment rights: stopping Members of Congress from soliciting enormous campaign contributions from monied interests; and reducing the corrupting influence of big money donations.  Despite the naysayers, and despite shamefully poor and often deliberately harmful interpretations of this law by the agency charged with enforcing campaign finance law, the Federal Election Commission, McCain-Feingold worked in the 2004 election.

McCain-Feingold and the blogs both had a positive impact on the 2004 election and many people don't realize how similar their impact truly was.  Both the blogs and BCRA empowered average citizens.  By channeling the power of average citizens to speak out on the Internet, the blogs revitalized the political process last year.  In the same way, the power of small contributions was greatly increased by BCRA, and someone who could only send $5 or $50 to a political party has become a sought-after donor.  Many parts of BCRA were handled irresponsibly by the FEC, and bloggers are understandably concerned that some members of the FEC may again try to cause trouble by overreaching in the area of free speech on the Internet.

So while I generally agree with the recent decision from Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly requiring the FEC to redo its rules relating to political communication on the Internet, I am also concerned that the FEC will again create unnecessary concern and confusion.  Judge Kollar-Kotelly's decision was not a result of problems with BCRA.  It was a result of poorly drafted FEC regulations that were challenged in court.

The FEC must tread carefully in the area of political communications on the Internet.  Political news and commentary on the Internet are important, even vital, to our democracy, and becoming more so.  For starters, the FEC should provide adequate protection for legitimate online journalists.  Online journalists should be treated the same as other legitimate broadcast media, newspapers, etc. and, at this point, I don't see any reason why the FEC shouldn't include legitimate online journalists and bloggers in the "media exemption" rule.  

The definitions and rules relating to "coordinated activity" should be clarified, so legitimate bloggers and journalists alike don't have to worry about vague rules for legitimate activity.  Certainly linking to campaign websites, quoting from or republishing campaign materials and even providing a link for donations to a candidate, if done without compensation, should not cause a blogger to be deemed to have made a contribution to a campaign or trigger reporting requirements.  

Also, the FEC should generally exempt independent, unpaid political activity by bloggers on the Internet.  We must let this town square, which has added a significant dimension to our political process, continue to flourish.  When the FEC issues a proposal on this issue later this month, rest assured that I will be reviewing it carefully and offering detailed comments.

At a time in the country when we need free and open discourse, when the Senate is rubber stamping a bankruptcy bill which hurts those who have no power, when the country is involved in a war with no timetable for an exit strategy, we must be able to speak our minds without fear of recrimination from the government.

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thanks for stopping by
and taking the time to communicate directly with us.  I am wondering how your GOP colleagues see this issue.  Do you think that you will work with them to preserve the freedoms that blogs currently enjoy?

I also have to thank you for opposing the bankruptcy bill, and especially for opposing the nominationof Alberto Gonzalez.  I wrote to you in January to express my views on his nomination.  (Since my sneator is the Republican chair of the Judicial committee, I didn't expect to make much headway with him.)

by KDMfromPhila 2005-03-10 06:44AM | 0 recs
Re: thanks for stopping by
I didn't expect to make much headway jewelry with him.
by ojdjwww 2006-01-03 06:35AM | 0 recs
thanks for coming by
I'm glad to see you leading online as well as in Washington.
by blogswarm 2005-03-10 06:47AM | 0 recs
Re: thanks for coming by
Posting a diary is certainly progress. Any idea who will actually hold the first Cyberspace Townhall Meeting? With feedback and two way communication?

Just wondering.

by Gary Boatwright 2005-03-10 09:19AM | 0 recs
Dear Senator,
Thanks very much for sharing your thoughts here.  IMHO, the Internet is the ultimate democratic mechanism, and we are going to have to fight like crazy to keep it free and open.  
by global yokel 2005-03-10 06:48AM | 0 recs
I am extremely impressed that you took the time to post this.  Excellent post, Senator.  
The more I read and study your beliefs and career, the more I know I will be able to passionately support future endeavors you may take in...say... 2-3 years from now.  ;-)

Thanks again, and please keep on posting.   Any elected official who keeps an open forum with the people will always have my respect.

by yitbos96bb 2005-03-10 06:51AM | 0 recs
well said
thank you Senator and let us know what we can do to help keep free speech alive and well on the net.
by jdavidson 2005-03-10 06:56AM | 0 recs
thanks for stopping by
I guess that makes 2 Senators who have directly spoken to the blogospehere. (Boxer being the other)

nice job chris.

whats that, did someone say Feingold presidential stock rising among internet activists?

by srolle 2005-03-10 07:00AM | 0 recs
Thanks Sen. Feingold
I am a Wes Clark supporter and let me assure you that you have many friends among his bloggers. Wes and Boxer and you have blogged directly on the blogosphere and thank you for coming among us and being one of us.

It is a late date, but thanks for your words on blogging.

by noelschutz 2005-09-12 05:27AM | 0 recs
Both the blogs and BCRA empowered average citizens. By channeling the power of average citizens to speak out on the Internet, the blogs revitalized the political process last year.  In the same way, the power of small contributions was greatly increased by BCRA, and someone who could only send $5 or $50 to a political party has become a sought-after donor.

This is absolutely true. Speaking for myself, I've felt politically powerless my entire life before discovering blogs. Living in a red state with a conservative newspaper, I couldn't even get my viewpoints printed as letters to the editor.

With blogs, average citizens do have a chance to be heard, especially given that politicians such as yourself are clearly reading what we have to say. That's great and that is democracy in action. Your efforts to protect this are most appreciated.

Keep up the good work!

by Curt Matlock 2005-03-10 07:00AM | 0 recs
more red state blues
i share curt's frustration.  senator, i live in texas, which as you know is a pretty lost cause (but we're working on that).  it's frustrating at times and when i mail john "box turtles" cornyn or kay "i'm runnin' for guvnah" hutchison, i feel like i'm talking to a refridgerator.  the light goes on, the light goes off, and nothing else really happens.

so i just want to toss in a "thank you" to you on this thread, as i'm sure you or your staff will be monitoring it.  when you stood up and railed against the (un)PATRIOT(ic) act, you spoke for people all across the country.  and that's the thing about blogs - every campaign can potentially be a national campaign now.  sure, the GOP has been doing that with direct mail for ages, but this format is much more personal and has the potential to offer instant feedback.

but back to the issue... i am concerned about how you (or the FEC) would define a "legitimate" blogger.  my definition would include someone who is truly independent and not paid by any campaign.  however, you will find that some right-wing bloggers are actual campaign operatives pretending to be independent.  my concern is that there must be transparency, but i don't believe that further government regulation is the solution to that particular problem.

i'm also concerned about the impact of further regulation on the 527s.  it's my understanding that a 501c is a "partisan" entity.  do you see any obstacles to 527s changing their status to 501c?  do you object to such action?

senator, i hope you will return to this thread when you have the time and try to answer some of these questions.  obviously we feel this is an important issue, and as long as you're honest and forthright with us we should be able to hash this out.

thank you again for taking the time to write up this post.  i already admired you for your great work in congress, but you've definitely gone up a few notches in my book thanks to your willingness to engage us.

by annatopia 2005-03-10 07:43AM | 0 recs
Hear Hear

I think you are absolutely right.  Speech found in blogs is not "money" as defined under the Buckley decision because Buckley held that money was not speech because it was the symbolic act of giving that was speech and the amount given was therefore immaterial.  Here, there is actual speech in a blog and no law or regulation could reach a personally drafted blog post which stumped for a candidate.

On the other hand, there is no reason that the click-through ads which are becoming a part of our everyday Internet experience shouldn't be regulated as a TV or print ad.  There is no difference between the media and such ads should be regulated.  

by Robwaldeck 2005-03-10 07:07AM | 0 recs
PreHeated Toaster
I am a technology geek, and I frequently preheat the toaster while I ready the bagel/bread to put in there. I'm glad I'm not alone on this!
by davinic 2005-03-10 07:10AM | 0 recs
Re: PreHeated Toaster
I do, too. If I stick toast in my toaster oven cold it comes out toasted unevenly. But if I let the coils heat up first, the toast comes out nice and brown. I am actually tasked with toastmaking in my family because the toast I toast comes out toasted best.
by cs 2005-03-11 03:25AM | 0 recs
Thank You, Senator
It's good to have you here.

I'm most concerned about the coordination question.  Do you believe that bloggers should receive the same 'media exception' as print/tv/radio, meaning that even coordinated messages are exempt from regulation, or do you believe that Internet activities which are coordinated with campaigns should require analysis under the 'independent expenditure'/$250 in value rule?

by Adam B 2005-03-10 07:11AM | 0 recs
Thanks for the clarification
Nice move for the netroots here Senator. I think you'll find our requests that we'll be sending to the FEC are in line with what you are suggesting. Lets hope the FEC gets this message loud and clear. And thanks again for the original BCRA, it's a huge part of what's gotten us this far with the reform effort in the Democratic Party. I do hope you'll consider leaving the 527's somewhat intact, as we need those efforts on the ground, but if you want to take away their reign on TV, you'll find little opposition there.
by Jerome Armstrong 2005-03-10 07:11AM | 0 recs
Welcome Senator Feingold
and congratulations on your boldness on entering the fray. Thank-you as well for opposing the Patridiot Act. Unfortunately, there are far too many people and politicians who take the freedoms granted to us under the Bill of Rights for granted.

The most important question I would like you to consider is what harm has been done to the political process by internet activity.

You cited this as the purpose of BCRA:

The law was found to be constitutional and it accomplished what we wanted it to do without infringing on First Amendment rights: stopping Members of Congress from soliciting enormous campaign contributions from monied interests; and reducing the corrupting influence of big money donations.  Despite the naysayers, and despite shamefully poor and often deliberately harmful interpretations of this law by the agency charged with enforcing campaign finance law, the Federal Election Commission, McCain-Feingold worked in the 2004 election.

Let's set aside how successful the legislation was and just agree that it is a work in progress. The point of BCRA was "reducing the corrupting influence of big money donations." I have not been able to identify how that is a problem on the internet. Howard Dean raised large amounts of money as did Move On. They did not raise it from well heeled special interests who are corrupting the political process.

I asked a pro BCRA poster the other day to identify the specific harm that needed to be corrected on the internet. The poster presented a parade of horribles about terrible things that big corporations might be able to do. The examples were less than persuasive. The fact is that corporations do not need the internet to raise vast sums of money. Corporations already have very successful means of accomplishing their fund raising goals. I am not aware that Tom DeLay was soliciting contributions on the internet.

In point of fact, internet contributions appear to offer at least the potential for a greater deal of transparency and accountability than other types of contributions. It would be very easy to implement a law or regulation that required instant disclosure of all internet contributions. Let's try limiting any legislative or regulatory over sight to transparency and see what that accomplishes before we throw the baby out with the bath water.

What a lot of people fail to realize is that the power to regulate is the power to destroy. That is my concern. Unless you can identify specific and concrete examples of the harm that we need to prevent, I fail to see the need to extend legislative regulation to the internet.

The NRA could raise a lot of money over the internet. So what? Richard Viguerie spin offs can and have raised tremendous amounts of money over the internet. So what? I see BCRA as a tool to regulate, control and even destroy free speech in one of the last frontiers of 1st Amendment freedom.

Let's be frank. Both political parties are interested in controlling their message during and between campaigns. Both parties would prefer to dominate the discussion of both candidates and issues at all times. To the extent that bloggers interfere or distract from the message of political parties, the internet is a threat. To the extent that independent organizations mobilize and politicize citizens outside of the party structure, the internet is a threat.

Let's consider this statement:

I don't see any reason why the FEC shouldn't include legitimate online journalists and bloggers in the "media exemption" rule.

And this one:

so legitimate bloggers and journalists alike don't have to worry about vague rules for legitimate activity.

Exactly what is a legitimate blogger? For that matter what is a legitimate journalist? I suspect that you and I could differ greatly in our interpretation of both of those criteria. I cannot imagine a legislative definition of legitimate journalist that would include Bill O'Reilly. That's just my personal opinion of course, but I would love to see a definition that included Bill, but excluded ...  who? Do we want to exclude Matt Drudge from the definition of a legitimate journalist? (Allow me to make a clear distinction between a legitimate journalist and a responsible journalist).

I would like to suggest that any legislation, instead of putting furthur restrictions on the internet, instruct the FEC to relax or delay whatever standards currently exist until specific, concrete, harm to the political process is identified. The internet is a fanatastic laboratory of ideas. The internet is a civil libertarians dream. The internet may very well be our last, best hope for democracy. Please don't allow over zealous and well intentioned do gooder liberals to screw it up.

Thanks for stopping by Senator. Your willingness to engage in a cyber town hall meeting on a vital issue has earned you tremendous respect in my book.

by Gary Boatwright 2005-03-10 07:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Welcome Senator Feingold
maybe its like pornography and indency laws. You can't quite define it, but you know it when you see it. The Thune/Daschle bloggers would definitely be illegitimate.
by srolle 2005-03-10 07:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Welcome Senator Feingold
How do you put a definition into words that would exclude the Thune bloggers without including Chris and Jerome?

What the Thune bloggers did was media intimidation. We have the identical problem with the national media. The problem with the media is too little access for alternative media, not too much access. I don't know how you pass legislation to give the media a spine or improve their journalistic skills. Maybe they could be required to read the Daily Howler before they start work every morning. Bob is on a roll with Sen. Hagel and our clueless media on Social Security lately.

I recall when Bush first suggested privatization, Bob Somerby predicted the media would do their usual feckless job. He was right.

The answer is not more government regulation. The answer is more freedom and a more robust response from the campaign and the media. I don't know how you fix our intert media, but restrictive legislation is not the solution.

by Gary Boatwright 2005-03-10 08:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Welcome Senator Feingold
it would be tough.

maybe you could just demand full disclosure. Any blogger that was paid by any political organization (campaign, 527, or any other advocacy group registered as such in the tax code) must have that affiliation displayed prominently on the front page for 2 years, and then kept in an archive linked from the front page ad infinitum.

Journalists wouldn't be intimidated by a blogger, who they knew was a campaign surrogate. It doesn't hurt the blogger at all, if they engage in real blogging. It would even give the blog legitimacy with readers.

by srolle 2005-03-10 08:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Welcome Senator Feingold
Absolutely on disclosure. I would favor rigorous transparency and disclosure without question. The public and the media could both use remedial education on bias and point of view.
by Gary Boatwright 2005-03-10 08:32AM | 0 recs
Wow, a blog post at MyDD from the... President of the United States.  That has to be a first! :)
by Geotpf 2005-03-10 07:17AM | 0 recs
Feingold For Illinois and America
Great to see Senator Feingold join the blogging universe.  I see lots of comments up thread supporting Russ in 2008.  I've set up a a blog at  I've got links to several other Feingold 2008 sites as well as the Feingold 2008 Yahoo message board.

Please stop by and leave a comment to encourage others who stumble on the site that there are many supporters out here.

Sorry to be promotional.

by direwolf 2005-03-10 10:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Feingold For Illinois and America
Im in Illinois.  You have a volunteer here.
by yitbos96bb 2005-03-10 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Feingold For Illinois and America
Sorry yitbos, been distracted.  If you read this stop by my site and leave a way to reach you.
by direwolf 2005-03-14 03:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Wow, a blog post at MyDD from the...

You may jinx it or him!!!

;-)  Hint at it...  

by yitbos96bb 2005-03-10 01:29PM | 0 recs
thank you very much for stopping by and writing this Diary.  it honestly seems like you wrote this one, unlike so many off the communications we receive from our legislators (totally understandable, given the volume).  as a fan on BCRA i want to thank you for the decade long battle it took to pass that legislation.  we may have slowed the big money donors coming in, but someday when the Dems have the majority we need to pass that free airtime bill.
by juls 2005-03-10 07:20AM | 0 recs
Thank you for the clarification Senator
Keep up the good work!
by Lavoisier1794 2005-03-10 07:35AM | 0 recs
I have had toasters that worked so poorly that you did need to pre-heat them (or put your toast through two or three times).

If the toast looks like toast when you're done, then pre-heating works.

The toaster is not an on-demand technology.  There is no live, streaming toast that you can download.

by jcjcjc 2005-03-10 07:58AM | 0 recs
Bloggers aren't journalists
Dear Sen. Feingold,

Thank you for posting your thoughts on this important issue. I trust that you will be a strong voice for the correct approach to these issues.

Let's be clear on one thing however... bloggers are not journalists.

Bloggers are citizens engaged in a public conversation. It is the same as if I stood at the water cooler talking with my co-workers, sat at the local coffee shop arguing with the boys, engaged in a pen pal correspondence with a friend or posted a political treatise on the college dormm bulletin board.

Blogging is a conversation.

Any attempt to regulate or restrict blogging speech is a direct enfringment on a citizens right to express their views on the political issues and candidates of the day.

It is as simple as that.

What you need are stricter reporting rules on 527's, 501c's, and the like. It is insufficient for groups to post anonymous ads attacking particular candidates and their supporters and not have the citizens hearing these ads not know exactly whose voice and opinion is being expressed. It is insufficient for the people not to have an opportunity to attempt to determine the motivations of the people behind the groups posting these anonymous attack ads. This holds true for Democrats, Republicans, and anyone else.

Thank you for your diligence and dedication to our American way of life.


Andrew C. White
Democracy for the Hudson-Mohawk Region
Stephentown (NY) Democratic Committee Chair

by Andrew C White 2005-03-10 08:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Bloggers aren't journalists
Well some people think that they should be treated as journalists some of the time, and some bloggers are journalists.


by Abby 2005-03-10 11:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Bloggers aren't journalists
That is up for debate Andrew.  I have read several editorials from well-respected papers saying Bloggers should be treated as journalists... In that, they mean the people running the sites such as Jerome or Chris in MYDD's case.  The people writing diaries would be more in line with the people writing letters to the editors, just on a grander scale.  I think you need to look beyond traditional definitions.  THe world is changing; you need to change with it.
by yitbos96bb 2005-03-10 01:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Bloggers aren't journalists
But I do like seeing that your rational is based upon fighting any type of censorship or restrictions.  However, Bloggers need to be taken as journalists.  Otherwise, as in the Apple case, we are forced to give up certain protections such as confidential sources.
by yitbos96bb 2005-03-10 01:34PM | 0 recs
Digital Copyrights and Fair Use
Thank you, Senator, for participating here.

I respect and agree with your opinion completely. I just wanted to add the importance of ensuring Fair Use for the blog world.

Linking and commenting on copyrighted material is an essential part of the new Town Square, and we must ensure bloggers continue to have the right to do so.

Also, since you're new to blogging, I wanted you to know that it is completely appropriate to blog in your pajamas.  :-)

Again, it was great to hear from you. Please keep posting!

by cscs 2005-03-10 08:21AM | 0 recs
A great day for democracy
When a US Senator can ingage in intellectual discourse with a mass audience, that is something to celebrate. When this becomes more common it can only have a rejuvenating impact on America.

Thank you also to the MYDDers for their usual polite and enlightened replies.

by Paul Goodman 2005-03-10 09:24AM | 0 recs
thanks for stopping by
Thank you Senator Feingold for making us feel we actually DO count at a time when big business and lobbyists seem to have all the power.

Blogs are essential to those who care about the political process and are ever so grateful to have a place where the ordinary voice can be heard.  This is truly power to the people and all your efforts to safeguard this source says a lot about who you are and your belief in true democracy!

by HWS 2005-03-10 09:27AM | 0 recs
Thank you

Thank you for sharing this with us and continue the good fight.

P.S. Please consider a run for the Presidency.

by ben114 2005-03-10 09:48AM | 0 recs
to everyone who has taken time out today to read my first blog and post a message.  It is a great experience to enter into this new avenue of democracy.  I think there are some excellent points being made on both mydd and dailykos .  

Today, I have been splitting my time between the floor debate and votes on the (horrible) Bankruptcy Bill and an all day Budget Committee mark-up on the (irresponsible) 2006 Budget Resolution, so I will not be able to respond to each comment.  But I have been trying to keep up with the messages posted today in response to my diary.  I am grateful for all the thoughtful responses ranging from the proper use of toasters to some serious constitutional questions.

In particular, I think the discussion about the definition of "blogger" is particularly interesting.  It is really helpful to me to read the comments of people who know a lot more than I do about blogging.  I value the input.

As a senator from Wisconsin, I visit each one of Wisconsin's 72 counties every year and hold a town hall meeting or "Listening Session."  I've done over 800 of them up to now, and this has been a great help in my work.  I hope this discussion today will be the beginning of another way for me to listen to people's views and do my best to be an effective U.S. Senator.

I can assure everyone that while this may have been my first endeavor into the blogging community, it will not be my last.  Again, thanks for your views.  

by Senator Russ Feingold 2005-03-10 10:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks
Just wondering, what are your thoughts on Sen. Byrd's remarks?
by kydem 2005-03-10 04:25PM | 0 recs
speaking truth to power
"(horrible) Bankruptcy Bill"...
"(irresponsible) 2006 Budget Resolution"

This, Senator, is exactly why you have the respect of many people across the country.  You call things as they are and are not afraid to speak truth to power.  Thank you for being one of the sane voices in Congress.

by annatopia 2005-03-11 06:52AM | 0 recs
Meet Russ Sunday AM: Madison WI
Senator Russ Feingold's Annual Birthday Event
3/13/2005  10:30 a.m.

Club Majestic,  
115 King Street,

(Find me for a free "Impeach Cheney First" button. look for the hair.)

by benmasel 2005-03-10 11:05AM | 0 recs
Perhaps I could interest you in a poll, Senator?
Right here.

That's, by far, the highest percentage of committed support out of all the people whose names I have floated.

(I voted for "Yes, definitely.")

by craverguy 2005-03-10 12:07PM | 0 recs
What a day!
First my wife surprised me with a letter from Sen. Feingold concerning NCLB (outstanding, btw!) and now I get to see my Senator's work online!  If you haven't had the chance to stop by his website to look at his issues statement, please do so.  Of the Senate sites I have examined, his is one of the best!
by Noonan 2005-03-10 12:09PM | 0 recs
I hope to see more politicians use this venue!
Thank you for looking out for bloggers who wish to share information on issues and candidates. Blogging is no different from any other conversation one might have face to face with someone. We are simply moving beyond our hometowns and into the world with our thoguhts, feelings and opinions! I hope to continue my support of Democrats and address issues that concern us. I am adding the link to your diary in my blogroll as I hope to support and feature all those great Democrat crusaders, our Senators!

best wishes marie :)

by marie 2005-03-10 12:31PM | 0 recs
Thank you for stopping by.  I'm glad to see you here.

Senator, have a good Shabbas.

Best of luck to the Badgers...

by kydem 2005-03-10 02:06PM | 0 recs
Run for Prez
I was impressed with Feingold on C-Span today with the bankruptcy bill amendments.

With the current move away from centrist Dems, as many folks including Dan Balz of Washington Post have written about recently with the placement of Howard Dean as DNC chair, why doesn't Fiengold consider running for Prez?

And Paul Krugman on Meet the Press last Sunday not wanting Hillary Clinton to run for Prez, it seems to me that Feingold should be looking to run for President in 2008. Dems are looking for someone with conviction and Feingold has always has plenty of that kind of faith. The kind of faith that attracts conservatives more the centrist Dems like John Kerry do. (I know Kerry wasn't a centrist Dem - he only played one on TV for the 2004 Prez position.)

And being a lawyer, Feingold is at least more suited for the job that was Howard Dean. At least Feingold won't show up unprepared the way Howard Dean did so often for those three debates Dean had with his fellow Dems.

I'm really not interested in Hillary and certainly not Biden either after that awful Bankrupcty bill. Fiengold has a charm about him - he has Elvis - he should go for it.

by Cheryl 2005-03-10 03:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Run for Prez
Dems in general always prefer a more liberal candidate, but national elections require appeal to the moderates and center or you simply will not win. When has this not proven true since FDR?
by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-03-11 04:28AM | 0 recs
We need a honest, tough, every man canidate
This is more important than being a "centrist" or whatever.

Kerry was not.
Dukakis was not.

Clinton was.
Feingold is.

Reid would be another good example of a centrist Democrat who also would qualify (his final vote on the bankruptcy bill notwithstanding).  However, with Feingold we get both a winner and a liberal (because he has theses qualities that are needed to win a national election), which is very rare.

by Geotpf 2005-03-11 02:17PM | 0 recs
Re: We need a honest, tough, every man canidate
You mean like Bush? I'll pass. You see, I don't want my president to be "every man" or "ordinary" or "someone I can relate to". This person is supposed to be the leader of the most powerful nation on earth and the face of America! I want the president to be BETTER than me.

What is wrong with this country? Since when is it good to have average Joe Schmuck in the country's highest office or some simian two steps down the evolutionary ladder like bushypoop?

I'll stick with my higher standards come hell or high water.

by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-03-11 05:38PM | 0 recs
Codify This
With Judge Kotar-Kotelly ruling that the FEC should make regulations on in-kind campaign contributions, is it possible that a 'blog exception' could be codified into a new & improved BCRA?
by gmg425 2005-03-10 04:13PM | 0 recs
Reform! Reform! Reform!
Senator Feingold,

Thank you for stopping by and please come back. We'd like to hear from you just as much as we hope you're listening to us.

Senator, you are uniquely qualified to help reposition the Democratic party as the party of populist reform and change that can be a new, forward looking clean government answer to the cesspool of corruption being overseen by the GOP in Washington, DC. We are Reform Democrats and we're looking for a leader.  Please help make your colleagues see the light and help the party become Reform Democrats too.

Thank you for listening,
Steve in Sacto

by Steve in Sacto 2005-03-10 04:42PM | 0 recs
Run. Please, we need you!
Senator, you will have my vote if you decide to run for president.
by Hannula 2005-03-10 05:58PM | 0 recs
Cheesehead to cheesehead.

Welcome to 21st century democracy Senator and thanks for your support.

It has been a pleasure on more than one occasion to say that you represent me in the US Senate. This is certainly one of those occasions.

by dicta 2005-03-10 07:58PM | 0 recs
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That's my fault. I'm sorry about that. I did not mean to hide it and intended to set it as 'lame'. It's back.
by Curt Matlock 2005-03-10 08:03PM | 0 recs
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His conviction on the bankruptcy bill and the Patriot Act (to name but a few things) indicate that he ought to at least enter the 2008 fray to provide Democrats with a serious liberal alternative. As well intentioned as Al Sharpton, Carol Mosley Braun, and Dennis Kucinich were, we lacked a credible progressive candidate in 2004.

That Dean simply showed backbone and was tattooed a "liberal" ought to say something.

Win or lose, we need to encourage real debate during the primary season, not a staged, World Wrestling Federation-type production.

by risenmessiah 2005-03-10 10:08PM | 0 recs
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Mr. Badgerhockey,

My name is Dan, and I'm from Wauwatosa, Wisconsin. You make one valid observation - Mark Neumann nearly won in 1998. However, the people of Wisconsin had six years since to get to know Feingold some more. They read about his votes - the ones that, you say, were not doing anything "meaningful" for Wisconsin, but only helped "uber-leftists" - and made up their minds about the Senator.
Then, when he squared off against a former Army ranger and respected businessman, we chose Sen. Feingold by 10 points over Mr. Michels.
either Feingold AND 55% of Wisconsin are "ultra liberals"
the Senator has done many things for Wisconsin that you have chosen to ignore.

by dbp 2005-03-10 11:45PM | 0 recs
Who's out of touch?
The Republicans have had three chances to beat Feingold, and they've struck out. So who's more out of touch?

Feingold's job is not to run focus groups to decide how to please everyone; it is to do what he thinks is best for his state and country.

Finally, 10 of the senator's 12 years in Washington have been under Republican congressional rule (except for Daschle's brief tenure as majority leader). It's hard to get your bills passed when the majority is opposed to your political philosophy. But besides BCRA, Feingold succeeded in installing pay-go rules into the budget. Republicans stopped pretending to care about fiscal responsibility post-Clinton, so no pay-go. It has the votes in the Senate but will probably be stripped in conference again.

by eskimo 2005-03-11 05:16AM | 0 recs
The gun issue
Feingold does the one thing many liberals don't: he realizes that the gun issue is dead, leave it the hell alone.

Frankly, Feingold has my support as long as he wants it, because anyone with the balls to oppose the Patriot Act (unnecessary for national security, given the Korematsu ruling is still in effect) deserves credit.

by jcjcjc 2005-03-11 06:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Wisconsin...remember us?
Michels was very overmatched by Feingold, I'll agree to that. The Republican Senate elections committee pulled its ads for him early, as they saw that there really was no chance Michels would beat Feingold.

As for pandering to the ultra-leftists - what about the Ashcroft vote? The Rice vote? The decision not to support a renewal of the assault weapons ban (as someone mentioned earlier)? And his fiscal conservatism? Do "far leftists" support reducing spending? Are they likely to be part of the Concord Coalition?

I agree that the 527 groups are a major problem with the campaign finance reform bill. But he's working on fixing that. David Broder wrote an op-ed a few days back detailing how Feingold, McCain, and Trent Lott (yes, Trent Lott) are working to curtail their power.
Even with them, the bill moved big money into groups that could (technically) have NO connection with a political candidate or party apparatus.

As for accomplishments for Wisconsin, how about scaling back the Northeast Dairy Compact? Or ending price discrimination (in a non-economics sense) against Wisconsin milk farmers? Or working to get Wisconsinites a fairer reimbursement on medical procedures from Medicare?

by dbp 2005-03-11 03:42PM | 0 recs
Hey Russ...
How about a VP slot on Hillary's ticket in '08? I'll put in a good word for ya!
by Vote Hillary 2008 2005-03-11 04:24AM | 0 recs
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Don't listen to him, Senator. Don't settle for playing second-fiddle to a hack. You're too good for it.
by craverguy 2005-03-11 06:11AM | 0 recs
Blogs and the FEC
The FEC needs to keep it's hands off this last bastion of free speech. Certain regulations need to be met to prevent the Gannons and Talons of the nation from rearing their ungly, over-influential heads, but beyond insuring legitimacy and untoward dollar flow, leave the Blogs alone.

I praise Senator Feingold for speaking out on this issue and n this forum/format. AGAIN FEINGOLD is ahead of the pack! Thank you Russ! I will vote for you again...

In Wisconsin, DEMOCRATS and traditional Republicans agree...


by JennyMor 2005-03-11 06:15AM | 0 recs
I hope I get to vote for you some day
And I have no plans to move to Wisconsin. Can you help me out?
by TJonBergman 2005-03-11 07:06AM | 0 recs
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Hillary is a two-faced lost cause. She can't win - she simply has too much faithless garbage on her already.

Hillary voted for the Bankruptcy bill right after she became Senator as was noted on PBS NOW with Bill Moyers - just another cheap flip-flop politican.

Times are changing and the conditions are right for the other end of politics. If a radical right idoit like Bush can become Prez that why not a a decent guy like Feingold?

Bush lied, cover-up everything, and gives only to corporations. Time for cool change.

Even conserative voters didn't like the bankruptcy bill - nobody trust Bush on SS. Bolton's appointment is just more examples of Bush's visceral hate for the UN members. Bush is like some little kid that never grew-up and learned the necessity of cooperation and diplomacy and this war isn't going to look any better in 2008 with it growing death tolls.

Feingold doesn't strike me as some lefty-lefty liberal like Ms Boxer. Feingold practices a measured, steady discourse (except for the time Fiengold voted for Ashcroft with some silly excuse that sounded like "the dog ate my homework".) It doesn't do well to say that he was the "only member of the U.S. Senate to oppose the USA PATRIOT Act" when he voted for Ashcroft.

At any rate, its possible that somehow Ashcroft did something by the book - which has to be a big no-no in the Bush administration with that case over the disclosure of Valerie Plame's CIA employment. Seeing as how it appears that Ashcroft was ask to leave - something did go right because Bush gave a loyalist the boot.

I don't trust Novak to tell the truth as PBS Newshour reported that Novak was indeed questioned - Novak told Fitzgerald that the person who disclosed Plame didn't know it was a crime (but this is unlikely for a senior official - not to know) so this must be why special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald isn't backing off of Matthew Cooper and Judith Miller.

A case worth watching.

by Cheryl 2005-03-11 08:55AM | 0 recs
small disagreement
"It doesn't do well to say that he was the "only member of the U.S. Senate to oppose the USA PATRIOT Act" when he voted for Ashcroft."

I disagree. That would be true if the same over-reaching PATRIOT Act would not have been conjured up under a different AG. But that isn't the case. It isn't that Ashcroft wanted it--the whole administration wanted it.

It's interesting to note that, according to Sen. Feingold, Ashcroft was actually somewhat sympathetic to his concerns:

"One of the interesting stories in this--and this is one that a lot of progressives don't want to hear, but it's the truth--is that John Ashcroft gave me a call and said, what are your concerns? And I told him my concerns about the computer stuff and sneak and peek searches. He said, you know, I think you might be right. The White House overruled him, which is a fundamental point here. Anyone who wants to focus their fire on Ashcroft is missing the point. This is the Bush Administration. Ashcroft is its instrument."

Again, the senator's reasoning on appointments:

Q: Any regrets on your Ashcroft vote?

Feingold: No. It was the right vote. When the President picks someone who is his ideological soul mate, that's his right, in my reading of "advise and consent." I do think, though, the more you get up the ladder, when someone is no longer accountable to the President, and more importantly, will stay in office after the President, the standard gets tougher and tougher.

Q: You mean for judges?

Feingold: Well, first, independent commissioners. People whose terms go for five years or longer, like FCC commissioners. That's a higher standard. Then district judges, who are appointed for a lifetime but can be overruled. Then Court of Appeals judges. They're not the highest level, but they're almost the final word. And then, of course, the Supreme Court.

by eskimo 2005-03-11 11:32PM | 0 recs
Feingold's got legs, even in the red zone
Even here in red Winnebago County, WI (Oshkosh, Fox Valley) where Bush beat Kerry by six points, Feingold won 52-47 in 2004.
Wisconsin State Elections Board: 2004 Fall Election Cycle

Feingold     Michels    Other
45,537       41,544     573

Kerry        Bush       Other
40,943       46,542     1,111

Get regular Feingold News and Legislative roundups at  

by christianmlong 2005-03-11 08:59AM | 0 recs
A Message On The Wall
The conversation here has opened the door to defining the blogger. Some say journalist and some say not. My feeling about blogging goes deeper into man's innate desire to leave "a message on the wall". In the beginning man left his message on the cave walls. He/she shared their stories through images of their hunt, families, lives and all they saw around them. Later the Romans and the Greeks inspired us with their mosiacs. The Egyptians with their heiroglyphics and during the Renaissance the Frescos shared the stories of the Bible. In modern times we see large murals that share stories of a community and who has not seen a train pass by without graffitti? It is an innate desire deeply rooted in our genetic make up to leave "A Message on The Wall". WE ARE HERE AND THIS IS WHAT WE HAVE TO SAY!

Some bloggers are great gatherers of information, some are story tellers, some opinionated, some factual and some some are fictional. Some report while others share their deepest thoughts of the day. Coupled with man's innate desire to leave "a message on the wall" is our passion for the element of surprise. Reaching out and learning something new. Discovery of information is an exhilierating experience for all of us. Who doesn't like Christmas?

In short Senator Feingold we are here and this is what we have to say!

Now if they could just figure out how to add a spray paint option so we can all graffitti (tag) our names on the virtual wall called "The Blog". :)

best wishes marie

by marie 2005-03-11 01:12PM | 0 recs
Senator Feingold...
What do you think of websites such as  Are you truly considering a run for the presidency?  If so, let me tell you, you have more support than you can imagine.
by mrmatt 2005-03-13 06:37AM | 0 recs
Run, Russ, Run.
Well said eskimo.

And as far as badgerhockey goes, the "he doesn't do anything" for Wisconsin argument is so 1998.  Also it was never really true.  It came out of Newman's dirty campaign in which it was also suggested that Sen. Feingold was out to destroy social security based upon a procedural vote in the Senate.  

Just because you aren't paying attention to what the Senator is doing, doesn't mean that he is trying to get things done. In addition to the ones listed above:

Introducing the Ginseng Harvest Labeling Act to protect consumers and quality producers of Ginseng from counterfitters and smugglers.

Ginseng farming is big in WI and we account for 97% of US production...but maybe you didn't know that.  

He has also worked to protect WI manufacturing by working to strengthen the Buy American Act through several amendments to spending bills and introducing the Buy American Improvement Act in 2003.  Not to mention voting against NAFTA, GATT and other bills that are harmful to WI manufacturing.  You know, manfacturing is important to Wisconsin.  

Would you like me to go on?  The list is very long.

Anyhow...Congrats Russ on your first post!  From a fellow blogger:

by Forwardourmotto 2005-03-13 01:01PM | 0 recs
Senator Feingold

Thanks for taking the time to post a note.  I am a proud constituent who appreciates the refreshing candor of an honest politician.  

Even though cloning isn't big around Washington, any chance we can clone a few more of you for America?


by BobsAdvice 2005-03-13 06:33PM | 0 recs
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My name is Justin Oberman. I am an up an coming blogger with an up and coming blog. While the blog is not so much politically orientated (we have a category called cyborg citizen) we nevertheless Made A Button for the Online Coalition. I was moved @ the Politics Online Lunch in D.C this past weekend.

Feel free to Copy and paste the button for your own use or just copy the HTML code bellow and paste it into your own page.

I guess you can say I am donating Bandwidth for the cause

The script is available on our blog:

We will be making more buttons as the week progresses

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by Justin 2005-03-14 07:04AM | 0 recs
Thank You!
Although I currently live in Massachusetts, I still consider Wisconsin my true home, and your record as a Senator is one of things that make me so proud to be a "Wisconsinite."

I consider you the standard by which I measure other politicians, and it's sad for me that not too many others can meet the mark.

Keep up the great work, and if you ever extend your ambitions beyond Wisconsin, you have a loyal campaigner for you in Massachusetts!

by jjhsyrinx 2005-03-23 07:21AM | 0 recs
New Jersey for Feingold
For all you Garden Staters out there, i've set up a New Jersey for Feingold site -

it's under constant development, so check in often.


by gdtroiano 2005-04-04 07:53AM | 0 recs
Virtual Public Service
Kudos to the Senator for his innovative and timely use of the Internet-- a medium with an unprecedented capacity to mobilize public service for/by millions, (and not just by academics...) as per the following post in Ray Schroeder's Online Learning Update....

"Sunday, June 05, 2005
Academic Public Service Web Sites and the Future of Virtual Academic Public Service - Ellen Cohn and Bernard Hibbitts, Innovate Online
Teaching, research, service: In the traditional triumvirate of faculty workloads, service is almost always defined as a noninstructional activity external to the institution, and it is almost never associated with the Internet. Ellen Cohn and Bernard Hibbitts ask why that is the case, given that university Web sites can be used for the public good. The authors argue for the recognition of virtual public service and examine two successful academic public service Web sites at the University of Pittsburgh. One site provides up-to-the-minute news on legal issues and research; the other makes available thousands of lectures on public health topics. Both are open-access and serve a global audience. While outlining the criteria for such sites and the challenges of maintaining them, Cohn and Hibbitts make a persuasive case for an expanded definition of public service."  RE: Article in Innovate

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