Palin, Sexism, and Feminism

I am tired of hearing of the term "sexism" being thrown around. Can a woman be president? Sure, why not? Correct me if i am wrong, but i don't remember seeing that having a penis is a requirement. Nor do i remember there being a cap of the amount of melanin in the skin of a candidate for presidency. These are physical attributes. The real fight comes down to personality and the role that plays in the decisions made by said candidate.
Are we ready as a country to let a woman assume the role of president? I think so. Look at how both parties have reacted to their own choosing a woman. Hilary vs. Obama was a big issue and some people never got over the primaries but how many were proud as hell that they had her on their side when they saw her speech at the DNC? We, on a general level, support candidates who the party and our peers in whichever party we affiliate with. The feminists that are so short-sighted with Palin disgust me. Now if we back in the days that women couldn't vote, would these same "feminists" support the women that said that it wasn't necessary to push womens' rights? Palin scares me. I worry about my childrens' rights and my rights if she becomes VP or president. I worry about what will happen to my disabled mother who cannot support herself anymore and has had to move in with me. I worry about the kids in my neighborhood and what will happened with their education. With Palin and McCain in office, will they have the resources and chances to become great leaders? I worry about my girlfriends... one in six of them will be raped. Is it enough that social stigma surrounding rape prevents 60% of them to report, or do they need a forced pregnancy and financial responsibility as well. This isn't about sexism or racism, it is about anti-humanism.

Tags: feminism, Palin, rights, sexism (all tags)



Re: Palin, Sexism, and Feminism

So very, very true.

Sarah Palin is the antithesis of a feminist.  She can single handly set back women's rights 50 years or more, and she's too ignorant to know that her rights are complete odds with her beliefs.  

My husband and I had a long conversation about her the other night, and he brought up a good point.  Let's, for a moment, say that Palin was a MAN.  Would HE have even been nominated for VP with his extremist views, with his complete lack of respect for women?  With his record in his home state?  Would anyone be calling it "sexist" to question his education or anything else??  I think not.  HE would never have gotten this far, and for that VERY reason, Palin should never have gotten this far either.  She scares me.

Is the White House ready for a woman President?  Yes, but that President should be someone we would all be proud of regardless of gender.  If you can't take the gender or race out of the equation, and still say this is a good canidate, then they shouldn't be considered, and therein lies the problem.  I don't think this country is ready to be OBJECTIVE when considering a canditate as a person, and not male/female or white/black/other.....

by Pa Woman 2008-09-17 02:56PM | 0 recs
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I remember when i was in college, I brought home my best friend and roommate to visit. She was black. Coming from a back town in PA that had had one black family since i could remember, i knew that there was a possibility that it would cause a stir but i didn't realize the commotion would come from my own family. At one point my brother said something nasty and quickly explained that he was "taught not to trust some people" from experiences of his living in the south. I responded that i must be racist because I have been taught not to trust white people Maybe it was my lack of exposure to the African race and my overexposure but every time i had been screwed over, it was by a white person.

I know that this isn't the case for everyone but i think that people have a tendency to forget the failures of the white race and where the old white guys in government have gotten us.
by selfevident 2008-09-17 03:09PM | 0 recs
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Racism and sexism sometimes come from the most unexpected places.......

I think we need to look beyond past failures and watch for extremism in ALL cases.  We can learn from our history and learn to look past the color of ones skin or the genitalia one might have, and examine the PERSON underneath.  That is what I was taught.  White,black,asian,hispanic,male, woman it makes no difference.  It's the color of the persons soul that makes ALL the difference, and yes, there can be shades of grey.

by Pa Woman 2008-09-17 03:21PM | 0 recs
a man's opinion

An opinion from a man raised by a feminist mother:

[Palin] may have appeared to the public as an independent, capable professional woman, but to a particular elite she couldn't possibly be a real feminist or even a serious candidate. And that raises questions about what is -- and what is not -- feminism.

At an early age, I was mentored on most feminist arguments by my late mother. She graduated from Stanford Law School in the 1940s but then was offered only a single job as a legal secretary. Instead, she went back home to raise three children with my father, a teacher and farmer, and only returned to legal work in her 40s. She was eventually named a California superior court judge and, later, a state appellate court justice.

Hers was a common and compelling feminist argument of the times, and went something like this: Women should receive equal pay for equal work, and not be considered mere appendages of their husbands. Childrearing -- if properly practiced as a joint enterprise -- did not preclude women from pursuing careers. A woman's worth was not to be necessarily judged by having either too many or too few children, given the privacy of such decisions and the co-responsibility of male partners.

In such an ideal gender-blind workplace, women were not to be defined by their husband's or father's success or failure. The beauty of women's liberation was that it was not hierarchical but included the unmarried woman who drove a combine on her own farm, the corporate attorney and the homemaker who chose to home-school her children.
First, there is a particular class and professional bent to the practitioners of feminism. Sarah Palin has as many kids as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, she has as much of a prior political record as the once-heralded Rep. Geraldine Ferraro, who was named to the Democratic ticket by Walter Mondale in 1984 -- and arguably has as much as, or more executive experience than, Barack Obama. Somehow all that got lost in the endless sneering stories about her blue-collar conservatism, small Alaskan town, five children, snowmobiling husband and Idaho college degree.

Second, feminism now often equates to a condescending liberalism. Emancipated women who, like Palin, do not believe in abortion or are devout Christians are at best considered unsophisticated dupes. At worse, they are caricatured as conservative interlopers, piggybacking on the hard work of leftwing women whose progressive ideas alone have allowed the Palins of the world the choices that otherwise they would not now enjoy.

Apparently these feminists believe that without the ideas of Gloria Steinem on abortion, a moose-hunting PTA mom would not have made governor. The Democrat's vice presidential candidate, Joe Biden, said Palin's election, given her politics, would be "a backward step for women."

Third, hypocrisy abounds. Many female critics of Palin, in Washington and New York politics and media, found their careers enhanced through the political influence of their powerful fathers, their advantageous marriages to male power players and the inherited advantages of capital. The irony is that a Palin -- like a Barbara Jordan, Golda Meir or Margaret Thatcher -- made her own way without the help of money or influence.

Fourth, most Americans still believe in the old feminism but not this new doctrinaire liberal brand.

by Nancy Kallitechnis 2008-09-17 05:45PM | 0 recs

Here is the link to the article: ge/?url= /articles/2008/09/what_was_feminism.html

September 11, 2008
What Was Feminism?

By Victor Davis Hanson

by Nancy Kallitechnis 2008-09-17 05:48PM | 0 recs
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you forgot the rest of the article...

<>Fourth, most Americans still believe in the old feminism but not this new doctrinaire liberal brand. Consequently, a struggling John McCain suddenly has shot ahead of Obama in the polls. Apparently millions of Americans like Palin's underdog feminist saga and her can-do pluckiness. Many are offended by haughty liberal media elites sneering at someone that, politics aside, they should be praising -- for her substantial achievements, her inspirational personal story and her Obama-like charisma. This past week we were supposed to learn about a liberated Gov. Sarah Palin. Instead the media taught us more than we ever wanted to know about what they now call feminism.<>

I, for one don't care about her personal story. I am here for politics. You say that feminism is a facet of politics, and i agree, as are most if not all social issues. I feel that Palin is a step backward. I feel that it is a the women's right to choose what she does with her body. Just as i feel that it is a man's choice to do what he wants to his own body. This makes sense to me. I feel to take rights away from women is a step backward. I think to punish women for an act of violence that is done against them is a step backward.
by selfevident 2008-09-17 07:54PM | 0 recs
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I didn't forget the rest of the article. I posted the relevant parts. It's important to note that a woman politician's personal choices about how to conduct her life are completely separate from her political work. Palin has repeatedly stated that. While in office she has never made an effort to stop abortion.

by Nancy Kallitechnis 2008-09-17 08:08PM | 0 recs
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Are they really separate? You don't think that it will come out eventually? What exactly do you think sculpts political opinions and thus their political actions? As far as i know it would be one's beliefs.
by selfevident 2008-09-17 08:51PM | 0 recs
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Are they really separate? You don't think that it will come out eventually? What exactly do you think sculpts political opinions and thus their political actions? As far as i know it would be one's beliefs.

They are separate but sometimes people choose to mix them. Politician's have a duty to serve the people. In order to serve the people they have to put other's needs before their own, thus a good politician keeps their personal beliefs separate from public policy except when it is to the benefit of the people.

by Nancy Kallitechnis 2008-09-17 09:12PM | 0 recs
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i don't believe they are separate. We don't live in Utopia, we live in America. I think the biggest flaw that in your entire comment though is that you are insinuating that Palin is a good politician. Does she put others' needs before her own when she lets the McCain campaign lie constantly about her record? Does she put others' needs before her own when she equates hockey moms to dogs?
by selfevident 2008-09-17 09:46PM | 0 recs
public service

I'm not going to answer your questions and you can think what you like about that. However, I will provide evidence that Palin is a good public servant.

Gov. Palin vetoed more local projects than any other governor in the state's history. She cut nearly 10% of Alaska's budget this year, saving citizens $268 million. So she reformed the budget by spending a lot less.

Governor Palin has spent far less on her personal travel than the previous governor: $93,000 on airfare in 2007, compared with $463,000 spent the year before by her predecessor, Frank Murkowski. He traveled often in an executive jet that Palin called an extravagance during her campaign. She sold it after she was sworn into office. So she reformed the system by stopping extremely expensive unnecessary private jet travel.

Palin faced fierce opposition from oil company lobbyists and broke their monopoly on power and resources in order to help citizens. She chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which oversees the production of petroleum in Alaska. When she reported conflicts of interest and other ethical violations by another commissioner, she was ignored by Murkowski's chief of staff and so she resigned rather than be part of the corruption renouncing her six figure salary. The commissioner who she found was harming the people, Randy Ruedrich, was also state chairman for the Republican party. Later that year, Ruedrich paid a $12,000 fine for breaking state ethics laws. In 2005, Palin joined a Democrat to launch an ethics complaint against then state attorney general Gregg Renkes. The governor reprimanded Renkes, who soon resigned.

Palin taxed the big oil companies after Murkowski's previous tax regime produced falling revenues in 2007, despite skyrocketing oil prices. The oil tax revenues are expected to be about $10 billion in 2008, twice those of previous year. Palin approved gas tax relief for Alaskans, and paid every resident $1,200 to help ease their fuel-price burden.

Governor Palin stood up to government powers greater than herself and took risks and made personal sacrifices that resulted in real benefit for the people of Alaska. She is a reformer because she changed things that were not right. Alaskan government runs more efficiently now because of a woman who dared to dream of change and was able to transform her dreams into reality.

"Politics isn't just a game of competing interests and clashing parties. The people of America expect us to seek public office and to serve for the right reasons. And the right reason is to challenge the status quo and to serve the common good."
-Sarah Palin

by Nancy Kallitechnis 2008-09-17 10:23PM | 0 recs
Citizens don't pay taxes in Alaska

They actually get checks from the state government.  you don't appear to know anything about Palin or Alaska.

by JJE 2008-09-18 07:38PM | 0 recs


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