• on a comment on Kennedy Confirms She's Out over 5 years ago

    would be a great choice...   I'm hoping.  Partly I don't want Gillibrand's district to be vulnerable to Repubs again.  Kirsten just won big, and it would be good to have her serve a couple terms. She's a good fit too, as the district requires its Dems to be centrist, and she is

  • on a comment on Why I Hope over 5 years ago

    and I was so impressed with him, his integrity...   I already knew I respected him, but my regard climbed into the stratosphere when I heard him on "civil rights rights are for all."  (a paraphrase)

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    I hope you're right. My fear is that Obama is walking the line where the queasy-about-Gay stand, and that he has calculated the controversy will earn him points on the right, come to nothing in the queasy-ish middle and lose him points on the far gay left, but we don't amount to much, and where else are we going to go, anyway?

    That's the cynical argument about this choice.  He may be calculating that even progressives who are basically THERE on gay rights, are going to forward the "it's not that meaningful a choice" argument.  Which, sadly, is turning out to be correct as evidenced by This Very Diary and thread.

  • What is this, equal time no matter the merits of your views.

    Lowery does not, by his inclusion in the ceremony, undo the harm / slight / insult / whatever / of the inclusion of Warren.

    Warren's views = BAD / non progressive / non inclusive / intolerant

    You can't change that fact by "balancing" him with someone who is a real progressive.

  • he's on the big stage now and decisions like this matter much much more.

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    I think another point is being lost here. We, are rightfully I think, Hopeful, that things have progressed since Bill's Inaug.

    The optimistic and stirring message of Hope, Change We Can Believe In, and Yes We Can seems diminished by this dumb or cynical or tone deaf move (however you wish to view it).

    Believe it or not, actual Obama supporters (like me), can disagree with him when he makes a boneheaded move, without it being, um, traitorous.

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    are you talking to me?

  • Thank you Todd. Warren has a long list of fundy views that make him the wrong pastor for Obama to confer this honor upon -- got that everyone? Obama has conferred a signal honor by putting Warren in this particular spotlight -- and now this choice little tidbit from the Saddleback Terms of Fitness For Attendance at Their Inclusive and Welcoming Church.

    Us homos need not ask to ride this particular bus.

    Nice move President Elect Obama.

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    yeah, a friend pointed that out to me.  It would help a bit.

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    that's silly...  the point is, what is getting into the minds of the public consciousness NOW, and more importantly, into particular constituencies? The message will live beyond the memory of Rick Warren, Gay Hater, Evolution-Denier, Anti-Choice, and Proponent of Assassination.  You know very well what that message is. And it's a BAD one for LGBT folks (not to mention those other things).

    Plus, in his world, Jews are a goin' to hell, along with most of us here, I suppose.

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    snark: I guess she can't be objective because she's a Lesbian.

    that's crap.  She was spot on last night, along with the tsunami of other progressives who are decrying this mega stupid (or mega insulting) move of Obama's

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    oh please

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    "Fierce" is the word Obama used in his statement defending the Warren pick yesterday

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    not so fierce on gay. pretty vague, pretty lackluster and willing to throw LGBT under the bus to score conciliation/unity points

    it sucks

    I don't quite see what the gay dictionary definition has to do with Obama, BTW

  • on a comment on Stop Hijacking LGBT Issues over 5 years ago

    okay, severe disagreement about this.  the inaugural invocation is a high profile, highly symbolic event.

    I don't like this symbolism one bit, and it's nasty, cynical politics to elevate Rick Warren. He's a poster child for anti gay.

    Good lord, I guess the apologizers will get mad when their own ox gets it.

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