If she'll join her fellow Dems in voting to end debate on bills the GOP would like to kill without a vote, she can be as DINO as she wants on everything else.
We need 60 Dems in the Senate. If we hang onto Landrieu's seat, that's one less we have to win somewhere else to get to 60 in 2010. (I still have hopes of our getting there this year, but it's one hell of a longshot.)
Funny, I didn't see Obama partisans complaining when Obama attacked Hillary on healthcare using rightwing talking points
Should I have jumped up and down a bit more, and waved my hands more vigorously?
Because I did in fact complain quite a bit at the time, and it's one of the reasons I still have some pretty nontrivial reservations about Obama.
And it's also one of the reasons I'm quite glad that John and Elizabeth Edwards decided not to endorse Obama. This stuff's important, and hopefully their unwillingness to endorse him, despite their deeper dislike of Hillary, sends something of a message.
I can understand a great deal of the carping about Bush Dogs, but like Jonathan says, there are some districts where even a very conservative Dem is better than the sort of Republican that would otherwise represent that district.
In other words, there's a big difference between the circumstances of Dan Lipinski and Nick Lampson. Lipinski deserves to have his name trashed, and should see a primary challenge every two years until he loses, because he's in a pretty safe Dem seat, but votes half-Republican anyway. Lampson's in Tom DeLay's old seat, and deserves all the help he can get in hanging onto it, even if he votes half-Republican.
Cazayoux will be somewhat closer to Lampson's situation than Lipinski's.
I agree that Obama will refuse to make the deal. But I don't see it working out for Hillary if he offered and she accepted. Three scenarios:
1) Obama/Clinton wins in November, and wins re-election in 2012.
Clinton's 68 when she runs in 2016, it'll be 24 years since she first became a national figure, the Clinton legacy will be ancient history, and a generation of younger, more attractive politicians will be chomping at the bit to run for President.
She'll have a chance, but it's not a great one.
2) Obama/Clinton wins in November, but loses in 2012.
If this comes to pass, whatever causes Obama to lose re-election will tarnish Clinton too. Plus all the drawbacks of (1).
3) Obama/Clinton loses in November.
The #2's on failed Dem tickets, from Muskie to Edwards, haven't done well in modern times. Hillary might be the exception. But she'd have to come up with some stronger selling points next time. If she hadn't started off as the trusted, default choice, she'd be nowhere right now.
A realistic chance, but well below odds-on. Maybe 25%, I don't know.
I second Soshi's question, but would also like to know when the penalty went from 50% to 100%.
It makes a big difference whether this happened last February or last December. If FL and MI had already more or less decided a primary date under the 50% sanction, and THEN had the penalty upped to 100%, the 'half-Nelson' solution is a lot more defensible than if the penalty was set at 100% before the serious jockeying for position began.
I should add that it's a particularly relevant question since "The Big [Bleep]pile" seems to be the official blogospheric name for the mess of CDOs and SIVs and whatnot that's screwing with the credit markets right now.
We all know that Clinton's writing off so many small to midsized states was a huge factor in enabling Obama to roll to such a big lead in pledged delegates.
The Obama camp has to be at least as aware of this as we are. I don't believe for a second that they're writing PA off.
They may fully believe they'll lose the state overall, both in votes and in delegates. But they know this isn't winner-take-all, so they're not throwing in the towel.
If they lose PA by 8-10%, that's no big deal. Losing PA by 20 would be another story, and they know it. So they've got every reason to not write off PA. Winning PA may not be in the cards, but a big chunk of its electorate and delegates certainly is up for grabs.
I'll believe they're writing off PA when they go dark in PA. I bet that doesn't happen between now and 4/21.