challenge to Obama supporters

I have been a Hillary supporter for the last two months. Nevertheless I would gladly send a $100.00 donation to Obama campaign and hand wash the car of his supporter in my geographical area if they can convince me of one of the two things- It is morally equivalent to pardon some one who repents and applies for a pardon ( meaning he expresses regret for his action and spends time in jail) and some one who wishes he had "done more" and or show me one piece of legislation desired by the Democrat rank and file that Senator Obama was able to reach across the aisle and get support from the repub in Washington. The latter is his  main claim to the nomination.

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Re: challenge to Obama supporters

Good question!  

I guess this is the what crickets sound like...

It really doesn't matter what actions he's done in the past.  It's about what he says he believes in now.  

by searchforsolidarity 2008-04-16 06:31PM | 0 recs
Talk is cheap..

esp. with people like Obama.

by architek 2008-04-16 06:40PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

what is it Obama - Fiengold bipartisan legislation.

also WHEN did Ayers say that, did he say it while he was hosting a fundraiser for Obama, or back when Obama was like 12?

now Ayers serves the community (kinda like repenting to me no?)

he served with Obama on a Charity board and is looked favorable upon now in Chicago.

by TruthMatters 2008-04-16 06:36PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

I think Finegold is a democrat. I also dont remember this being a high priority with dem rank and file.

by rocky 2008-04-16 06:39PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

you right i mean Obama - lugar

by TruthMatters 2008-04-16 06:48PM | 0 recs
Oh yes

And Lugar is a republican.

And many Democrats do care about our future not being destroyed by nukes.

by Populista 2008-04-16 06:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh yes

Be real. Lugar has been working on this issue for twenty years, remember Nunn-Lugar. In this case Lugar reached out to get a Democrat on his agenda

by rocky 2008-04-16 06:56PM | 0 recs
I think he is

Talking about the Campaign finance or Public finance  bills that Obama, Russ Feingold, Arlen Specter and formerly John McCain worked on.

by Populista 2008-04-16 06:50PM | 0 recs
Good questions

The Google for Government Act.

I would say the rank and file supports increased transparency in government. Obama worked with Tom Coburn to get it passed and now we have

http://www.usaspending.gov/

To track were our money is going.

That good enough?

by Populista 2008-04-16 06:45PM | 0 recs
$50. I doubt the diarist will pay.

by dystopianfuturetoday 2008-04-16 07:05PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

look, if you want to be uninformed, fine.  But Sen. Obama passed government transparency legislation with the aid of Tom Coburn, secured loose nukes in Russia with the aid of Richard Lugar, and passed an ethics reform bill with the aid of multiple Republicans.

I also know that Clinton worked with Lindsay Graham on a veterans bill and even Rick Santorum on past legislation.  This is called "how the goddamn Senate works."

If everyone could not retreat into the stupidity we saw with Stephanopoulos and Gibson tonight, that'd be great.

by dday 2008-04-16 06:45PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

The question is posed to elicit information that would establish that Senator Obama has some special or unique charm or ability to bring people to his agenda.

by rocky 2008-04-16 06:58PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

The fact that he took the nomination away from Clinton didn't persuade you of that?

by BlueinColorado 2008-04-16 07:02PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

lol, that made my night I have to send you some mojo.

by Xris 2008-04-16 07:27PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

Looks like the diarist has got some car polishing to do.

by fugazi 2008-04-16 07:43PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

Obama-Lugar

You gonna post a receipt for your donation?

by BlueinColorado 2008-04-16 06:50PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

remember Nunn-Lugar

by rocky 2008-04-16 06:57PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

You lost so you're moving the goal posts, eh? Does the Clinton campaign give classes in that? Like the Obama campaign teaches community and grassroots organizing? Gee, think if she'd had a different strategy....

by BlueinColorado 2008-04-16 08:08PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

Obama-Lugar

Also Obama-Coburn.

Fair question.

by bigdavefromqueens 2008-04-16 07:17PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

Actually, I think his main claim to the nomination is the fact that he's winning in the process by which the nomination is decided.

by kydoc 2008-04-16 07:54PM | 0 recs
Re: challenge to Obama supporters

You can always tell when it's a bad news day for clinton by how many hit pieces make the rec. list.

by venician 2008-04-16 08:28PM | 0 recs
The premise of your questino is wrong

on quite a few levels:
1) "Legislation desired by the Democrat rank and file" is often achieved by a majority without the need to reach across the isle. You are speaking of issues that are fundamentally engraved within the roots of the party, i.e. the exact opposite of what Republicans stand for

2) Seniority would probably keep him at a distance from the top one or two issues that the party is pushing. You cannot walk into the Senate and tell some democrat who's been fighting for an issue that you can take it from here. You can help, and Obama (and Clinton) have helped plenty.

3) Reaching across the isle is more doable when you're in the majority. Obama was in the minority the first two years

4) His two pieces of legislation with Republicans (Lugar and Coburn) are significant

5) Thank you for the donation :)

by lizardbox 2008-04-16 08:30PM | 0 recs
Re: The premise of your questino is wrong

Of course questino is lizard-speak for question

by lizardbox 2008-04-16 08:30PM | 0 recs

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