Why Obama's remarks touched a nerve with us

It's his enduring legacy of BS.
I won't deal with people he killed in wars, Aids neglect etc. They've been brought up by others. It's the think tanks altering the national perceptions - that still at work today. Obama buying into it - doesn't help.
Before Reagan, liberals were the people challenging the establishment - for all the right reasons. They were the rebels, the idealists - and they were cool. Conservatives were - your obtuse parents, missing the point on everything.
By the time RW bought the media and their think tanks spread their memes through it - it was all upside down:
Liberals were irresponsible, dirty hippies guilty of past "excesses". You'd think they meant drugs - but Reagan's base knew it meant civil rights - one of those secret code words like "states rights".
Their think tanks came with the "political Correctness" - another way to legitimize bigotry. It perfectly turned the tables on liberals. Now they were no longer the cool rebels but the prissy schoolmarms who will hit you with the ruler if you "innocently" say "nigger" - just for laughs. The conservatives became the free spirited, humorous ones that the PC police just wouldn't leave be! (later on this image was reinforced with blonde spokespersons like Coulter et al) The think tank media started calling conservatives "the cool kids" and liberals the PC police. And all the while, they were laughing all the way to the bank, cutting social programs and the rich people's taxes.
The lies have been sustained by the "liberal media " (that's one meme that died!) to this day.
So, I am asking Obama's supporters - in all honesty: can you see why we hit the ceiling when I read stuff like:

"A lot of liberal rhetoric did seem to value rights and entitlements over duties and responsibilities."

"Nevertheless, by promising to side with those who worked hard, obeyed the law, cared for their families, loved their country, Reagan offered Americans a sense of common purpose that liberals seemed no longer able to muster."

If you can't just imagine, years from now, a candidate in your party, praising Bush's resolve in the war on terror and his accomplishments in promoting "family values"

For disclosure - I am speaking for people who LIVED during Reagan years. I am an undecided voter and have no goal of taking Obama down or helping any other campaign.

Tags: Elections, obama, Reagan (all tags)



Did you put any thought into this diary?

If so, it's not evident.

Please read Obama's remarks about Reagan again.  The remarks examined Reagan's impact and his influence.  They did NOT endorse his political philosophy.  They did indicate that Reagan was an influential politician.  I hated Reagan, and still do.  I do NOT deny that Reagan was effective.  How could I?  It is the self-evident truth.  I do not, nor ever, have endorsed that his effectively executed policies were good.  They were not good, and Obama said so in his remarks.

Obama is a thoughtful guy, but I think that his remarks were not clear on the point of tactics vs political views. Obama discussed the tactics and indicated that they were effective.  He did not endorse the substance of the policies.  Many diaries indicate that he did.  Most of those diaries were hit pieces.

by dataguy 2008-01-18 02:00PM | 0 recs
And, yes, I did live during the Reagan era

I first cast my vote against Nixon in 1972.  So, I knew the Reagan administration.

by dataguy 2008-01-18 02:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Did you put any thought into this diary?

What's important is that Obama said he wasn't INVESTED in the event of the 60's and 70's....so, is he INVESTED in the fact that we're still fighting for women's rights? Or that a huge number of those inprisoned are black men?  

We're supposed to move beyond all this...and pretend we're everything has been neatly solved??

Doesn't make me feel good about this guy at all!

by Gloria 2008-01-18 06:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Obama's remarks touched a nerve with us

I don't understand why when the internet gives you such access to actual information, gives you access to the source instead of being confined to filtered interpretations, people still refuse to actually listen with their own ears to what is said.  The continued promulgation of misinterpretations and outright lies is astounding.

by Piuma 2008-01-18 02:44PM | 0 recs
Re: Why Obama's remarks touched a nerve with us

Have you seen this diary?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1 /17/184014/434/810/438544

That should be the end of any of this bullshit from Edwards supporters.

by DPW 2008-01-18 03:08PM | 0 recs
Thanks RV

I agree.  Please ignore databoy, he's a troll.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-18 04:19PM | 0 recs
Seems union people in Nevada agreed

Not much Reagan love out there. Had Obama used FDR instead.....

by Robbedvoter 2008-01-20 01:39AM | 0 recs


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