The tie goes to Clinton because the media and the Obama campaign made it seem like he would win California- the press they gave to the Kennedies was ridiculous, not to mention Oprah running down here, as well as the pundits talking about how Ted would get Obama many latino votes. And again, like in New Hampshire, the polls were saying she was going to lose there but didn't. There were people here on MyDD who bitched and bitched today at the Clinton supporters that they refused to accept what the polls were saying- that Obama was going to win California. So Clinton winning California is now a surprise. California is a huge prize- if Clinton had 14 states but lost California to Obama, her campaign would be in deep trouble even if she had gotten most of the states. Clinton's win was not just against Obama, it was against Obama, Michelle, Oprah, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry and Maria Shriver so it's much more impressive. It's amazing how much she was up against and still won- and her taking Mass. makes it that much sweeter. The big news is that she triumphed over the Kennedies, who used every means at their disposal to try to get her to lose, trotting out Kennedy after Kennedy to keep the news going. Ted was right about passing the torch- the power of the Kennedy clan has now proven to be pretty worthless and it's their "time," their "era," not Hillary's, that's "over."
It's so true she has had such an uphill battle- the media have been so unfair to her and she still won some significant battles tonight- especially in California. Obama had a great night, though, that can't be denied but I don't think he has unseated her quite yet- I still think she has the advantage, although it's slim.
I think it will end up a Clinton/Obama ticket, that neither might have enought to win and that will be the ticket that will be arranged. It is certainly something all of us could get behind- we need the power of both of them to defeat McCain- working together. We'll have to swamp him with getting the voters out to win the states we need- that's what I think, anyway. I'm not sure either one alone can pull it off.
It would be selfish and stupid not to. To make history, for one thing. It would be an inspiration to ever African-American kid in the country. Most minorities would kill to have a VP slot- a gay Vice-President would be huge for the gay minority but there is certainly no chance for that for another fifty years.
They seemed to have both "won"- it can certainly be viewed from both perspectives. Your candidate is putting up a hell of a fight and I'd say it's 50/50 over who will win- he won alot tonight- and both made history. Hillary is the first woman to win that many primaries and Obama beat Jesse Jackson in primary wins so it was a good night for both.
We'll just have to fight it out until the end. Good luck to your candidate.
So far, CNN says Hillary has more delegates- 450- 362. And it looks like she will win New Mexico. It looks like Hillary is winning pretty big and all over the place in California so it seems she will have more delegates- but don't worry too much about that- Obama could still win the nomination, so I don't think much has been decided tonight.