Why The MyDD Community is Failing

We have a very real problem here at MyDD; there's no use in beating around the bush, so I'll just say it.

We are failing as a progressive community.

Bah, you say, what right do you have to judge that? You didn't even know MyDD existed a few short weeks ago. Perhaps that's your opinion, but you're WRONG, get lost!

But the evidence is clear, and if we want to make a difference in American politics, we need to do something about it.

Take a look at the "recommended" diaries list on the side of the main page. Four hit pieces on Obama, with only one somewhat positive post (a good diary, one I can relate with as a nurse, with the exception it seems to insinuate Clinton's healthcare plan is to Obama's like neurosurgery is to band-aids). These rack up hundreds of comments, mostly back and forth between Clinton and Obama supporters on supposed failings/scandals/et cetera between the two, with a fair amount of insults and childish retorts hurled back and forth.

Yet the Diary Rescue posted on the main page really illustrates the problem. Ten diaries about issues that should be dear to us, or candidates needing our support to win in their district. The one with the most comments? Entitled "Blood Will Be On Your Hands in November," it talks about (without mentioning names) what will happen if we let our animosity get the best of us and vote for McCain in the fall.

The comments are almost entirely  centered around a back and forth about Obama "stifling the revotes in MI/FL".

The rest of the diaries are lucky to have even one or two comments posted to them. I've noticed this in the past; everytime a Blue Majority candidate posts, I'll at least encourage them. I called some of my friends in Portsmouth and Bath, Maine, to support one (convinced two of them to take a look at his stance on the issues and to consider supporting him financially). But I was the only one to respond to him. We had a post from a candidate in Florida that devolved into whether or not he supported Clinton instead of supporting him on the issues.

Now, when I responded to our boy from Maine, he (personally) responded back. I noticed he posted at DailyKos, too (ZOMG DAILY KOS!), and d'you know how many comments there were?

Running up on a hundred. None questioning his support of Hillary or Obama, none about our candidates at all, except on the note we needed to support downticket races. Actually, I take that back; I've now found a series of comments on the subject Obama would be a better candidate for down-ticket races, but none go out of their way to bash Hillary.

Keep in mind that this candidate responded to me, personally, and I was the only one who actually did something to help him and even bothered to comment on the diary, and tell me- what do you think this candidate's opinions on MyDD is? Or Clinton versus Obama supporters, at least online? How about the other candidates, or people who posted diaries on subjects neutral to either candidate, but about important issues, and then either don't respond or have it devolve into "OBAMA SUCKS!"

What's more, the "evil orange box" (must be sponsored by Home Depot) has actually been raising a not inconsiderable amount of money for these candidates, as well as organizing volunteers and such for those whose financial situations limit them from monetary support.

Now, there's nothing wrong with debating Clinton versus Obama... but look how it's infected the community here. We're ignoring EVERYTHING ELSE but that. How does that look to other people, how does that reflect on us to the Democratic party, these candidates, current undecided superdelegates, undecided voters, et cetera? Is this what Jerome intended with a site like this? Heck, MyDD INSPIRED DailyKos; why are they beating us at our own game?

So- what do we do about it? How can we fix this and bring our community back to the forefront of progressive blogging? We've got to do something, or we risk becoming another Hillaryis44.org.

Tags: Barack Obama, dailykos, Democratic Party, Election, failure, Hillary Clinton, Jerome Armstrong, MyDD, Primary (all tags)



Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

we are trying to elect a progressive candidate and based on policies (you know that stuff elections should be about) Obama is not a progressive.He is running a campaign based on propaganda. If you do not like what you see you can go back to DailyKos there is a nice little echo chamber there for you.

by tarheel74 2008-03-29 09:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

thanks for proving the point that the diarist was just making...

by KainIIIC 2008-03-29 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

that if we dont' support your candidate MyDD isn't progressive enough?

That Hillary supporters having a place to meet up on the net is somehow opposed to progressives?

What is all this censorship from the Obama crowd?

by DTaylor 2008-03-29 10:50AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

You ignored the point, Taylor. Support Clinton all you want, but if you ignore everything else, it's at everyone's detriment.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 10:59AM | 0 recs
Actually, I was thinking earlier that we need more

DIALOGUE and less 'sniping'.

But its a two way street. I get the feeling that a lot of Obama folk are VERY resistant to holding an honest, open dialogue on what we have in common and what we see differently.

Not all of you, by any means, but some of you are just leading us around in circles with a ring in our noses.. they refuse to engage in an adult discussion of the things that we think are really important.

I was just thinking earlier that I think I know the reason why a lot of African Americans have a lot of resentment towards Bill Clinton's administration, and its actually an area that I think, for a white person, I have more understanding of than many, and perhaps a unique perspective..  

But honestly, I am afraid to bring it up.. Every time I do people attack me..

by architek 2008-03-29 01:58PM | 0 recs
Our problems in this country are deep seated, and

they go back a very long time..

And they are NOT going to get better without people having a SAFE PLACE to discuss them which right now EMPHATICALLY does not exist..

Especially for poor people. Make no mistake about it, they are under attack.

To a lesser extent, we ALL are under attack.

by architek 2008-03-29 02:01PM | 0 recs
Denial is NOT going to get us there..

And its going to take a LOT more than 'hope' too, I am pretty sure..

A LOT more..

by architek 2008-03-29 02:02PM | 0 recs
I'm not going to get into specifics...

...but both candidates have failed "progressives" in one way or another.  

I personally believe Barack Obama is the more progressive, but that is my own opinion and won't ask you to leave.  

I'm glad the people at my Southern Baptist church are more welcoming of diversity of opinion than you are.  


What happened to a positive, constructive dialogue?  

Talking to only those who agree with you can be toxic.  I hope we can avoid that.

by cottonmouthblog 2008-03-29 09:21AM | 0 recs
If someone is drowning 20 feet from shore..

and you throw him or her a 15 foot rope..

It doesn't do much good does it?

But it might look good in the papers..

by architek 2008-03-29 02:03PM | 0 recs
you're WRONG, get lost!

by John Wesley Hardin was a Friend to the Poor 2008-03-29 09:12AM | 0 recs
You're Really Spending Too Much Energy

on this thing.

Now, sadly, so have I.

by ROGNM 2008-03-29 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: You're Really Spending Too Much Energy

I agree, but I firmly believe this election will have great significance to the future of our nation, and I feel it's effort well spent. Everytime I look at my baby girl, I know it's so.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 09:17AM | 0 recs
To Clarify My Point

You're spending too much time concerning yourself with what the other side is braying.

Focus on your candidate and Vett her/him well.

Your dispostion may depend on it come November.

by ROGNM 2008-03-29 09:21AM | 0 recs
Re: To Clarify My Point

Except I've done just that; spent a few days sketching out a diary on how Obama or Clinton could win 270 electoral votes in November, researched the points I was making, found the math and evidence to support it...

... and it gets ignored in favor of "ONLY CLINTON CAN WIN VERSUS MCCAIN!" with only conjecture; no evidence. Bitter? Maybe. But that's the point I'm making in this diary.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: To Clarify My Point

Link to it here please.

by cottonmouthblog 2008-03-29 09:27AM | 0 recs
by ragekage 2008-03-29 09:29AM | 0 recs
My point is, and I have one...

To repeat what someone else said upstream, I've already spent too much time on this diary.

...spent a few days sketching out a diary on how Obama or Clinton could win 270 electoral votes in November, researched the points I was making, found the math and evidence to support it...

Okay, so how does that really help down ticket candidates?

Have you found a statewide or local candidate you can support? If so, are you helping them raise money and helping them contact new supporters? Have you sponsored a house party for them to introduce that statewide or local candidate to your neighbors? Have you run the computer and printer and created the fundraising mailings? Have you stuffed the envelopes? Have you stamped those envelopes? Do you have a skill that might benefit that statewide or local candidate? Can you type really fast? Do you know accounting procedures like the back of your hand? Are you good at organizing a whole bunch of people? Can you talk and read a phone script?

If your answer to any of the above and more is "Yes!" I guarantee you that some statewide candidate and/or local candidate will greet you with open arms if you show up to help.

If your answer is "no" that's okay, too. You can continue to occupy space and waste bandwidth here like so many others.

As for MyDD and what it has been, what it is, at what it will become? Be the blog, grasshopper.

by Michael Bersin 2008-03-29 11:34AM | 0 recs
Re: My point is, and I have one...

Absolutely; and I've already done so. Even outside my district (note the story about my friend in Maine). And as to your last bit of advice, I agree 100%; that's my purpose in writing this blog.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:52AM | 0 recs
Agreed, this community has been VERY valuable...

... and I'd like to preserve the best aspects.

Thank you for caring about this community and the immidiate future of progressive politics.

We can't win in November without working together.  We need to start that process now.

Thank you.

by cottonmouthblog 2008-03-29 09:23AM | 0 recs
Re: You're Really Spending Too Much Energy

But, as this "this election will have great significance to the future of our nation" isn't it reasonable that people take part in a very active discussion pro et contra regarding our Presidential candidate in this important election?

Have faith. Contrary to what it feels like now, the primary season won't last for ever and there will be plenty of time to devote to supporting our other candidates too.

by DemAC 2008-03-29 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: You're Really Spending Too Much Energy

Absolutely, and I said as much in the diary. But we're doing so at the expense of everything else- that's where we're failing.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: You're Really Spending Too Much Energy

I agree progressive at the expense of democracy is wrong.

Lets count all the votes and admit Hillary is winning.

by DTaylor 2008-03-29 10:52AM | 0 recs
Re: You're Really Spending Too Much Energy

Again, you are doing what I decry above. You're making this into "Yeah, well MY candidate is better!"

But some people cannot be reasoned with.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:12AM | 0 recs
Re: You're Really Spending Too Much Energy

Unfortunately a "very active discussion" requires "discussion" and "debate" which isn't really happening.  Saying my candidate is great and yours will be the downfall of our country doesn't help or convince anyone.  It only serves to poison the progressive well and turn this into far less of a community.

by cottonmouthblog 2008-03-29 09:31AM | 0 recs
I beg to differ

While Hillary Clinton, and to a somewhat lesser extent John Edwards, were very well known among Democrats and voters around the country, the other candidates, Obama, Dodd, Biden et al were not. So it's only natural that a lot of stuff is "discovered" when the candidate suddenly becomes very famous and a household name in the entire Union. While, for instance Rezko and Rev. Wright, was somewhat covered on the local Chicago market, it's all news to the rest of the country. And, obviously, the dealings and connections of the US Senator from Illinois are not so interesting as the dealings and connections of the same person running for President.

This is the natural process of vetting and, while I can understand it is not pleasant while "your" candidate is being vetted (trust me, I know, I'm a Clinton supporter!) it is in the end very good for the Democratic Party to have their candidates thoroughly vetted before the General Election. This requires debate and discussion that, inevitably, will be framed around the issue of "my" candidate is a better candidate than "your" candidate.

This is the democratic process in action. Tedious? Sure. Boring? Sometimes. Repetitive? Hell, yeah. But in the end, it will do us, the party and the country good.

by DemAC 2008-03-29 09:53AM | 0 recs
Re: I beg to differ

I agree with you there, I do. 100%. But my point was if we continue to do that and ignore all the other progressive things we need to remember, it won't matter which candidate is the nominee, or even if we win in November.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 10:01AM | 0 recs
Not that you care about "discussion"

with your link to a site that attacks one candidate for something that newspapers have already determined that candidate is not criminally (or even ethically) linked to.

by cottonmouthblog 2008-03-29 09:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Not that you care about "discussion"

Again I beg to differ. That Presidential candidate Barack Obama's judgment, character and ethics can be questioned due to his connections with Rezko and his partners stands to reason. Naturally, it's all up to the individual how interesting or revealing one finds this issue and what importance it is given.

Anyway, it's all voluntarily you know. No one is forcing you to discuss neither Obama nor Rezko. Feel free to write a diary about any of our blue candidates around the country, I promise you I'll read it!

by DemAC 2008-03-29 10:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

I agree.  

Much of the diaries might as well be RNC opposition research.  

It's too bad.  I remember when I fled here to get information I couldn't get elsewhere (substantative diaries), now I leave rather quickly to avoid upset.  

My family is divided about equally between Obama and Clinton and as normal folks (other than myself) who aren't obsessed with politics they like both candidates.  

It'd be good if we could remember that power can quickly go away if we resort to sqabbling over the little we have.

by cottonmouthblog 2008-03-29 09:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

Precisely. If we elect Obama or Clinton and ignore all the other things we ought to be focusing on, it makes them much less likely to win... and if we don't get a coalition or Blue majority, what does it matter who we elect?

by ragekage 2008-03-29 09:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

This primary is starting to feel like a soap opera, or an accident you just can't turn away from.  I think when it is over (please God, soon) people will return to focusing on the issues and candidates we all are normally concerned with.  For now, this has to play out.

by mady 2008-03-29 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

You are correct. We do have to play out this (excellent analogies!) bit of theater, but let's not do it at the total expense of the other things we should be concerned about.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 09:28AM | 0 recs
In fairness, though

it's not just MyDD, it's the entire Progressive blogosphere to some extent. We're going to be running offense in maybe fifty districts this year for the House alone, there's an outside chance that we may take enough Senate seats to have a filibuster-proof majority, there are critical local elections all over the place, but the big blogs are obsessing on Clinton vs. Obama to a huge extent.

You even see that in the offline sphere. I'd have no problems filling a bus to go to PA for canvassing for Obama. Filling a car to go to NY-29 or NY-26? That would be problematic.

by MBNYC 2008-03-29 09:44AM | 0 recs
Re: In fairness, though


I had great difficulty recruiting Democrats to help with voter turnout in our state elections in 2007 while folks who are not political are actively asking how they can help presidential campaigns. (also mostly for Obama)

by cottonmouthblog 2008-03-29 11:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

When you get right down to it no one candidate is more progressive than the other. To the extent that both Democratic candidates and their supporters "keep the eyes on the prize", (keys to the White House and a majority in Congress) there should be plenty of opportunity to promote a progressive political agenda. Misleading statements about either candidate's position and deliberate slams on their character should have no place. Let s/he who is blameless cast the first stone.

by pan230oh 2008-03-29 09:45AM | 0 recs
MyDD missed historic change

Obama is not the leader of historic change, he is the product of the success of the progressive netroots community. An historic change in the political process has occurred and MYDD has missed it. From a Christian perspective, it is the same as when the Jews missed their Messiah event after having prayed and worked toward it for centuries. Obama is not a Messiah, quite the opposite as this is a bottom up movement. The community selected him as the representative.

The old era of the Clinton's is over. For the old to have power past their time is a disaster. See GWB administration run by the oldest generation (Cheney)far past their time.

America now reclaims its leadership in the world as setting the standards for a new people powered politics free from corrupt money and behind the scenes king makers with the rise to power of Obama. It is sad to see those who are missing this historic moment seeking to crucify the rise of the dream the netroots community has worked toward.


by ImpeachBushCheney 2008-03-29 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD missed historic change

your movement split the democratic party.  More than Obama its actually the dailykos movement behind him that is causing this split.

by DTaylor 2008-03-29 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD missed historic change

How do you figure that?

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:13AM | 0 recs
Its my opinion that many of the so called netroots

are so self-absorbed and self-congratulatory on a certain level that they don't realize how incredibly dissatisfied and embattled 2/3 of the people in this country are. They are, like it or not, also an elite, and perhaps they need a shock to realize that their 'solutions' are designed more for them then for the people they claim to be trying to help.

Thats one of my main complaints about Obama's platform, that he seems to be really out of touch with what people need, and he is coasting on the fact that most Americans don't have the time to learn this for themselves, they are trusting in people like the 'netroots' to tell them. But the 'netroots' right now, in the case of Obama, IS BETRAYING THAT TRUST..

by architek 2008-03-29 02:10PM | 0 recs
You are overestimating yourself

A chronic problem with the left netroots.  Prior to 2006, candidates backed by Daily Kos were rejected resoundingly (I know because I donated to a number of those losing candidates).  The 2006 election results were the products of public dissatisfaction with Republican hubris and mismanagement.  The netroots simply rode along with this wave.  The nation was not joining the leftist netroots revolution.  That is something many of your ilk don't seem to understand.  

by lombard 2008-03-29 11:36AM | 0 recs
Re: MyDD missed historic change

Odd that he is also an advocate of free markets, no universal health care, and has an advisor that is for privatization of Social Security. Doesn't seem much like change to me, except in the direction of the right.

If it's people powered, why no universal health care, why talk of privatizing Social Security?

by splashy 2008-04-02 09:01AM | 0 recs
Diarist's criticisms are ill-conceived...

MyDD has about 1%-2% of the audience size of Daily Kos. That doesn't make the Big Orange better, by any stretch of the imagination. But, that's at the heart of a great deal of criticism that the diarist attempts to use to support his case today.

There's a lot more to it than this, of course. But, IMHO, the diarist is a strong supporter of the Big Orange, as is evident from his frequent pro-Obama posts there.

Generally speaking, the sense I get from this post is that it's ill-conceived--and partly at least--more of a veiled criticism about how there's too much focus at the top of the ticket due to the divisiveness at the national level in our Primary.

Diarist is on record as saying the solution to this problem is to dump Clinton, to allow focus on downticket races. (Although diarist doesn't come out and say that this time.)

This place has something that DKos doesn't have, and that's state-by-state links on the front page. And, there's plenty of local action to be found here. Additionally, in closing, this place is not intended--per recent comments from Jerome et al--to be what DKos is, which (lately) is an outlet intended for everyone. It's not, even though diarist assumes that's the case.

Assertion that this place isn't progressive enough is pretty sad, in light of the "reality-based blog's"--you know, "Brand X's"--recent re-acknowledgement that it's more centrist in nature.

Finally, it's my assertion--personal opinion--that Hillary is actually more progressive in "real life" than the other guy, even though the other guy's words appear to make it appear just the opposite. At the end of the day, Hillary's done a lot more than just vote present on many issues when it's truly mattered. This includes a many-decade's-long commitment of action and results, not just words and empty claims to that effect.

You want fast food blogging, with a large menu? There are plenty of places that cater to the masses. For the forseeable future, however, this blog ain't one of 'em; nor does it pretend to be something that it's not. And, it is these last few words that, IMHO, are the real difference between this place and the other joint.

by bobswern 2008-03-29 10:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Diarist's criticisms are ill-conceived...

Don't think you read the diary.

I don't think I'm a big supporter of Daily Kos since I didn't even know it existed a short time ago. I've only lurked on Daily Kos, so I don't understand how you decided I "frequently" post there. You obviously have ignored my past posts here, at MyDD. You say I go on the record demanding we dump Clinton, and then say I never come out and say so.

You're missing the point entirely, sir, and doing so in a very unfortunate way. We have links to other states? Outstanding. That's great. They're not being used is my point. We have all of these links, but nobody seems to care much.

Your response is hey, who cares, we're here to be a pro-Hillary site, nothing more. I disagree. We started as more, we should aspire to be more. Or we become as bad as those we ridicule.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 10:39AM | 0 recs
False claims of objectivity...

       Terrible (4+ / 0-)

     Recommended by:
      Kwaidan, Mile High Progressive, teyigdhk, zerzan

     I think that Clinton represents everything wrong with the Democratic Party.  Her on the ticket means not turning the page on her triangulation, militarism, and corporatism.  It counters all of the reasons I support Obama.  

     And besides, you conveniently left out the rather tricky question of Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama.

by RageKage on Wed Mar 05, 2008 at 01:59:10 AM EDT

by bobswern 2008-03-29 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: False claims of objectivity...


I don't go by Ragekage on DailyKos, that moniker was already taken! You fail, sir!

Now, if you'd like to see my REAL profile, I'd be happy to show you. It'll prove I'm right.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:01AM | 0 recs
You do go by "ragekage" on...

...your own webpage, though?

by bobswern 2008-03-29 11:16AM | 0 recs
Re: You do go by "ragekage" on...

What website?

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:18AM | 0 recs
Re: You do go by "ragekage" on...


That website?

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:22AM | 0 recs
Chauvinistic much?

From diarist's muchopolitico blogspot page:

Sunday, February 3, 2008
A recurring question:

Why would anyone vote for Hillary?


I took the position that people vote for Hillary because she is woman, and/or because she is a Clinton, and most importantly, because they DON'T KNOW ANY BETTER.


Here is an excerpt, but it really requires a full read:
I think of how I would love to be part of the wave of enthusiasm for this smart, charismatic man, of how he wipes the floor with Clinton as an orator...

Emphasis on "man" is mine.

by bobswern 2008-03-29 11:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Chauvinistic much?

Bob, what are you talking about? I've never been to this blog before. Now you're just trolling about for people who share the same moniker as I.

I could Google "bobswern" and filter through your DailyKos and MyDD posts and find something stupid someone else had said who happens to share your name, too. This is grasping at straws; you've already lost your credibility.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:17AM | 0 recs
A confused &quot;ragekage?&quot;

You started blogging around the same time on both sites, only a few weeks ago (unless you were blogging under a different name), correct?

And, I've got to say, you appear to be a little confused, judging from the title of one of your diaries here, from a little over a week ago:

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/19/1115 3/8127#readmore

So, completely/diametrically loving and disliking this place at the same time, depending upon which week it was?

Same diarist's name on Kos and MyDD, with diaries commencing around the same time.

Both being pro-Obama...and then...

Two completely opposite sides of a position in the course of eight days, based upon your diary last week and the one here.

So, it would follow for an observer to say that you appear to be a wee bit confused.

by bobswern 2008-03-29 11:27AM | 0 recs
Or was last week's diary here...

...written by "another person" using your screen name (here), too?

Because last week you loved this place...this week...not so much, according to today's diary.

http://www.mydd.com/story/2008/3/19/1115 3/8127#readmore

by bobswern 2008-03-29 11:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Or was last week's diary here...

Things can change in a week, and I still far prefer MyDD to DailyKos.

But, alright, enough's enough. I gave you enough rope, and you hung yourself. Instead of asking me who I was on DailyKos, you conjectured... poorly. Here's a link.

http://www.dailykos.com/user/Moo%20Means %20Hello

Try that on for size. I can understand your concern I was that guy, and being disingenuous, but you could have ASKED me first. If I was, your point would have been well made; if not, you wouldn't have looked foolish.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 11:50AM | 0 recs
My sense is that both the my DD and KOS...

communities would have preferred Edwards and could have stayed united against any primary or general election opponent for ideals as in your face and starkly contrasted as his were.  We are now faced with choosing from two less than progressive, better than the alternative, candidates onto whom we project our hopes for a better America and planet.  These projections are frequently jaded and unrealistic, but they become our mantra as we get closer to the election, making us feel better about our decision. In the end it's all about the SCOTUS and how our legislation gets interpreted into enforceable law. The writing is on the wall, Obama is slowly wrapping this up, but were she to pull this out of her ass and get the machine to overturn the delgate count, I will still vote for her over McPain.  I will pray she does not run the country like she did her campaign, hopefully she can learn from the experience.  Here's an olive leaf to the HRC supporters.........Either candidate over McPain, unconditionally.

by LoneStarLefty 2008-03-29 10:09AM | 0 recs
Hell, have the whole 'branch' leaves and all!

by LoneStarLefty 2008-03-29 10:21AM | 0 recs
Diarist's headline starts off...

...a diary which is both wrong in its assumptions and little more than an extension of the diarist's trollish behavior here of late, further supported by  diarist's pro-Obama diaries over at DKos.

Frankly, based upon my observation of diarist here in last few weeks, this person appears to be on a mission which appears to be less-constructive than most, in general, IMHO.

Saying this place is "failing," when audience-size is growing at almost three-times the rate of "the other brand" further demonstrates the underlying purposes and intention of the diarist, as well.

Starting at the greeting (the headline), the diarist puts forth assumptions that are just downright bogus and disaffecting.

More of the same..."ssdd"...personally, I'm not buying these "woof tickets," and I suspect many others here share this opinion.

by bobswern 2008-03-29 10:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Diarist's headline starts off...


Explain my trollish behavior; go ahead, call me out on it. Why not link to a few of my many pro-Obama diaries at DKos for evidence (hint- you can't, they don't exist, and never did). Ignore my point that it's not website traffic that demonstrates success or not.

You could have simply disagreed with me, and done so rightly (since it's your opinion), but instead, you've brought this bogus conjecture and outright fabrication, and thus ruined any chance of actually making your point.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 10:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

Think its bad here? It's worse on the DailyKos. That's why I've fled to here in the last couple of weeks. Compared to the DailyKos, this place is a sanctuary. I can't write a comment on the Kos without getting a comment that I'm stupid, on drugs or am poor. (Unfortunately, some people think all poor people are dumb and hope they will vote Republican).

But I'm here, and hopefully this site can attract more bloggers who want to have a good conversation about the election and the problems this world and country face.

by Zzyzzy 2008-03-29 10:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

As I said, I've rotated between being for Obama and being for Hillary. I do not dislike either one. I've based my support on who I think is the most electable. I really don't think there is a lot of policy difference between them.

I don't like the trashing of Hillary that takes place on DKOS. Hillary is a fellow Democrat- she is not the enemy. I also don't like it when I see Obama trashed here for the same reason.

by mndemocrat 2008-03-29 10:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

I can't speak to bad or worse on DailyKos, I never got to see it before the "split". But we need to be able to work towards the sorts of things I explained above, and not concentrate on just "Hillary/Obama sucks/rules!" stuff.

I agree 100% with your second point, but that's exactly what we're lacking.

by ragekage 2008-03-29 10:48AM | 0 recs
I have a feeling if Obama wins

the Democratic nomination that MYDD will become a pro-McCain site.

by puma 2008-03-29 10:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

I've rotated between supporting obama and Hillary the last few months.

I read diaries on both MYDD and DKOS. I learn most people on DKOS are for Obama and most on MYDD are for Hillary.

I wish both communities had a mix of Barack and Hillary supporters -

by mndemocrat 2008-03-29 10:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

It wouldn't suprise me, if half of the diary writers here are Republicans. Nearly every diary is some antiObama rant. Written by people with too mucxh time on their hands.

Where is the editorial overisght to check these wild diary entries?

by KathyM 2008-03-29 10:36AM | 0 recs
Perhaps you are correct

that half of the people here are probably Republicans.

by puma 2008-03-29 10:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Why The MyDD Community is Failing

Some of the front diarists have been fanning the discord with open attacks on not just Obama, but those who prefer him, for some illogical reason.

by Liberal Avenger 2008-03-29 11:09AM | 0 recs

this has been true for some time now. I've been here for well over a year and have seen MYDD morph from a progressive cutting edge website into a site dedicated to swiftboating the likely Democratic Presidential nominee. Who needs Republicans when we've got Democrats willing to to do the swiftboating for them?

by Mystylplx 2008-03-29 11:41AM | 0 recs
I've read a lot of comments by you

and I have to say if you are what passes for a "progressive" then I want to be whatever opposite of you is.

by LatinoVoter 2008-03-29 01:29PM | 0 recs


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