Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Short, sweet, and brutal:

Palin talked about what women expect from women leaders; how she took charge in Alaska during a political scandal that threatened to unseat the state's entire Republican power structure; and her feelings about Hillary Clinton. (She said she felt kind of bad she couldn't support a woman, but didn't like Clinton's "whining.")

You go, PUMAs! Show us you're really cutting off your nose to spite your face!

:)

Tags: Hillary, Palin (all tags)

Comments

90 Comments

Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

can you give a source for the quote please

by TruthMatters 2008-08-29 10:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

It's from Newseek:

http://www.newsweek.com/id/156190

by johnrarch 2008-08-29 11:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Basically, she acknowledges that Hillary and other female politicians are treated unfairly by the media. But then she says women should just shut up and accept it that they're treated unfairly. Talk about anti-feminist...

Q: When you look at coverage, when you listen to the conversations, what do you see?

Palin: Well you know I think fair or unfair, the... and I do think it is a more concentrated criticism that Hillary gets on so many fronts. I think that's unfortunate. But fair or unfair, I think she does herself a disservice to even mention it, really. I mean, you gotta plow through that. You have to know what you're getting into. Which, I say this with all due respect to Hillary Clinton, and to her experience, and to her passion for changing the status quo also, but when I hear a statement like that coming from a woman candidate, with any kind of perceived whine about that excess criticism or you know, maybe a sharper microscope put on her, I think that doesn't do us any good, women in politics, women in general wanting to progress this country. I don't think it bodes well for her, a statement like that, because again, fair or unfair it is there. I think that's reality. And I think it's a given, I think people can just accept that she is going to be under that sharper microscope. So be it. I mean, work harder, prove yourself to an even greater degree that you're capable, that you're gonna be the best candidate, and that of course is what she wants us to believe at this point. And so it bothers me a little bit hearing her bring that attention to herself on that level.

(I'd be very curious to find out exactly what statement by Hillary she was referring to).

by Hatch 2008-08-29 11:40AM | 0 recs
Good lord!

She can't even frame a coherant thought.

by Mystylplx 2008-08-29 05:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Good lord!

Oh stop!

by trixta 2008-08-29 10:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

ALL I CAN SAY..

Thank fucking God he didn't pick:

  1. Kay Bailey Hutchison
  2. Condolessa Rice
  3. Elizabeth Dole
  4. Olympia Snowe
  5. Susan Collins

Thank fucking GOD!

by johnrarch 2008-08-29 11:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

KBH would have actually been scary.  Good thing her hate for fetuses got in the way.

by mnl1012 2008-08-29 12:00PM | 0 recs
Have you ever seen KBH on the stump?

Pressure is not KBH's friend. She would've been ripped to shreds by Biden in the first five minutes of the debate, and that's if they hadn't jettisoned her after her 19th (nervous breakdown) miscue under the heat of the press' kliegs.

I will give you that Palin is much easier, however. Her inexperience isn't even sitting well with the beltway blowhards. And then there's the unbelievable statement from her communications director to a reporter from the Alaska Daily News about private emails in her office the other day that sounds way too familiar.

http://community.adn.com/adn/node/129950

by Poor Yorick 2008-08-29 01:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

I seriously was scared that he was going to pick KBH.  McCain-Hutchison probably would have been the toughest possible ticket to beat.

by Dreorg 2008-08-29 01:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Don't forget Rep. Nancy Johnson (R-CT).

by AZphilosopher 2008-08-29 02:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

You are so right.  Hutchison and Snowe, in particular, would have been real trouble.  This pick just makes him look careless and impulsive.

by Thaddeus 2008-08-29 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

As a Hillary supporter, that blurb is interesting.

Where'd it come from?

by wasanyonehurt 2008-08-29 10:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

What do you think of our Democratic ticket?

by IowaMike 2008-08-29 10:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

I'm great with it now.  Though I would have preferred Biden at the head of the ticket.

My dream ticket would have been Clinton-Biden or Biden-Clinton as a second choice.

My overarching thought (pretty bitter actually) is how could Obama be the custodian of allowing the Republicans the position in history to possibly get the first woman elected on a ticket with what Democrats throughout history have done for equal rights for all. . . I will do what I can simply to prevent that from occurring.  He should have picked her, end of story.

by wasanyonehurt 2008-08-29 10:50AM | 0 recs
Palin not ready
The republicans have 2 simple defenses for the "Palin not ready" meme
  • Democrats never think that women are ready
  • Sure Palin is not ready, but neither is Obama & Palin is atleast 1 step away from becoming a CiC.
by gaf 2008-08-29 11:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready

Our response:

Obama has shown better judgement in the past than McCain and has actually shown any position, unlike Palin.  And Obama has Joe Biden to back him up.  Who backs up Palin if she has to step in?

by TheUnknown285 2008-08-29 11:18AM | 0 recs
He showed better judgement when he did not

have to make a decision. He did not have to vote for Iraq war resolution.

by indydem99 2008-08-29 11:37AM | 0 recs
Re: He showed better judgement when he did not

He didn't have to take a position on it at all.  Nevertheless he did.

by Jess81 2008-08-29 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready

Showed good judgment in not picking Hillary?

I think not.

by dtaylor2 2008-08-29 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready

Judgement is soooo subjective.

by hairspray 2008-08-29 09:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready

They've been pushing on TV the idea that she has more "executive" experience as a governor of Alaska than Biden and Obama have.

...I don't really think that one will fly, but it'll be interesting to see how all of this plays out.

by randomscientist 2008-08-29 11:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready

Personally, I'd respond by posting beauty queen pics.  Seems to take the air out of the Republican's sails, (at least the Repubes here in the office).

They're as freakin' baffled as we are, honestly.

by Stipes 2008-08-29 12:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready
How about just list all of the cities that have a larger population than Alaska? And list all the cities that have a larger economy than Alaska?
And actually, Obama has as much "executive" experience as Palin, as he has led this campaign for 18 months (about the same amount of time she has been governor.)
He's done a pretty good job. What have we heard lately about Alaska?
Oh yeah, indictments and corruption.  
by EvilAsh 2008-08-29 12:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready
Well, that would fly until you realize that the Alaskan legislature only meets two times a year.
Also, Palin just passed into law the highest budget in state history.
Bush was a two term governor of Texas, but that legislature only work about 150 days out of the year.
by skohayes 2008-08-29 01:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin not ready

So the Republican response to "Palin is not ready" is "yeah, we know?"

gaf, you missed your calling: you should be a Republican strategist.  You'll earn your nickname in no time at all.

by Jess81 2008-08-29 01:37PM | 0 recs
Um, sorry, no.

He picked who he felt most comfortable about governing with. Someone he could trust, someone who has a personal story that compliments his own and is genuinely good.  Frankly the Clinton family story is tough for some to swallow.  Contrast Biden's story, particularly regarding the tragic end of his first marriage, with McCain. Okay, whatever. Biden was Obama's choice to make and he had to make his decision because surprise surprise he won.

And it is a brave decision because it would have been a landslide guaranteed for Dems with Obama/Clinton or Clinton/Obama.

by Iago 2008-08-29 12:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

"My overarching thought (pretty bitter actually) is how could Obama be the custodian of allowing the Republicans the position in history to possibly get the first woman elected on a ticket..."

No. Democrats still have "the position in history to possibly get the first woman elected on a ticket..." Remember Geraldine Ferraro?

by Mystylplx 2008-08-29 05:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

http://www.newsweek.com/id/156190

by thatpurplestuff 2008-08-29 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

It is from Newsweek.  Good find, ragekage

http://www.newsweek.com/id/156190

by mydoubled 2008-08-29 10:24AM | 0 recs
What did Obama say?

I can't remember...

by Wiseprince 2008-08-29 10:29AM | 0 recs
Re: What did Obama say?

The speech was just last night.

by IowaMike 2008-08-29 10:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Again, good catch.  I checked the Newsweek site, complete with video - it doesn't have Palin saying "Hillary's just whining," per se, but it does have her saying that she doesn't like it when a woman candidate says things that could be construed as being a "whine."  Take it for what you will - it doesn't look all that damning to me, but it doesn't do Palin any favors, especially in trying to overtly reach out to Hillary's supporters.

by robitude 2008-08-29 10:32AM | 0 recs
Noted by Rachel Maddow

First McCain's chief economic advisor calls America a "nation of whiners" and then it's revealed that his VP pick called Hillary Clinton, during her historic campaign, a whiner.

Well done!

by BobzCat 2008-08-29 07:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Palin's comment doesn't bother me one iota.  It is your trashing of Sen Clinton and her husband during and after the primaries that will keep me from voting for your BROs-before-HOs candidate!

BTW, it is not Hillary's job to keep propping up your Empty Suit.

I look foward to a Hillary-vs.-Palin presidential election in 2012!

No Way, No How, NObama!

by trixta 2008-08-29 10:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Rage,

This pick is a fucking disaster.

God, I love it!

They pulled a Dan Quayle.  She's killed the inexperience attack meme.  She's tightly tied to the Big Oil meme.  She's a far right, base shoring up pick.

Next we will have her old Beauty Queen pictures swarming the intertubes.

This is freakin' fantastic.  McSame pulled a boner.  Beautiful.

by Stipes 2008-08-29 10:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

So this is good for us?

OK, then let's stop whining about it and move on to MCCain.

by switching sides2 2008-08-29 11:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Sarah Palin:

Beauty Queen, or VP?

You decide.  

Actually, the MSM has already decided.  Beauty Queen pics on cable news, Baby!

by Stipes 2008-08-29 11:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

cool, then we have nothing to worry about!

Be happy!

:)

by switching sides2 2008-08-29 12:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

I am happy.  I'm not complaining at all!

I am singing in my office, right now.

McCain screwed up, and I'm doing a little jig.

by Stipes 2008-08-29 12:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

And the Pod Dems pulled a George W  Bush! Obama = Bush, just two sides of the same fascist coin.  Neo-libera/Neo-Con--take your pick!

by trixta 2008-08-29 10:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

I can't wait until I see Kristen Wiig putting on the accent to play Sarah Palin, and I suspect Wiig can't wait either.

by vcalzone 2008-08-29 10:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Round One: Change vs. Experience

Winner: Obama

Round Two: Change vs. Change

Winner Obama   McBush is NOT Change Palin is NOT change Republicans are NOT Change

by venician 2008-08-29 10:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

It's not about change OR experience, it's about judgment, those two factors simply inform that underlying quality.

Mccain, today, has shown us that he is utterly devoid of judgment, and instead is more than willing to allow his right-wing blogger campaign advisors to make his decisions for him.

by vcalzone 2008-08-29 10:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

She's not Romney, she's worse. Because at least Romney we knew could govern and handle complex issues.

by vcalzone 2008-08-29 10:50AM | 0 recs
Govern

Oh the delicious irony - Obama supporters talking about lack of experience, governing experience & "not ready to be vice Commander-in-Chief"

by gaf 2008-08-29 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

I think of it as: "taking the Republicans argument away from them and beating them over the head with it."

Delicious indeed!

by PhilFR 2008-08-29 11:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

Wanna go through it again? We have Obama, ON RECORD, about Iraq in 2002. Now your turn.

by vcalzone 2008-08-29 11:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

Nothing wrong with that.  They've been hammering the idea on our candidate for a while now and its just desserts.  It's "what you say don't mean shit" writ large.  I don't look at it as a complaint about Palin; its a complaint about McCain's and the Republican's rhetorical strategies up to this point.

by doss 2008-08-29 11:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

Oh the hypocrisy! Palin during her "speech" mentions the historic aspect of her candidacy happening on the anniversary of women winning the right to vote, and yet she wants to DENY women the right to CHOOSE.

by venician 2008-08-29 11:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

Hell, she wants to outlaw abortion, even in cases of rape and incest victims.  The woman is a to the wayyyyy right of McCain.

by whognu 2008-08-29 01:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

Where has she gone on record that she wants to outlaw abortion?  I read a quote from her saying she would not use a person's personal beliefs in government. She is pro-life for herself.  We have a few pro-life senators like Casey of PA for example. Those GOP women in PA are going to love her.  Liberal women will not vote for McCain because of Sarah, but the conservative men and women of that region do not care about that issue.

by hairspray 2008-08-29 09:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/31/us/pol itics/31abortion.html?_r=1&oref=slog in

I won't fill this with a laundry list of links, so here is one that confirms her position and platform.  No abortion, even for incest and rape victims.

by whognu 2008-08-31 08:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

I know what the GOP platform says and has for years.  That doesn't convince me that she subscribes to overturning Roe.  In fact her Supreme court appointmnent last month is a down the middle moderate and well qualified for the position, completely the opposite of Bush's picks.  I don't think the GOP govern well and should not be elected, but I think we should not make assumptions about people if there is no evidence of that.

by hairspray 2008-09-01 08:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

I know what the GOP platform says and has for years.  That doesn't convince me that she subscribes to overturning Roe.  In fact her Supreme court appointmnent last month is a down the middle moderate and well qualified for the position, completely the opposite of Bush's picks.  I don't think the GOP govern well and should not be elected, but I think we should not make assumptions about people if there is no evidence of that.

by hairspray 2008-09-01 08:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Govern

Gaf, you just admitted yourself that Palin wasn't ready.  So what's your problem?

by Jess81 2008-08-29 01:41PM | 0 recs
by robitude 2008-08-29 11:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Hey, Ragekage, is your screen name a reference to the Smashing Pumpkins?  If so, then not only are you a good investigative blogger, but you have good taste in music.

by TheUnknown285 2008-08-29 11:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

This Smashing Pumpkins fan concurs.

by robitude 2008-08-29 11:32AM | 0 recs
I like the pumpkins too, but

I read it as a Tenacious D reference, which I also like, perhaps even more in this context :)

by kydoc2 2008-08-29 11:42AM | 0 recs
Re: I like the pumpkins too, but

I always have the "D" in mind too when I think of Ragekage.

by fogiv 2008-08-29 11:50AM | 0 recs
Re: I like the pumpkins too, but

I think of the Pumpkins' song "Bullet with Butterfly Wings," which includes the famous line,  "Despite all my rage, I'm still just a rat in a cage."

by TheUnknown285 2008-08-29 12:03PM | 0 recs
It occurs to me...

That if in the course of a VP debate if Gov. Palin were to bring up Sen. Clinton and her historic candidacy, this statement on "whining" is something Sen. Biden could bring up.

Were Gov. Palin to go even further and compare her candidacy to that of Sen. Clinton then I say ol' Joe lower the boom and use the classic:

"Gov. Palin, I served with Sen. Clinton, I know Sen. Clinton, you madam are no Hillary Clinton. Not even close."

Oooooh... I can only hope.

(with apologies to Bentsen)

by CanuckinMA 2008-08-29 11:12AM | 0 recs
I was just thinking that.

Lloyd was so awesome there.

by Dracomicron 2008-08-29 11:16AM | 0 recs
Re: It occurs to me...

Wasserman Schultz already used it th morning.  Sorry , don't have a link.

by Fluffy Puff Marshmallow 2008-08-29 12:32PM | 0 recs
Re: It occurs to me...

Almost restores my faith in DWS.

by TheUnknown285 2008-08-29 02:16PM | 0 recs
Whining

Hillary's doing precious little whining these days, Sarah.

by Dracomicron 2008-08-29 11:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Whining

No, she's probably laughing her butt off right about now.

by switching sides2 2008-08-29 11:29AM | 0 recs
I agree

She's laughing that wonderful laugh at what a maroon McCain is. And laughing at the fact that she's finally able to separate herself from the lunatic fringe of support that hijacked her life for their own satisfaction.

by Poor Yorick 2008-08-29 01:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Great catch, Rage.  Something tells me either Maddow or Olberman (or both) will be running this quote heavily tonight.

by fogiv 2008-08-29 11:52AM | 0 recs
Hillary worked to oust political criminals too

She helped remove the man who once was the biggest GOP crook of all time, Tricky Dick Nixon, from the WH.

Hillary not only has more courage and brains, she doesn't back GOP criminals.

by Betsy McCall 2008-08-29 12:53PM | 0 recs
PALIN IS NO HILLARY CLINTON.

I know Hillary Clinton, and Palin is NO Hillary Clinton. I did not intern for Hillary's Senate Office in DC because of her name, her gender, her state. I campaigned for her because I saw her in action all those years ago, and most of us who remember the 90s grew up with her as our feminist icon.

I dont have anything against Palin because I dont know her. But i disagree with everything she stands for, because they stand in the way of everything Hillary has fought for in her life.

As of just 24 months ago, Palin agreed with Obama's plan. Now it's been scrubbed from her website.
See Cached version:
http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:wbC GTUeD1r0J:www.gov.state.ak.us/news.php%3 Fid%3D1384+palin,+obama,+energy&hl=e n&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us

by iamold 2008-08-29 01:06PM | 0 recs
History in the making

In reference to "whiner" -  IMO, accusations of racism toward Bill and Hillary Clinton are a lot worse than being called a whiner.

This is getting interesting. I didn't think McCain would make such a bold move. Of course, Palin doesn't replace Clinton, but whether it's Obama/Biden or McCain/Palin, history will be made. Thats great.

by soyousay 2008-08-29 01:36PM | 0 recs
Re: History in the making

"accusations of racism toward Bill and Hillary Clinton are a lot worse than being called a whiner."

Do you have a quote to back that up?

by Jess81 2008-08-29 01:42PM | 0 recs
Playing the race card.

Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign has prepared a detailed memo listing various instances in which it perceived Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign to have deliberately played the race card in the Democratic primary. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12 /obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

by soyousay 2008-08-29 02:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Playing the race card.

So preparing a memo in which they allege how the Clinton campaign played the race card is the same thing as calling them racists?

You do understand that someone who does not see the world through a racist's eyes can, theoretically, understand that others do and thus play the race card to their advantage?  I am not currently contending that they did so, but the two actions are not the same at all, though similar.

Racism is a belief structure.  Playing the race card is a tactic.  You need not be a racist to use it.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-08-29 03:16PM | 0 recs
Re: Playing the race card.

stop back-pedaling. Obama campaign and supporters went on a racism accusation rampage. Mentioning Reverend Wright was considered racists here and media matters. It's just too funny that you are in denial.

by soyousay 2008-08-29 05:11PM | 0 recs
Whatever

That "tactic" doesn't go over any better than racism itself. Obama played the race card.

by soyousay 2008-08-29 06:07PM | 0 recs
Re: History in the making

Katrina Tears.

by dtaylor2 2008-08-29 02:53PM | 0 recs
Progressive site proof

Someone got rid of my progressive site proof so here it is again

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/01/12 /obama-camps-memo-on-clin_n_81205.html

by soyousay 2008-08-30 04:12AM | 0 recs
Just wondering

Is the primary ever going to end for you? Did you get so addicted to the energy and conflict and confrontation of those months that you need to keep reliving it over and over at this site?

Or are you just trying to keep alive your own resentments, and keep them stirred up in others?

Do you really think pushing these same arguments over and over is constructive in some way? Do you think it's going to bring about some kind of change in attitude or behavior among anyone that matters? Or do you just like hearing yourself talk?

I mean, seriously: what's your purpose here? I mean that sincerely. Because this is rapidly getting very, very old.

by BobzCat 2008-08-29 07:21PM | 0 recs
His/her purpose is to make it rapidly grow

old, then to keep doing it.

And to make statements that serve the purpose of incrementally lowering the Dem chances in Nov.

Jerome Armstrong likes that on his site, because he also wants to be proven right by destroying the Dem ticket.  Otherwise he would do something about it.

by chrisblask 2008-08-29 08:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Just wondering

Is the primary ever going to end for you?
The ending of the primary doesn't change what was said and done. The Republicans know this; they've been using clips from Biden and Clinton against Obama.
Did you get so addicted to the energy and conflict and confrontation of those months that you need to keep reliving it over and over at this site?
Being a centrist must make me more able to see all points of view.
Or are you just trying to keep alive your own resentments, and keep them stirred up in others?
Since I'm not star struck like you, I can acknowledge that McCain made a great strategic move. Does that mean I'm personally going to vote for McCain? No it doesn't.
Or do you just like hearing yourself talk?
Is there a way to verbally talk on here? :D
mean, seriously: what's your purpose here? I mean that sincerely. Because this is rapidly getting very, very old.
Political discussion and opinion. What's yours? Cheerleader I suspect.

by soyousay 2008-08-30 04:02AM | 0 recs
Shorter version
No, I won't let it.
Yes, I am, because I need to.
Yes, pretty much.
Not really, but what the hell, it amuses me.
No, I don't really care.
Yes, my words are pretty to read.
Propping up my self-esteem by acting important on a blog.
by BobzCat 2008-08-30 06:20AM | 0 recs
simple

That's simple thinking. Good for you.

by soyousay 2008-08-30 01:24PM | 0 recs
Re: simple

I calls em as i sees em.

by BobzCat 2008-08-30 08:21PM | 0 recs
Re: simple

So do I. You're simple minded.

by soyousay 2008-08-30 09:11PM | 0 recs
Re: simple

See, it's that kind of thing that makes you a classic internet troll. You can't be anything but insulting, every chance you get.

I do hope this activity makes you feel better about yourself. I suggest, though, that spending time outdoors will be much better for your self-esteem than sitting in a dark room at a computer, irritating people with the same old bitter comments day after day. Really, you should try it.

Now, you may have the last word.

by BobzCat 2008-08-31 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: simple

See, it's that kind of thing that makes you a classic internet troll.
You must be one too then.

by soyousay 2008-08-31 07:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

To ragekage:  Palin did not call Hillary a whiner.  Read the transcript.

by hairspray 2008-08-29 09:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Palin: Hillary is a "whiner"

Palin may have accused HRC of whining, but the Ozombies used every misogynistic, sexist, and race-baiting trick in the book against her.  It is so sweet that HRC is your hero now.  

Use the same scorched-earth strategy against Palin at your peril.  The world is watching.

BTW, your BROs-before-HOs candidate will lose to McCain in November.  

by trixta 2008-08-29 10:44PM | 0 recs

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