Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

Per Ben Smith of Politico:

Clark spokesman: No Clinton call

A spokesman for General Wes Clark, Erick Mullen, this morning denied reports that the staunch Clinton supporter had called her last night and pushed her to drop out.

"General Clark has been on business travel and certainly did not make any such call to Senator Clinton," Mullen said. 508/Clark_spokesman_No_Clinton_call.html

Tags: Electability, Endorsements, foreign policy experience, Hillary Clinton for President, Wesley Clark (all tags)



Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

That doesn't mean he is still for her.

I know Clark, he's the kind of guy that hates this part of politics/media, and I could see him denying it just to not further fuel it.

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-07 09:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

Oh poo, you're just upset that BO lost Indiana.

By the way, hillary picked up a new SD from North Carolina today.

by Potter 2008-05-07 09:20AM | 0 recs
now me, I'm just upset that Clark won't be on the


I voted for Obama, because he was better with the strategy.

If clinton had used her resources more effectively, she could have gotten my vote.

Wargamers for Obama!

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 09:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

No, I am ecstatic that we finally have a nominee.

You have no idea how happy I am today,  

Smile, its contagious!

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-07 09:23AM | 0 recs
WHAT? Obama withdrew?

How cool!  President Hillary Clinton.


by CoyoteCreek 2008-05-07 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: WHAT? Obama withdrew?

Care to make a wager on who will be the nominee?

by rhetoricus 2008-05-07 09:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

And LOST the support of GEORGE MCGOVERN


by venician 2008-05-07 09:30AM | 0 recs
Just what Obama needed...

that McGovern touch. :-)

by cosbo 2008-05-07 09:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

McGovern isnt even a SD at this moment.

by Jerome Armstrong 2008-05-07 09:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

You're not saying he only mattered when he supported Hillary are you?

by RussTC3 2008-05-07 09:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

Of course he is. That will be the theme for the week. Any S.D. or prominent Dem. to support Obama will be marginalized.

by venician 2008-05-07 10:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

You people imagine scenarios in your mind and then convince yourselves it is fact. Very scary.

by gunner 2008-05-07 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

I doubt Clark supported her rhetoric of Aggression with her Obliterate Iran comments.

We need Clark, because we need a liberal Military guy who will look out for OUR TROOPS.

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-07 09:26AM | 0 recs
It will be Jim Webb

..pulls the working class Catholic vote, dontcha know.

I was a Clarkie and begged him to run. But he's backing the wrong horse now, and it will cost him VP.

by rhetoricus 2008-05-07 09:36AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

Oh yeah... just what we need a team of political rookies who have not even finished one term in the senate.

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

Secretary of the Navy under Reagan is hardly a "rookie." And how many terms in DC has Clark served?

by rhetoricus 2008-05-07 09:41AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

Webb is a rookie and is much to "conservative" for me.

And.... did I ask for Clark to be VP? But... Clark has MUCH more experience then Webb in so many different ways.

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:44AM | 0 recs
Any soldier above the rank of Colonel

has political experience. We ain't in a total war, that's the only way to get promoted.

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 09:51AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

Clark has Zero political experience.
He is a soldier by trade.

wasn't Edwards a rookie in the Senate 2004.

I would Hillary and Obama are rookies too, except that Obama served in the Illinois Senate before that.

Lets keep it Midwest!

Obama/McCaskill 2008!

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-07 09:44AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

You are wrong...

Clark has plenty of "political" experiance being a diplomat of sorts throughout a big part of his military life and as the head of NATO forces.

Edwards had at least a FULL term in the Senate.

Hillary a rookie? HA!

McCaskill is a light weight who would be chewed up.

The ONLY ticket that would truly "unite" is Obama and Clinton.

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:48AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

Let me restate, I love Clark.

when I say political experience, i mean running in an election, beating your oponenet,  then being a representative to your voters.

Thats a politician.

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-07 10:27AM | 0 recs
It will never happen

The only people who would more likely vote Obama if Hillary is VP are liberal Democratic women, especially older ones.

Too many people voted for Hillary because she was a a hawk on Israel, not-the-black-guy, not-the-guy-with-terrorist-sounding-name s, the one who wouldn't threaten the establishment, and the person with insider connections.

Not a one of them will necessarily support Hillary with Obama on the ticket.

by rhetoricus 2008-05-07 10:41AM | 0 recs
where do you

pull this shit from?

Remember I am a Hillary Clinton supporter. I think I am familiar with MORE Clinton supporters than you are. What you say is BS!

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:18PM | 0 recs
Re: where do you

ROFL. You have been in a stuffy Hillary sound-chamber WAAAAY too long.

Newsflash: the reason your candidate is not only FLAT BROKE but deeply in the red, is that so many of her voters were simply casting protest votes against Obama. In other words, they didn't care enough to actually send cash to help her win. They will vote McCain in November.

Consider the huge percentage of whites in PA who said that race was a main issue for them in determining their vote. Do ya really think those will be voting Clinton if Obama is at the top of the ticket?

Hillary said herself that she pulls the "Reagan Democrat, WHITE vote." That's because she's not the black guy. They don't love Hillary enough to vote for her if the black guy is at the top of the ticket. If you are blind to this dynamic by now, there's no helping you.

by rhetoricus 2008-05-09 07:40AM | 0 recs

but... you deserve nothing more than the following.

You are a fucking arrogant asshole.... and a fucking idiot.

bye clown.

by kevin22262 2008-05-09 11:57AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

as opposed to more of the same

by johnny sexton 2008-05-07 09:46AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

and that means what?

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:49AM | 0 recs
Re: It will be Jim Webb

As you know or don't know The Clintons ar "Washington Insiders" Who owe and grant favors for political, and especially monetary gain, so we will hear the same names bandied about whenever her name surfaces. Maybe, and I could  be wrong, because we we might want the same crap to continue, just maybe, we need full scale change, and just maybe although I doubt it, some of the new people will have our best interests at heart.We don't need a female GWB in the White House.

by johnny sexton 2008-05-07 09:57AM | 0 recs
Your comment

is crap for so many reason. The only one I will address is YOU comparing Hillary Clinton to gdub!


Obama is NOT clean and tidy. He IS a politician FIRST.

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:16PM | 0 recs
Webb is a newcomer to the party

Some Dems, especially "downscale" voters, value paying dues and loyalty, and need to see a track record.

These voters have seen bosses with ivy League credentials who could bring it, and many who were skating on their school name.

by catfish1 2008-05-07 09:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Webb is a newcomer to the party

"downscale"? What does that mean?

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:45AM | 0 recs
The whole media meme

you know - if you make under $50k you must be a "low information" voter.

by catfish1 2008-05-07 09:48AM | 0 recs
Re: The whole media meme

crap like that makes me sick.

I know people who makes lots and have nice degrees and don't know shit about what is going on. I also know other who are the opposite and know a lot about what is going on.

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:50AM | 0 recs
No argument there.

You could have a Phd, be a teacher making less than $50k, and lumped into this group which is often presumed to be ignorant and racist.

by catfish1 2008-05-07 09:53AM | 0 recs
somehow I don't believe that's what they're saying

but i do believe if you're running two jobs and going to school, your ability to keep track of politics is going to be limited.

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 09:52AM | 0 recs
Or you have street smarts

and are closer to the real pain people see.

I grew up in upper-middle class suburbs. That is a world living in side a protective bubble. A whole swath of ignorance there.

by catfish1 2008-05-07 09:54AM | 0 recs
I hate suburbs.

Down with the Exurbs!

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 09:55AM | 0 recs
Exurbs further out than suburbs

right? Yeah, I'm not a fan of concrete ennui.

by catfish1 2008-05-07 01:07PM | 0 recs
Universal health care

will mostly help employers. So who's closer to that?

(actually, it's people who work for small businesses, where the boss asks the employees "okay, I got X to give to each of you. How much of it should be health care?")

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 09:57AM | 0 recs
Re: The whole media meme

i noticed this only applies if you are white or hispanic.

by doberman pinche 2008-05-07 09:53AM | 0 recs
if you're black you're only voting for color

...aparently. i hate media.

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 09:56AM | 0 recs
Ahem. Asians DO EXIST you know.

You mean - you notice this only exists if you are anything other than AA.

by catfish1 2008-05-07 09:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Ahem. Asians DO EXIST you know.

oops, you're right, sorry.

by doberman pinche 2008-05-07 10:07AM | 0 recs
Thank you

for once again taking her comments OUT of context.

by kevin22262 2008-05-07 09:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

And let me reitterate my last statement.

Clark, being a General knows whats it like to "look" after troops.
During hollidays he would accomodate any soldiers from his base without homes or means to get their.

This is in start contrast to the POS John McCain, who was of military royalty, who votes against the GI bill, and accepts torture as an acceptable practice thereby compromising the safety and integrity of our ENTIRE armed forces.

Don't EVER let Republicans convince you we don't support our troops.
Its disgusting what they have done to our military and it's personnel.

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-07 09:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

I agree with you, Mc Cain does not have our soldiers back. Ask any Soldier right now, and most will tell you they will vote for anyone but McCain. My son is in the Army, and says everyone he speaks to on Base feels the same way.

by johnny sexton 2008-05-07 10:03AM | 0 recs
Military men are loyal

and don't run to the trendy guy because pundits tell him to.

by catfish1 2008-05-07 09:47AM | 0 recs
He's a strategist

and since Marchish has been thinking about switching. Thinking very privately, mind.

Because he's military, and they know how to keep their mouths shut!

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: He's a strategist

That's ridiculous.

by TxKat 2008-05-07 10:03AM | 0 recs
say what you will

I know what a little bird told me...

(besides, you think he couldn't tell when Hillary's goose was cooked?)

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 10:07AM | 0 recs
Re: say what you will

Your 'little bird' is and was flat-out wrong.  If I were you, I'd avoid talking to that "little bird" again.  It makes you look like a fool.

Erick put it succinctly this morning. "This is not true. He did not contact Hillary or the Clinton campaign expressing a desire for her to drop out."

by TxKat 2008-05-07 10:13AM | 0 recs
Gee... did I ever say that?

that wasn't even the topic of discussion, honey.

So watch what you say, and more importantly, who you be sayin' it to.

The topic was whether the good General was thinking about switching to Obama.

Which he was.

And that, my friend, is something on the down-low.

If you have second thoughts, do you blab them to the person you're thinking about not supporting? I didn't think so!

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 10:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Gee... did I ever say that?

"down low"  what's that?

Some sort of "code".  He never considered switching his support to Obama....never.

And yes, my source is impeccable.

by TxKat 2008-05-07 10:36AM | 0 recs
okay, I'm going to tiptoe kinda carefully here

... is your source on the Hillary campaign?

if it's not, was the question ever asked, "did you ever think about switching?"

Because it is quite possible that Clark discussed it with one person and not with another, before finally concluding it was best to run with the horse he had bet on.

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 10:42AM | 0 recs
Re: okay, I'm going to tiptoe kinda carefully here

"is your source on the Hillary campaign?"

No....   I wish I could be more explicit.

by TxKat 2008-05-07 10:44AM | 0 recs
Oh, don't worry, we all know someone or another

when I said down low, I meant covertly (err... I think I've been reading too many black blogs lately, and their terminology is rubbing off).

If you asked me to tell you who my little bird is -- I couldn't give you any name that you could verify. Some people are much, much more private about their associations than other people (and some people use entirely too many 'code names')

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 10:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, don't worry, we all know someone or anothe

I wouldn't ask you to reveal your source even if it was possible to 'verify' it.  In the age of the Internet, that's too risky.

While I respect that you are reporting what someone told you, I'm telling you that your source was just wrong.

I'm not even saying that your source may not believe that's what 'they heard'.  

But they heard it wrong or implied something from the conversation that was never true.  It happens. People often take aways something from a conversation that they wanted to hear -- or thought they wanted to hear.

by TxKat 2008-05-07 10:57AM | 0 recs
YOu read his mind?

How do you know what he's been thinking? "He's been thinking of switching." Did you read his body language? Did he muse aloud "you know, I might switch to Obama"?

You are so full of it!

But at least you make us laugh :P

by catfish1 2008-05-07 10:18AM | 0 recs
I know who I know

... and i'm not about to cite sources. ;-)

by RisingTide 2008-05-07 10:23AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

Who says he's still for Hillary????? Boy the Clinton people are really stretching. I haven't seen so much pissing in the wind since I took my dog for a walk during Hurricane Wilma.

by johnny sexton 2008-05-07 09:49AM | 0 recs
Re: Genl. Clark STILL for Hillary

that's dissapointing, he's my pick for vice-president

well, one of my top picks

by hope monger 2008-05-07 10:36AM | 0 recs


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