[Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Message

-- The following blog excerpt is provided as a service to the MyDD community. --


I know you know you really screwed up on the recent Iraq funding bill. And I know you think it's not entirely fair that you are being excoriated -- after all, it's only funding the war until September. By providing temporary funding, you're buying yourselves the time and political climate you think you need to line up a veto-proof majority against the Bush administration.

You're in a tough spot.  I get it. In fact, most of us who follow political discourse get it. But a critical aspect of your job is to ensure that all Americans get what you did, how you did it, and why you did it.

Unfortunately, you utterly failed at managing the media message (and that's putting it lightly). "Democrats backed down" is the prevailing meme. Nice job -- you just took a huge chunk out of the Democratic brand.

No matter what the legislative realities, it didn't have to be this way. It would not have taken too much time or investment to ensure that the right message was shuttled through the media meme machine -- yet this clearly did not happen.

In case it's not clear to you just yet, Americans need to believe that Democrats can stand up for America in the face of external threats. However, you just gave Americans a taste for what happens to Democrats when they are rejected twice by a powerful force -- they give in. Great message. That's really going to convince the Security Moms and NASCAR Dads that Democrats are tough enough to fight whatever foreign enemy it is that we seem to think we're fighting.

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Tags: Communications Strategy, Congress, Karl Rove, leadership, messaging, Politics, strategy (all tags)



Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

You know, I'm not really a fan of this guy/gal. I see google text links to this blog all the time, but it clearly hasn't taken hold. More importantly, I actually DON'T think that the Democrats need their own Karl Rove.

Karl Rove trampled the constitution and politicized parts of our government that used to be legitimately independent. He's used bogus vote fraud cases to suppress minority turnout.

Why do we need a Democratic version of that?

I guess I'm just challening the whole concept, not this particular post. Still I think that saying your post is 'provided as a service' is pretty arrogant, and kind of out-of-touch. If you WERE the Democratic Karl Rove, maybe more people whould be listening to you by now...

by AfterThought 2007-05-27 01:00PM | 0 recs
No to roveness!

Why do so many on the left want to become what we all despise? Payback? Let payback come from We The People while we try and keep those in DC honest.

We need Smart and Honest!

Wanting a democrat rove is like saying it is a great thing to compare Obama to reagan!

by kevin22262 2007-05-27 05:52PM | 0 recs
Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

Hello AfterThought,

Interesting perspective.  The problem I see with it is that you're a bit too shallow of an analysis.  

If you think that Our Karl Rove is the constitutional-trampling type, then you really don't seem to have the political breadth and depth to understand what kind of service the site actually provides.  Nor do you understand the multiple dimensions of the real Karl Rove -- or at a minimum, the persona of Karl Rove in the mass media.

That's OK.  I don't maintain the site for you.  I maintain it for Democratic staffers and politicians who can get behind the glossy finish and see the strategic substance.  

I don't need 100,000 visitors a day to make the site successful.  I just need a handful of the right people reading the right ideas.  That's always been the OKR strategy.  This is why I don't have a blogroll or participate in the social networking aspect of the blogosphere.  

I've found that it's not generally acceptable to post excerpts of blog posts on MyDD and Kos, so I provide a quick "service by" tagline to let people  know that it's not a full blog post -- that it instead carries you to the host blog for the full post.  Once I started doing this, people stopped getting angry at this strategy.  

Oh, and Karl Rove is pretty damned arrogant, as is Our Karl Rove.  But sometimes, there's a reason and a rationale to be arrogant.  Think about it.


by OurKarlRove 2007-05-27 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

Sorry, above I said

" The problem I see with it is that you're a bit too shallow of an analysis. "

When I meant to say

" The problem I see with it is that youve' given it  a bit too shallow of an analysis. "

by OurKarlRove 2007-05-27 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

Count me as someone who has no interest in ever finding out what OKR has to offer.

"That's OK.  I don't maintain the site for you."

It's a good thing you posted this here then.  

by Baldrick 2007-05-27 05:30PM | 0 recs
Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

It occurs to me that I should no longer advise MyDD folks of new OKR posts because the representative sample here simply does not seem to get it.  Nor are you intellectually interested enough to even read what I have to say, and assess its relevance.  The comments here are blather and not based on any substance.  How inspiring.

You remind me of the insular Bush administration.  No stomach for different perspective; no tolerance for agitation of your thinking and ideology.  

It's no wonder you're offended by the title "Our Karl Rove" -- you don't like what you see when you look in the mirror.  

It takes confidence to hear a different perspective on an ideology and admit that there might be something you're missing.

Since there is no substantive discussion around my  ideas here, I am left to believe that there is precious little substance left here on MyDD.  A movement that has had its time, and has apparently passed.  

I hope you enjoyed the activist arc.

Good day.

by OurKarlRove 2007-05-28 06:27AM | 0 recs
Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

I don't understand how your diary could omit that ALL of our major presidential candidates moved opposite of what you claim here, be it Clinton and Obama with their actual NO votes (also Dodd) or Edwards with his statements.   These are the leaders of the Democratic party, and one of them just might become president in 2008.  Your omission of that very important counterelement of the most visible Democrats makes your diary unbalanced.  

While I can appreciate some of the sentiments, there is nothing new here, nothing that makes me feel there is some sort of wake-up call or even interesting point of view (something that has not already been widely discussed in diaries.)

 Unbalanced it is incomplete and therefore not very valuable.  

by georgep 2007-05-28 10:01AM | 0 recs
Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

Well, finally, a real comment on the substance of the article.  

You're right, I did not mention the candidates in this article.  I should have addressed it to "Congressional Democrats" which is clearly what the post was pointed towards.  My bad on that one.

Our Presidential candidates were weak, however, in their strategic rationales for opposing the bill.  "Getting our troops home" is as much of a strategy as "surging."  Both are beyond tactical -- they are reactionary.

I have yet to hear a solid foreign policy articulated by anyone running for 2008 office.

Nobody has communicated (to me, anyway) how they plan on changing the environment in the middle east so that radicals perish.

by OurKarlRove 2007-05-28 07:20PM | 0 recs
Re: [Our Karl Rove] Democrats: A Mess Without a Me

"Nobody has communicated (to me, anyway) how they plan on changing the environment in the middle east so that radicals perish."

What does that even mean:  "So that radicals perish"?  That seems like a very uncouth goal.  Who are the "radicals"?  Al Quaida?  The Sunnis or Shiites?  The Saudis?

The events of the last 5 years have clearly shown that our aggressive posture in the region has hurt us more than we were helped or protected.  After 9/11 Al-Quaida should have been the narrow focus, the capture of Bin-Ladin the main goal.  Bush's "Axis of Evil" speech was pure folly, and what came after was like watching endless reruns of the Keystone Cops movies.   The disastrous misconduct of the Bush administration has changed the engagement parameters forever.  I believe all 3 top-tier candidates have more solid foreign policy acumen than Bush or the top Republican contenders, who against logic and reason still insist that the Iraq war is not the gigantic failure it truly is.

 We don't need a plan to see "radicals in the region perish," we need a solid plan to get us out of Iraq, work out working agreements with Iran, Syria and the rest of the region, get the UN involved pronto and, unless we are attacked by a cleary identified enemy group stay out of conflicts for quite some time and lick our wounds (treat our wounded and mourn the dead on both sides of this abomination of a war) instead.  

by georgep 2007-05-28 11:43PM | 0 recs


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