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Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie
Posted 5/20/2008 6:09 AM CDT

In an interview with Good Morning America, during which Barack Obama called the so-called attacks on his wife Michelle "low class" and "detestable" and warned the Republicans to "lay off my wife" he seems to ignore a basic reality of politics-when someone chooses to enter the political arena, whatever they say becomes fair game for the other side.

Responding to an ad by Tennessee Republicans in which they used Mrs. Obama's remarks about being proud of her country for the first time in her adult life, Obama said this: "The GOP, should I be the nominee, I think can say whatever they want to say about me, my track record... I've been in public life for 20 years. I expect them to pore through everything that I've said, every utterance, every statement. And to paint it in the most undesirable light possible. That's what they do. But I do want to say this to the GOP. If they think that they're going to try to make Michelle an issue in this campaign, they should be careful. Because that I find unacceptable," he said."

The Obamas seem to have forgotten how those in their campaign "attacked" Bill Clinton for statements he has made while campaigning for Hillary. Lord knows I'm not one to defend the Clintons, but fair is fair. Bill was criticized sharply for calling Obama's lack of experience "a roll of the dice", for calling Obama's opposition to the war a "fairy tale", and for his comparison of Obama to Jesse Jackson after South Carolina. Retired Gen. McPeak, an Obama co-chair, even compared Bill to Joe McCarthy at one point. Cindy McCain's lack of disclosure of her tax returns has been in the news as well. In fact the DNC has promised that it will continue to be an issue during the general election campaign.

When the Obamas complain about what they perceive as unfair tactics it comes across as whining, just as it does when Hillary laments about the alleged media bias against her. Again, if a spouse injects themselves into the campaign process, like it or not, their words and their actions are going to be fodder for the opposition. My advice to Mrs. Obama is this; you're in the big leagues now, sweetie (sorry ladies I couldn't resist the temptation) either get a thicker skin or get off the stage.

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Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

And tax returns are the least of Cindy's baggage, so I hope the spouses are generally left alone.

by Pat Flatley 2008-05-20 04:58AM | 0 recs
No kidding

I mean - I'd prefer not to go there because I find it a bit unseemly, but let's not forget that Mrs. McCain stole from a charity to feed a drug habit.

Kudos to her for seeking treatment and getting well -- but that doesn't change the fact that she stole from a charity to feed a drug habit.

by zonk 2008-05-20 05:05AM | 0 recs
Re: No kidding

do you really want to get into drug use issue?

by rocky 2008-05-20 05:39AM | 0 recs
Re: No kidding

I must have read the abridged version of Dreams because nowhere in it does Obama talk about pilfering from a charity.

If you want to compare a wealthy heiress stealing from a charity she ran to support her drug habit to a teen trying drugs, well...

Have at it, I guess.

Some people might call that a bit ridiculous.

by zonk 2008-05-20 05:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

Shorter observer5: "I eagerly await the mud-slinging general election, because at least that mud will get thrown at the hateful Obamas."

by neeborMolgula 2008-05-20 05:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

Change.  I do not think it means what you think it means.

by niksder 2008-05-20 05:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

Kudos for the Princess Bride reference.

by Travis Stark 2008-05-20 05:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

We will see who is whining when the drug infested Cindy McCain's lifestory is splashed across the world.

That is a place they don't want to go.

by MissVA 2008-05-20 05:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

do you really want the campaign to be about drug use? Are you forgetting something?

by rocky 2008-05-20 05:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

You seem to be conveniently overlooking the difference between casual experimentation during the recklessness of youth and a mature, wealthy heiress stealing from a charity she ran to feed her habit.

by zonk 2008-05-20 05:46AM | 0 recs
Give me a break

You guys have really lost all perspective. People are not perfect. If you expect politicians to be so squeaky clean, then many qualified people will not run. You sound gleeful at the prospect of a witch hunt. That is not a very virtuous attitude.

by drmark 2008-05-20 06:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Give me a break


I'm not gleeful.  It's a very simple equation.

If Michelle becomes an issue the GOP wishes to foist, then Cindy is likewise fair game.... and I'll take Michelle's 'baggage' over Cindy's 'baggage' any day of the week.

The GOP backs off Michelle, Cindy's not an issue, so far as I'm concerned.

It's Mutual Assured Destruction, nothing more, nothing less... I just think that our 'arsenal' happens to be larger than the 'other' side's.

However, just as during the cold war -- I'd rather everyone keep their missiles in the silo.

by zonk 2008-05-20 06:12AM | 0 recs
You're gonna see . . .

that's not going to happen. The Republicans are going to unleash every bit of slime in the book and Obama is going to stick to the high road and not return fire in kind.

And I predict he will win. I think we're at a rare moment in history where the media and the public are going to be receptive to someone who tries to elevate the conversation.

by drmark 2008-05-20 06:20AM | 0 recs
Re: You're gonna see . . .

Sure -

He probably will.

But I don't work for the Obama campaign, so whatever I post about, whatever LTEs I write, phone calls to talk radio, you name it.

by zonk 2008-05-20 06:22AM | 0 recs
Re: You're gonna see . . .

You are forgetting something important Zonk- there are hundreds if not thousands of people currently in Jail for the experiments that Obama did. There are public policy implications. I would be glad to see all those people getting a presidential pardon form President Obama.

by rocky 2008-05-20 06:55AM | 0 recs
Re: You're gonna see . . .

Sort of along the lines of "I didn't inhale"?  That REALLY destroyed Bill's campaign in 1992.

by ihaveseenenough 2008-05-20 08:04AM | 0 recs
Yuh, right

There are thousands of people in jail for occasional use of cocaine. Folks will say anything on this blog. Get some sense of proportionality!

by drmark 2008-05-20 11:22AM | 0 recs
Bring it On

If the Republicans want to attack Michelle Obama, it just opens the door to examine why Cindy McCain, a very rich woman, stole drugs from a charity organization to support her drug habit. Also, she was in an adulterous relationship with Senator McCain while he was married to his first wife. Michelle Obama and Cindy McCain need to be left out of the campaigns period.  Let's focus on the issues.  However, if the Republicans persist...then Ms. Cindy is fair game.

by markieparkie 2008-05-20 05:08AM | 0 recs
Sexism from Clinton Supporters?

Pot meet kettle.  When a major campaigns' supporters  use the reoccurring theme of overt sexism as a problem in the election, turning around and using a sexist remark negates your reasoning.  Not necessary, and definitely not cool.

by temptxan 2008-05-20 05:09AM | 0 recs
She'd beat your ass. nt

by heresjohnny 2008-05-20 05:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

May I assume you had the courage of your convictions and mailed this to the Obama campaign? I doubt Michelle reads MyDD.

by nogo postal 2008-05-20 05:11AM | 0 recs
Care to comment, obeserver5?

It's generally fairly frowned upon to just post part of an article without any significant commentary by the diarist, is it not?

Anyway, there's a world of difference between criticism of Bill Clinton for his attacks and smears of Michelle Obama.  Michelle loyally stumps for her husband on occasion when her parenting schedule permits; Bill was President of the United States and is his wife's most prominant advisor.  There's no comparison in terms of who is out there in the line of fire and who should be off-limits.

Obama won't have to attack Cindy McCain if they go after Michelle too hard; the press and netroots will be very happy to lend the issue "equal time."

by Dracomicron 2008-05-20 05:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Care to comment, obeserver5?

First of all, I don't think spouses should get "bull-eyed" in any political campaign unless they are overtly political and have extremely un-mainstream views that should be examined.

Saying that, your comment about Michelle campaigning "when her parenting schedule" permits is complete nonsense.  Michelle Obama has thrust herself into the campaing, and has been a vocal and active participant and advisor to Senator Obama.  She has made speeches on his behalf, campaigned for him on stops he couldn't make, and has been the speaker and fundraiser dinners and events for the campaign.

If she can't take the heat for those comments, no body should ever take the heat for anything.

She's politically savvy, and knows that she is just going to have to weather this out, and after a few news cycles it's gonna pass.  It will come up in the general, but by then it will have already been played out, and people will ignore it.  The GOP quite frankly was very stupid in trying to play this canard this early and it clearly shows how desperate they are.

by TxDem08 2008-05-20 05:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Care to comment, obeserver5?

Well that's reasonable.

Of course, 'lay off my wife' is part of the theater of it.  Bill did that too in 1992, even though Hillary Clinton was quite a forceful advocate for him, and, unlike Obama, he said that she was going to play a significant role in his administration.

So in his case it made no sense.  But it still got him where he wanted.

Nevertheless I still think going after family members is in bad form.

by Jess81 2008-05-20 05:37AM | 0 recs
Re: Care to comment, obeserver5?

What do you mean by "take the heat"? Not respond?

by politicsmatters 2008-05-20 05:40AM | 0 recs
Well, we agree on that

I'm sure it will pass... I'm not even saying that she can't take the heat or should be granted complete immunity.

It's just that you can't put her in the same category as Bill Clinton.  It isn't a gender thing or a marriage thing, it's a Former President of the United States thing.  If Jimmy Carter had come out for Obama and started talking smack about Hillary, he'd be fair game, too.

Look at Chelsea.  She's out there on the stump and campaigning for her mother like a champ, but you can't even make an off-color joke about her without facing a two week suspension.  And you can forget about criticizing what she actually says, because interviews aren't even allowed, even with elementary students writing for their school paper.

Michelle's role in the campaign, if you take out all familial components or filial roles, is far closer to Chelsea than Bill.

by Dracomicron 2008-05-20 05:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie
What they don't get out there is the tidal wave of women voters who are steamed.  The anger is in direct relation to the sexism aimed at Hillary Clinton along with the fact that their votes have more to do with his lack of experience and questionable judgment than anything else. Yet they are subjected to cries of racism because of their continued support for a more qualified candidate.  
Repairing that broken fences will become a high hurdle for Obama to overcome should he capture the nomination.  The anger is that deep.  
by Pat J 2008-05-20 05:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

You want to detail the sexism, please?

Do you care to cite HRC's experience, please?

You want to tell me where his judgment is questionable?

I'll be sitting here waiting.

by LtWorf 2008-05-20 05:25AM | 0 recs
Glad to answer that for you...

Lets start with detailing the sexism:

"Life's a bitch-don't elect one!" bumper sticker and tee shirts,   one week media cycle discussing Hillary's "cackle",  grassroots organization named C.U.N.T set up to stop her,  "Bro's before Ho's" tee shirts sold at Obama rallies,  Washington Post article anaylizing Hillary's "cleavage",  Chris Mathews calling Hillary "Witchie Poo", "Nurse Rached," and saying that the only reason she won her senate seat was because people "felt sorry for her,"   3 day news cycle laughing at her for getting chocked up before New Hampshire Primary,  "Hillary Nutcrackers" sold at airports and in gift shops,  Randi Rhodes calling Hillary a "Whore" and MsNbc calling Chelsea the same vile word.  CNN's Cafferty report comparing Hillary to a "scolding mother",  CNN's Glenn Beck mockingly comparing Hillary to "The Wicked Witch of the West",  Fox's Cavuto report saying "When Hillary Clinton speaks men hear "take out the garbage".   Tucker Carlson comparing Hillary to Lorena Bobbit,  MsNbc Morning Joe show saying "Hillary looks like everyone's first wife standing outside of Probate Court",  (and my personal favorite)  "If you can't run your own house,  you cant run the whitehouse"---Michelle Obama, July 2007.  This list is not meant to be exhaustive. There are many more examples.    


Hillary's experience:

1. Appointed to Board of Legal Services Corporation by President Carter.

  1. Chaired Arkansas Educational Standards Committee.
  2. Co founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families.
  3. Served on the Board of the Children's Defense Fund.
  4. Twice named top 100 most influential lawyers.
  5. Chaired the Task Force on National Health Care Reform (failed but learned a lot), 1993-1994
  6. Spoke at the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in China for women's rights, 1995.
  7. Helped create the Violence Against Women Office in the DOJ, 1995.
  8. Worked with Kennedy to push through legislation for the Children's Healthcare Insurance Program ($24 billion 10-year program), 1997
  9. Chaired and wrote the Adoption and Safe Families Act of 1997, which was signed into Public Law.
  10. Founded Save America's Treasures, 1998
  11. Initiated Millennium Project, 1999
  12. Chaired the Foster Care Independence Act of 1999, which was signed into Public Law.
  13. Travelled to 82 countries as her time as First Lady (most travelled First Lady).
  14. Senator from New York, 2001-present
a. Committee on Budget, 2001-2003
b. Committee on Environment and Public Works, 2001-present
c. Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions, 2001-present
d. Committee on Armed Services, 2003-present
e. Special Committee on Aging, 2001-present
f. Chairman of Steering and Outreach Committee, 2003-2007 concede
g. Vice Chairman of Committee Outreach, 2007-present
h. Chairman of Subcommittee on Superfund and Environmental Health, 2007-present
i. Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, 2001-present
  1. Worked with Senator Schumer to secure over $21 billion in funding for redevelopment of the World Trade Center, security and health improvements.
  2. Introduced the Count Every Vote Act of 2005.
  3. Introduced legislation for a national Broadband network to help rural populations.
  4. Cosponsored legislation to expand Healthcare for the National Guard and Reserves.
  5. Pressured the Pentagon to brief the Armed Services Committee on redeployment plans when they refused and questioned her patriotism.
  6. Along with Madeline Albright, founded Vital Voices, 1997.
  7. Worked with Grameen Bank to extablish micro-credit and help economic growth in developing countries.
  8. Helped recover compensation for steelworkers who got radiation poisoning on the job (changed Republican opinions of her in NY).
  9. Helped secure $12 million in funding to track the health of 9/11 workers.

Bills Signed into Public Law

  1. A bill to establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in the State of New York, and for other purposes. (108th)
  2. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the "Major George Quamo Post Office Building". (109th)
Bills Passed in the Senate
  1. A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of National Better Hearing and Speech Month, and for other purposes. (107th)
  2. A resolution honoring John J. Downing, Brian Fahey, and Harry Ford, who lost their lives in the course of duty as firefighters. (107th)
  3. A resolution recognizing the Ellis Island Medal of Honor. (107th)
  4. A bill to designate the United States courthouse located at 40 Centre Street in New York, New York, as the "Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse". (107th)
  5. A bill to extend the period of availability of unemployment assistance under the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act in the case of victims of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. (107th)
  6. A bill to waive certain limitations in the case of use of the emergency fund authorized by section 125 of title 23, United States Code, to pay the costs of projects in response to the attack on the World Trade Center in New York City that occurred on September 11, 2001. (107th)
  7. A bill to designate the building located at 1 Federal Plaza in New York, New York, as the "James L. Watson United States Courthouse". (107th)
  8. A bill to authorize assistance for individuals with disabilities in foreign countries, including victims of landmines and other victims of civil strife and warfare, and for other purposes. (107th)
  9. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 201 Main Street, Lake Placid, New York, as the "John A. "Jack" Shea Post Office Building". (107th)
  10. A concurrent resolution designating August 7, 2003, as "National Purple Heart Recognition Day". (108th)
  11. A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of National Purple Heart Recognition Day. (108th)
  12. A concurrent resolution recognizing and honoring the life and legacy of Alexander Hamilton on the bicentennial of his death because of his standing as one of the most influential Founding Fathers of the United States. (108th)
  13. A resolution congratulating the Syracuse University Orange men's lacrosse team on winning the 2004 NCAA Division I men's lacrosse National Championship. (108th)
  14. A resolution congratulating the Le Moyne College Dolphins men's lacrosse team on winning the 2004 NCAA Division II men's lacrosse National Championship. (108th)
  15. A bill to amend the Public Health Service Act to establish a program to assist family caregivers in accessing affordable and high-quality respite care, and for other purposes. (108th)
  16. A bill to establish within the National Park Service the 225th Anniversary of the American Revolution Commemorative Program, and for other purposes. (108th)
  17. A bill to establish the Kate Mullany National Historic Site in the State of New York, and for other purposes. (108th)
  18. A bill to designate certain National Forest System land in the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico as components of the National Wilderness Preservation System. (108th)
  19. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 555 West 180th Street in New York, New York, as the "Sergeant Riayan A. Tejeda Post Office". (108th)
  20. A concurrent resolution to express the sense of Congress on the Purple Heart. (109th)
  21. A concurrent resolution congratulating the Magen David Adom Society in Israel for achieving full membership in the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement, and for other purposes. (109th)
  22. A resolution honoring Shirley Chisholm for her service to the Nation and expressing condolences to her family, friends, and supporters on her death. (109th)
  23. A resolution condemning the murder of United States journalist Paul Klebnikov on July 9, 2004, in Moscow, and the murders of other members of the media in the Russian Federation. (109th)
  24. A bill to designate certain National Forest System land in the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico as a component of the National Wilderness Preservation System. (109th)
  25. A bill to designate the facility of the United States Postal Service located at 2951 New York Highway 43 in Averill Park, New York, as the "Major George Quamo Post Office Building". (109th)
  26. A concurrent resolution recognizing the 75th anniversary of the Military Order of the Purple Heart and commending recipients of the Purple Heart for their courageous demonstrations of gallantry and heroism on behalf of the United States. (110th)
  27. A concurrent resolution supporting the goals and ideals of "National Purple Heart Recognition Day". (110th)
  28. A resolution recognizing the uncommon valor of Wesley Autrey of New York, New York. (110th)
  29. A resolution calling for the immediate and unconditional release of soldiers of Israel held captive by Hamas and Hezbollah. (110th)
  30. A resolution urging all member countries of the International Commission of the International Tracing Service who have yet to ratify the May 2006 amendments to the 1955 Bonn Accords to expedite the ratification process to allow for open access to the Holocaust archives located at Bad Arolsen, Germany. (110th)
  31. A resolution supporting the goals and ideals of Pancreatic Cancer Awareness Month. (110th)
Amendments Passed to Bill and Signed into Public Law
  1. To provide that the Postal Service may issue a special commemorative postage stamp in order to provide financial assistance to the families of emergency relief personnel killed or permanently disabled in the line of duty in connection with the terrorist attacks against the United States on September 11, 2001. (107th)
  2. To provide funding for services for children relating to crises. (107th)
  3. To make funding available under title V of the Public Health Service Act for mental health providers serving public safety workers affected by the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. (107th)
  4. To provide that the local educational agency serving New York City distribute funds in fiscal year 2002 that are in excess of the fiscal year 2001 allocation on an equal per-pupil basis consistent with section 1113(c) of the Elementary and Secondary Education Act of 1965. (107th)
  5. To make available from amounts available for the Air Force for operations and maintenance $500,000 for a contribution to the renovation of Hangar Building 101 at former Griffiss Air Force Base, New York, in order to facilitate the reuse of the building for economic development purposes. (107th)
  6. To identify certain sites as key resources for protection by the Directorate of Critical Infrastructure Protection, and for other purposes. (107th)
  7. To authorize the use of certain previously appropriated funds by the Federal Emergency Management Agency to be used for health examinations of emergency services personnel who responded to the terrorist attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001. (108th)
  8. To provide for a payment of $11,750 to the Harriet Tubman Home in Auburn, New York. (108th)
  9. To prohibit the use of funds to purchase chickens treated with fluoroquinolone. (108th)
  10. To require the Federal Emergency Management Agency to allocate at least $4,450,000 of any funds previously made available in response to the September 11, 2001, attacks in New York City for continued mental health counseling services for emergency services personnel requiring additional assistance as a result of the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. (108th)
  11. To reestablish the University of Buffalo as an appropriate research center for research on the impact of seismic activity on the Federal-aid highway system. (109th)
  12. To modify provisions relating to the congestion mitigation and air quality improvement program. (109th)
  13. To establish a National Priority Project Designation. (109th)
  14. To require a detailed description of certain costs incurred by, and payments made to, New York City, the State of New York, and certain related entities, as a result of the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001. (109th)
  15. To require the Secretary of Homeland Security to report to Congress regarding the vulnerability of certain facilities and measures to provide greater security, and for other purposes. (109th)
  16. To increase funding for the Technology Opportunity Program. (109th)
  17. To modify the designation relating to a certain project in the State of New York. (109th)
  18. To provide for payments to the New York State Uninsured Employers Fund for reimbursement of claims related to the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001, and payments to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention for treatment for emergency services personnel and rescue and recovery personnel. (109th)
  19. To prohibit the Assistant Secretary of Homeland Security (Transportation Security Administration) from removing any item from the current list of items prohibited from being carried aboard a passenger aircraft. (109th)
  20. To make available from Operation and Maintenance, Defense-Wide, certain funds may be used for community-based programs that provide mental health and readjustment assistance to members of the National Guard and Reserve and their families on their return from deployment. (109th)


As for Obama's lack of judgement, somebody else can post that.  Its too late in the nominating season to bring that up imo.  

by Sandy1938 2008-05-20 05:58AM | 0 recs
Re: Glad to answer that for you...

So in that opening salvo, you cite examples all of which Obama had nothing to do with.  That may be psychologically soothing for you, but it's intellectually dishonest.  Last I checked the likes of Tucker Carlson was a devout Republican.  You want to place the blame on someone, try dealing with those individuals responsible for it.

by LtWorf 2008-05-20 06:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Glad to answer that for you...

Actually, in the comment to which you originally responded,  the commenter cited

The anger is in direct relation to the sexism aimed at Hillary Clinton "

Nobody said that this sexism hurled at her was from the Obama campaign.  Do we have your permission to be angry about it now???

I wasn't going to go there, but since you evidently feel the only valid anger regarding sexism MUST COME DIRECTLY FROM THE OBAMA CAMPAIGN, I will leave you with this link:

by Sandy1938 2008-05-20 07:02AM | 0 recs

And they say blacks get ruffled by political correctness?

"Sweetie"  "Obama's crotch shot"...

The sociological definition of sexism:  The denial of access to power and resources based on an individual's gender.

And because we are an M-W nation:

  1. prejudice or discrimination based on sex; especially : discrimination against women
  2. behavior, conditions, or attitudes that foster stereotypes of social roles based on sex.


by LtWorf 2008-05-20 08:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Glad to answer that for you...

You'd have a much stronger case if you took out items like renaming courthouses.

Your list of sexist comments is pretty short for such a long campaign and includes none from the Obama campaign.  Well, except for one -- the Michelle Obama quote which misrepresents what she was talking about, which was the challenges of taking care of her young daughters while their father was on the road campaigning; it had nothing to do with Hillary and Bill Clinton's relationship.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-20 06:15AM | 0 recs
by LtWorf 2008-05-20 06:17AM | 0 recs
Ummm, have you noticed that

this isn't a very impressive list? Just asking.

by drmark 2008-05-20 06:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Glad

I don't see why Sandy is being TR'd

She responded to an earlier question rather well

by WolfmanJack 2008-05-20 06:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Glad to answer that for you...

Sorry Sandy,

But if resumes were the deciding factor, Chris Dodd, Joe Biden, and Bill Richardson were all far more qualified than Hillary Clinton.

by WellstoneDem 2008-05-20 07:52AM | 0 recs
Perhaps thats true.......

but then again,  nobody was questioning their experience.  They were questioning Hillary's experience.  

by Sandy1938 2008-05-20 08:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Glad to answer that for you...

What's up with TR'ing this comment?  Effing ridiculous.  Those who did it should be ashamed of themselves.

by Montague 2008-05-20 08:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

I know that there are women who are angry that Clinton didn't win. But this woman is not one of them.  


One: I used to support Clinton, but now I support Obama. I think he's a better candidate.  You may disagree, but that's my considered judgment and my views deserve as much respect as yours.  I think he has plenty of experience. Again, you may disagree. But don't claim that I am supporting him because I'm a self-hating, sexist woman.

Two: Obama won this fair and square. By the end of the process, even if FL and MI were included (something that would undermine the DNC's ability to operate), he will have a majority of pledged delegates.

Three: While there was some sexism, it certainly wasn't a dominant part of the race. Clinton lost for many reasons and there is no credible evidence that sexism played a major part.  Her war vote was far more important, for instance.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-20 05:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

What does "toughen up" mean?  Do you mean that people should not respond?  As we've seen over the years, that doesn't make sense at all.  Certainly Hillary and Bill didn't do that.  

by politicsmatters 2008-05-20 05:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama:

wow...could you be a bit more sexist?

by JJCPA 2008-05-20 05:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

I am proud of Obama for standing up for his wife against the repugs.  You do remember that you are a democrat, right?  Maybe you are not a democrat after all.  Bill Clinton defends Hillary, and vice versa.  That is a good thing, is it not???

by Spanky 2008-05-20 05:32AM | 0 recs
I'll just repost these gems

From a similar diary last night...

1992 NYT article titled:   THE 1992 CAMPAIGN: The Democrats; Clinton Assails G.O.P. Attacks Aimed at Wife

Some choice snips:

From Bill, then --

"I'm a little surprised that they resorted to the attacks on Hillary they have, and that they have done it in a way that required them to falsify and grossly distort her own records and words," Mr. Clinton said. "These people get away with murder because nobody ever stands up to them."

Barbara Bush, in an interview on Tuesday, said she understood that Mr. and Mrs. Clinton have planned a "co-Presidency," a charge Mr. Clinton insisted he has never even mentioned.

Hillary's response in the article

Mrs. Clinton, who traveled with her husband to Atlanta for an appearance with Mr. Carter and his wife, Rosalynn, declined to comment on her husband's remarks.

And perhaps the best one:

"What they've done at this convention is just the 1992 version of what they know how to do," he said. "Slash and burn. Trash your opponent. Try to make them look crazy. And I just think the American people will see through it."

by zonk 2008-05-20 05:39AM | 0 recs
Bill, sweetie, toughen up

by JJE 2008-05-20 06:27AM | 0 recs

I've defended the Clintons from this kind of slime for a long time.

Moreover, the title of this post is denigrating. Obama made a mistake when he called a reporter "sweetie", and he apologized for being unintentionally disrespectful. In this context, it's deliberately disrespectful.

Diarist: We can agree to disagree about politics and candidates. But this diary reflects poorly on whichever candidate you favor, and likely does your cause more harm than good, while contributing to the toxic attacks both sides have used on this site. I know that you've seen ugly things from Obama supporters that made you angry, and you've probably seen ugly things from Clinton supporters too. We don't need any more of it. Please delete this diary.

by really not a troll 2008-05-20 05:46AM | 0 recs
This is a totally biased and inaccurate take

Nobody has been whining and indeed Michelle Obama has not complained about her treatment by Republicans. What happened is that Barack Obama threatened the Republicans if they dragged his wife and children into the campaign.

And guess what? That's going to play beautifully with the American public. They are going to like the fact that he's jumped to the defense of his wife.

by drmark 2008-05-20 05:51AM | 0 recs

Obama's done for now! Wanting to defend a person you love, why only an... an... Obama(!) would do something like that!!!!

by luckymortal 2008-05-20 06:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie
This women is for Obama. I like a man who stands up for his wife.
You go Baracky.
by MissVA 2008-05-20 06:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie
This women is for Obama. I like a man who stands up for his wife.
You go Baracky.
by MissVA 2008-05-20 06:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Memo To Michelle Obama: Toughen Up Sweetie

I think it's kind of cute the way he's defending her. Besides, are you forgetting how Bill Clinton went after Jerry Brown in '92 when Brown attacked Hillary? A candidate is going to stand up for his/her spouse. Why is that a problem?

by sricki 2008-05-20 06:49AM | 0 recs
Check your sources.

I'm not sure it's in the best interest to, on a DEMOCRATIC site, repost things verbatim from someone who also says:

"art, I am a conservative"

"eljefe, maybe you need to watch Fox to get another side once in a while, instead of listening to CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, New York Times, Washington Post, Houston Chronicle, et al. Oh, I forgot, your mind is made up, you don't want to be confused with the facts."

" Typical left-winger. Let's resort to name-calling and personal attacks. Al Qaeda is inept? What the hell have they been doing in Iraq? Do you read a newspaper other than the New York Times? Yes, I do think my safety is on Bush's mind. At least we have a president who is concerned with things other than chasing fat chicks around the Oval Office. Clinton could have had Bin Laden long ago but he couldn't keep his pants up long enough."

"Moderate? I think not. The correct word is liberal. What part of " a woman is not to be in a position of authority over a man in the church" don't they understand. It may not be the politically correct position, but the Bible is very clear on the issue. We cannot pick and choose the parts we like and disregard the rest. Either we believe the entire Bible or we believe none of it. It is not an a la carte menu."

"I am so tired of the "you can't deport 20 million people argument." It is so simple it's no wonder the idiots in D.C. don't get it. First, close the border NOW. Second, heavy fines for companies and employers who hire illegal aliens. Third, no access to any social services. This means no free health care, no free education, no food stamps, no public assistance of any kind. We will not have to deport, the illegals will leave. Problem solved."

"It is the height of arrogance of man to think he can destroy something he did not create. With all due respect to all the atheists out there, this planet was created resilient enough to withstand anything man might do to it. It is not this fragile thing teetering on the edge of destruction. We have always had warming and cooling cycles and always will have. The earth survived long before the SUV and will continue to exist long after all of us are gone."

by ihaveseenenough 2008-05-20 08:33AM | 0 recs
Re: so?

She campaigns for Obama.  Her speeches while campaigning are fair game.  Period.  Whether or not Obama thinks it's low-class, he needs to deal with it.  If he wants them to lay off his wife, he should tell his wife to step down from campaigning.

by Montague 2008-05-20 08:31PM | 0 recs


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