Silenced By DailyKos

I left DailyKos a while back because I thought (and after today have never been more convinced) they are hurting Obama's candidacy more than they are helping.

I went back only to find out I can't post diaries nor can I post comments. I still have an account, but I'm silenced. I'm not allowed to be a part of the conversation.

Believe me, I'm not complaining all that much. I'm better off, but there is a part of me that refuses to let kos derail our chances of winning this year.

I'm on record as saying that i thought the fanatics at DailyKos damaged my candidate during the primaries, probably nearly cost him the nomination, and very likely has helped created whatever divide still exists in the party.

My very last diary there was from the days before the Indiana primary where I phonebanked for Obama and got a horrible response from the people I called (including some racism from a few Clinton supporters). I blogged about it and got flamed, trolled and even told to kill myself. So I disappeared.

Now, in my attempt to go back to DailyKos, since apparently the realization that Obama isn't Jesus, which I've been warning about since, oh, 2006, has set in, I discover that I can no longer write diaries or comment. I guess they didn't like my warning that Obama was going to disappoint them, so be prepared or that he isn't the one-man progressive revolution that he says he is, or that he may not even be to the left of Hillary. (Yes and even with that, I still supported and continue to support him.)

It makes me wonder how many other people has kos shut out? Was the Clinton strike not really a strike, but a mass banning of Clinton supporters? Maybe I'm right and that site isn't influential since it shuts out anyone who remotely disagrees. Maybe I shouldn't concern myself with that site. Maybe it's jumped the shark and has outlived it's usefulness.  

Yeah, it's just a rant about kos. If we lose this year, that site needs to be shut down. It's doing more harm than good and we don't need anymore harm doers.

Oh, and I want to thank MyDD for not shutting me up, even though I'm a kossack in exile. UPDATE: I just spoke to my brother who also blogs at DailyKos. Last week he wrote a diary critical of DailyKos and found that he too cannot comment or diary anymore.

Tags: Barack Obama, dailykos, Hillary Clinton, netroots (all tags)

Comments

63 Comments

Congrats.

You knocked someone else's diary off the Upcoming List to post a whine about Daily Kos.  Feel better?

by Shem 2008-07-09 08:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Seems a bit arcane.

by QTG 2008-07-09 08:51PM | 0 recs
Markos was a Repub

and now he calls himself a Libertarian. You're in good company. I've been banned 2x.

by catfish2 2008-07-09 08:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

You've also been banned here once, so does that mean MyDD is only half as evil as dKos?

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-07-09 09:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

Why would anyone need to be banned "twice"?

by MeganLocke 2008-07-09 10:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

Because they don't have the smooching down pact like some.

by roxfoxy 2008-07-09 11:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

...smooching down pact...?  Is this some secret tranny code for something?

by MeganLocke 2008-07-09 11:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

You tell me- It's right up your ally.

by roxfoxy 2008-07-09 11:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

Yeah, I'm rubber your glue.

No, you said it.  What is the "smooching down pact"?  And what are the thirty-nine steps?

by MeganLocke 2008-07-09 11:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

You're rubbering his/her glue?

Huh?  Don't get it.

by psychodrew 2008-07-10 12:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

Ha.  That's such a me thing to say.

-"your kidding".

-"no no no, not my kidding.  Your kidding.

by MeganLocke 2008-07-11 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Markos was a Repub

Well, I might be betraying my age here, retro-wise, but the only 39 Steps I know is the old Alfred Hitchcock movie.  And I mean old, it was made in 1935.  Long before my time, incidentally, but I saw just about every film ever made on WPIX in New York late at night in my callow youth.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-07-10 01:34AM | 0 recs
WPIX

Channel 11!  Taught me everything I needed to know.

by Koan 2008-07-10 07:36AM | 0 recs
catfish2 banned 2x at

the great orange satan.

Impossible! You are so fair and non biased, it's hard to believe you would be banned!

by missliberties 2008-07-10 04:38AM | 0 recs
he does not

call himself a libertarian. That is wrong.

by kevin22262 2008-07-10 06:24AM | 0 recs
On Charlie Rose he said he's more libertarian

than liberal.

by catfish2 2008-07-10 09:11AM | 0 recs
Re-register there

to get back on. You need a different email address and you'll need a new username (as you can see I just go by catfish, catfish1, catfish2.)

The site does not have as much influence as it once did.

by catfish2 2008-07-10 09:10AM | 0 recs
Papa Heinlein sez:

"Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence."  I'm not saying you haven't been blocked, but there's always a chance it was a technical glitch with your account.

by jere7my 2008-07-09 08:58PM | 0 recs
Re: That's why

Yes.

by trixta 2008-07-09 09:19PM | 0 recs
Re: That's why

Yes again.  Markos is a twat.

by rankles 2008-07-10 12:34AM | 0 recs
If you get a certain number

of troll ratings, then doesn't auto-ban kick in.

by missliberties 2008-07-10 04:39AM | 0 recs
Yes something like that

I only got a few TRs the second time and I was banned.

by catfish2 2008-07-10 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Seems possible they shut down accounts that haven't been active for a while.

Have you e-mailed to check it out?

by Falsehood 2008-07-09 09:01PM | 0 recs
Let it go...

It's just a blog.

by potus2020 2008-07-09 09:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Meh, just register nrafter531 and move on.  No sense complaining here.

by username 2008-07-09 09:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

If you described Clinton supporters as racists on the basis of a phone call, you deserved to be banned.

by jrole 2008-07-09 09:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

You're one of many who have been censored from Kos and from the Huffington Post, I hear.  And you're a supporter of Obama (!), so you can imagine how HRC supporters have felt all along.

How has the progressive community come to this?  Why is dissent within the Dem party and the liberal/ progressive community so threatening?  How can the Left have violated  so many of their own's 1st Amendment right?  I don't know who we are any more.  What this primary season has shown is that the Left is no better than the Right when it comes to intolerance and not respecting free speech.  This makes me very sad indeed.  

In any case, I'm happy to hear that you support your candidate but are NOT fanatical about it.  This worshipping of Obama is what first turned me off to his candidacy. This and his soaring rhetoric which always lacked substance.  He's gotten better though, but not much.

by trixta 2008-07-09 09:17PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Please don't equate a few online blogs with the progressive community. They are only one part of that community.

by MS01 Indie 2008-07-09 09:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Most Obama supporters

dKos doesn't "worship" him, either. I'm quite tired of that lazy argument, and you're not being cute by borrowing the "cultist" language.

I have no idea what you ever posted at dKos, but hopefully you didn't exhibit the same holier-than-thou attitude toward other Obama supporters there. If so, I can see why you'd eventually lose privileges. (Although the for the record, I'd still bet on it being a glitch. The admins are pretty darn lax at dKos, and if you didn't have a ton of hidden comments, there'd be no reason to target you.)

FYI, Edwards was always the top choice of Kossacks until he dropped out (mine, too). We didn't simply coalesce around Obama because we "worship" him.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-07-09 09:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Most Obama supporters

I'm not sure that this diary presents a complete picture.  Downthread, I linked to what appears to be the last diary by the diarist - it's not about phonebanking in Indiana, but about SUSA polls.  There don't seem to be any requests that the diarist kill himself in that diary.  Of course I admit that I could be wrong on this, and if so I apologize to the diarist, but something seems off.

by rfahey22 2008-07-09 10:16PM | 0 recs
WOW! This is pretty cool.

So I was reading alegre's strike diary, had never read it so I did a search. The diary in itself is not great but the comments section is golden. Anywho, a comment caught my eye. When I came back on MyDD right now I read this post and did a double take.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/14/ 20827/4727?detail=f#c677

the funny things is... (31+ / 0-)
there's a huge number of current Obama supporters who weren't even in his camp to begin with. I was an Edwards supporters, and it seems to me that the vast majority of us ended up supporting Obama. And there are many former Clinton supporters who switched to Obama, as well.

Newsflash: this ain't a cult. Most of us could care less about Obama's message of "hope" as they do his viability in purple states, or his ability to lift down-ticket candidates in red states. Or the fact that he hasn't bolstered McCain at the expense of his Democratic opponent.

I keep reading all this crap about "Obamabots" and "cults." It must make it easier to deal with the support Obama has on this site to simply label us as sub-human cultists. 'Cause, like, there could be no other reason behind it, right?

Only Democrats need to "pay for" any of their proposals; it's just understood that Republicans are "fiscal conservatives." - Atrios

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner on Fri Mar 14, 2008 at 06:13:23 PM PDT

What are the chances of THAT!?!?!?!

Pretty cool, huh?

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-09 10:25PM | 0 recs
Re: WOW! This is pretty cool.

It didn't link to the comment but it did to the diary.

Sorry about that.

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-09 10:28PM | 0 recs
Re: WOW! This is pretty cool.

switchingsides2 TR'd you...banning is so poorly enforced that returning banned members don't even try to hide it anymore.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-07-10 07:01AM | 0 recs
Re: WOW! This is pretty cool.

Heh...some things bear repeating.

And around here, repeating frequently.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-07-09 10:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Most Obama supporters

Was it wrong of me to burn a candle and a stick of incense on the eve of each primary election?  Shucks.  I missed Pennsylvania and Ohio, incidentally.

by Shaun Appleby 2008-07-10 01:37AM | 0 recs
I love soaring, rhetorical speeches

That's what speeches are for. Gutenberg went to an awful lot of trouble to give us a way to communicate policy details.

Hell, I want Obama to come do our Annual Report speech. I might get through it without 2 No-Doz.

by Neef 2008-07-10 05:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

I'm sure that there's a reasonable explanation.  

by rfahey22 2008-07-09 09:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Yeah.  He had a different view from the fanatics!

by trixta 2008-07-09 09:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

I understand that you need to get your 2-minute hate on for DailyKos, but I personally don't buy into conspiracy theories without a little bit of evidence.

by rfahey22 2008-07-09 09:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Don't feed it!

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-09 09:26PM | 0 recs
Re: rfahey

I got hiderated for writing the word "cunt". Seriously.

Not as in using the word myself but as in McCain using it.

The exact post was...

" McCain loves calling asian gooks and women cunts".

This was on a post about McCain calling the Viatnamese "gooks".

LOL!

I got over the top responses and insults from 3 or 4 tools who think they run the blog because they write whiny diaries about their purist ways. I'll tell you, such a big blog their are bound to be bad apples. I didn't back down and got into a nice little flame war.

It seems the problem was that I wrote cunt instead of writing c@nt or Knt or c@#t. Some bloggers take their PC policing waaaaay to seriously.

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-09 09:32PM | 0 recs
Re: rfahey

This diary is kind of whiny by the way. Why not get a new account and write this there?

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-09 09:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Honestly

I understand your diary. It just seems kind of whiny and weird to complain about Kos on MyDD. I don't even comment over there that much anymore. It would be pretty cool to see you call them out with another username. Alot of kitty picks on that one. LOL!

The same people who are on commenting all day think it's their duty to dictate the flow of the blog. Many commneters are to big for their britches. I love the diaries though and need my Tang fix daily (pre ordered TaKing On the System).

by spacemanspiff 2008-07-09 09:46PM | 0 recs
Re: rfahey

I'm trying to understand: your last diary was not on April 17 about SUSA polls?

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4 /17/181716/116

That was the last diary in the search engine.

by rfahey22 2008-07-09 09:43PM | 0 recs
Try posting at the 'liberal' blog

Talk Left. It's where all the smart Clinton whiners go.

You'll get banned there in a heartbeat, if 'they' don't think your post meets their quasi intellegence threshold.

by missliberties 2008-07-10 04:36AM | 0 recs
Sure Kos sucks. But....
the same thing happens here.
Live with it. Or move on to one of the other countless blogs.
by Beren 2008-07-09 09:54PM | 0 recs
They (Kos) did the same thing to me

I think their little rules explain that after a certain number of offenses/TR's, you can be banned or excommunicated...whatever. They did send a long-winded message explaining why I was being banished, but they must have had me mixed up with someone who gave a shit.

Ironic...for all the things I've read on Kos protesting China's record regarding Human Rights, their efforts at censorship and mind control are right out of the People's Republic of China.

by BJJ Fighter 2008-07-09 09:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Let me get this straight...you're complaining about dKos' policies on a site where a huge number of Obama supporters lost their privileges simply for supporting the wrong candidate, recommending the wrong diaries, and TRing the wrong members? Talk about the wrong choice of forum.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-07-09 10:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

I checked some of your history and some of your hiddens.

Gee, you describe Obama, Edwards, and Clinton as "scum" and declare that none of them can beat McCain, you generally acted like a jerk to people, and made a point of being an irritant, even (sarcastically, I'm sure) identifying yourself as a concern troll in both diaries and comments.

Now, none of that really warranted a banning, but being an inveterate and unrepentant ass is somewhat less tolerated over there than over here, it seems, so maybe an admin had enough and just pulled the plug on you.

You might give a day or two for someone to respond. Chances are you'll get reinstated. A new ID won't allow you to post diaries for a while, and besides, unlike here, if you're spotted as a zombie, you'll just get zapped again.

by BobzCat 2008-07-09 10:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

This is the wrong forum for your complaints - during the primaries being an Obama supporter here was a bannable offense.  I can't fill you in on the details because I was hit in like February and didn't come back until the primaries were over, but apparently it got worse.

Anyway I've enjoyed your posts here, but I remember your first diary about how the people at Kos had come to regard you as a troll.  So I went there and read your diaries, which you were kind enough to hotlink to, and I have to tell you, I would have come to the same conclusion to, for what it's worth.

I mean EVERY diary was "guys, I'm depressed - I don't think people like Obama.  Here's an AIM conversation with someone who says they'll never vote for him".  And people would take the diary as it was, and then someone would say "hey guys, check out this person's past diaries" and it would turn out that they were ALL like that, and before you knew it they'd be posting midgits in spacesuits.  Just sayin'.

by MeganLocke 2008-07-09 10:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Yeah, I went through the diarist's works after reading this diary.  It was a pretty depressing read.

by rfahey22 2008-07-09 11:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

I mean I wanted to bang my head against the desk and take a bottle of sleeping pills.

That said, he's been a good poster here.  I think.  You know how there are certain names that you feel good about although you can't recall specifically any of their diaries.

by MeganLocke 2008-07-09 11:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

"I wanted to bang my head against the desk and take a bottle of sleeping pills."

Do it for your country.

by roxfoxy 2008-07-09 11:53PM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Untrue. Being a Obama suppporter here was NOT a bannable offense. It's clearly nonsense since the site then and now is packed with Obama supporters.  

by ottovbvs 2008-07-10 03:55AM | 0 recs
out of "site" out of mind

That site sucks. Why would you even bother with them? Let the preacher preach to the choir; it's non-productive in my opinion.

by soyousay 2008-07-10 02:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

Basically Kos is Stalinist in the way it suppresses dissent. First amendment. You must be kidding. It's very hard to tell the difference between them and the crazies at Redstate. Which is something a lot of philosophers have often commented upon. Extremists of left and right are much the same.

by ottovbvs 2008-07-10 03:53AM | 0 recs
Funny. I just posted a GBCW at Kos...

Got over 100 tips for it too, although most of the comments were nasty and hard to read.  Seems Kos is divided against itself right now.

by Saintcog 2008-07-10 04:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

oops, not meant as a reply but general comment to the diary.  I always do that.  I blame Jerome for the format of MyDD - easier than blaming myself ;)

by Saintcog 2008-07-10 04:48AM | 0 recs
Ditto - "even told to kill myself"

I left when kos allowed the death threats, threats of violence, etc to go unpunished.  No sane site would not autoban anyone who said that.

by kosnomore 2008-07-10 04:56AM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

That's a lot of censorship from such a "progressive liberal" website that believes in the Constitution.

At least you can write diaries here.  

by stefystef 2008-07-10 06:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

i haven't been there in months....

but i've got the same situation.

as a clinton supporter, they locked me out long ago...

btw...

i was locked out HERE too....i just came back under a different name.

by nikkid 2008-07-10 06:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Silenced By DailyKos

I was kicked out for supporting Clinton and will never return.

by handsomegent 2008-07-10 06:58AM | 0 recs
Yep, DailyKos has jumped the shark

LOL!  What a great diary.  Check the hits this site gets compared to DK before you make a further ass of yourself.  Plenty of voices were silenced here for not kissing Jerome's ass.  

Get over yourself.

by SpanishFly 2008-07-10 08:18AM | 0 recs

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