Rank the President's of Your Lifetime

I read a great article in HuffPo about W's legacy (or lack thereof), that some in the media are claiming that he "kept us safe", (so that is his legacy), but many are failing to mention that 9/11 happened on HIS watch in spite of all the warning signs.

The article by Paul Abrams can be read here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-abram s/george-bush-claims-he-kep_b_154100.htm l

So, looking back over the President's in MY lifetime, I thought I'd rate them on a scale of 1 to 10 (1 = horrible, 10 = perfect). Kind of a fun Year End game that you might want to do too.....

I was born under Eisenhower, so there have been 10 President's so far in my lifetime. I was thinking how Bill Clinton was clearly the BEST and George W was clearly the WORST, what about everyone in between?  Here's how I ranked them:

#1    Bill Clinton    9 1/2.  The positive:  Economy, Ecomony, Jobs, Jobs, and more Jobs.  Plus Family Medical Leave, Brady Bill, Children's Health care, Kosovo, Reinventing Gov't, more Women, Latinos and African American's in Cabinet jobs then at any time, Americorps, Respect around the World, attempted to help Gays (at least brought this out into the open). The negative: only reason I wouldn't give him a 10 is due to the Lewinsky scandal and maybe NAFTA ended up not being so great. Otherwise, I'd say Bill Clinton is as near Perfect a President as we could hope for.

#2    John F. Kennedy   8.  The positive: Economy did well (so they tell me), Peace Corps, Space Program, Cuban Missle Crisis, Great speeches and Leadership, Loved around the world. Negative: Presidency cut short, Bay of Pigs, questionable support of Vietnam.

#3    Lyndon Johnson    8.  The positive: Carried on with Kennedy's legacy, Civil Rights, Education, Medicare/Medicaid. The negative: Vietnam, came in under horrible circumstances.

#4    Dwight Eisenhower 7.  I remember nothing about him. But, from what I read, the economy was doing okay, he continued with the New Deals, installed the Dept of Health, Education and Welfare, supported Brown vs. Board of Education and added the Interstate Highway system.  The negative: enhanced Cold War, began the first involvement with Vietnam, strengthened the CIA to do more covert operations.

#5    Ronald Regan     6.  Funny how he frequently gets ranked as one of the best President's when I don't remember it this way at all. The positive: he restored leadership after the failings of Nixon/Ford and Carter. He ended the Cold War.  The Negative: the economy, inflation, unemployment, cut government programs, S&L crisis, Iran-Contra.

#6    Gerald Ford    5. I don't remember him accomplishing anything, but at the same time, he didn't seem to do any real damage either.

#7    Jimmy Carter    4. (sorry, there are probably alot on this website who think Carter was great, I don't happen to be one of them).  The positive: Dept of Education, Dept of HHS. The negative: Inflation, Energy Crisis, Airline deregulation, Iran hostages.

#8    Richard Nixon    3. The positive: Relationship with China, Walk on the Moon, the EPA, OSHA, EEOC. The negative: Watergate and resignation, Vietnam.

#9    George H. W. Bush   2. After Nixon, I thought there couldn't be a worse President. I was WRONG!! The positive: ADA. The negative: Economy, Persian Gulf War, highest deficit in history (at the time).

#10    George W Bush    0.  I can't even give him a 1 - he's worse then Horrible!! The positive: extended daylight saving time by 4 weeks. The negative: Worst economy in 30 years, highest deficit in history, job losses, stock market crashes, bank defaults, attacked on 9/11 (in spite of warnings), divided the country by targeting groups to hate (gays, latinos), ignored the constitution, FEMA fiasco, loss of respect around the world, invaded a country, no bid contracts, highest gas prices in history, got rid of science and replaced it with Christianity, screwed the Environment, vetoed stem cell research, Hired Rumsfeld and Cheney.

Well that about sums up the President's of my lifetime. You'd think after two failed Bush's that maybe THIS family would go into hiding. Now I hear Jeb is going for the FL Senate. Can the American people just say "NO" to the Bush family. How much damage do we have to endure?

I think if President Obama is even half as good as Bill Clinton, he will turn out to be a 9 or a 10. Hopefully, he will have learned from Bill Clinton's scandals and with the way W is leaving the state of our nation and the world, it can only (hopefully) go UP from here. To me, that puts Obama in a position to be a Great President.

So as we end the worse 8 years of a President in my lifetime, I hope we can regain the great 8 years that Bill Clinton gave us - without all the scandals and that should make all of us happy and proud to be Democrats.

Happy New Year's to All My DDers.

Tags: Bush, clinton, obama, PRESIDENTS, ranking (all tags)



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1.  Bill Clinton(second term only).  After his 1996 reelection, he learned from his mistakes in his awful first term and things went very well.  

2.  Ronald Reagan

3.  George HW Bush

4.  Bill Clinton(1st term): absolute disaster.  Tried to push gun control, gays in the military, and Dems lost Congress.  From 1995-1996, he basically let Republicans pull him around on a leash.

5.  George W. Bush.  Enough said.  

by Kent 2008-12-30 01:01PM | 0 recs
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I'm not going to rate them...  but I'd rank them thusly...

Best to Worst:

  1. Clinton
  2. Reagan
  3. Carter
  4. Bush 41

Carter has been AWESOME post presidency so I'll give him props for that.

by yitbos96bb 2008-12-30 01:11PM | 0 recs
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Clintons my top, but NO WAY would I say he is even close to a 10.  His presidency was FAR from perfect and filled with way to many lost opportunities.  7 to 7.5 tops.

by yitbos96bb 2008-12-30 01:17PM | 0 recs
In Seattle, that is easy

Number one with a bullet:


by WashStateBlue 2008-12-30 01:32PM | 0 recs
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i concur with your thoughtful ranking.

Aside from the towering FDR (with Lincoln, absolutely America's greatest President), Clinton was the finest President of the twentieth century, with strong honorable mention to Teddy Roosevelt, a true Renaissance man--if also, sadly, a global jingoist.

Herewith my own ranking of the nation's ten best, having read almost every major presidential biography in my fifty-five years.

America's Ten Best Presidents ever:

1 and 2 (in fact a tie, as both are equally great) Abraham Lincoln and Franklin Delano Roosevelt.  Two towering figures who defined their respective centuries, concerning whose respective very real achievements no more need be advanced.

3. Thomas Jefferson (a universal genius who veritably authored the Declaration of Independence); flawed, however, by his retention of slaves (Sally Hemings being his truly most significant other).  While in practice in his day, he might have rendered a more forcefaul pronouncement against this most inhuman institution.

4. George Washington.  A founding father and military genius; the first President and by contemporary acclamation.  The architypal surveyer was urbane, and unadorned by himself if supremely vaulted by others afterwards.

5. Bill Clinton.  In whose administration was the "longest peacetime economic expansion" in the whole of United States history.  He entered office with America in bad recession and left the country with a golden surplus and its former supreme debt finally being managed well.  

The "comeback kid" who defied every odds--including surviving brilliantly the travails of a for-absurd-reasons impeachment process.  In whose administration was also realized the Brady Gun Law, Americorps, the enduring Northern Ireland Peace Accords, the reform of the nation's welfare system, substantial progress in Middle East detente, the successful resolution of the Kosovo War, and the reigning-in of the lethal influence of Big Tobacco.  

Add to all of this being the hands-down best politican (and I include President-elect Barack Obama)of the last half century, with an uncanny ability to relate to all segments of society, erudite and uneducated, and all classes, races, ethnicities and sexual identities.  

His enduring legacy is the Clinton Global Initiative, and he is still very much (and I include Secretary of State-elect Hillary Rodham Clinton) the star of the World Stage--anticipating well the new global star, President-elect Barack Obama.  

Bill Clinton will be another two decades in getting his proper due, however, inasmuch as he has been loathed with equal ferocity by both the American Right and the American media establishment--who view him as "the one that got away," in spite of his rather obvious achievements.  

[Note: The MSM and Right-wing continue to advance Ronald Reagan, the former film star who inaugurated our "credit card" mentality in which we borrowed on on grandchildren's futures.  Reagan--the "Iran-Contra" President who didn't get impeached (but surely should have) because he was equally buddies with the MSM and with Tip O'Neill's Congress.  Nor did he end the Soviet Empire--that superpower imploded, much as the United States is doing now by virtue of bone-headed "voodoo economics," as the elder George Bush rightfully called Reagan policies.]

6. Theodore Roosevelt.  A genuine "Renaissance Man," who lived life to the utmost.  A great reader and writer, Nobel Peace Prize winner, designer, environmentalist and in the vanguard of major military maneuvers.  He distilled the very essence of his activist era.  He was, however, also a jingoist--his "big stick" policy made for the future Imperial Presidency, with all of that phrase's lethal connotations.

7. John Fitzgerald Kennedy.  The presidency defining America's last "youth and beauty" era, whose thousand days in office highlighted America's arts, appreciation of its historical past, and space-age wonderlust.  First Lasdy Jacqueline Bouvier Kennedy was in fact more integral to the positive imagery of the JFK era than was JFK himself.  And JFK is marred, however, by his too slow and careful push for Civil Rights, and by his Cold War identity--whose overseas ventures laid the tragic basis of, among other American military follies, the Vietnam War.

8. Lyndon Baines Johnson.  After FDR, the great social legislator of the twentieth century, with Medicaire and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 issued by virtue of his mastery of the congressional process.  Scalded, however, by his insistence on the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution, which swept America into a bloody Indochina Civil War.  LBJ would leave office with a nation deeply divided at home and sadly despised abroad.

9. Woodrow Wilson.  The enlighted, Nobel Peace Prize advocate of a League of Nations.  Ultimately triumphing in war and peace, he was flawed by virtue of his own professorial dispassioned disposition, and a certain noblesse oblige approach to the "hoi polloi."

10. (a three-way tie)  John Quincy Adams, Harry Truman, and Dwight David Eisenhower.  

The younger Adams is said to have had the greatest IQ of any American President (Bill Clinton is a runner-up); his was the inauguration of "The era of Good Feelings" by which America entered and stayed ever after upon the World Stage; he was a contoversial figure but more accepted than was his ferocious revolutionary father.  Andrew Jackson, followed, however, the first official Democratic candidate, as the genuine "people's candidate," if crude and myopic.

Perhaps the last of the truly refreshingly candid Presidents, Harry S (the "S" being a synthesis of grandparent titles) Truman was a guardian of historic preservation (witnessed by his complete White House restoration, more far-ranging than were even Teddy Roosevelt's efforts), and advanced Universal Health Care, if he fell far short of that goal because of his properly denigrated "do-nothing Congress."  

Still, the originator of the Cold War, and the man who insisted on dropping the hydrogen bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki--inflicting anguish on generations not even born.  That bombing was said to have early ending War in the Pacific--and his advocates firmly believe the move was courageous and necessary.  The opposite view, more likely the truth, is that it provided an excuse to use the hydrogen bomb on a population already prepared to surrender.  

Truman, leaving office the most unpopular President in the history of modern polling (with low approval ratings matched only by the younger George Bush), is now much admired by many on the American Right--and for all the wrong reasons.

Dwight David Eisenhower.  The five-star general with whom both Republicans and Democrats identified.  But whose brilliance in the military also led him to caution that Americans must "beware the Industrial Complex."  

A thinking man of letters (President of Columbia University for a spell), self-deprecating and cautious, but whose laissez-faire attitude led to a period of sustained inflation into his second term, and whose detached attitude left his White House years ultimately uninspiring.

The others in the Presidential pantheon have attributes and deficiencies, the sum of which can never grant them the status of great Chief Executives.  Nobel Laureate Jimmy Carter was most cerebral, but his presidency itself was a near-disaster, from high inflation to an Iran imbroglio, badly mismanaged.  Carter is, however, a truly great former President, a strong peace advocate and champion of the poor and disadvantaged, such as his very successful Habitat for Humanity.

by lambros 2008-12-30 01:42PM | 0 recs
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I'm impressed, lambros. Very thoughtful and well written. Other than JFK and Bill Clinton, I have read none of the Presidential biographies.

However, I would certainly agree that FDR and Lincoln tie for #1.

I'm simply at a loss as to why Reagan is looked upon as such a hero, I'm blind to his overall accomplishments outweighing all the harm he did during his tenure even though it pales in comparison to the Bush's and Nixon.....

by nikkid 2008-12-30 02:04PM | 0 recs
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If you don't know the Presidential Bios, HOW can you even begin to rank them.    

by yitbos96bb 2008-12-31 10:40AM | 0 recs
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I wonder about the worsts.

the current occupant is among the top five, to be sure, but I think that John Adams (greatest man to have a abysmal presidency), James Buchanan, Herbert Hoover and U. S. Grant rank up there.

by Khun David 2008-12-31 03:56AM | 0 recs
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I'd go re-read his historical Presidency again and its impact on society which is the true measuring stick.    Most historians SHARPLY disagree... The lowest he is ranked in the aggregate polls is 16th... better than Clinton's best.

Andrew Johnson, Harding, Filmore, Pierce, Buchanan, Grant...THose are the bottom Dwellers.

by yitbos96bb 2008-12-31 10:44AM | 0 recs
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I am flabergasted you can put Bill Clinton as the #5 President of all time.   No way in HELL.   That's as obnoxious as the people who put Reagan in the TOP 5.  Pure partisanship without a realistic base in reality.   The OP calling Clinton's Presidentcy almost perfect is mind blowing... it shows a complete lack of respect for history...

How with a straight face can you guys put Clinton above...

James Madison
James Monroe
Andrew Jackson
Teddy Roosevelt
Woodrow Wilson

I can buy arguments vs LBJ, Reagan, Kennedy, etc... but not the ones above.   Heck the historians even think you guys are way off base... the highest he is in ANY historian aggregate ranking poll is 18.  

He did a good job, but you guys are remember the Clinton years with the Rose colored glasses that the wingnuts look at the 50's and Reagan with... FAR from reality.

by yitbos96bb 2008-12-31 10:39AM | 0 recs
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I think you can give W. a little credit for his work on AIDS prevention and treatment in Africa.  He also created the largest marine reserve in the world.  But none of this gets him out of #10 or even more than a few tenths of a percent on your scale.

by the mollusk 2008-12-30 01:44PM | 0 recs
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Reagan, seriously? It is entirely his fault that we didn't get off the oil tit when Carter wisely recommended it. And he destroyed the Labor movement. Without him, the Bushes would not have been possible.

Reagan was the Worst President ever - which enabled Bush to become the worst President ever again.

by QTG 2008-12-30 02:31PM | 0 recs
Unfortunately, Bill Clinton

partially enabled Bush to become the worst President.  He bungled his first two years so badly that he was toxic enough in Texas for Bush to beat Ann Richards.  No Bill Clinton = no Bush beating Richards in 1994.  

by Kent 2008-12-30 04:14PM | 0 recs
As long as you ignore the reality that...

...in 1994, "Junior" was the son of the last President to hail from Texas, the argument about Richards makes total sense. Unfortunately, IMHO, it was "daddy" who helped Junior vanquish Richards...who happens to be one of my favorite Dems in the past few decades! That lady rocked! (She could give it as good as she got it.)

by bobswern 2008-12-30 05:25PM | 0 recs
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If Bush senior was still in the White House in 1994, voters in Texas would have been hesitant to send another Bush into office.  

by Kent 2008-12-30 05:28PM | 0 recs

#1: Bill Clinton

#2: George H.W. Bush

#3: Ronald Reagan

#Dead Motherf*cking Last: George W. Bush

(yes, I know there have only been 43 presidents, but I expect all future presidents to rank above the last three Republicans. It won't take much.)

by potus2020 2008-12-30 04:20PM | 0 recs
Reagan's free-market economics got us...

...in this mess, along with Laffer, et al. For an informed, Progressive blog to even put this guy in the top 5 out of 10 is pretty incredulous. And, as far as his efforts to undermine the Labor movement and the working class, fuggedaboutit!

(I'm going to keep these rankings positive...)

1.) Lyndon Johnson (Rating: 8.0)--
for his effectiveness and political savvy in pushing through social programs that many incorrectly attribute to JFK (certainly JFK's legacy provided the impetus for LBJ's actions, however), all during a time of great social unrest.

2.) Bill Clinton (Rating: 7.0)--
right place at the right time; brilliant politician. The guy had his sights set on the White House back when he was first running for governor in Arkansas.

3.) John F. Kennedy (Rating: 6.5)--
John, we hardly knew ye'...I definitely feel that if he had served two terms, he could've been one of our top U.S. Presidents, ever.

4.) Jimmy Carter (Rating: 6.0)--
(Disclosure: I was on his re-election campaign staff. Definitely biased in his favor.)
In some ways, the guy was very much ahead of his time. (Especially when it came to matters such as energy and the environment, etc.) History tends to forget that Carter was running for re-election against Ayatollah Khomeini, perhaps even moreso than he was running against Ronald Reagan. You try running for re-election with Ted Koppel doing "America Held Hostage: Day 356," every freakin' weeknight and let me know how that works out for you. (Then we'll talk about it, okay?)

5.) Dwight Eisenhower (Rating: 4.0)--
Carried us from McCarthy through the "Age of Conformity," and then into the space program.

7. [tied]) George H.W. Bush (Rating: 3.5)--
Perhaps a better administrator, having served our government in a variety of capacities prior to his election, than most would acknowledge.

7. [tied]) Gerald Ford (Rating 3.5)--
My favorite thing that Gerry Ford did? Appoint Nelson Rockefeller as his Vice President. The guy was much more aware of his unique situation than most would give him credit.

8.) Richard Nixon (Rating: 3.0)--
I don't have much positive commentary here. He did a few good turns as far as our foreign policy was concerned.

9.) Ronald Reagan (Rating: 2.0)--
(Definitely biased here. See Carter comments, above.) Not much positive commentary here either. "The great communicator."

10.) George W. Bush (Rating: 0.0)--
Promising to keep this positive (all of these presidents had major negative attributes, by the way; I'm just not discussing them), I will say nothing. My diaries speak for themselves.

Elsewhere, I tend to agree with the conventional wisdom on Lincoln being our best President.

"Best President that never was:" Al Gore.

F.D.R. was excellent in many areas, too.

Harry Truman, Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson...pretty good.

Dwight Eisenhower

by bobswern 2008-12-30 04:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Reagan's free-market economics got us...

I couldn't agree with you more! Johnson first, and I would really be tempted to put Reagan last after Dubya considering how much he fucked up this country in the long run.

by LeftistAddiction 2008-12-31 07:52AM | 0 recs
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We're going to have to give a history lesson every year or so to keep progressives up to speed as to how bad Reagan really was -and we'll probably have to do it again for the Bush administration in the decades to come.  James Watt. Ed Meese.  Caspar Weinberger.  Iran-Contra, and especially Ollie North.  Nancy Reagan's insane obsession with astrology.  The firing of the air traffic controllers.  The escalation of tensions during the Cold War that led to  numerous depressing tv miniseries and movies depicting the effects of nuclear Armageddon.  "We begin bombing in five minutes..."

The fact that a few of you put Reagan above Carter and G.H.W. Bush (whose term was calculated to be more moderate precisely because Reagan was so incredibly controversial during his second term) speaks volumes to me about your inclination to believe the news media's rather recent decision to canonize Reagan in the book of "Great American Presidents" right after his death, and ignore the history of the times you lived in.  

by West of the Fields 2008-12-30 05:03PM | 0 recs
Spot-on comment, WotF!!!

You forgot to mention the rise of the evangelical right; destruction of the constitutional concept of separation of church and state (Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson attained prominence during Reagan's term in office)...and my favorite...personified in Michael Douglass' portrayal of Gordon Gecko in the 80's movie, "Wall Street." Reagan was all about "the me generation." Remember, with Reagan it was: "Greed is good!" And, we all know where that's gotten us, don't we?

by bobswern 2008-12-30 05:34PM | 0 recs
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Don't forget that ketchup had become a vegetable.

by Khun David 2008-12-31 03:52AM | 0 recs
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Bush I
by freedom78 2008-12-30 08:03PM | 0 recs
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It's presidents, not president's. Anyway....

1. Carter. Finst human.

2. Eisenhower. The last true moderate Republian.

3. Clinton. Brilliant mind. Lousy morals. Lost Democrats the 2000 election.

4. Kennedy. Gone too soon.

5. Reagan. Goofy ideology. Lovely humor.

6. Johnson. Nasty, cheating SOB. Good legislation.

7. Ford. Ineffectual but a good human being.

8. Bush 1. Enthusiastic, genteel and ultimately bloodthirsty.

9.  Alfred E. Neuman.

10. Morgan Freeman.

11. Harrison Ford,

12. George Bush II. Babbling, bumbling, sadistic fascist. Worst in history.

13. Dick Cheney. Hey, he effectively was president. Beastly, exhultantly evil, ultimately compromised. Worst politician in US history and one of our worst citizens ever.

by Hoomai29 2008-12-30 08:47PM | 0 recs
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How can you put Reagan under Johnson. The latter signed civil rights legislation, the Great Society; the latter dismantled Americans' trust in government programs and everything FDR had worked towards.

by LeftistAddiction 2008-12-31 07:54AM | 0 recs
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In my lifetime:

Johnson (I don't remember his presidency, but he forced the end of the New Deal/Dixiecrat alliance, to the benefit of the Democratic party).
Clinton (if he hadn't used Monica as a humidor, he might have ranked 1)
GHWB (he wisely chose to stop at Iraq's border)
Nixon (besides the EPA, his big plus was that Watergate made the 8 year old that I was a Democrat in a Republican household)
GWB (can there be a ranking for unpresidents?)

by Khun David 2008-12-31 03:50AM | 0 recs
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Bush I
Bush II.


Honorable mention goes to Eisenhauer, who would tie Clinton as the best post-war President.

by Jess81 2008-12-31 06:50AM | 0 recs
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Same set of presidents in my lifetime.

I'd put Carter up a bit higher.  The country didn't really pick up on his leadership.  Definitely above Reagan.  And I'd put Nixon higher.  He was an SOB but he wasn't nearly as horrible as the post-Reagan Republicans.

Don't think Clinton was the best President ever (in my lifetime).  I'd put Kennedy in that spot.  Kennedy was a generational change and he moved the whole country forward into a more modern post WWII era.  Johnson was able to carry it forward.  (I think Obama has a chance to replicate this for the current generational change we're seeing.)

by granty43 2008-12-31 07:09AM | 0 recs
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My list since 1960 (I wasn't born then, but I'm still listing it still then!)

1. Johnson

  1. Clinton
  2. JFK
  3. Nixon (yes, yes, I know... but he was more liberal in some ways than many Democrats subsequently, and certainly more than all Republicans)
  4. Carter
  5. Ford
  6. Bush I
  7. Bush II
  8. Reagan

I can't decide who was worst between Reagan and Bush II... I think the former made more lasting damage because he destroyed people's trust in government whereas everything Bush did ended up backfiring and will hopefully restore trust in government.

by LeftistAddiction 2008-12-31 07:58AM | 0 recs
Clinton way overrated here; Johnson way underrated

Clinton is way overrated here. Johnson is way underrated. imho. Re Johnson and the VietNam war, remember that he walked away from a second full term as a consequence of the war. In other words he left the war to the voters. And it is likely that Kennedy would have pursued the war just as vigorously.

Clinton: Health care disaster, NAFTA, welfare destruction, and the list goes on. My joke from 92 was that I was finally voting Republican, I was voting for Clinton.

by Jeff Wegerson 2008-12-31 09:42AM | 0 recs
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My contribution, keeping in mind I am a 'Recovering Republican' --

1. Clinton, by far

  1. Ford, by default
  2. Carter
  3. Reagan
  4. Bush Sr.
  5. Nixon, better than 4/5 except for Watergate
  6. Bush Jr.

In the history of our republic, I can't quite say definitively that Bush Jr. was the worst, but he's right up there (down there?) with such immortals as Buchanan and Harding

by RecoveringRepublican 2008-12-31 09:49AM | 0 recs
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Dude... Ford?  Over Reagan or Carter... hell even Nixon... Watergate and all, at least he had a decent Foreign Policy (Vietnam aside, of which Johnson shared blame...)  Ford did nOthing.

by yitbos96bb 2008-12-31 10:47AM | 0 recs
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EXACTLY! He didn't have time to screw anything up too much. That's what I meant by 'by default'

Certainly Nixon would be ahead if he hadn't been so monumentally corrupt. And between Ford/Reagan/Carter it was basically a toss up for me. I felt there was too much negative to put those 2 ahead; but your point is well taken.

by RecoveringRepublican 2009-01-02 07:55PM | 0 recs
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My Top List In My Lifetime:

1. Ronald Reagan - The Great Communicator.

  1. George W. Bush - He Kept Us Safe...Get Over It.
  2. George H.W. Bush - The Wall Came Down.
  3. Bill Clinton - Gave Cigars A New Meaning.
  4. Barack Obama - Just Started, Already Better
   Than Carter.
6. Jimmy Carter - Worthless...Absolutely Worthless.


My Top 10 Of All Time

1. Abraham Lincoln

  1. George Washington
  2. Franklin Roosevelt
  3. Ronald Reagan
  4. Andrew Jackson
  5. James Madison
  6. Dwight Eisenhower
  7. Harry Truman
  8. James Monroe
  9. John F. Kennedy

Worst 5

  1. Jimmy Carter
  2. Andrew Johnson
  3. Herbert Hoover
  4. James Buchanan
  5. John Quincy Adams


2 Things I Believe:

In 20 years George W Bush will be seen as one of the greats (ie. Harry Truman).  Barack Obama will either rule from the far far left (and only get away with it for one term), or from the center (and lose his far left support and gets run off after one term)...either way he is a one term guy.  Unless, of course, he is the antichrist.

by abishai 2009-01-20 08:46PM | 0 recs


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