Public Option now Dead in SFC[UPDATE]

Just in.

The Senate Finance committe "debated" 2 public options - both failed. /first-public-option-amend_n_303228.html

The 1st one had 5 "No" votes from the following Democratic Senators: Baucus, Lincoln, Conrad, Nelson and Carper.

The 2nd option had 3 "No" votes from Dem Senators: Baucus, Lincoln, and Conrad.

Shame on all of the Democratic Senators who voted against these options.

More will be written as the day goes on. But this is not good news for progressive democrats and millions of Americans who cannot afford health insurance.

[editor's note, by nikkid] The committee will hear 2 other ammendments tomorrow, in either case, it appears that the PO is DOA out of the Finance Committee. Senator Harkin, Chair of HELP Committee says that the Senate has a "comfortable" majority to pass a PO. Harkin believes Dems can muster 60 votes to break a filibuster. I only hope he's right. Will Baucus, Lincoln and Conrad join the others in a filibuster? Harkin seems to think so.

Tags: Democrats, hcr, Healthcare, Public Option, reform (all tags)



Re: Public Option now Dead

No it's not.

There are four other bills.  There's a difference between voting against an amendment to a bill you want on the floor as a promise to earn the 3 million the insurance industry has given you, and actually filibustering when it comes up.  It's far from over, and largely expected.

by Drummond 2009-09-29 12:27PM | 0 recs
Re: Public Option now Dead

I meant from the Senate Finance Committee. The other options sound like very watered-down PO ammendments. Drummmond - I hope you are right on the filibuster.

by nikkid 2009-09-29 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Public Option now Dead

Schumer had this to say.

"To come up only two votes shy in the Finance Committee, the most difficult terrain for this proposal in the whole Congress, makes us increasingly optimistic that we can pass a bill with a good public option in the end. We had more votes at the end of the day than we did at the beginning, and many members who aren't yet for a public option are still approaching us to seek out areas of agreement."

by Drummond 2009-09-29 01:19PM | 0 recs
Re: Public Option now Dead (in SFC)

Is that waht this is all about?

The SFC didn't report out a PO! How is
that news?

The PO is not dead, at all.

by QTG 2009-09-29 03:31PM | 0 recs
Hysteria breaks out!

The PO is not dead. It never had a shot in the Baucus venue. It's stronger than ever, and we know now, as per analysis from Chris Bowers and others that there are 51 votes for the PO in the Senate, either with cloture or with budget reconciliation. The PO is on track.

by cmpnwtr 2009-09-29 01:54PM | 0 recs
Please change your title.

The Public Option is not dead, it's just not going to be in the Finance committee's bill.  Please adjust your misleading headline, if you would.

Thank you.

by Dracomicron 2009-09-29 01:58PM | 0 recs
by louisprandtl 2009-09-29 02:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Public Option now Dead

I'm ambivalent. Although I dropped out of Public High School during the Seventies, I've been contributing to Public Education through Real Estate taxes since the Seventies (a couple years after). My kids have never attended a Public School, and don't to this day. I will never even consider using a Public Option "Insurance" plan (I have concierge MDs on retainer). I'll almost certainly be taxed for not using the 'normal' Health Insurance options, just as I was taxed for education that benefited me only to the extent it benefited society. I'm a Kennedy Democrat, and I believe that's the way it's supposed to work.

Oddly, I've never had even one person thank me for my contributions, and in that respect I'll have to agree that Republicans and Democrats are just alike: they resent those who are more wealthy, regardless of how they got there. It doesn't hurt our feelings, but it scares enough of us to keep gate builders and private guards employed.

The Public Option is not Dead. Mark My Words.

by QTG 2009-09-29 02:35PM | 0 recs


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