How MyDD has lost its Luster

MyDD was one a oasis of liberal thought. That oasis is now a drought.

The reason this blog has lost its luster is their constant and persistent angry diaries against Barack Obama. No, Sen. Obama is not the perfect candidate but guess what, neither is this blog's preferred candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Diarists are so busy trashing Sen. Obama that they forgot to say anything positive about their own candidate. I will not name diarists but they know who they are. If they continue to knock Sen. Obama then you do not help your candidate's cause.

The next three weeks will be interesting to see how Obama supporters will react to these charlatans and malcontents who enjoy knocking Obama because he had the, yes I'll say it, audacity to challenge Mrs. Clinton in 2008. This was supposed to be her time and this "wet-behind-the-ears" senator who had to wait until 2016 to run for president. Well folks, he didn't and he's running because of the "fierce urgency of now" as he likes to say.

In conclusion, might as well change the name of the blog to because that's what it has become. has NOTHING on this site.

Tags: Election 2008 Hillary Clinton Barack Obama (all tags)



Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

God do you really have nothing else to do? It is ironic that you accuse Hillary supporters of invading the website and doing nothing but rant when your diary says nothing substantive at all and offers no example. It's election season, and you are justifiably upset at the other camp. But try to not enter into too many uninteresting rants no one is really interested in reading.

Instead, go through the diary list and count the number of blog entries that trash Hillary. Furthermore, Hillary Clinton has not campaigned as a progressive icon -- Obama has and has a reputation to be a true liberal, mostly because of his Iraq war opposition. It is perfectly understandable that blogs look at him with a higher standard.

by LeftistAddiction 2008-01-14 12:10PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Maybe he should go over to DailyKos where Obama is the preferred candidate. LOL

by lonnette33 2008-01-14 12:11PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

"neither is this blog's preferred candidate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton."

Obviously, you're not a regular here. HRC is the preferred candidate on MyDD. LOL

What a dumb diary!

by lonnette33 2008-01-14 12:10PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

The truth hurts, doesn't it?

by Nedsdag 2008-01-14 12:20PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Actually, it appears a concerted troll effort by a potato crop, in an old guy effort to denigrate and disrupt the liberal blogs.

Be careful, it's unwise to attack in this manner until you understand how you're being used.


OTOH, there have been some productive, knock out discussions about race, and sexism, in America, and out of that, the country will be better.

And that is something trolls cannot grasp about democrats, and even some republicans -- the true democratic process, and superior intellect.

I mean, Dick Cheney, dictator, anyone?

I wonder how that impeachment drive is going?

by Marsha1 2008-01-14 12:42PM | 0 recs
Clinton at least get fair shake here.

There are plenty of anti Clintons and plenty of pro Clintons. If you asked me about 50/50. Over at Kos it's 90% anti Clinton and the venom of the comments belongs over at Redstate. Ultimately what happens at Kos is that if you are consistently pro Clinton is that you get kicked off the site. So much for Markos the liberal.    

by ottovbvs 2008-01-14 12:20PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Or as I call it, MyDLC.

by X Stryker 2008-01-14 12:26PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Blacks wont get anywhere in America unless they fight for it.  Whites are not going to share their power willingly.  No one said the fight would be easy. The Clintons already had their 8 years thanks to enthusiastic support from blacks. And now right when a black person is poised for the first time to lead a first world nation for the first time in history, the Clintons need another 8 years.

by greenboy 2008-01-14 12:31PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Everybody knew Hillary Clinton was going to run.  It was Obama who was not going to run at all, but then decided for a run after all.  Don't turn the sequence of events around now, as if Obama was going to be our AA candidate and Hillary decided to put her considerable candidacy against him after Obama's entry.  

by georgep 2008-01-14 12:48PM | 0 recs
Excuse Me?

So since Hillary Clinton was running, no black candidate was allowed to jump in the race? That is an unfair standard. I cannot believe you would suggest this, you are normally much more reasonable than this.

by HatchInBrooklyn 2008-01-14 12:57PM | 0 recs
Re: Excuse Me?

I have NOT suggested what you claim here.  I can't believe that you are making such an accusation.  It makes no sense at all.  As you well know, I believe (and always HAVE believed) that anyone who wants to run SHOULD run.  Regardless of creed, color, who they were married to, etc.    It was the poster I was responding to who stated this:

"The Clintons already had their 8 years thanks to enthusiastic support from blacks. And now right when a black person is poised for the first time to lead a first world nation for the first time in history, the Clintons need another 8 years."

Excuse me, but this poster claims that "right when a black person is poised for the first time to lead" the Clintons need another 8 years.   How is that not a ridiculous thing to say?  Should Hillary Clinton, who has always going to run, and even more, COULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT OBAMA suddenly decided to run this year after all, just have gone away, renounced her run, get out of the way?    Honestly, Hatch, I have no idea why you wrote the post you did aimed at me here, when the unreasonable premise was advanced by a fellow Obama poster.  All I stated was that Clinton announced first, how can anyone be sour about her "needing another 8 years"  "right when a black person is poised to" run as well.  

by georgep 2008-01-14 01:14PM | 0 recs
Excuse Me

I apologize for misreading your comment George. My mistake.

by HatchInBrooklyn 2008-01-14 01:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Excuse Me

No problem.  Thanks for seeing the context in which the comment was made.  

by georgep 2008-01-14 02:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Excuse Me?

The Clintons already had their 8 years. I really don't think a black should be denied real power for the first time in human history, just because they want to hog another 8 years of power. After all the black community has done for them, the least they can do is not stand in the way of the first black president.

by greenboy 2008-01-14 02:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Excuse Me?

But don't you understand that Hillary announced first and could, at the time, have had no idea that Obama was thinking of running AT ALL?  Obama stated for the longest time that he had no intention of running, after all.   I think you can't be serious in asking/demanding that once Obama got into the race, Hillary should have just cleared the way for him?   I think Obama needs to win this fair and square, on his own merits, not by a major frontrunner clearing the way for him.  If he can't, then maybe he just isn't that candidate?    I don't look at Obama from a black or white perspective, just whether I like his policies, rhetoric, voting record, debate performances, etc.   That should be the measure, not that he may be the first AA to win the presidency.  

When making claims about "firsts" we forget too quickly that Jesse Jackson won a lot of contests, ended up with many delegates, and came close to winning the nomination in 1988:

JJ won the votes of 7 Million primary/caucus voters (more than Mondale got 4 yrs. earlier when he won the nomination,)  had 1,075 to Dukakis' 1,790 delegates moving into the convention.  Let's see if Obama can come close to that.

by georgep 2008-01-14 03:00PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Obama vs. Clinton might be the end of Mydd since Mydd has become a shill for the clinton campaign

by orin76 2008-01-14 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

especially if she loses

by orin76 2008-01-14 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Quite frankly, there is enough silliness by both camps. I prefer Obama to win, but I am not enthused  by his campaign.

by Pravin 2008-01-14 12:39PM | 0 recs
Amazingly enough

the candidates are all failed, imperfect instruments.  They are very disciplined and full of energy, but are not ideal.  Very odd indeed.  I always thought that persons who run for president should have a shining halo.

by dataguy 2008-01-14 01:02PM | 0 recs
The Hillary-bots wasted no time in attacking

I just wish that partisans would temper their words somewhat.

In the time that I have been here, I find that the Hillary-bots are just far more fanatical.  They swarm like locusts.

I once was sympathetic to both Clinton and Obama, while prefering Edwards over both, and Dodd most of all.  Today, I can barely consider supporting Hillary.  The vehemence and attack without quarter of her partisans is simply nauseating.

Some of the Obama partisans are also out of control, but the Hillary-bots are the worst.  I wish that I could be even-handed, but creating a false equivalence is a lie, and I can't lie.

by dataguy 2008-01-14 12:45PM | 0 recs
search and find the worse thing ive ever said

about obama personally - and then lets compare it to what youve said about hillary.  ok?

i think youll see a major difference.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-14 01:14PM | 0 recs
Re: The Hillary-bots wasted no time in attacking

Dataguy, remove that beam from your eye.  I've seen your posts around this site. . . .

by Trickster 2008-01-14 02:59PM | 0 recs
The Hillaryites on this site are so short sighted.  Hillary will have a tough time in the GE because people like myself, a life long Democratic activist, will not vote for her.  
But my not voting for her is not because of the wackos here - I used to tell people until a few days ago that I would hold my nose and vote for her - but the shenanigan in NH with the distorting email about Obama's choice record in Ill. was the last straw.  Character means a lot to me.  
by Moonwood 2008-01-14 12:48PM | 0 recs
Over at boomantribune

there's a whole thread about this, how they are just nauseated by the Hillary hits and attacks, and how she is losing her support in the GE.

Hillary partisans, heed my warning!! Temper your fanaticism!!! Stop with the attackawacka stuff.  

by dataguy 2008-01-14 12:50PM | 0 recs
vote for nader - your threats dont impress.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-14 01:16PM | 0 recs
You are not reading carefully.

which is not surprising.

I did not say that I would not vote for her.  I haven't decided but I am a Dem.  I said that there is a thread which reports that.

Try to focus, Seymour.  You fly off the handle at the drop of a hat.

by dataguy 2008-01-14 01:26PM | 0 recs
a bunch of you cultists said we may lose you

if we dont do as you want us to.

dont worry, we'll live.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-14 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Amen

A lot of people will not vote for Obama, amongst them a lot of Democrats.  I am not one of them (should he make it) but there are plenty.   Since that is the case, should we call Obama-ites short-sighted?  Vote for whoever you want (or not at all,) let others do the same.  In the end, the one candidate with the most delegates wins.  

by georgep 2008-01-14 12:51PM | 0 recs
Hillary's strategy

since Iowa has been to drive the Obama negatives higher - it seems as though she is succeeding in killing the dream - I hope all you Hillaryites are proud of her.  

by Moonwood 2008-01-14 12:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary's strategy

What are you talking about "succeeding in killing the dream."   IMO Obama is not a very strong candidate.  I like him as a person, he seems like a nice guy and he will probably make a good Senator (although I think he'll tend to be somewhat moderate.)   But as a candidate he is not that great.  Overall his performance in almost all the debates was rather non-impressive, and that is the one time many, many people get to see him outside of actual campaign events most don't get to go to.  His NH debate last week was particularly weak.  So, I think whatever problems he may have attracting voters to come out for him is largely a function of his candidacy.   Obama's biggest problem is with Democrats, who don't regard him as their favorite, and that will make it very hard in states that don't allow Independents to participate.  I am frankly sick and tired of Obama fans constantly throwing the word racism around, seeing it lurking in EVERYTHING critical of Obama, when indeed Obama is a flawed candidate in his own right (IMHO way too green.)

by georgep 2008-01-14 01:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary's strategy

I tend to agree with you, not been blown away with Obama, but been more pushed away by Clinton.

What is the reason that Hillary Clinton will not govern from the center-right as Bill Clinton governed?  Is it that the political landscape has changed?  Is she more liberal than him?

I don't want a president whose slogan isn't "Bush only cares about the top 1%, I say let's remember the other 19%."  I am not convinced that Obama would be any better than Bill way, but what is your reason to believe that Hillary Clinton would.

(or I guess you could argue that the stagnating real wages and rapidly rising economic inequality of the 90's was dandy)

by labor nrrd 2008-01-14 05:44PM | 0 recs
Actually he's quite

brilliant.  If you took the time to see what he has accomplished - its quite impressive.  

by Moonwood 2008-01-14 07:25PM | 0 recs
Killing the dream?

go away kid, the adults have a nation to save.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-14 01:35PM | 0 recs

attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack

Gosh, you sure are a prize, mollie322132.  How often does your model get an upgrade?

by dataguy 2008-01-14 01:38PM | 0 recs
Thanks MollieBradford/georgep for proving my point

It was people like MollieBradford and georgep that made me write this diary. These two (and others that I didn't mention) are destructive and devastating to the democratic process.

by Nedsdag 2008-01-14 02:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks MollieBradford/georgep

i  put up a diary like this about a month ago those people  flooded it with posts claiming i was a troll. That i was a republican and some other accusations

by orin76 2008-01-14 02:35PM | 0 recs

Actually, posters like yourself writing nonsensical diaries without adding anything interesting or remotely poignant are detrimental to this site.  I am sure you have a more receptive listening audience over at dkos, though.  Good luck.

by georgep 2008-01-14 03:36PM | 0 recs

Nonsensical are people such as yourself who refuse to face fact that your remarks about other candidates not named Clinton are hurtful and insensitive.

by Nedsdag 2008-01-14 03:45PM | 0 recs
Re: Nonsensical?

Your remarks of Clinton are ok, even though they have been very extreme, filled with vitriol, yet anyone making comments about Obama not being a true progressive (which is the extent of my commentary towards Obama) is hurtful and insensitive?   Are you even aware how laughable that contention is?  

by georgep 2008-01-15 09:52PM | 0 recs
That's why I call them Hillary-bots

They are robots programmed to attack any anti-hillary comment.  If you even say "I had a question about Hillary," you will get a swarm of Hillary-bots screaming invective at you and calling you a misogynist and a troll.  

I really doubt that these horrible and relentless attacks have convinced any wavering person to vote for Hillary.  Rather, for persons who were once somewhat sympathetic to Hillary, I am repelled and nauseated by the over-the-top, entirely ridiculous and thoughtless attacking style of these Hillary-bots.

What's most annoying is the CONTINUAL LYING AND EXAGGERATING.

georgep lied yesterday about the progressive nature of their records.  He went to a site which showed that they were essentially tied, and he cherry picked statistics in a very lying and wrong way to make Obama look like Attila the Hun.

NOTE TO ALL: Obama and Hillary are very close to tied in progressive votes.

Many of these Hillary-bots engage in these exaggeration lies all teh time.

by dataguy 2008-01-14 04:52PM | 0 recs
Re: That's why I call them Hillary-bots

I did not lie at all.  You are just making stuff up. Obama is way down the rankings as for his progressive record.  You can't deny that.  "Essentially tied" does not cut it, is not even remotely true.   To wit:  Obama ranks 43rd out of 49 Democratic Senators as for being progressive.  You can't explain that away.  It is not a very progressive record.  It is more a middle-of-the-road record, obviously.

by georgep 2008-01-15 09:56PM | 0 recs
Thanks Mommy

Isn't it funny that even this diary has been reduced to this.

by misscee 2008-01-14 02:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks Mommy

Even THIS diary?  You make it sound as if this is somehow a valuable diary in any way, shape or form.

by georgep 2008-01-14 03:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks Mommy

you sure do like to put words in people mouths when you're not .... oops I don't want to get myself into trouble.

by misscee 2008-01-14 11:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Thanks Mommy

did you bother to check whether or not I recommended the diary? Too busy pounding the keys, I guess.

by misscee 2008-01-14 11:55PM | 0 recs
Hillary-bots - form up, attack

attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack attack

That's what they do.  There is no discussion with a Hillary-bot.

by dataguy 2008-01-14 04:53PM | 0 recs

be nice.  You write like you are so superior - usually that means you feel insecure. Its okay - no need to get angry.

by Moonwood 2008-01-14 07:27PM | 0 recs
I agree

Sometimes I feel like this website should be called I am sick of the I hate(Fill in the candidate diaries)....

by TennesseeGurl 2008-01-14 12:55PM | 0 recs
hillary clinton is a RACIST

there is a diary here right now that says that hillary cliton uses RACIST language and IS a RACIST.

Look all around this site and find the worse thing that is being said about Obama himself and then - lets compare.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-14 01:10PM | 0 recs
Yeah - how about

those diaries by susanhu?  Those are way out of control.

by dataguy 2008-01-14 01:27PM | 0 recs

whats the worst shes said about obama personally -lts compare.

by Seymour Glass 2008-01-14 01:48PM | 0 recs
The principles are both too smart

to talk about this stuff themselves.  It's mostly the bloggers and surrogates.

by dataguy 2008-01-14 01:57PM | 0 recs
I see it

from all sides. Supporters from all candidates have written attack diaries and comments.

Lately tho it is the Obama and Hillary war on this site and at Dkos.

by kevin22262 2008-01-14 01:30PM | 0 recs
boo hoo

the Clinton haters no longer have a free ride here like the did when there were only 3 or 4 Clinton supporters.  Now you might have to hear the other side of the argument and THAT JUST SUCKS!

Boo hoo kiddo.

by MollieBradford 2008-01-14 01:37PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

Oh please.. the site flows with the pattern of the campaigns.  Hillary has always been attacked because from the beginning, she was seen as the front-runner- When Hillary was seen as floundering, the Edwards supporters stepped up their attack diaries on Obama and so did the Clinton supporters- and the Clinton attack diaries fell off a little- it seemed Obama got attacked exclusively from both Clinton and Edwards- now that Edwards is pretty much out of it- it's now between the Obama and Clinton supporters- but the attacks from both sides have always been very harsh- Hillary has always been thrashed here- this is not a Hillary site- Obama gets a free ride on other sites and doesn't here, that's all.  It's all nonsense.

by reasonwarrior 2008-01-14 02:06PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

no what we have on here is an organized pro-hilary attack machine. That childishly attacks anyone that questions them.

by orin76 2008-01-14 02:23PM | 0 recs
Re: How MyDD has lost its Luster

I have found that if you dislike the content of a forum, you have two choices:

1.  Stop visiting the forum


2.  If you feel a vested interest in the forum (as we all should with MyDD), you work, through your own writing, to elevate the bar of discussion.

If you are tired of attacks, never attack.  If you grow weary of unsubstantiated arguments, never use them in your own diaries.  If you find content lacking, ad some.

by Jason Williams 2008-01-15 11:48PM | 0 recs


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