It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

When you see women as equal to men you do not underestimate them. Constance Walker wrote an excellent Op-Ed to The Keene Sentinel that describes an example of sexist people underestimating a woman. She wrote about how people's sexism blocks them from seeing the greatness of Sarah Palin:
http://sentinelsource.com/articles/2008/ 11/01/opinion/letters_editor/free/id_329 527.txt

Many times I've heard people say Gov. Palin is not qualified to be VP. I've heard this complaint more often by men. When a person sees a woman who is an excellent governor and thinks she is not even worthy of being VP then that indicates they are sexist. I dare anyone to mention any male candidate this election season that can match these abilities:

Intelligent-read newspapers in grade school (every article) Which of the male candidates read high school level topics at age 10? Remember, this has nothing to do with school learning where children are motivated to get high grades to please their parents or where adults are motivated to complete their coursework in college to get a high paying job. This is the joy of learning for the sake of learning shown at an early age (biography: Sarah, page 21).

Ethical-gave up a $115,000 job as Oil and Gas Commissioner rather than be part of a network of corruption. She had to give up her job in order to seek justice for the people. Which of the male candidates did anything like that?

8 Years Political Executive Experience-started from grassroots as PTA mom, then councilor (6 years), mayor (6 years), and now governor. Palin has many years experience planning, implementing, and maintaining tax policy, social services, capital projects, economic growth, etc. Which of the male candidates has been a political executive? *edited paragraph 11/2/08

Balanced a state budget-Palin prudently limited spending while focusing on energy and education to help the economy (http://journaloffeministinsight.blogspot.com/2008/10/gov-palin-knows-how-to-balance-us.html).

Palin has negotiated an arrangement whereby Alaska natural gas will be piped across the Canadian border and into the United States. The gas pipeline project will bring new supplies and lower prices to the contiguous 48 states. The Senate voted 14-5 to approve a natural gas pipeline deal with TransCanada Corp., joining with an earlier 24-16 approval by the House. The pipeline would be the largest construction project in the history of the United States. Is there a single male candidate who knows as much about energy and has as much experience/success implementing energy policy?

Approval ratings have often topped 80%-Which of the male candidates has been able to connect with and meet the approval of the general public (Democrat, Republican, Green, etc.) to such an extent that they have achieved an 80% approval rating frequently?

Newsflash: It's sexist to require women to achieve 1,000 times more than men to even begin being seen as equal. A woman should not have to achieve much more than a man to be viewed as equal to him. In my opinion sexism is the worst social problem in the world. I look forward to the day when women and girls achieve equality.

*Please note: Many of my reply posts have been hidden. All my replies were polite and on topic so I presume I was censored because people wanted to hide information they didn't want readers to know about. When I wrote my Sep 27, 2008 diary about ten of my replies were hidden which ended the conversation I was having with people so I decided I will no longer reply to comments on my diaries until this web site is changed to allow people's posts to be viewed by everyone.

Tags: feminism sexism Sarah Palin (all tags)

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38 Comments

Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

Sarah Palin is greatest super happy betst genius politician of all time.

by Jess81 2008-11-01 01:44PM | 0 recs
No Feminist has ever been greater

Sarah Palin has single-handedly done more to advance the cause of women then all other movement members combined!

And, I couldn't agree more, it's overwhelmingly been men criticizing Palin....

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/1 1/01/palin/http://www.newyorker.com/repo rting/2008/10/27/081027fa_fact_mayer

http://www.salon.com/opinion/walsh/elect ion_2008/2008/10/03/palin_flubs/

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/1 1/01/palin/

http://www.salon.com/mwt/broadsheet/2008 /10/27/warner_on_palin/index.html

I could go on, but why bother?

by WashStateBlue 2008-11-01 01:56PM | 0 recs
Re: No Feminist has ever been greater

Are you including Peggy Noonan, or other conservative talking heads?

Palin should be an insult to truly qualified women. McCain put a pretty doll, not a qualified woman, out there to get votes. Fortunately most people see through this.

by IowaMike 2008-11-01 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

by January 20 2008-11-02 12:59AM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

Sarah Palin believes the world was created 6000 years ago. That makes her a moron.

Sarah Palin charged rape victims for their own rape kits, and believes raped women should carry their rapists' babies to term. That makes her both anti-feminist and plain evil.

And she was a horrible mayor that blew her city's debt to high heaven, btw.

by Aris Katsaris2 2008-11-01 02:02PM | 0 recs
Thank you

... for your McCain/Palin diary.

Here I was thinking the whole time that I thought Palin was unqualified because of her simplistic world view, her demagogic campaigning, her complete lack of understanding of foreign policy, her belief that the VP is in charge of the Senate, her anti-environmental policy, her suspicion of the free press, and her habitual lying about pretty much everything.

Turns out I'm just a sexist.

by mikeinsf 2008-11-01 02:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Thank you

by January 20 2008-11-02 12:59AM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

Newsflash: It's sexist to require women to achieve 1,000 times more than men to even begin being seen as equal.

1000 times?  Is that even possible within a normal human lifespan?

Nancy, I'm sorry to say this, but you're acting like an idiot.  Please stop embarrassing yourself.

by username 2008-11-01 02:21PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

It's not an act.

by WashStateBlue 2008-11-01 03:34PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!
from the linked LTE:

Has Obama balanced a $9 billion budget?

No, but neither has Sarah. You don't have to balance a budget when your state receives billions in windfall profits tax from the oil companies. By the time she took office, oil prices had produced a multi billion dollar surplus for the state.
She left her little town of Wasilla $20 million dollars in debt, so obviously doesn't understand how to balance a budget.

Did he see the error of earmarking and then stand firmly against it and other wasteful spending?

Actually, Alaska is the number one state for federal earmarks, so it's obvious that while Sarah may have seen the error of earmarks, she did everything she could to get millions in earmarks for Wasilla ($27 million) and the state

If Sarah Palin were an ordinary looking man age 50 with that kind of a record, people wouldn't be calling him a bimbo and a ditz.

People call her unqualified (and unmentionably worse) only because she is a beautiful woman.

Actually, people call her unqualified, because she is unqualified and uniquely ignorant in national matters. Witness her statement about her foreign policy "experience":

We-- we do-- it's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where-- where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is-- from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to-- to our state.

Her knowledge about the Constitution also seems to be similarly lacking:

If [the media] convince enough voters that that is negative campaigning, for me to call Barack Obama out on his associations," Palin told host Chris Plante, "then I don't know what the future of our country would be in terms of First Amendment rights and our ability to ask questions without fear of attacks by the mainstream media."

A VP candidate who doesn't even understand what the First Amendment stands for?

Say it ain't so, Joe!!

by skohayes 2008-11-01 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

My nephew says he wants to be a vulcanoligist

He is 9 years old.
I had to google the word to figure that out and it just rolls out of his mouth.

Kids are weird

by gil44 2008-11-01 02:48PM | 0 recs
Vulcanolgist?

Hey. let's ask Nancy?

She's probably not a super-genius like Sarah Palin, who is like 10000 times smarter then Einstien (or something like that...)

I think it's a study of Spock and the Vulcans...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spock

What do you think Nancy thinks of T'Pau, a highly respected member of Vulcan society, and best known as the only person to ever turn down a seat in the Federation Council, arrives to conduct the ceremony?

You think SHE is greater feminist then Sarah Palin?

Who would win in a wrestling match between her and Sarah Palin?

T'Pau is probably 400 years old, but she that super strong Vulcan thing, and she can do the pinch?

But, Palin might be able to wound her from the Helicopter and that would even the odds?

Gosh and Golly, guys and gals, I sure wish Nancy would do a diary on that!

by WashStateBlue 2008-11-01 04:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Vulcanolgist?

by January 20 2008-11-02 01:00AM | 0 recs
You're doing more to hurt women

than any critic of Sarah Palin could ever hope to do.

by JJE 2008-11-01 02:49PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

Hi Nancy!
Where have you been all this time?
You used to be a great admirer of Margaret Thatcher... now you've switched to Sarah Palin. Well at least you are politically coherent.
But I must you have considerably lowered your standards. Some women seem to think that extolling any other woman, irrespective of their merits, is good for women as a whole. I personally believe that it's a disservice to them.

I thought about you this morning while reading
Geraldine Ferraro's appreciation of Sarah Palin; I wondered what you would think about it. And here you are! What do you make of it? Geraldine's just another sexist?

by french imp 2008-11-01 04:04PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

Hey Nancy, do you think the fundies, neocons, etc., have all backed Palin because they happen to be less sexist than others in society?  Or do they see her as a great opportunity to advance their respective agendas?  Have you become a Republican now?

by IncognitoErgoSum 2008-11-01 04:29PM | 0 recs
You are right....

Peggy Noonan LOVES her.....

by IowaMike 2008-11-01 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

"Intelligent"

The problem with this claim is that the public has now seen Palin speak about issues in a variety of situations, and her "word salads" don't suggest she has much understanding of issues beyond those associated with her duties as Governor of Alaska.  

The usual challenge politicians face is to discuss issues in such a way that someone with only a lay person's understanding can follow the conversation (get too specialized and he or she will lose the audience).  Palin faces a wholly different challenge, in that the layperson, hearing her speak, often comes away feeling that he or she is better informed about the issue.

That plenty of Republicans have noted this says all one needs to know.  It's as if many of Palin's backers are arguing, "Who are you going to believe?  Me or your lying eyes?"

"Ethical"

I won't go the easy route and bring up the Wooten thing.  Will just say that observers have called Alaska the GOP's Louisiana, plenty of high-ranking politicians have gone down in recent years, and I think there's a pretty good chance the same will happen to Palin after this election is over (but not for anything which happened when she was governor, more small-town stuff).

by IncognitoErgoSum 2008-11-01 04:47PM | 0 recs
It is starting to get a bit creepy.

Nancy, You have truly are disappointment. Please go do some serious investigation about your heroine and not just her press releases.

by jsfox 2008-11-01 05:56PM | 0 recs
Re: It is starting to get a bit creepy.

Starting?

Nancy has long ago arrived at creepy, set up camp and dug in for a long long stay...

It's been creepy, it's approaching macabre and a Grand Guignol...

by WashStateBlue 2008-11-01 06:19PM | 0 recs
What about Dem women in politics?

Using an anti-feminist frame against Palin helps put her down, but it certainly has a chilling effect on the way we regard good Dem women who run for public office.

Criticize Palin, but don't do it using anti-feminist rhetoric. Thanks.

by Betsy McCall 2008-11-01 07:25PM | 0 recs
Re: What about Dem women in politics?
Sarah Palin comes with plenty of anti-feministic rhetoric of her own.
You're Welcome :-)
by Maori 2008-11-01 07:28PM | 0 recs
Yah Want Feminist Nancy?

Ok GIRL, I got ONE KICK ASS FEMINIST ROCKER right here for Ya....

She is dedicating this 80s Rocker to you and your new hero Sarah P.....whom we all know you will drop like a hot rock
when she slinks back to Alaska after Obama/Biden spanks her and McCain next Tuesday.

So, if you want A REAL FEMALE SUPERSTAR, NANCY, I Got ONE FOR YA Right here!

AND, She has a LITTLE MESSAGE for your McCain Boy bout his thinking he can steal PA with his racist push-polling...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC-GAzAeI g8

by WashStateBlue 2008-11-01 07:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Yah Want Feminist Nancy?
You really are a little nasty sexist horrid creep. Woman hater. Did your woman leave you? Or maybe it was Mama? Did some girl whip your whiny butt?
Typical Obamabot. Brainless, hating, spineless. You hated Hillary, too. You call nasty names without foundation.
Obama is your god. These powerful women are a danger to your precious messiah, and you, too.
Obama may win, God help us all. But that won't make you more of a man.
Hillary and Sarah are both worth a dozen of your phony Hussein. You'll see.
You have called me lots of names, too. I wonder if that would have happened if I was known here by a man's name. Doubtful. Mysogenist. Wanker.
by Marjoriest 2008-11-01 09:19PM | 0 recs
Here's the problem...

Your genitalia has nothing to do with what a bitter person you are, clinging to the past.

Obama is no one's God here.  Anger seems to be yours.  

Be well.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-11-01 09:21PM | 0 recs
Re: Yah Want Feminist Nancy?

Have fun Tuesday!

And have fun four years from now when we beat whatever candidate you guys throw up then, too.

by Jess81 2008-11-01 10:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Yah Want Feminist Nancy?

Oh, and you're talking to a woman, so insulting her about how she isn't manly enough probably isn't going to bother her.

btw, Hussein?  Nice.  I love how as you get angrier and angrier, you don't even bother to hide it.  Back to the klan rally with you.

by Jess81 2008-11-01 10:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Yah Want Feminist Nancy?

by January 20 2008-11-02 01:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Yah Want Feminist Nancy?

Majoriest, by acclimation, most of MyDD finds you an annoying whiny goof-ball with almost nothing but victim diatribes bile in your posts.

You think this is all about you.

We think you're a worthless doof.

PLEASE do us a favor, and disappear after the election proves that everything you have posted it is just a twisted pile launched from your lunatic imagination.

In other words, Piss off, loser!

by WashStateBlue 2008-11-02 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Yah Want Feminist Nancy?

Actually, you pyschotic moron I said absolutely ZERO negative things about Senator Clinton.

Ask even some of the still angry Clintons supporters I NEVER said a negative word about the Clintons.

I respect the Clintons.

You, however, are total Dipshit extrodianaire!

My support for the Clinton is based on respect, not blind fawning hero-worship like the bowing and scraping you do?

Look, this is clear, you're a political newbie with virtually NO experience in any campaign besides this, you have shown a complete lack of depth in any policy quesiton,
it's just your personal sick-identification with Senator Clinton.

Sentator Clinton is SOOOOO much better off with real saavy supporters like me then neophyte losers like you.

You bring NOTHING to the party, glad to see you have headed home to your natural haunt as a Republican.

by WashStateBlue 2008-11-02 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

Palin and Clinton were definitely smeared by a sexist news media

Palin is as qualified as Bush was and he didn't get anywhere near the negative press she has.

A very strong case can be made that Palin and Obama are roughly equal with regards to experience.

The democratic party and especially the news media has chosen to attack the assertion that women are equal this cycle.

by dtaylor2 2008-11-01 09:18PM | 0 recs
No Bush Lover Here, But-

1. Bush had the family name and money

2. Bush was chosen by a nationalwide primary to be his party's nominee; Palin was chosen by one person-McCain.

Agreed -It's bad for Society to Underestimate Women-
We know women are the real problem solvers in society.  
They'll get it right one of these days or years.

As for making the case that Palin and Obama are roughly equal in experience, that would/should not be a final determinant.  McCain has much more experience than both of them, but that does not make him the best Presidential candidate. Palin may be fine for Alaska's governing purposes, but she is obviously woefully lacking/limited in world knowledge.  She needs much more seasoning than she can get in even 4 years before she will be credible on the world stage.

Meanwhile, we have only one viable choice - and it's best for women and for the country  and the world to make it happen.

by susie 2008-11-01 09:18PM | 0 recs
Governor Palin is an idiot

The Governor is deeply incurious, dismissive of others, and has had the good fortune to preside over a state which is uniquely wealthy and underpopulated.

Please notice that at no time did I use a gender-specific term to describe the Governor.  My concerns regarding Governor Palin are wholly unrelated to issues of gender and are specific to the Governor's inability to read the Constitution, or at the least, the Governor's disinclination to do so.

Bugger off.  You're beating up on a strawman.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-11-01 09:20PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad

I admit it's childish & obnoxious to keep posting this clip over & over again throughout this diary.

I was inspired by some diarist's obnoxious habit of childishly posting the same crazy nonsense in diary after diary after diary after...

by January 20 2008-11-02 01:04AM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad

It really is annoying.

by mikeinsf 2008-11-02 07:13PM | 0 recs
Re: It's Bad For Society To Underestimate Women

Palin is just a person looking out for herself.  She IS NOT a feminist.

A feminist who is the governor of a state with the highest percentage of domestic violence would have made that part of her platform to change

A feminist who was the mayor of a city that had a law on the books when she took office about charging rape victims for rape kits would have REPEALED that law the first day she took office.

If anything, Palin is the sexist here.

by colebiancardi 2008-11-02 03:41AM | 0 recs
why allow this troll to post?

by catchaz 2008-11-02 12:20PM | 0 recs
Palin's Limits

Sarah Palin is governor of a state the size of MEMPHIS, TENNESSEE, the 15th largest city in the U.S.

Get it? That puts 14 MAYORS ahead of her as experienced and more qualified. And most governors.

She has no intellectual curiosity at all, and has taken NO initiative to understand foreign relations, the CONSTITUTIONAL role of the VP, or the basics of economics.

In short, she's no Hillary Clinton. They may use the same bathroom, but she's not even worthy to give Mrs. Clinton a hand towel.

by Its All So Goofy 2008-11-02 04:40PM | 0 recs

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