Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice president

I just a Newsweek article that documented that HRC told Obama she would provide background data to him to vet her for the VP job. This happened during the meeting at Dianne Feinstein's house:

When Hillary finally did meet with Obama at the home of Sen. Dianne Feinstein a few days later, she told Obama that she did not want to go through a full-scale vetting for vice president unless he was serious about choosing her. The vetting process was onerous, requiring very full financial disclosure, and even included questions about romantic and marital indiscretions. As the financial crisis deepened in the summer, Eric Holder, Obama's chief veep vetter, added more questions about mortgages and problematic financial deals. http://www.newsweek.com/id/167905
If HRC didn't want to be the VP she would have told Obama. She was willing to be vetted for the job, so apparently she wanted to be VP. This indicates that she was considered and rejected for that job. I think the people should elect the VP in the future.

If HRC didn't want to be the VP she would have told Obama. She was willing to be vetted for the job, so apparently she wanted to be VP. This indicates that she was considered and rejected for that job. I believe the people should elect the VP in the future.

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Comments

95 Comments

Re:

BO and his supporters made it clear HRC could not be VP.  As i recall she is a "B" and a racist and we need to loss her and her supporters.  That was clear.

david

by giusd 2008-11-07 05:27AM | 0 recs
Re:

DAVID

you are no longer to refer to him as BO he is your President Elect-Obama now  

Respect that !

say it with me President Obama

you got until January 20th  to get it right  

see you at the inaugaration :)

by wellinformed 2008-11-07 05:36AM | 0 recs
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DUDE,

Thanks for the advice.  I will give you comments the time and thought it deserves.  And you will get the repect from me that your email deserves.

But i generally only take criticism for peers.  Sorry.  Better luck next time.

Respect that!!!!!

david

by giusd 2008-11-07 05:45AM | 0 recs
Re:

Are you trying to pick a fight? Why? Do you have unresolved issues from the Primary Wars? Do you think you can spoil our celebration of President-Elect Obama's splendid victory?

Your attempt has FAILED

Seek help.

by QTG 2008-11-07 05:52AM | 0 recs
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"Thanks for the advice.  I will give you comments the time and thought it deserves.  And you will get the repect from me that your email deserves."

DUDE

are you high?

I did not email you weirdo  why would I want too any way ?

Are you making a pass at me ? I am flattered but keep looking

by wellinformed 2008-11-07 06:50AM | 0 recs
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Of course i wrote email instead of post.  Funny are you suggesting i am making a pss at you.  PEASE give me a break.  It sounds like you have some issues do you think everyone is making a pass you at you. Are you some kind of stalker.

I am married.  Get a life.

david

by giusd 2008-11-07 07:03AM | 0 recs
Yes I am a stalker

"Of course i wrote email instead of post.  Funny are you suggesting i am making a pss at you.  PEASE give me a break.  It sounds like you have some issues do you think everyone is making a pass you at you. Are you some kind of stalker.

I am married.  Get a life."

david

you caught me I am a stalker and I don't want to get a life I just want to be part of your life FOREVER  we can stay up all night together and wright bitter comments about the president and pretend the Primaries are still  going on strong that sounds fun!!!!!

by wellinformed 2008-11-07 10:09AM | 0 recs
Grammar Police

I normally don't make a big deal out of posters' spelling and grammar mistakes, since I sometimes make them myself, but I'll make an exception here.  

It's "your" comments, not "you."
It's "they deserve" not "it deserves."
It's "respect" not "repect."
It's "comment" not an "email."
It's "I" not "i."
It's "from peers" not "for peers."
It's "Troll" not "david."

by ProgressiveDL 2008-11-07 07:44AM | 0 recs
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OK a coupe of things you are free to call him anything you want, however you might want to head back to NoQuarter where it's sadly accepted.

Next use the preview button and check you grammar

we need to loss her and her supporters
loss?

Finally we did not want to lose her supporters just the idiots and tin foil hat types that decide PUMA was a good idea.

Now the election is over you can chose to get over it or not, but if you can't don't expect much love here.

by jsfox 2008-11-07 06:13AM | 0 recs
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Thanks i have no idea what no quarter is but what ever.  Funny when are BO supporters going to accept the awful way they treated HRC.  

Never i guess.

Your post is typical.  It sound much like republicans after 9/11 who said to anyone who was against going into Iraq "if you dont like it here move to canada".  Funny because really that is what you are saying and IMHO you are acting like the the FOX crowd.  I guess acting like a bully makes some people feel better.

dg

by giusd 2008-11-07 06:24AM | 0 recs
Re:

Peddle your crazy somewhere else.

by Jess81 2008-11-07 07:52AM | 0 recs
So...

what are you doing hanging around?

by tonedevil 2008-11-07 07:00AM | 0 recs
Re: So...

Why are you kicking me out?

david

by giusd 2008-11-07 07:04AM | 0 recs
Not kicking you out...

just wondering why you want to hang around with individuals who have hurt you so much, insulting you and your candidate of choice?  

by tonedevil 2008-11-07 07:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Not kicking you out...

Your concern is noted.

by giusd 2008-11-07 07:35AM | 0 recs
Please stop...

slicing me with your rapier like wit.

PS It is actually a lot more fun to spar with you now that you have completely lost it.

by tonedevil 2008-11-07 07:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Please stop...

No more picking on David please.  Like many of us, he was heavily emotionally and politically invested in Hillary Clinton.  Everyone deals with it in their own way.  

We have a new president elect, a new Senate, a new House, more governorships & state legislatures--nothing to be defensive about.  We can weather a few residual frustrations from the primaries.  Honey catches more bees than vinegar.

by BPK80 2008-11-07 02:45PM | 0 recs
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Wow, you said "clear" twice.  Normally when people do that they're making fun of the rhetorical trick where people say "clearly" about something that actually isn't clear at all but they want to make it look like it's beyond debate.  But you did it seriously.

I forgot what my point was.  Oh yeah - why do you hate America and Baby Jesus?

by Jess81 2008-11-07 07:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

So?  Whether Senator Clinton wanted it or not is somewhat irrelevant. It was President-Elect Obama's choice to make not hers.

Personally, as someone who likes and respects Senator Clinton I think the right decision was made. Her talents would have been wasted in the VP positions. She will end up being far more effective being a powerful Senator over the long term.

by jsfox 2008-11-07 05:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

I agree with this.  The primary motivation for adding Hillary to the ticket was primarily electoral - she would have made it a lot easier to win the election, but in retrospect that wasn't needed.  She can accomplish much more in the Senate, especially if she can replace Reid as majority leader (which is a pipe dream, I know...).

This really doesn't show a lot of enthusiasm from Hillary for the job, the "yeah, I guess I'll do it, but only if I'm your top candidate".  If she really, really wanted it, her answer would have been "yes, please start the process ASAP".  To me, this just confirms the "willing if necessary, but not real enthusiastic about it" story.

by NJIndependent 2008-11-07 05:47AM | 0 recs
It wasn't Hillary, it was Bill

If Bill and Hillary were divorced, I am convinced she would have gotten the job. Bill is a loose cannon, and his unwillingness to stay on message was antithetical to how Obama ran his campaign.

If you read further in the article you are quoting, it clearly says that.

by pneuma 2008-11-07 05:30AM | 0 recs
A for effort!

I just a Newsweek article

You just a Newsweek article?  Tell me about it.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-11-07 05:33AM | 0 recs
Re: A for effort!

She must ALSO be super happy best genius politician of all time, like Palin.

by Jess81 2008-11-07 07:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

There seems to be a presumption by some people that if she wanted it she should have gotten it... I don't understand that..

I mean I want lots of things... doesn't mean I get them.

Once Obama was declared the winner of the nomination it was his choice to make and after the way she handled the primaries who can blame him for not wanting to touch the Clintons with a ten foot pole.

by obama4presidente 2008-11-07 05:34AM | 0 recs
Evidence that we need administrators at this site

Why is it that Nancy is allowed here to sow discord at every turn and no admin is willing to ban her?  She is the epitome of a troll.

by Why Not 2008-11-07 05:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that we need administrators at this s

She hasn't been banned because she only says nice things about Palin, McCain and Hillary.  If she started writing nice things about Obama, then she'd be banned.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-07 05:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that we need administrators at this s

I think they don't ban the trolls for revenue/page view purposes. Correct me if I am wrong. Please. I can't think of any other reasons except for the one mentioned above.

by dtaylor3 2008-11-07 05:45AM | 0 recs
irony abounds!!!

really there dtaylor3 do they not ban the parody trolls either?

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 05:48AM | 0 recs
Re: irony abounds!!!

I don't think that I am trolling. Sure my name is in reverence to a long serving troll but I am not here to sow discord. You should take that back.

by dtaylor3 2008-11-07 05:55AM | 0 recs
Re: irony abounds!!!

take what back exactly?  i have no problem with parody trolls save for that in my experience they really do not bring much to the discussion save for snark and insults to other posters.

run free dtaylor3!

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 06:07AM | 0 recs
Re: irony abounds!!!

Keep on trolling CG. Whatever makes you happy.

by dtaylor3 2008-11-07 06:11AM | 0 recs
Hold on there sparky!

I love Nancy's post. They are great exercises in taking  illogical ideas and spinning them into logical ones. She never does it, of course, but they are fun and give me a daily and sometimes twice daily opportunity to go . . . WTF!

by jsfox 2008-11-07 05:45AM | 0 recs
Do you even have a point? n/t

by sricki 2008-11-07 05:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Do you even have a point? n/t

Vagina.  No, wait....

Yep.  Vagina.  Final Answer.

by fogiv 2008-11-07 06:14AM | 0 recs
hhmmm....

hi sricki!  if i had to guess - i would say the diarist's point is that clinton was not vetted.  not that there is anything wrong with talking about it at this juncture.  

the problem however - is that i like my diaries with a larger point, you know one which provides some analysis and bigger ideas for the reader to ponder.  in this case - this diary fails to do so.

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 06:58AM | 0 recs
This person is a troll.

Probably a Republican from RedState.

All his/her diaries are about getting people to refight the primary wars.

He/She can make the best points ever but they only serve on purpose.

TROLLING.

Remember last night? The Cabinet diary? That's all it is.

PIck controversial topics, sit back and let the flaming begin.

Hope "Nancy" gets banned soon.

by spacemanspiff 2008-11-07 07:29AM | 0 recs
Re: This person is a troll.

CG doesn't think Nancy is a troll.  She thinks the people making fun of Nancy are trolls.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-07 07:39AM | 0 recs
since you're new....

may want to look up an old diary by a highly respected diarist called student guy.  in it - he wrote about all the different kinds of trolls one should be on the look out for.

you may just find one in there that applies to you.  see - i am familiar with nancy's work, but see you and others like you that do nothing but cause shit and add nothing to the conversation are just as bad - if not worse since we all know what to expect from the nany's of the world.

anyway - hope to hear some of your ideas in the near future.

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 07:55AM | 0 recs
Re: since you're new....

So which kind of troll are you CG?

by dtaylor3 2008-11-07 08:18AM | 0 recs
oh dtaylor3 - i am the worst kind of troll....

there is - a PROGRESSIVE troll.  see - i just looked up your posting history - and your last 10 comments are more of the same.

you and several others - i guess we can throw our pal nancy in there as well, seem to be here for one reason - causing shit.  but at least with nancy, it is expected and people call her out on it.  and frankly im tired of talking to the jerone armstrongs, hillsmygal, and dtaylor3's of the world.

when you and you bud that keeps mojoing you want to talk politics instead of refighting primary battles and doing nothing but taunting others that are now irrelevant - let's chat.  cool?

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 09:37AM | 0 recs
Re: oh dtaylor3 - i am the worst kind of troll....

Ha ha. You are the one defending Nancy. I only go after trolls and you only defend them. Looks like your true colors are coming out. If you could open your eyes you would see that I am the opposite of the posters you mentioned. You, on the other hand, are on their team. So whatever. If you can't handle an Obama victory and want to keep fighting the primary wars, I feel sorry for you.

by dtaylor3 2008-11-07 10:04AM | 0 recs
really?

no problem - if i have misjudged you dtaylor3 - could you point me to a comment or diary that you have written to debate or discuss politics?

if so - i will certainly rethink my opinion of you even though you jacked another poster's handle here.

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 10:07AM | 0 recs
Re: really?

it's really telling that you have major problems with dtaylor3's commentary but none with dtaylor2.

dtaylor isn't a horrible person, but most of his commentary for much of the post-primary season (with a few exceptions) has been pretty vile.  He and Nancy are people you hold up as examples of righteous blog behavior while you criticize the folks who have a problem with what they say.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-07 10:13AM | 0 recs
oh.

i have just as many problems with SOME of what dtaylor2 says as well.  the difference is i judge most on the merit of their words not on some preconceived notion of who they supported in the primary.

see my username is the same from day one, no sockpuppets, ratings taken away etc.  do you know why that is?  id like to think that it is because i tend to be polite unless the situation warrants otherwise.  my guess is that you would be better served following the smae philosophy.

in any case the mystical vortexes of sedona , i would love to talk politics with you - could you direct me to a diary or comment that discusses an issue without mocking someone and we can chat?

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 10:18AM | 0 recs
Re: oh.

"i have just as many problems with SOME of what dtaylor2 says as well"

That may be true, but I don't remember you saying so.  Instead, your verbal criticism is saved for those  of us protest the original bad behavior.  When XYZ says "Obama is a racist/marxist/Muslim terrorist/sexist/centrist/athiest/drug-d ealing/gay turd", you let it slide.  When we yell "GTFO, asshole", you say that we are the problem and protest loudly.

I'll stop being rude to the trolls when the trolls start realizing that this is MyDD and not NQ, FreeRepublic or LGF.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-07 12:41PM | 0 recs
i think this will be my last comment to you.

clearly your clams of knowing me are misleading since most here will vouch for the fact that i call out trolls of all breeds.  that said - i find it interesting that you were unwilling/unable to provide me the examples of which suggest your good intentions.

oh well - now ive wasted more time than i care to on the little chat of ours.  i bid you adieu the mystical vortexes of sedona, and remember most progressves are pleased now - maybe those that aren't should examine why that is.

good night and good luck.

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 01:09PM | 0 recs
Re: i think this will be my last comment to you.

Hey CG,

I'm sorry I started this calling out portion of this thread whereby you get embroiled in some silly finger pointing exersize.  My only intent was to, hopefully, never have to read Nancy's crap troll diaries ever again, not to start (or continue as the case may be) a shitstorm where you, Dtaylor(integer of choice), and newcomer (mr x) would spend hours and days embroiled in inexirable confrontation.  For this I apologize.

I guess that if I could embed as well as you I would have included that wonderful hungry troll video you embeded long ago.

And to the rest of you, as Jon Stewart would say:

"Settle down"

by Why Not 2008-11-07 01:57PM | 0 recs
np why not!

do you mean this trollilicious video?

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 02:09PM | 0 recs
Re: np why not!

Yah.. that's the stuff!!

ROFL

by Why Not 2008-11-07 02:19PM | 0 recs
Re: since you're new....

What makes you think I'm new?  

I know who Student Guy is.  I know that he tried to make nice with the TexasDarlins and Alegres of this blog.  If a NQ asshole stomps in here and writes about how racist/sexist/Muslim/Communist Obama is, he's a troll.  When I call him an asshole for it, that doesn't make me a troll and it especially doesn't make me worse than him.

It seems like you ignore the trolls that come from  NoQuarter and RedState while complaining loudly about the people who have a problem with them.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-07 08:32AM | 0 recs
didn't we go over this yesterday.

your personal innuendos have no weight friend.  the fact that you are not new incrminates you more and further proves my point that your intentions are exactly whatthey seem.  

well then, sockpuppet (im assuming that is what you are since you claim you had a different handle) you spend your time causing shit and ill spend my time talking politics - deal?

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 09:41AM | 0 recs
oh and friendly advice.

you'd best keep your trap shut about SG - he was one of the best posters here and a HUGE influence to the progressive blogosphere.

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 09:42AM | 0 recs
Re: oh and friendly advice.

I didn't say anything negative about SG. I said that he was too nice to the folks that were polluting the discourse here (not because he agreed with them, but because he was just too open-hearted).

That said, just because he was a nice guy doesn't mean I can't disagree with him.  No amount of polite words or compromise will make the folks at NQ or TD respond with words that are acceptable at progressive blogs.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-07 09:51AM | 0 recs
Re: What's the point

Are you suggesting that with all the trouble that Bush has left us to clean up we should give priority to amending the Constitution so as to provide for the direct election of the Vice President?

I'm flabbergasted that you would waste so much of your own time dreaming up this kind of crap.
 

by QTG 2008-11-07 06:01AM | 0 recs
Do her words

and actions mean nothing to you?

Please stop.

geeez.

by kevin22262 2008-11-07 06:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

Given what went down here in California on tuesday I am glad she does not carry that stain and maintains her standing in the gay and lesbian community. Not so at this point with Obama and the african american community. Lots of angry disappointed folks who frankly are feeling used. It breaks my heart that I gave so much of my time phone banking next to other democrats who were nice to my face and than went into the voting booth and voted for prop 8. 1 in 6 democrats who voted for Obama also voted yes on prop 8 and that hurts bad.

by JasonMoreland 2008-11-07 06:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

Jason, I understand but please go back and check the exit polls.

Democrats voted against prop 8 by a margin of 64%.

End of Diary hijack

by jsfox 2008-11-07 06:29AM | 0 recs
Come on now

Not everyone who voted for Obama is a Democrat.  Republicans and Independants both voted for him as well, and they may have other (misinformed) beliefs on gay rights.

Further, the "Yes on 8" campaign was well funded, sleazy, and misleading.  You can fool some of the people all of the time, you know.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-07 06:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Come on now

So you admit is was OBAMA VOTERS who helped pass prop 8. Thanks for validating my point as it has been validated elsewhere.

by JasonMoreland 2008-11-07 06:53AM | 0 recs
You're off your rocker

You're blaming Obama and his supporters for people who voted for him having an opinion, perhaps coerced, on one issue?

People have a lot of reasons to vote for politicians.  A lot of people who share none of Obama's policy positions still voted for him because McCain was a disaster.

Anyway, I'm pretty sure ALL of the people that voted for Obama are against nuclear annihilation, and 99% of them love their mommies.  Under your system of blame/justification, that's gotta outweigh your one wedge issue.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-07 07:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Come on now

Jason once again I urge you to go back to  the exit polls it wasn't just Obama voters it was voters across the spectrum. The only demographic you carried were white women. This a failure of messaging and out reach on a rather large scale.

The No on Prop 8 effort depended on peoples better angels, never  a good idea.

by jsfox 2008-11-07 08:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

Jason,
 You claim that "1 in 6 democrats who voted for Obama also voted yes on prop 8 and that hurts bad." I would just point out that there may have been independents and republicans who voted for Obama, and that regardless of that possibility -  the argument is either a non sequiter or it's the logical fallacy of "Affirming the Consequent"  since it draws a conclusion from premises that do not support that conclusion by assuming Q implies P on the basis that P implies Q. I'm not an expert on Logic, but I don't think you have provided enough evidence to blame the result on Democrats....

I whole-heartedly agree with you that the result is deplorable.

by QTG 2008-11-07 06:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

I wonder how many people who thought Obama was an Arab/Muslim/Terrorist/Communist that voted FOR him.  Take a look at exit polling and you may be surprized.  There are people who vote in completely illogical ways.  This does not mean that "1 in 6 democrats" voted yes on prop 8.

The main thing here is that prop 8 will be challenged, and there is still time to rectify it.  Wether or not it passed, the main thing in this election was to put the people in power who could make lasting change in government.  Those are the people who will be the best allies against prop 8 and the like (ballot measures are usually an attempt at circumventing the legislative authority of the state congress where these sorts of measures never pass).  Remeber it is the Legislative branch that passes laws and the judicial branch that invalidates unconsitutional ones (like this one), the governor/president signs.  Ballot proposals are generally 1. a gimmick to motivate people or 2. an attempt to pass by uniformed voters what cannot be passed by responsible elected officials.

Watch for movement in this issue as Obama makes new appointments to the federal courts and this discriminiation begins to be overturned.

by Why Not 2008-11-07 08:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

What makes you think that if they had voted for Clinton that they still wouldn't have voted for Prop 8? Clinton also is on record that marriage should be between a man and a woman.

I love Senator Clinton, and I'm thrilled that she will remain my senator rather than be VP. But her actions and rhetoric on gay rights is pretty much the same as Obama's.

by fsm 2008-11-07 06:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

African American turnout would have been lower and would not have contributed to a four point spread in favor of prop 8. I don't play political correctness and am not afraid to say what a lot of people feel. Black voters stabbed gays and lesbians who voted for and campaigned for Obama in the back. %70 of them are bigots plan and simple. It says a lot about a people who have demanded  equal treatment and have it under the law and prevented another minority from attaining same rights. You folks have been decrying racist whites for months now lets be fair and do the same to our own bigots.

by JasonMoreland 2008-11-07 06:58AM | 0 recs
whoa there.

that's a pretty lofty and questionable statement.  70% of blacks are bigots????  i share your dissapointment about prop 8 - but that is a pretty inflammatory remark if there ever was.

by canadian gal 2008-11-07 07:01AM | 0 recs
FUCK YOU.

by spacemanspiff 2008-11-07 07:31AM | 0 recs
Re: FUCK YOU.

Mojo'd for being logically unassailable.

by QTG 2008-11-07 09:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

Your scapegoating of African-Americans has already been debunked.  Perhaps you should do some research of your own, or at least read more that the (misguided) top line of a crappy exit poll.

Let me help you out a little.  Here is a person that actually did their research:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1 1/7/34645/1235/704/656272

Have fun, and get back to us when you get your head out of your rear.

by Why Not 2008-11-07 09:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

And youth vote turnout would also have been lower, and that would have helped Prop 8. What's your point? That you hate how so many black people voted? That you hate how so many young people voted?

I also hate the social conservatism in these communities. But the Democrat leaders have ALL been wimps on this issue: neither Clinton nor Obama supported same-sex marriage.

So you're basically attacking black people for not being further to the left than Clinton and Obama were. Or you're attacking them for voting.

Neither's one very sane attitude to take.

by Aris Katsaris2 2008-11-07 09:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the vice pr

You're free to vote Republican next time.  I share your sadness about prop 8, but if you were voting Democratic simply as a deal to get prop 8 rejected, you maybe should have told someone?

btw, Asians and Catholics supported prop 8 in similar numbers.  I don't get this fixation on demonizing the black community, but I can tell you that it makes organizing incredibly difficult.  You don't insult the people you're trying to win over - especially if everyone can see that you're singling them out for no reason.

by Jess81 2008-11-07 08:00AM | 0 recs
Yes we did!

PRESIDENT ELECT OBAMA!!!!

Feel free to fight the primary wars some more; I'm busy celebrating.

by thezzyzx 2008-11-07 06:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted...

President-elect Obama chose a Vice President that he trusted and was comfortable with.

Wanting the job isn't enough to receive the job.  There are reports that Kerry is actively seeking the SOS job--which I would be all for by the way--but just because he wants it badly, doesn't mean he should receive it.

President-elect Obama must make smart choices, not politically correct ones.

by RussTC3 2008-11-07 06:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence that Hillary wanted to be the VP

Can we please get off this already.  I am begging you.

by Steve M 2008-11-07 06:25AM | 0 recs
Re: WHO CARES
Water under the bridge, Nancy, it's a moot point.
Your diaries get less relevant every day.
One hopes that you will return to that empty wasteland you call a blog and never come back again, but I see that is too much to hope for...
by skohayes 2008-11-07 06:30AM | 0 recs
I want to live in a Nancy-free MyDD.

That doesn't mean that I'm entitled to it.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-07 06:30AM | 0 recs
Re: I want to live in a Nancy-free MyDD.

 You DESERVE it! You are the most qualified to live in a Nancy-free MyDD! NKMA!

by QTG 2008-11-07 06:47AM | 0 recs
You're sweet, but...

...nah.  I'm like Hillary Clinton.  I'm okay with only having what I've actually earned.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-07 07:42AM | 0 recs
Re: You're sweet, but...

 I don't care what you say, I will defend you anyway. You're obligated to say things, because you are the deserving one, but I don't have such restrictions, and I will fight for you til the death!

by QTG 2008-11-07 09:17AM | 0 recs
She's the next Ted Kennedy.

Senator for life.  Not too shabby.  And, to be blunt, I can't see her calling Barack "boss."  She runs better when she runs free.

by Geekesque 2008-11-07 06:52AM | 0 recs
Perhaps

I could see her running for Governor of New York, too.  Running a state with an economy bigger than most countries isn't too shabby, either.

by Dracomicron 2008-11-07 07:43AM | 0 recs
Do we really need to give this any attention?

I mean really.

by Travis Stark 2008-11-07 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence ...

Our future is ahead of us, not behind.

We look back to guide our path forward but not to dictate it.

by wblynch 2008-11-07 07:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence

Nancy, fix your tags, because as it stands you're quoting yourself in the Newsweek article.

Which is actually kind of funny - I was wondering why the writing screeched to a halt and then continued in the short, simple, vaguely nonsensical declarative sentences - I call it "Hemmingway with Brain Damage" - style that you're known for.

by Jess81 2008-11-07 08:04AM | 0 recs
Re: Evidence

I mojo'd for the chuckle I got when I misread this as "go quote yourself"...

PUMA is the new Onanism

by QTG 2008-11-07 09:21AM | 0 recs
I wanted to be vice president

but I wasn't even vetted!  I'm so angry and frustrated by this that I can't see straight.

by JJE 2008-11-07 08:10AM | 0 recs
You can't always get what you want . . . Nt

by steampunkx 2008-11-07 11:05AM | 0 recs
well, Hillary should hold Barack

to his election promises. If Obama delivers, she doesn't challenge him in '012. If he doesn't deliver or is faltering, come roaring back. Of course I'd rather Obama win 2 terms and then her run, cuz she won't be that old.

by Lakrosse 2008-11-07 11:10AM | 0 recs
Re: well, Hillary should hold Barack

Hillary run against Barack?

I think we know how this movie ends.

by Jess81 2008-11-07 01:28PM | 0 recs
Algebra

NK(Diary)=Poop

by fogiv 2008-11-07 11:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Algebra

Fogiv, you're the one who's ruining discourse around here with your salty language and your criticism.  NK has a right to say whatever she wants about that misogynistic/sexist/man-pig Obama and you have the right to politely cheer her on.  Anything else is trollish behavior.

by the mystical vortexes of sedona 2008-11-07 12:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Algebra

Heh.  Truth Troll.

by fogiv 2008-11-07 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Algebra

Wow, what a huge logarithm.

by Jess81 2008-11-07 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Algebra

Obviously, I have no rhythm.  Or logs.

by fogiv 2008-11-07 01:44PM | 0 recs
Should the VP be separetely elected?

I understand why diaries like this irritate many people who, like me, have supported the President Elect. But Nancy's assertion that "the people should elect the VP in the future" raises a question that should be taken seriously.

Personally, though, I disagree with this assertion. The original Constitution had the vice presidency go to the persona with second most electoral votes, but that quickly proved to be  mess. The President needs to be able to pick a Vice President with whom he or she can work well--otherwise, the Vice Presidency would be meaningless except as a hindrance to the executive branch. I don't think selection of the VP candidate by the presidential candidate is undemocratin; if the people don't like a presidential candidate's choice of a running mate, they can exercise their Democratic power by voting against that ticket (as I think we have seen.)

by slvn 2008-11-09 06:50AM | 0 recs

Diaries

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