Oregon Town Hall Meeting

      Did any of the MSM stations carry the town hall meeting for undecided voters last night in Oregon?  If so, I guess I missed it.  The town hall event was covered by the local station KGW.  Hillary Clinton met with the voters and took their questions, I think, for a full hour.  Barack Obama was invited to participate, but (of course) declined.  I keep checking C-Span to see if they covered it, but apparently not.

      I would like to see the whole event, so if anyone knows how I can do this, please do let me know.  I did find a local news clip on the event.  Click below to see this clip.  Be sure to watch to the end for interviews with attending citizens who give their impressions of Hillary.  Too bad Barack wasn't there, so they could have also given their impressions of meeting him close-up and one-on-one.  

http://www.kgw.com/video/video-index.htm l?nvid=246323

Tags: Election, Primary (all tags)



Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

Thank you, Hillary, for answering the questions of the concerned citizens of Oregon -- as you will continue to answer the  questions of voters in all the remaining primaries.  Good job, Hill!

by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:03PM | 0 recs

and will continue taking questions in the GE!

by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

Obama's had several town the meetings the last few days. I watched one streaming on cnn.com from South Dakota on Friday.

by politicsmatters 2008-05-18 04:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

Barack was in Portland today where he met with 75,000 Oregonians.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-05-18 03:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

I know.  He prefers the big scripted 'fire it up' rallies!  Why didn't he take station KGW's offer to do the televised town hall meeting?

by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

Simple, it would have been free press for his opponent who is currently behind in pledged and super-delegates.  Clinton was well known to do the same thing in her runs for senate in NY primaries.

by shalca 2008-05-18 03:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

Sen. Obama actually does a pretty good mix of big and small events for the most part. It's just his big events are SO big they get reported on more.

As to why he didn't accept the offer, it's because he had little to gain and it wasn't worth the potential downsides. Besides the fact the front runner always has more to lose than the other candidates in head to head meetings, there's even less reason than normal to campaign together.

Sen. Obama has no trouble at all drawing as many people as he would like to any event he holds, so he can meet as many people as he wants in whatever setting he prefers. He also has to weigh the risk of Sen. Clinton being goaded into, or choosing to, attack in some way that can't be walked back for the general or which becomes the media narrative (right now it's Democrats getting behind him and Sen. Clinton winding up her campaign) and pushes back the party coming together.

by werehippy 2008-05-18 03:36PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

This diary reads as deeply disingenuous.  You make is sound as if Obama is avoiding the public.  Yet he met with 75,000 members in Portland today.  I also requested for both candidates to appear in my living room so that I could make an informed decision.  Both turned out to be too arrogant to spend time with me.  Perhaps they were afraid of the scrutiny.  Cowardly democrats with no regard for common folk like me are deeply undemocratic.  Now I just don't know how I am supposed to make up my mind.  I'd vote for my daughter, who has devoted a great deal of time to sharing her views with me, giving me almost unlimited access...but she's 4.

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 03:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

so much self-pity in you post...

by zerosumgame 2008-05-18 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

Yes.  It sucks to be snubbed by people who are running national campaigns and are obsessed with petty considerations like how to reach the most people most effectively in a limited time frame.

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 03:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

That's verbal irony, hardly self -pity.

Self-pity would be, "boo-hoo, I wish 75,000 people would show up at my candidate's rallies."

by toyomama 2008-05-18 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

he met with a self-selected group that had already made up their minds. he snubbed those who might ask him hard questions needing details and the like to decide.

by zerosumgame 2008-05-18 03:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

He didn't want to legitimize HRC's campaign by appearing with her in a head to head. He does plenty of town halls and doesn't need to be appearing with her.

by Becky G 2008-05-18 04:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

Yeah right.
You can read the minds of 75,000 people, and determine that they all had already made up their minds about who they would vote for.

My guess is a lot of the folks in Portland went to the rally to see for themselves what all the enthusiasm is about, and the make up their minds for themselves.
Just a guess, I don't have your mind reading powers.

by toyomama 2008-05-18 04:31PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

Did he take any one-on-one questions at the big rally?

by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

I assume not.  It must be because he never does so.  Never participates in debates or gives interviews.  Never.  Come on now.  This is just a cheap shot at someone who is making tactical decisions on how to persuade the most people most effectively within a particular contest.  Making chicken noises at him--even by implication and insinuation--is playground stuff.

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 03:23PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

he sure is avoiding them like the plague now...

by zerosumgame 2008-05-18 03:57PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

Why should Barack share the spotlight with a challenger that is so far behind that she doesn't stand much chance of winning?

No front runner in politics would do that.

by Lefty Coaster 2008-05-18 04:06PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

That is your self-serving interpretation.  He's running the most effective campaign he knows how.  That event was not the best use of his time and resources at this juncture.  As a presumable supporter of HRC, I am sure you respect her pugilistic image as a 'fighter.'  Boxing is about knowing when to jab, when to go for the cross, when to glide, deflect, dance, weave, and then time your blows.  There will be plenty more opportunities to see and hear Obama debate and answer questions before this campaign is over.  I want a president who understands timing and tactics.  Calling him a scaredycat and begrudging him strategic acumen is about as serious a political argument as one finds among second-graders at recess.  Of course, if your only interest is in portraying him negatively regardless of anything else...

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 04:09PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

That is your self-serving interpretation.

by zerosumgame 2008-05-18 04:20PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

It's like a baseball game, ZSG, when the home team is already ahead in runs scored, they don't come up to bat again in the bottom of the 9th.

by toyomama 2008-05-18 04:37PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

Are you seriously arguing that your interpretation, that a candidate for the highest office in the land who has devoted hours upon hours upon hours to seeking out publicity and attention is hiding from the media and the public, makes more sense on the merits?  If that is your honest position, as opposed to partisan smear, then we look at politics very very differently.  If the second possibility holds, then my understanding of your response is that it amounts to little more than "I'm rubber and you're glue, whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.  Na na na na poo poo.

I think HRC deserves more thoughtful advocacy than that.

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 04:42PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

I am just going by his actions. and right now he is avoiding any appearance he is not totally in control of and that includes the questions asked him. Meanwhile HRC is taking any chance she gets to be upfront and involved in actual debate. Now looking at these 2 examples are you seriously going to keep on going down this road of claiming he is not in hide mode?

by zerosumgame 2008-05-18 04:45PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

Yes.  I am considering the context.  He is absolutely not in what you call 'hide mode.'  Several other comments on this thread enumerate the events of this sort that he has been engaged in.  But my point is that they are both highlighting events that make political sense given their different positions.  I doubt if she was in his place she'd be acting much differently.  If so, that would represent tactical obtuseness.  What I object to is your refusal to consider the political context of their respective tactics in order to paint him as craven and her as a morally pure and publicly concerned paragon of empathy.  They are both doing what makes sense for their campaigns at this juncture.  Your commitment to painting him in the worst light isn't going to win her any more fans.  My advocacy of him highlights the fact that his campaign is focused and politically astute, which I would think you would respect in a likely nominee.  He is not dodging the public.  Arguing so willfully ignores his schedule.  But again, if you find it emotionally gratifying to lob spitballs at a leader of your party, there is not much more I can do to answer you.

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 05:09PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

Also, you are not just going by his actions.  No one can just lay out the facts as if they are not subject to interpretation.  You are interpreting his actions.  So am I.  I interpret his actions in context.  You merely reduce the context to fit your narrative.  It's not just an unethical move, it's also intellectually sloppy.

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 05:32PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

That is your self-serving interpretation.

by zerosumgame 2008-05-18 06:37PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

Ahem...you seem to be repeating yourself.  But, if I may ask a few honest questions, do you admit that you are interpreting at all?  Do you deny that your interpretation of his actions is based on an extremely interested narrow selection of his action?  And what does your interpretation serve?  Are you interested in anything besides taking potshots at Obama?  What does thumbing your nose at me get you?  Are you trying to convince me of something?  If so, what is your point?  That Obama is a coward?  If so, can you explain why a coward would choose to run for president?  Presidents, after all, have been many things, but few if any have been cowards.  I think it's clear that this line is not going to convince me of HRC's superior candidacy.  I am offering you an interpretation that looks at more than the fact that she agreed to certain campaign events and he declined.  The interpretation I offer presents grounds for future cooperation.  Yours seems to be little more than redundant nose-thumbing.

by Strummerson 2008-05-18 07:04PM | 0 recs
Re: 75,000

That is absolutely not true. I listened to a town hall meeting on Friday from SD and there were plenty of questions. Also, I read a report from a health care forum in OR and there were very sharp questions.

9:30 tonight he has a town hall meeting in Pendelton, OR

On Monday, Obama has two town hall meetings in MT and then a rally in MT.

So of those four events, three are town hall meetings. (Information via The Page).

by politicsmatters 2008-05-18 04:06PM | 0 recs
He's done town meetings as well..

There will be no "town meetings" with the two of them on stages at once at this point. That time has passed.

by Travis Stark 2008-05-18 03:14PM | 0 recs
Re: time has passed

not the point.  He had the chance to take questions from undecided voters and declined.  Some of these voters did say they were planning to attend his rally, but were disappointed he wasn't there to take questions at station KGW's town hall forum.

by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:19PM | 0 recs
Were they to be at the same forum?

If so, then he was right to decline. A debate is a debate, even if you call it a forum. There are other opportunities to get questions answered.

by Travis Stark 2008-05-18 03:20PM | 0 recs
Re: debate?
I think he was given the option of dividing the hour in half.  He would take questions from undecided voters on his own for a half hour -- just one-on-one with the citizens.  No debate involved.
by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

I hope someone can answer my question. I'd like to see the complete town hall forum.  Since it was televised, albeit locally, there must be a way to see the whole thing.  Thanks!

by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:23PM | 0 recs
Re: MSM Blackout

Maybe I should have entitled this diary "MSM BLACKOUT" since the national media didn't bother to cover the town meeting and make it available to the country at large.

by moevaughn 2008-05-18 03:26PM | 0 recs
Re: MSM Blackout

Why would they?  There are only five states and one territory that have yet to vote.  They've got bills to pay, and I don't think this would even get the ratings of, say, a ballgame.  Why take an hour of programming time on a national network and devote it to a single candidate?

by mistersite 2008-05-18 03:34PM | 0 recs
Re: MSM Blackout

Really? Now news organizations have a duty to prop up their competition?  I usually don't see FOXnews replaying the full CNN debates or vice versa.  If you have a problem with KGW not making the video more available, attack them, not the entire media.

by shalca 2008-05-18 03:38PM | 0 recs
Sorry HRC didn't get free media
by JJE 2008-05-18 03:39PM | 0 recs
more resources

If you want to volunteer to work the phones,


I suspect it's going by your zip code so if you want to work the phones in Oregon, you need to pick an Oregon zip.

This was extremely good actually, she hit it out of the ball park.

I'm personally disgusted at the media blackout and it is a black out on Clinton.  Not a word on Bill and Chelsea's meetings in the local press.

Further info:

Registered voters in Oregon:

http://blog.oregonlive.com/mapesonpoliti cs/2008/05/a_first_look_at_oregons_new_v o.html

Number of turned in ballots as of Friday (29%)

http://www.oregonvotes.org/may202008/cum .pdf

by Robert Oak 2008-05-18 03:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

This is what happens when, for all intents and purposes, you have been mathematically eliminated.

People move on.

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-05-18 04:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

By the way, the events for Bill and Hillary Clinton tomorrow are all rallies. Two of three Obama events are town hall meetings. (The Page)

by politicsmatters 2008-05-18 04:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Oregon Town Hall Meeting

 How did that whole "Oregon Town Hall Meeting" thing go? Do you think that may have made the difference between Obama's predicted victory margin and the ultimate result?

by xdem 2008-05-22 07:33AM | 0 recs


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