Marriage Backlash

I received this headline today from


Has anyone noticed this socially divisive issue always comes to the forefront during a presidential election year?  When Massachusetts made similar headlines in 2004, the backlash helped to defeat John Kerry.  Maybe Kerry would have won Ohio if the conservative voters there weren't all fired up over this specific issue. (and did they ever count the votes fairly and squarely, but that's another whole subject).  Now in 2008 the right-wing again has fodder to fuel their religious activists, who otherwise are less than enthused with this year's Republican nominee.

Tags: California, Election (all tags)



First thing I said when I heard about it

"Oh, how wonderful for this to happen in an election year."

Religious groups in Florida managed to get gay marriage on the ballot for this fall, despite the fact that state law is already prohbiting it.  How nice of them to give gay rights activists a chance to vote for their issue.

I'm looking forward to the day when people don't care about gay people one way or another.

by Dracomicron 2008-06-17 07:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Marriage Backlash

Maybe.  We'll see.  McCain mouths the usual bromides about one-man-one-woman marriage being the foundation of Western civilization, but his actual position is a carefully positioned federalist one: leave the definition of marriage to the states.  It lets him say he opposes same-sex marriage in principle while calling for deference to states' decisions.  Hardly a position to whip up the Christianist right.

Don't forget he vocally opposed the Marriage Amendment in 2004 on federalist grounds.  (LINK: 4/mccain.marriage/).  The religious right is highly skeptical of this position, and of him.  If he wants to turn them out in November, he'll have to work a lot harder than this.

by Koan 2008-06-17 07:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Marriage Backlash

I don't know, you do realize I am posting from the middle of the Atlantic because my dear Massachusetts fell into the ocean since we allowed it?

by Dog Chains 2008-06-17 07:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Marriage Backlash

McCain can't make too much of a big deal out of this one, because he's weak (for a GOPer) on the issue.

From the petulant fake Democrats PUMA-wannabe meeting with McCain's people:

Another person who was present, but asked not to be named to avoid conflict with fellow Democrats, said he'd pressed a McCain staffer on McCain's position on same-sex marriage.

The staffer "said it was the same as [John] Kerry's position," he said.


by mistersite 2008-06-17 07:57AM | 0 recs
I'm close to calling bullshit

I've never been to before just now, but I was skeptical that any democrat would be pushing an obvious republican talking point/ scare tactic. ALL CAPS EVEN!!!

So I went to the site. And I don't see anything about California gay marriage. It's pretty much all about Kucinich's impeachment drive.

So, link please!

by Mobar 2008-06-17 07:59AM | 0 recs
Re: I'm close to calling

I recived this by email.  It was a message sent out by (Bob Fertik) which included a petition. The headline was in bold, but I didn't know how to put in bold on diary, so I did caps instead.  If you're on their email list, you should have got one. You can sign petition by going to Million for Marriage website.  

CC email:

California marriages spark right-wing backlash

Democrats. com to me
show details 9:57 AM (3 hours ago)

from: Democrats. com <>

dateTue, Jun 17, 2008 at 9:57 AM
subjectCalifornia marriages spark right-wing backlash

When the California Supreme Court ruled that denying same-sex couples the right to marry is unconstitutional, we came one step closer to achieving true marriage equality. But now anti-GLBT groups are working even harder to deny benefits to GLBT couples on both state and federal levels.  This is a battle we can win. I hope you'll take a moment to sign the Million For Marriage petition.

Bob Fertik

by moevaughn 2008-06-17 09:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Marriage Backlash

I don't consider my right to marry my partner of many years as "fodder"!!!

by rf7777 2008-06-17 08:16AM | 0 recs
Re: Marriage Backlash

Seriously, if people in this state have a problem with the inherent rights of the Constitution being granted to all citizens, then they need to get the hell outta California.  They'd be most welcome at Foxboro Church.

by PD1769 2008-06-17 08:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Marriage Backlash

The one difference is Ohio passed an amendment in 2004.  No such amendment this year.

by yitbos96bb 2008-06-17 08:29AM | 0 recs

Thanks for this info.  Good point.

by moevaughn 2008-06-17 09:31AM | 0 recs
There is no convenient time

to push for peoples' rights.

by catfish2 2008-06-17 08:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Marriage Backlash

The backlash peaked in 2004.  It didn't work in 2006, and won't work in 2008.  And to echo another poster, Mass hasn't fallen into the sea.

by NewOaklandDem 2008-06-17 09:06AM | 0 recs


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