A Toast to the DNC:

May your glass be always half full.

The DNC owed and still owes the Florida Democratic Party and Democratic voters a big, belated thank-you and also a big apology.  

The DNC could have given the Florida Democrats the belated acknowledgement and praise they deserve for getting voter verification/paper trail legislation last year through a legislature in which Republicans outnumber Democrats by two to one.  And the national Party could have taken this opportunity for apologizing for their earlier failure to celebrate that great achievement, which the Democrats had been working hard on since the year 2000.

When the State Republican legislature bundled the new primary date with the legislation for a paper ballot trail, they knew exactly what they were doing, putting the Florida Democrats in an over-the barrel, no-win situation.  Did the national Party, the DNC, come to the Florida Dems defense and help out?  No.  Even when the State of New Hampshire came to Florida's defense, and put out a public statement that New Hampshire was ok with the new Florida primary date because it still followed the four early states, the DNC still went overboard punishing their own and throwing their own Democratic voters out with the bathwater.

Last year, the DNC Rules Committee meted out an over-the-top punishment for something the Florida Party couldn't stop, the change of the primary date to January 29.  As pointed out by others before, when the Florida Dem Party tried to negotiate with the Repubs for a later date of Feb. 5th, they were met with laughter and derision on the Chamber Floor from the Florida Republicans.  The DNC owes The Florida Dems an apology for screwing up when they punished their own for something Florida Republicans did.  Why didn't the DNC initially come to Florida's defense?  That's what they should have done.  It's the DNC Rules Committee, not the voters,  who should be punished for not protecting their own Democrats, both the Florida Democratic Party and also the Florida Democratic voters themselves.  

The DNC had the opportunity to redeem itself on May 31.  Instead of admitting the error of its own ways, however, it further insulted Florida Democrats by telling them they all are only half persons. Half a person; half a vote.  

If the DNC's goal is Party unity, then they must apologize to:

 >> Florida Democratic Party for not sticking up for them when they were shafted by the Republicans, and for failing to appreciate the role the FlaDems played in the passage of legislation in Florida critical to protecting the voting process (paper trail back-up);

 >> the Clinton and Obama Campaigns for its part in creating this whole mess and derailing our primary process in perhaps the most important election of our lifetime;

 >> the individual Democratic voters, whose votes have been disregarded by their own Party.  (Giving them half a vote doesn't cut it; it just adds insult to injury.)

Since the DNC on Saturday was not big enough to apologize and restore every vote counted and legally certified, then:

 DNC, may your own glass be always half full/empty.  

The DNC Rules Committee compromise on Michigan is even worse than the affront to Florida.  What is the Democratic Party doing rewarding someone who actually took his name off the ballot?  This is entitlement gone amok.  Taking one's name off a ballot must not be rewarded!  It was a tactical decision on the candidate's part, and he ought to accept the consequences of his own action.  Uncommitted means just that:  uncommitted.  Uncommitted delegates represent uncommitted votes.  When they get to the convention, they can vote either way, but must go there uncommitted.

I end with a final toast to the DNC, the same as before:   may your glass be always half full or half empty, as the case may be.  You have deemed millions of your own voters as only half persons.  The respect, or lack thereof, you have shown your own voters is all you deserve in return.

Tags: DNC, Election, Florida, Michigan, Primary, RBC (all tags)



Re: A Toast to the DNC:

I assume you'll condemn the RNC as well?  And Terry McAulliffe for threatening Carl Levin with the same fate for Michigan in 2004 if they went ahead and did in that year what they would eventually do in 2008?

by Reaper0Bot0 2008-06-02 01:44PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

No, he won't.

This has been another edition of easy answers to easy questions.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-02 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

Yea most democrats civilian or elected are often cowards.

We basically let the republicans of MI and FL make us look like bitches (sorry, Im under 30, that word is way to appropriate here)

Lets let the FL/MI fiasco be the LAST black eye the now irrelevant Republican party throws at us.

With the right ammount of unity internally, and strong condemenation of the disaster known as GWB, and high opitism of America's infamous ability to bounce back from any tragedy we should not just win the presidency, but massive down ticket victories too.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-02 01:53PM | 0 recs
"(sorry, Im under 30, that word is way to


So, we're to take it that youth is an excuse for anything and everything?

Sorry, but I'm over 45, and excuses don't fly.

by aggieric 2008-06-02 06:32PM | 0 recs
by nogo postal 2008-06-02 01:44PM | 0 recs
is this

a concern or GBCW diary?

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-02 01:45PM | 0 recs
What a nice diary

good for you writing such a wonderful diary.

by Student Guy 2008-06-02 01:46PM | 0 recs
Re: What a nice diary

SG help me out here, I read it and I don't catch the wonderful part.

Plus looking downthread it doesn't seem that the poster meant much anything positive.

He actually agrees with some idiot smearing the DNC as corrupt.

I love your positivity kick but be careful.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-02 02:17PM | 0 recs
I was attempting to be a parody

troll like HillsMyGal, it is the only way I can respond to stuff like this.

by Student Guy 2008-06-02 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: I was attempting to be a parody

dummy me, I took the weekend off from MYdd and now I feel all wobbly.

rockon SG,  although HillsMyGal, love or hate is a brilliant parody troll.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-02 02:49PM | 0 recs

You keep forgetting which account you're logged in as.  Shame on you, HillsMyGal!  :-P

by BPK80 2008-06-02 04:47PM | 0 recs

I'll toast anything for free booze!

by libertyleft 2008-06-02 01:47PM | 0 recs
You thought the booze was free?!

Boy, are you going to be surprised at the end of the night when the barkeep presents you with your tab...

by mistersite 2008-06-02 01:52PM | 0 recs
going outside for a smoke....


by libertyleft 2008-06-02 01:59PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

Actually they count them as 0.012598120551475265% at first and then 0.006269206909501908% afterwards.  50% is really bad math in a representive election.  The theory of one person one vote only counts in non presidential elections.

by kasjogren 2008-06-02 01:48PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

If the two states involved had been let's say Alaska and Wyoming, the DNC would not have even bothered.  They were afraid of retaliation by swing states Michigan and Florida in November.  This whole thing was a setup.  They granted status so the people from those states could go to the convention, and yet they did nothing to stop The Chosen One (you know who) from winning.

by handsomegent 2008-06-02 01:49PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

Wait, so you're arguing that Florida and Michigan should've lost all their delegates? That's very brave of you.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-02 01:52PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

They should have lost NONE of their delegates and Obama shouldn't have gotten a single delegate in Michigan since he was NOT on the ballot.

by handsomegent 2008-06-02 02:23PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

No one should have because it was an illegitimate election.  

See how that works?

by LtWorf 2008-06-02 02:32PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

If the election were illegitimate then why were any delegates awarded at all?

by handsomegent 2008-06-02 02:47PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

Haven't been paying attention have you?

The awarded them as a political maneuver to take away a RETHUG talking point.  

And you'll notice they were awarded the way the Michigan DP wanted.  Thanks for paying attention.

by LtWorf 2008-06-02 04:16PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

The Michigan DP should have nothing to do with it.  Obama was not on the ballot, period.  Sometimes the English language is too hard for some to comprehend.

by handsomegent 2008-06-02 04:26PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

The Michigan Democratic Party should have no say so as to how their delegates are allocated?

Game. Set. Match.

Ta. Ta.

by LtWorf 2008-06-02 05:30PM | 0 recs
Toss those 30,000 write-ins as well

Alas the tortured logic you work under.

I demand all the delegates in an unsanctioned primary.  Oh wait, I demand that those Obama write ins should be legally tossed in an illegal election.  That is "fair reflection" right?

I want what's due to me by "cheating" and you, as a rule follower, get nothing.

Or did you forget that the 4 states pledge included "participating" and "campaigning" and in case you forgot what the definition of "participating" is, please go look it up.

Cause it looks like you need remedial English as well as a remedial logic class.

by Regenman 2008-06-02 06:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Toss those 30,000 write-ins as well

NOT one person voted for Obama and therefore he shouldn't be awarded a single delegate---English language. They didn't participate but the liar Obama CAMPAIGNED in Florida didn't he?

by handsomegent 2008-06-03 01:04PM | 0 recs

Do you think they have succeeded in easing retaliation?  Did they achieve Unity?

by moevaughn 2008-06-02 01:54PM | 0 recs
bad kitty

by Hillarywillwin 2008-06-02 01:52PM | 0 recs
How's Hillary?

cartman or the kitty?

by Al Rodgers 2008-06-02 02:23PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

Rec'ed. As a Florida voter who voted in the primary, the 'half vote decision' doesn't count the other half of my vote.  

by grlpatriot 2008-06-02 02:11PM | 0 recs
HA! - you should have voted twice

by Al Rodgers 2008-06-02 02:27PM | 0 recs
still time - you can fly in to South Dakota

by Al Rodgers 2008-06-02 02:28PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

thanks.  I live in NH, but my mother, a lifelong New Deal Dem, lives in Florida, and she is not half a person!

by moevaughn 2008-06-02 02:52PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

But her delegate IS.

And you should tell her she should be very dissapointed in state to elect so many incompetent republicans that are now the majority along with incredibly weak Democrats who are afraid of them.

I am almost starting to think Florida is a lost state, someone wake me up when their activists take back the state.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-02 03:00PM | 0 recs
The DNC is toast

They represent a corrupt party.

The people who allocated votes are no better than Karl Rove and his followers.

by katmandu1 2008-06-02 02:12PM | 0 recs
Re: The DNC is toast

what did you get banned like an hour ago?

Wow, luckily I have no worries of getting banned anymore.

by CrushTheGOP2008 2008-06-02 02:15PM | 0 recs
Re: The DNC is toast

like your pun!  when Howard Dean came to NH convention recently, he wasn't too personable.  maybe he's getting a little grouchy, since he's soon toast.  from Boston Globe report, described as:

"climbing out of his rental car with hardly a word for anyone before retreating into a holding area."
Kenneth M. Curtis, a former governor of Maine who was chairman of the DNC in the late 1970s and is now a superdelegate living in Florida, said Dean should "step down and let somebody new come in who wasn't tainted by this whole mess."

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articl es/2008/05/27/burden_on_dean_to_bring_ha rmony/?page=3  

by moevaughn 2008-06-02 02:20PM | 0 recs
but Hillary cites Karl Rove

Terry McAuliffe:     We've just seen a release from Karl Rove's office, I'm sure you've seen, the electoral college map, Hillary Clinton does much better than Senator Obama.  Hillary Clinton wins the general election, Senator Obama doesn't.  And I think for these super delegates, at the end of this process, Norah, who has the best shot of winning the general election. [SIC]

Norah O'Donnell:   You know, it's funny that you mention that, because I did get this release, essentially from your office...

Terry McAuliffe:     Yeah.

Norah O'Donnell:   What are you guys doing citing Karl Rove?

Terry McAuliffe:     Well, he sent it out to Republicans.  A good Republican friend sent it out to us.

►   So there you have it:


PS don't be angry and bitter.

by Al Rodgers 2008-06-02 02:26PM | 0 recs
Re: The DNC is toast

Sure you don't mean the DLC?

by LtWorf 2008-06-02 02:33PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

Last year, the DNC Rules Committee meted out an over-the-top punishment for something the Florida Party couldn't stop, the change of the primary date to January 29.

Bullshit. Not only did the Democrats in the Florida legislature vote for moving the primary date up, they openly mocked the DNC while doing so.

They had been informed of what the punishment would be, and they changed the date anyway. They should feel lucky that the DNC decided to be magnanimous and give them half their delegates back.

by Angry White Democrat 2008-06-02 02:29PM | 0 recs
Re: A Toast to the DNC:

This seems like something where we are not all entitled to our own facts.

Was the change in the primary bound to the verified vote bill by R's?

If so, under what argument should FL D's voted against it?

Or is this diary untrue and the votes were distinct?

Thank you in advance for any pointers.

by redwagon 2008-06-02 02:36PM | 0 recs
As a Florida voter .....

who has consistently stated my disgust with this whole mess, thanks for such a thoughtful diary.

Thanks for placing the facts in front of those who still (judging from the commentary) will not pay any attention to them.

Thanks for ensuring that the 'spin' about how this came to be 'our fault' doesn't go unrebuked.

Thanks for reminding the folks from other states that they need to be careful in taking Florida for granted.

Thanks for reminding me why I will never again donate to the party, only to the candidate I believe in.

by emsprater 2008-06-02 03:15PM | 0 recs
Re: As a Florida voter .....

and thanks to you for your eloquent comment!

by moevaughn 2008-06-02 03:52PM | 0 recs
Damn Ickes for agreeing to this

Awww, you forgot that Clinton supporters had the majority of the Rules Committee last year when they advocated this scheme.

Sucks to forget that doesn't it.

by Regenman 2008-06-02 06:11PM | 0 recs


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