BREAKING: Obama discusses Rural and Working Class American in Charlie Rose interview 2004.

Anyway, in this little snippet Obama gives a slightly more nuanced explanation of his thoughts on guns and the rural working class in America.  "Bitter" certainly was a very very poor choice of a word (mostly because both Hillary and the Republicans are "clinging" to it as their only hope against his candidacy), but it's difficult to argue with his assessment of why the republican party has been able to compel so many voters to support candidates outside of their class interest.

This is by no means a comprehensive explanation of this theory(common to many besides Obama), but I thought it makes  a lot of sense: M

Oh and obviously this isn't breaking.  I was just making fun of you (yes you).

Tags: guns, obama (all tags)




(I think he's talking to you.  Yeah, you.)

by Mostly 2008-04-15 07:49AM | 0 recs
Re: BREAKING: Obama discusses Rural

Rabble Rabble Rabble!

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 07:53AM | 0 recs
Obama's too smart for his own good.

He's so good at talking like a scholar and teacher that he forgets that he's a politician sometimes.

Don't get me wrong, I want a smart guy in office.  As Jon Stewart said last night, considering that these people are going for a job where, if you do well, they might carve your face into the side of a mountain, the candidates should be "embarassingly superior to me."

by Dracomicron 2008-04-15 07:53AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama's too smart for his own good.

...and the idea that Clinton or McCain embody the common man/woman is hilarious in its own right.  Yeah, he is really smart and it's difficult for him to dumb it down on the campaign trail, and goddammit that hurts him (as much as that makes me cringe).

I've always felt that the problem with the democratic party in campaigns is that their policies tend to deal with shades of gray (reflecting the real world) a great deal more than their all-or-nothing republican counterparts, and that sort of sentiment is hard to capture (and easy to exploit pieces of) in 10 second sound bites.  Sigh.

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 08:07AM | 0 recs
You're probably right...

...but maybe we'll make some progress on that this year.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-15 08:09AM | 0 recs
Re: You're probably right...

Yeah I think we will.  Not trying to start any fights with HillDawg's myDD posse, but Obama seems to be able to weather the storm pretty well when "bad" things happen to him/come out of his mouth.  If there were actually electability issues, why is he doing better in general election polling than Hillary?  And this is at a time when McCain should be soaring about these in-fighting dems.  Either of our candidates will trounce McCain.  We just need to make sure everybody's feelings are soothed post-nomination.

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 08:17AM | 0 recs

No argument there.

Well, I kinda think "HillDawg" is a stupid name to call her, but... otherwise, yeah.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-15 08:25AM | 0 recs
Re: Yep

Ah, nothing offensive meant by it.  Just a pet name, but you're right, if people take offense to that, I humbly apoligize.  I think HillDawg is just stuck up in my head after a South Park episode, and I have a great time imagining her with that nickname on the campaign trail.  Or it would just be stupid, either way.

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 08:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Yep

Heh, it is amusing to imagine Clinton with the swagger of a gangsta rapper, but I just don't think it's appropriate in "mixed company."

by Dracomicron 2008-04-15 08:36AM | 0 recs
no one is required to edmbody any one

else.  What they have to do is not stereotype, patronize and psychoanalyze them.
Does he want to be the President or the Shrink in chief?

And besides, what does that have to do with why democrats in Pa are supporting Hillary?  Are you suggesting that we need it dumbed down for us?

Buddy, see if you can get this... We like her more.  We like people who have worked really hard and paid their dues.  We are not easily baffled by bullshit.  We prefer our politicians straightforward and not snobbish.  Obama is looking like a real snob these days.  He should just own it and admit he has some work to do on his elitist attitude.
And so do you by the way if you really think his problem with democrats is that he doesn't dumb it down enough to appeal to those of us not voting for him.

by TeresaInPa 2008-04-15 08:21AM | 0 recs
Enough with the "elitist."

We do NOT want to get into fights over who is the most "elite."  Trust me on this one.

Currently a sizable percentage of Pennsylvanian Democrats DO support Obama, so I think you may have to look at your own attitudes here.

Obama's problem is not that he's snobbish or looking down on people, it's that he talks like a professor.  Are teachers inherently snobbish?  Do profs look down on their students?

I don't think so, but the issue is a politician isn't expected to teach, he's expected to preach.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-15 08:30AM | 0 recs
Re: no one is required to edmbody any one

I'm not your buddy, guy!

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 08:35AM | 0 recs
Re: no one is required to edmbody any one

I'm not your guy, friend!

by Dracomicron 2008-04-15 08:36AM | 0 recs
Re: no one is required to edmbody any one

Damn, another SP reference.  Somehow I doubt you watch such an inane show, Teresa, so I should probably point out that it's a pop-culture reference and not an actual reflection of if I view you as my "buddy" or not (or if I think you're a guy).

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 08:37AM | 0 recs
Re: no one is required to edmbody any one

Talk about throwing stones in glass houses.  And besides, who mentioned anything about dems in PA, Teresa?  God, we were having a nice little discussion about this stuff and you felt the need to come in screaming.  The American people as a whole need messages dumbed down and delivered to us in neat little packages that are consumable in 10 seconds or less, republicans and democrats alike.

Why don't you get back to writing anti-Obama diaries and let us discuss the more esoteric points of democratic politics in peace?  

How's that for elitist? ;)

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 08:43AM | 0 recs

I thought your title was going to read

"in San Francisco"

by soyousay 2008-04-15 09:49AM | 0 recs
Re: hmmm...

Haha!  I would have found my use of the "BREAKING" in the title to be much wittier had that been the case.  Good call.

by minnesotaryan 2008-04-15 11:42AM | 0 recs


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