The Michelle Obama bombshell

Sites carrying this story are suffering denial-of-service attacks.  All Democrats should know about this, whether you want to believe it or not.  It certainly is on the radar of the Republicans.   So ... here's what's known so far:

The Michelle Obama Rant Tape was filmed between June 26th - July 1st 2004 in Chicago, IL at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church: specifically the Women's Event.

Michelle Obama appeared as a panelist alongside Mrs. Khadijah Farrakhan and Mrs. James Meeks.

Bill Clinton spoke during the Conference, as did Bill Cosby and other speakers, but not at the panel Michelle attended.

Michelle Obama spoke at the Women's Event, but referenced Bill Clinton in her rant --- his presence at the conference was the impetus for her raving, it seems.

For about 30 minutes, Michelle Obama launched into a rant about the evils of America, and how America is to blame for the problems of Africa. Michelle personally blamed President Clinton for the deaths of millions of Africans and said America is responsible for the genocide of the Tutsis and other ethnic groups. She then launched into an attack on "whitey", and talked about solutions to black on black crime in the realm of diverting those actions onto white America. Her rant was fueled by the crowd: they reacted strongly to what she said, so she got more passionate and enraged, and that's when she completely loses it and says things that have made the mouths drop of everyone who's seen this.

The "tape" is a DVD that Trinity United sold on its website, and possibly offered free for download up until March 2008 when Trinity's site was scrubbed and the DVDs were no longer offered for sale.

Tags: Incitement to violence, Michelle Obama, racism (all tags)

Comments

170 Comments

Troll diary.

by Firewall 2008-06-04 06:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Troll diary.

Diarist is right, she's a bombshell alright.  Nice photo.

by reconad 2008-06-04 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Troll diary.
I thought the same thing!
Michelle Obama?
Bombshell?
Yup!
by Kysen 2008-06-04 06:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Troll diary.

Totally!!!

by lollydee 2008-06-04 07:16AM | 0 recs
Just made this picture my wallpaper...

on my desktop. Is that breaking any rules?

by Liberal Monk 2008-06-04 06:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Just made this picture my wallpaper...

It might be breaking the Tenth Commandment, but that's really something only you can know.

by mistersite 2008-06-04 06:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Just made this picture my wallpaper...

Being an atheist exempts me from that particular set of rules, right? :-)

by Liberal Monk 2008-06-04 07:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Just made this picture my wallpaper...

It's the 10th, so it's not as important as the first nine, right?

by niksder 2008-06-04 07:35AM | 0 recs
Honestly, I think on things like this

reserve judgement until you actually see whatever was said, IN CONTEXT.

FYI, there are a huge number, perhaps HUNDREDS of US interventions in foreign lands that 99.99% of Americans know nothing of. Many of them left huge scars. Many of them were undertaken for one reaon only, money.

That is our legacy of colonialism and the hunt for obscene levels of profit and raw materials without actually having to pay market rates for them.

Like it or not, its our history.

I have no doubt that anyone who BOTH loves our country AND knows even a small amount about things like them is going to get extremely emotional about it.

No, I am not defending anything she might have said, sight unseen, but yes, I am saying she might have been justified on some level with something - athough NOT for the stuff the poster said.. (which I doubt is true)

There is a web site called 'third world traveller" or somethig like that that is basically the only site on the Net that makes a serious effort to catalog these interventions.. and their impacts.

If we want to enter the 21st century in a SUSTAINABLE and GLOBALLY POSITIVE way, we are GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE PEACE WITH THIS PAST AND ITS IMPLICATIONS..

However, there is a whole generation of right-leaning Washington insiders who go into full attack mode whenever these issues are brought up.

Thats another possible reason they HATE the Clintons because the Clintons did more to acknowledge this past than any previous administration did.

by architek 2008-06-04 07:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Troll diary.

WonderTwin Powers Activate!

Form of:  an Ice Sword!

Form of:  a Troll killing warrior!

by fogiv 2008-06-04 07:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Troll diary.
Heh.
You broke out the Wonder Twins card.
Brill!
:)
by Kysen 2008-06-04 07:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Troll diary.

And you, in that comment, just turned the Wonder Twins into things 100x more bad-ass than they ever turned into on the Super Friends.

by mistersite 2008-06-04 07:42AM | 0 recs
Re: Troll diary.

I know.  It was always a lavender walrus and a pitcher of water.

;)

by fogiv 2008-06-04 08:36AM | 0 recs
Video or it didn't happen

dipshit troll.

by JJE 2008-06-04 06:43AM | 0 recs
Nobody will care

if they didn't care about what she said already, they will not care about this. They will just vote against him in November.

by catfish2 2008-06-04 06:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Nobody will care

Who's they?

by niksder 2008-06-04 07:36AM | 0 recs
voters n/t

by catfish2 2008-06-04 07:53AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I thought it was about her saying whitey!  

by LordMike 2008-06-04 06:44AM | 0 recs
Whatever sticks to the wall,

they'll run with it.

(Why isn't this turd banned?  This site used to have rules.)

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:19AM | 0 recs
It's as though Google doesn't exist

"at the Rainbow/PUSH Coalition Conference at Trinity United Church"

Bzzzt.  It was at the Sheraton Chicago Hotel and Towers.  There was press coverage of this event, but somehow this rant from a senator's wife received NO coverage.  

The Way Back Machine on archive has NO evidence of this video existing on the TUCC site.

Still not one person has gone on the record as seeing this tape.   Give it up.  It's over.

Please delete this thread.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 06:45AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though Google doesn't exist

I took Obama's word back in 2007 that the controversy Rolling Stone mentioned about Rev. Wright was related to Wright's support for the South Africa boycott. I should not have.

This event took place before the 2004 Democratic convention. It is very unlikely that the wife of a candidate for Senate would get any attention. And as the Wright episode shows the press won't cover these things until the Republicans push them.

I would prefer to know more about what is out there.

by souvarine 2008-06-04 07:08AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though Google doesn't exist

He had already been a state Senator for years, was running for U.S. Senate at the time, and probably had designs for a presidential run down the line. What, do you think he just realized last year that Michelle and he shouldn't say racially insulting things?

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-04 07:19AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though Google doesn't exist

Speaking as a typical white person, I think he still has some work to do on that front. From what I've seen Michelle Obama has much farther to go than Barack, and clearly the community at Trinity eggs on people who say stupid things.

One thing the Obama campaign has taught us is that in a presidential campaign anything a surrogate says is fair game, regardless of context. What Michelle said, if anything, will be put in the least favorable light by the Republicans. Then the question will be how Barack Obama handles the situation.

We need more context before we can discuss a defense. Treating this as if it doesn't exist is becoming less tenable.

by souvarine 2008-06-04 07:32AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though Google doesn't exist

Treating this as if it doesn't exist is becoming less tenable.

You're kidding, right? The tape's been "rumored" for days, all seemingly coming from the same source.  Flowbee was supposedly going to release it days ago, but shockingly didn't. The facts about it keep changing (what she said, where she said it, when she said it).

No one can seem to produce this tape, which they also incongruously claim was available on the Internet until March--over a year after he declared his candidacy and months into the primaries.

Meanwhile, these same video sleuths managed to find all kinds of videos of Rev. Wright's inanities. Yet somehow, in the process of getting the dirt on Wright, they managed to skip over the tape where the actual candidate's wife insults "whitey."

And you're saying that the tape's existence is more tenable now? Again, are you kidding me??

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-04 08:26AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though Google doesn't exist

The Rev. Wright videos were rumored for years, I first saw mention of them in Feb 2007. And yet no-one produced them until it looked like Obama had the Democratic nomination. Trinity stopped selling those DVDs in March, once Rev. Wright's sermons were shown on national news shows.

As far as I can tell the rumor as reported by Larry Johnson has been consistent (I don't often read NoQuarter). Now that mainstream talking heads like Fund and Beckel are repeating the same thing it is less tenable to ignore the rumor.

by souvarine 2008-06-04 09:04AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though Google doesn't exist

Right... Because now that the famous wingnuts are saying it, it must be true.

by Dave 2008-06-04 09:36AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though Google doesn't exist

Bob Beckel is a wingnut?

by souvarine 2008-06-04 09:53AM | 0 recs
Sure because

golly gee -

We bumpkins in Chicago certainly don't have any media to speak of that would have been interested in inflammatory rhetoric from the wife of our probable next Senator.

I'd really like you to explain to me why it is that you think we in Illinois are some backwater bumpkinville without our own media.

by zonk 2008-06-04 07:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure because

I don't think much of the media generally. Few reporters do any independent research, they generally follow what their sources tell them. And even that is very subject to their editors and employers interests.

But yes, I would say that the Chicago media really dropped the ball on Trinity UCC and Rev. Wright. My guess is that the reporters who would recognize the story weren't covering TUCC.

by souvarine 2008-06-04 07:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure because

The media is not objective.  It has shifted favorites over the years, e.g., Reagan. It is also very likely this was not a panel that it was thought worth attending.  If you're a reporter, who are you going to do a story on first, second, and third?  Bill Clinton?  Bill Cosby?  Assorted members of the AA political community who already were pretty famous?  Reporters sure don't sit down and attend all day conferences, not from what I've seen in Washington DC.

We'll see what happens.  I'll believe it when I see it.  But I personally do not feel Larry Johnson made stuff up.  Maybe he was being fed false info by whomever wants to have this information, true or false, out.  Even reliable sources lie sometimes.

by katmandu1 2008-06-04 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure because

Either that, or our media isn't interested in sensationalizing that which the national media seems to be interested in sensationalizing.

Father Pfleger and Reverend Wright are from unknowns in Chicago -- they've both been on the frontlines of numerous issues in the community, from community violence to fair housing/fair wages to immigration.

They've also had their controversial moments - Father Pfleger in particular is no stranger to being at loggerheads with the Chicago archdiocese.  In fact, 2003 was supposed to be his last year at St. Sabina -- Cardinal George said then that he would NOT be reappointed after completion of his then current term there.   However, the outrage from the St. Sabina community -- where Pfleger is very much beloved because of the community service he has done, regardless of how often his mouth gets him in trouble -- was such that Cardinal George had no option but to relent.

What we're seeing here is NOT a matter of the Chicago media not doing its job nor some hidden "OMFG!!!" revelations about MY community.

What we are seeing is a double standard.

Forget race - what we're seeing here is our first "urban candidate" for President... and for better or worse, we do things differently than the good folks of rural areas that have the fortune to have any of their failings brushed off because they're such "salt of the earth" good people.

While he was in the state senate - Obama represented more constituents than do the majority of congressman and more than a dozen Senators.

It's a large and diverse community.  The discourse is different because the community is different.

Obama's district in particular is very much a patchwork area -- from the ivory towers of the U of C, to upper middle class neighborhoods, to poor struggling neighborhoods -- it's very much a diverse community.

Sometimes that diversity has caused tension, sometimes leaders in the community DO say things that might shock outsiders.

I'm very sorry about that, but it continues to puzzle me why some of the virulent BS that comes from rural America is so easily brushed aside (and I grew up in a small, one stoplight town - so I'm quite aware of its existence) as "not the norm", while our community and our community leaders are so broadly judged on the basis of a few minutes of YouTube clips.

by zonk 2008-06-04 09:03AM | 0 recs
Re: It's as though

yup, we should have known more about Obama earlier in the process.

The media is owned by Republicans. They gave Obama a free pass, until now.

Now, it will all come out. The media will do all in their power to elect McCain. And it will probably work.

by WolfmanJack 2008-06-04 08:17AM | 0 recs
Troll, Troll. Troll

your boat don't float

by UrbanRedneck 2008-06-04 06:45AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Tell the folks at Redstate this was one big cup of fail.

by mefeck 2008-06-04 06:45AM | 0 recs
Ummm....ok.

by Kysen 2008-06-04 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: Ummm....ok.

I'm not feeling the "Electronik Supersonik" for this thread.

It feels more like...


by TCQuad 2008-06-04 07:13AM | 0 recs
Don't Hassle the Hoff!! ;)

When it comes to the Hoffster...I much prefer this gem:

by Kysen 2008-06-04 07:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Ummm....ok.

You win six internets.

by Barrett Brown 2008-06-04 07:15AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Troll.

Ban.

by PantsB 2008-06-04 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

All of this is just the speculation of the blogger at HillBuzz, who has admitted as much.  There is no evidence that the video was taped at this conference.  Nor is there evidence that a video actually exists.

What there is evidence of is a concerted campaign among GOP operatives to spread the notion that the video exists - to Larry Johnson, to Bob Beckel, etc - and that is something of which we should be aware.  Let's not assume that the video exists without proof, but lets not lose fact of what the other side is trying to do here.

by Fuzzy Dunlop 2008-06-04 06:46AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Errr, should be "lose sight" in the last sentence.

by Fuzzy Dunlop 2008-06-04 06:48AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Hush, child.

by authority song 2008-06-04 06:48AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I am not touching this with a ten foot poll and no other self respecting Clinton supporter should either. Michelle is NOT fair game regardless of your opinion of her.

by Iceblinkjm 2008-06-04 06:48AM | 0 recs
Was Hillary's spouse fair game?

Just curious.

by catfish2 2008-06-04 06:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Was Hillary's spouse fair game?

Bill Clinton is, because he is a politician. Chelsea or Mrs. Rodham, on the other hand, are not.

by vcalzone 2008-06-04 06:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Was Hillary's spouse fair game?

Cat- you know I am as big a Clintonite as they come. I believe Michelle has some off the wall stuff but I am not down for assassinating her character or giving credence to something when there is no evidence it occurred. She's a women and I am a feminist enough to give her the benefit of the doubt.

by Iceblinkjm 2008-06-04 06:55AM | 0 recs
Confused you with another user

whose username rhymes with yours.

Well she is fair game in the minds of voters. They may not want her in the White House. I was offended by things she's already said and she has some work to do in exercising gratitude. I get that it's not as easy being black in this country, but she has Ivy League degrees and a good life.

The description of this tape does not surprise me at all. I think Larry should shut his yap about it though, until he finds the tape. Until then who cares? Even after then, people probably will not care.

by catfish2 2008-06-04 07:07AM | 0 recs
She has work to do

"in exercising gratitude?"  Next you'll call her uppity.  You haven't a clue what you're talking about, but I can tell you don't like the black woman.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:22AM | 0 recs
I love black women

A few of my best friends are black women.

by catfish2 2008-06-04 07:34AM | 0 recs
I've got nothing to add to that. n/t

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:37AM | 0 recs
Re: I love black women

Well that settles it, but probably not in the way you meant to.

by niksder 2008-06-04 07:41AM | 0 recs
Yes I know the joke

"Some of my best friends are black."

I do not like Michelle. I hope that changes. But I am hardly alone as you surely have noticed the press' reaction to her.

by catfish2 2008-06-04 07:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Yes I know the joke

"But I am hardly alone as you surely have noticed the press' reaction to her."

The same press that treated Hillary really unfairly?  Yeah, I've noticed.

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 08:09AM | 0 recs
Do not appreciate the race-baiting

You do a disservice to your candidate when you resort to that too quickly. Save that for when it's merited.

by catfish2 2008-06-04 07:48AM | 0 recs
I have a very hard time

interpreting the phrase "she needs to show gratitude" in a neutral way.  I'll try again.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:55AM | 0 recs
HillBuzz and Larry talking too much

if there is a tape find it. They're talking about it so much that if there's a tape people have plenty of time to hide or destroy it.

by catfish2 2008-06-04 06:52AM | 0 recs
Epic Fail

"Sites carrying this story are suffering dos attacks"

Look, if you are going to lead off your diary with that kind of tinfoilhattery you might as well save yourself the effort of typing the rest.

There are some very good trolls here already and you will really need to raise your game to be competitive.  

by Purplepeople 2008-06-04 06:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Epic Fail

Larry & Susan are suffering from signing up for a cheap ass hosting plan with probably a third-rate hosting company, just like Lieberman. Why is it only wingnut sites (which NQ has clearly become) that only whine about TEH HACKERZZZZ?

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 08:12AM | 0 recs
this is STUPID! until we see a tape, which i

doubt we ever will, this is stupid and trollish.

by rigsoHC 2008-06-04 06:53AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

i heard she appeared with Nat X and Whitey the Clown , and helped sweep an effigy of clinton off-stage.  (does anybody remember chris rock's skit on snl??)

She read this poem, i think:

Kill,
kill, kill
the white
man.
Kill him,
until he is
dead.

Kill,
kill, kill,
the white
man.

while "whitey's on the moon" played and tribal drums played.

by pholkhero 2008-06-04 06:53AM | 0 recs
I think Tasty Taste was there too

by JJE 2008-06-04 07:00AM | 0 recs
Breaking! Shocking New Video!

Per No Quarter: Michelle's Favorite Band:

Tyrone Green and his Reggae Band!

(for the humor impaired....this is snark)
:)

by Kysen 2008-06-04 07:47AM | 0 recs
Well....

I don't want to get the Obama supporters upset, so I won't post the internet image I saw of Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Farrakhan at the alleged event that is in question.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 06:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

Why would that get us upset, seeing how it was the photo that inspired this theory.  You can't use it as evidence that this is real when that was known first.

Unless you believe that someone could watch a video with Louis Farrakhan's wife and somehow conclude that Louis was in it, this photo and theory completely contradicts the theory of 3 days ago.  It's amazing how the story keeps changing and no one has seen this tape but people still believe in it.  Remember that it was supposed to be a Katrina rant and now it takes place in 2004.  

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 06:57AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....
Why would that get us upset, seeing how it was the photo that inspired this theory.
Well, Obama supporters couldn't handle the Wright video or the Phleger video, so I assume they don't want to see this photo.
You can't use it as evidence that this is real when that was known first.
Huh? Oh, the image is real and it's at the event.
Unless you believe that someone could watch a video with Louis Farrakhan's wife
Who said that, I saw a picture/image of Michelle Obama and Mrs. Farrakhan at the alleged event. I never stated I saw a video.
It's amazing how the story keeps changing and no one has seen this tape but people still believe in it.
Well, since Bob Beckel (an Obama supporter/superdelegate) believes it's true...I would think he knows more than I do.
by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

On Monday the story was that Michelle and Louis were on a panel.  On Tuesday that photo was discovered.  On Wednesday the story now is that this event must have happened there, even though it contradicts the bombshell of Monday.  

Last week the story was that this involved Katrina.  This week it happened in 2004.  There is absolutely no press about this from 2004, despite multiple stories on the conference.  Not one person has stated on the record that they've seen the video.  Until that happens, it's just a game of constantly changing rumors.  

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

Well, since Bob Beckel (an Obama supporter/superdelegate) believes it's true...

Here is a list of Superdelegates.  Where is Bob Beckel's name on it?

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:17AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

You're right, I read that on a blog.

That being said, beckel is an pro-Obama. Do you agree with that?

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

I have no idea where Bob Beckel stands vis a vis Obama.  If you google "Bob Beckel Obama," all you get are pages about how he said the video would surface today.  If he were some big Obama supporter, you'd think plenty of articles he wrote defending Obama would come up; I'm on page 5 and so far I've seen one saying that Obama would have to take Clinton as VP and one whole article saying that Obama would likely get SD endorsements.

Let's see a Fox news "Democratic strategist" who doesn't seem to have any articles up defending the presumptive nominee.  There's a loyal supporter.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:35AM | 0 recs
I think this is pro-Obama

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:43AM | 0 recs
Re: I think this is pro-Obama

So pro Obama that he makes a point of saying that he's not in the Obama camp in it.

Look, it's now noon Eastern time.  He said the tape is going to drop today.  We'll know in the next 12 hours if it does.

I'm not exactly shaking in my boots here.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:50AM | 0 recs
Re: I think this is pro-Obama

Keith O. has said that he's not in the Obama tank too....we all know that he is.

It is a rumor and maybe there isn't anything there. I personally believe there is because of what I've seen so far in reference to trinity, etc.

If there is a tape, I would think Republicans would want to wait awhile before they release it...when it's too late for the Democratic Party to do damage control.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:04AM | 0 recs
If you base your proof

on a finger-in-the-wind test of whether other people you don't actually know are reported third-hand to believe something, I think there's little hope for you.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:24AM | 0 recs
Re: If you base your proof

Would you like to see the picture? I'll be glad to provide a link.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:34AM | 0 recs
Sure 'nough, Obama supporters don't

like all the little messy issues that their annointed one's poor judgement keep introducing into the dialog.   They prefer to stomp it out, wipe it from their poor fevered consciousness.  Of course, to do that, they have to suppress free speech in everyone else.  Cost of doin' business I guess.

by miker2008 2008-06-04 07:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure 'nough, Obama supporters don't

Yeah how DARE people ask for evidence!  Someone questioning you is not a violation of free speech; it's exercising it.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure 'nough, Obama supporters don't

So you are saying that there's nothing out there right?

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:33AM | 0 recs
No, there's nothing real.

"It's out there" are the words of an intellectual chickenshit saying something unsupportable.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure 'nough, Obama supporters don't

I'm saying there's no evidence said tape exists.  I'm saying that the arguments presented are classic urban legend friend of a friend tales.  I'm saying that not one person has gone on the record as seeing this tape.  I'm saying that the story of what's on the tape has changed dramatically with each telling of this story.

I'm a mathematician.  I know enough logic to understand that outside of formal axioms, you can't disprove a negative.  The sun might not rise tomorrow.  The entire world might be a dream I'm having.  There could be some tape where Michelle Obama acted like a character in a KKK propaganda film.  That's why the burden of proof is on those who claim this exists.  When there's no evidence and the story keeps morphing, I'm feeling pretty confident this is a whisper campaign.  If actual evidence comes forth, I'll change that opinion, but until then I'll wait.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:41AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure 'nough, Obama supporters don't

There is an image, would you like to see it?

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:47AM | 0 recs
Re: Sure 'nough, Obama supporters don't

It's a picture out of Jet magazine of a group of women at a conference. No nudity, sex or outward appearances of the kill whitey tee-shirts that all black people wear when we get together were visible. I didn't know that it was a crime to appear in a photo with the wife of someone. So please explain why this picture that is out there, viewable, means that Michelle Obama said something, you don't know what exactly but you HEARD, that Larry Johnson HEARD, that five other people HEARD was a bombshell that will be used in August against Barack Obama.  

by Mylie 2008-06-04 08:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

?

YOU are worried about upsetting people?

Yeah, sorry that doesn't have the ring of veracity to it.

by notedgeways 2008-06-04 07:19AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

Post the damn picture or shut up.

by notedgeways 2008-06-04 07:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

The picture does exist.  It's just not relevant as confirmation of this theory as the theory was invented AFTER the picture was found.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:24AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

Will you troll rate it?

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

Troll rate a photo of a political candidate's wife sitting next to the wife of someone controversial?

You might as well post the photo of Rev Wright at Bill's prayer mea culpa way back when, I mean at least the candidate was AT that one, and presumably he was invited by the WH.

But, no I won't TR it.

Seems kind of silly for you to worry about that though, you seem to collect them anyways.

Fact is I don't care (about either photo for that matter), for this "bomshell" to go from video of her speaking to photo of her sitting next to someone is pretty weak sauce.

by notedgeways 2008-06-04 08:03AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

I did, the link is floating in this diary somewhere.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:11AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

Seems kind of silly for you to worry about that though, you seem to collect them anyways.
Not worried at all. I was trying to work with you because IMO, all of you are so sensitive.

http://bp0.blogger.com/_110wcPq1TEY/SEWc raM4m3I/AAAAAAAAA9k/jQP7aoZLAJs/s1600-h/ obamafarrakhanetalmm9.jpg

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:16AM | 0 recs
OMG, Really? That was it? That's the picture?


She's with a judge, a former POW, and leaders of Rainbow/PUSH.  And BY THE WAY... Khadijah Farrakhan was in the picture.

I thought they had a white guy strung up from a tree or they were caught in a nude compromising position given all the hooplah around this picture.

You have a hard time doing anything on a large scale that will have an affect in the black community without including the church - and like it or not, there are AA folks who support the nation.  You'd be hard pressed to find a photo of an AA community event and not have someone from The Nation of Islam in the pic.  It doesn't mean that the scary views of the scary black people rub off!  She was one of an obvious diverse group of AA women.  So is the Judge guilty of something too?

You guys are ridiculous... no, really, really ridiculous!

by ILean Left 2008-06-04 06:33PM | 0 recs
No worry. How about the picture of Farrakhan with

Ed Rendell?  God forbid competing factions come together in the interest of healing divisions and unity.  God forbid Rendell actually played a part in teaching Farrakhan that he is wrong about Jews.  I'm just sayin'...

NYTimes

April 15, 1997
Philadelphia Mayor Joins Farrakhan to Calm Ethnic Tensions
By MICHAEL JANOFSKY
NEW YORK TIMES
In a long church rally today, called to promote racial reconciliation after several recent high-profile crimes, Mayor Edward G. Rendell joined Louis Farrakhan, the Nation of Islam leader, in challenging residents of Philadelphia and the nation to put aside ethnic differences.
Mr. Rendell became one of the few big-city mayors ever to share a podium with Mr. Farrakhan, a circumstance that was all the more unusual because Mr. Rendell is Jewish and Mr. Farrakhan is widely regarded as anti-Semitic. Representatives from the city's leading Jewish and Roman Catholic organizations were invited to participate in the rally, but all declined.
As the keynote speaker before an enthusiastic audience of more than 3,000 at the Tindley Temple United Methodist Church, h Mr. Farrakhan praised Mayor Rendell, a popular Democrat, for ''his courage and strength to rise above emotion and differences that might be between us or our communities.'' Mr. Farrakhan added: ''I believe, Mayor Rendell, that history will applaud your efforts.''
Mr. Rendell, whose speech preceded Mr. Farrakhan's, commended the Nation of Islam for its emphasis on family values and self-sufficiency.
He told the audience that many people had warned him against ''sharing a platform'' with a figure as controversial as Mr. Farrakhan.
But, he said, the incidents that prompted the rally -- the attack on a black woman, her son and nephew by a group of white men in February, and the fatal shooting of a white teen-ager by two black men in a robbery in the same neighborhood a month later -- have taken a toll on the city.
''The real risk would be not to be willing to talk about our differences,'' he said.
Seven white men have been charged in the first attack, and police have arrested two black men in connection with the second.
The church rally, which lasted four hours, was a compromise negotiated by officials of the Nation of Islam, who wanted to help protest the incidents, and by Mr. Rendell, who wanted to preserve the city's peace, two weeks before a Presidential summit meeting here on volunteerism.
The Nation of Islam originally intended to join a march led by black community groups through Grays Ferry, the working-class area where the incidents occurred. But Mr. Farrakhan agreed to appear in the more controlled atmosphere of a church rally if Mr. Rendell would join him as a speaker. Despite the strong objections of the city's leading Jewish groups, including the Anti-Defamation League and the Board of Rabbis of Greater Philadelphia, Mr. Rendell agreed, explaining that he was putting the needs of the city ahead of religious differences.
Speaking to reporters on Sunday, Mr. Farrakhan described his deal with Mr. Rendell as ''a good sign'' that could lead to a wider dialogue with other prominent Jews.
In his address today, Mr. Farrakhan spoke for nearly 90 minutes, often provoking such loud and appreciative responses that his next words were drowned out. Generally holding to the theme that the country risked moral decay if racism was not stamped out, he chastised blacks as well as whites for intolerance and predicted that the United States would fall like ancient Rome and Babylon if stronger efforts were not made toward reconciliation.
''America is the golden chalice on the outside, but filled with filth and abomination on the inside,'' he said. ''And here we are at a fork in the road.''
But the country ''can be healed when we participate in her healing,'' Mr. Farrakhan added. ''We have to recognize that she is sick.''
As in previous speeches, Mr. Farrakhan sometimes wandered far afield to make a point, drawing on an eclectic mix of issues including his support for the return to a gold standard, his trip to Libya, Alan Greenspan's power as chairman of the Federal Reserve Board, the need for cutting Federal taxes to make a greater investment in cities, Palestinian-Israeli relations and Tiger Woods's victory in the Masters golf tournament on Sunday.
At no time, however, did he make disparaging remarks about his frequent targets of criticism, Jews and Catholics, other than to express disappointment that their representatives had chosen not to participate in the rally. He said their absence stemmed from his reputation as ''a hater, a bigot and anti-Semite.''
''But I confess to the world,'' he said solemnly, ''I'm not that.''
As the church was filling up this morning, the march in Grays Ferry began with about 1,000 protesters, almost all of them black, and about the same number of police officers, who kept them separated from several hundred white neighbors and other bystanders. At one point, white residents turned their backs as marchers approached, prompting one marcher to shout, ''If I were afraid, I'd turn my back, too.''
Sonia Lonon, a community representative for the city who is black, watched in dismay, expressing sorrow that blacks and whites did not march together.
''It's all about fear,'' Ms. Lonon said, reflecting a common feeling in the neighborhood. ''They're afraid of young blacks. Black people are afraid of Irish Catholics. Why can't we get together to know each other? If we got to know each other, we wouldn't all be so afraid.''

by ILean Left 2008-06-04 07:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Well....

"I won't post the internet image I saw of Mrs. Obama and Mrs. Farrakhan at the alleged event that is in question."

Great. And I won't post the picture of Hillary kissing Suha Arafat.

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 08:15AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Hey Miker, do you normally copy text verbatim without a citation or are you the author of this piece: http://hillbuzz.blogspot.com/2008/06/wha ts-on-michelle-obama-rant-tape.html#link s ?

by RP McMurphy 2008-06-04 06:55AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I referenced the fact that other sites carrying this story are being hacked.  Close enough eh?

by miker2008 2008-06-04 07:01AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Nope.

by RP McMurphy 2008-06-04 07:44AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Nope.

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 08:16AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I'm hungry. Anyone want a BANana? We can share it in the shade of this BANyan tree, while engaged in witty BANter.

by Mandoliniment 2008-06-04 06:57AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I love banyan trees.

by vcalzone 2008-06-04 08:23AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I love how this "bombshell" has been spoken about for weeks now......OK...WHERE IS IT?

by feliks 2008-06-04 06:59AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

The bombshell is still dropping to Earth.  I think it was originally fired from somewhere in the Milky Way actually, and should land around 2057, when it is expected to devastate the chances of Sasha Obama becoming president.  Stay tuned.

by Fuzzy Dunlop 2008-06-04 07:05AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I am so sad I can't uprate comments still.  Fuzzy, right now you're at (2.00/4) in my mind.

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 08:18AM | 0 recs
Hey Hey Hey

Michelle Obama appeared at the same conference as Bill Cosby?

Forget about the controversies surrounding Farrakhan and Meeks.

Personally, I am absolutely outraged that she would attend the same conference as the hate-filled Cosby, a man that has made a fortune with his belittling humor about a Fat Kid named Albert.

by emptythreatsfarm 2008-06-04 06:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Hey Hey Hey

And to make matters worse, that guy caused childhood obesity in this country with his constant demand for them to eat puddin' and puddin' pops.

by futbol dad 2008-06-04 07:25AM | 0 recs
A pattern emerges......

And if I remember correctly, wasn't he always shown in the commercials eating the chocolate pudding even though the delicious vanilla variety was available?

Don't believe for a second that was a coincidence.  We all know the vanilla pudding is better.

This is an example of black nationalist reverse racism right out of the Trinity United hymnbook.

And to think they gave the racist Cosby his own television show!

by emptythreatsfarm 2008-06-04 07:41AM | 0 recs
Re: A pattern emerges......

Good catch!  This guy is unbelievable!

by futbol dad 2008-06-04 09:24AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell


It doesn't hurt to know what's coming, if that's what coming.

That story is probably too specific to be true.

However, from what we know of Michelle, I think it obvious that she said stupid or should I say politically incorect things in the past and that some of it is on tape... to be released by the GOP around mid september.

Assuming that the super-likely will happen is just politics 101.

by TaiChiMaster 2008-06-04 07:06AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Assuming that the super-likely will happen is just politics 101.

For instance, assume that the GOP will attempt to start rumors about things which are totally untrue.

And assume that highly credulous people will believe them despite the fact that the stories are completely non-credible.

by Mandoliniment 2008-06-04 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell


Fine,

by all means do assume that Michele never said anything politically incorect in her entire life.

Do assume that no attack will come.

But don't go complaint when the likely happens and you've got no strategy to deal with it.

by TaiChiMaster 2008-06-04 07:16AM | 0 recs
Put up, or shut up.

I'd prefer the latter.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:25AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Here's how it going to go down.

1. Denial the event ever took place.

2. The the shoe drops..

3. Excuses; She meant to say, you didn't here her correctly, she's not like that anymore, etc, etc, etc,

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:31AM | 0 recs
Since you got the GOP memo,

could you perhaps let us know some dates, or video archive locations?  You seem to have the inside track on this somehow.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:33AM | 0 recs
Rumor

This is just my opinion in reference to a rumor but what I've seen from Trinity so far, I would bet on it.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:37AM | 0 recs
Now see, personally that's where

I would kind of draw the line.  Even on teh Internetz, "my opinion in reference to a rumor" kind of fails the smell test.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:41AM | 0 recs
We can agree....

....that there was the event, right?

http://thebigfeed.blogspot.com/2008/06/m ichelle-obama-hangin-with-mrs.html

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:55AM | 0 recs
I see a picture.

This diary's about a bombshell video, apparently filmed by fairies, edited by the Keebler elves, and distributed by TCP/IP via carrier pigeon.

This is the commentary at the site you linked to:
'If I had a nickel for every time "strong black woman" or "oh no you didn't" was uttered at that luncheon...'

Yeah, if you did have a nickel, then what?  You'd buy another McCain bumper sticker?

by McNasty 2008-06-04 08:00AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

I said it was a picture prior to providing a link. What didn't you understand?

In reference to the link...I just googled Michelle Obama and Mrs. Farrakhan and that's one of the first links to pop up; there are several out there. Don't blame me for the content.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:09AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

soyousay, do you have rec/ratings prvileges?

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

do you have yours?

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

If you have a problem with me providing a link to the pic...Don't blame me I asked if they wanted to see it first.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:23AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

Actually, I just saw that you do. Good christ.

I can't rec/rate (I still don't know why) and I'm solidly behind OUR candidate and will fight my heart out against every attack leveled against him and you're smearing bullshit all over the walls here in an effort to take him down and you still have full privileges.  Jerome, Todd, Jonathan ... WTF?

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 08:24AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

I can't rec/rate (I still don't know why)
Probably because you troll rate a lot. I seldom troll rate.

and I'm solidly behind OUR candidate and will fight my heart out against every attack leveled against him
Why not go to the source then? Mydd is far from the source, IMO...this is more like an echo chamber.

and you're smearing bullshit all over the walls here
First of all this isn't my diary but the rumor IS out there whether you like it or not.

an effort to take him down and you still have full privileges.
You give me way too much credit. I don't have the ability to take anyone down. If anyone takes down a candidate, it will be cable news.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:39AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

"First of all this isn't my diary but the rumor IS out there whether you like it or not."

The rumor is out there because people want this rumor to be out there.  There hasn't been the slightest bit of evidence of it existing.  Even NRO has given up on it.  It's a basic whisper campaign and you can either further it or push back against it.  Your choice.

...on the plus side, it keeps some McCain people searching for this tape instead of doing something constructive.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 08:50AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.
The rumor is out there because people want this rumor to be out there.
That is true; it's possible that those who started the rumor actually have something to back it up....or not.
There hasn't been the slightest bit of evidence of it existing.
I totally agree with you. That's why I didn't personally create a diary like this. That's not saying that my curiousity didn't get the best of me; I checked it out.
Even NRO has given up on it.
Did they state that it was just a rumor? That would be helpful.
It's a basic whisper campaign and you can either further it or push back against it.
Maybe it is, maybe it isn't. Like I said before, I didn't create a diary on this subject because there's no proof...but if there's any truth to it, I'm not responsible for protecting politicians for the damage they do to themselves/political careers. If it's just a rumor, it won't go anywhere and there's nothing for you to worry about.
by soyousay 2008-06-04 09:09AM | 0 recs
by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 09:52AM | 0 recs
by soyousay 2008-06-04 10:35AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

I have only troll-rated once (I believe) the entire time I've been a member here and you know perfectly well this rumor was initially and relentlessly pushed out of the blogosphere by No Quarter and their minions and they willfully hoisted it onto cable news (send it to hannity! send it to greta!).

by Rumproast 2008-06-04 09:05AM | 0 recs
Re: I see a picture.

I don't know why you lost your privilages. Right now, you seem reasonable to me.

In reference to the blogs; In my opinion, blogs were used as a tool...Who is pushing it and whether it true or not, I don't know.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell


Fine,

by all means do assume that Michele never said anything politically incorect in her entire life.

Do assume that no attack will come.

But don't go complaint when the likely happens and you've got no strategy to deal with it.

by TaiChiMaster 2008-06-04 07:16AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Divisive troll. The republicans must truly be desperate now

by pollbuster 2008-06-04 07:06AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

I love how the video was available for download until March, but now suddenly only one copy exists in a Republican cryo-storage vault somewhere.

by Mandoliniment 2008-06-04 07:07AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Yeah, see I don't think the repubs really want to make this about the candidate's wives. Cindy McCain is a fucking political nightmare if it comes to that level of discourse.

by notedgeways 2008-06-04 07:07AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

It doesn't get much worse than stealing drugs from your own charity.  Of course, she was probably wearing a flag pin at the time, so it was okay.

by rb608 2008-06-04 08:00AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Here we have it.   The Obama's HATE the Clintons.  The Obama's think the Clintons are responsible for the deaths of millions of africans.  Good God!  Can you get anymore looney radical than this?  Obama is willing to throw Clinton down the garbage disposal, alienate her voters and possibly lose the election, all because he thinks Hillary is reponsible for killing millions of africans..so he can't make her VP.  NO WAY will i vote for this man if he thinks this way about the Clintons and rejects her and her supporters.  NOPE!

by karajan72 2008-06-04 07:09AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

NO WAY I'D VOTE FOR OBAMA BASED ON AN ANONYMOUS STORY ON A WEBSITE!!!!!!

Bloggers can't lie or make up stories.  It's against the law of blogging!

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:12AM | 0 recs
Ok.......

...You are basing this on an unsubstantiated rumor of a dvd no one has actually seen, but you take as fact.  Nice judgement.

Doctor called, said you should take all the medication

by xenontab 2008-06-04 07:17AM | 0 recs
These people are children

Only teenagers could be so hopelessly naive and self-centered as the small band of trolls/Clinton supporters on this site.

How can you back the candidate of political experience when it's plain that all of you know so little about politics and will believe just about anything?

by blue2008 2008-06-04 07:37AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

So I see by the multiple instances of "fucking" in comments these days that all the roaches from the BO Satan have now scurried over to mydd.  Didn't used to be that way.  And Obama supporters wonder why Clinton supporters hate you and your candidate.  

Me, I have no horse in this race.  Just sayin'

by miker2008 2008-06-04 07:11AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Why would you expect civil comments concerning a garbage filled diary like this one?

The level of discourse you brought isn't much better as well.

by PSUdan 2008-06-04 07:25AM | 0 recs
"Me, I have no horse in this race."

miker2008, Irony just called and asked if it could be resurrected, so you can kill it again.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:29AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Sorry to offend your fucking eyes...

ah yeah

Me, I have no horse in this race.

So you are not a Democrat by admission, yet you post unsubstantiated rumor to a site "dedicated to electing democrats".

Unless you can provide evidence...

fuck off

by notedgeways 2008-06-04 07:30AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

sure you don't have a horse in this race.

by JoeW 2008-06-04 07:33AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

You can be a Clinton supporter all you want, while you're at it put a "saw buck" on "Glue Factory" in the fourth at Pimlico. I'm sure you'll pick a winner. Obama supporters are not too concerned that you hate us. I for one don't rightfully care about your opinion. I only associate with winners.

by johnny sexton 2008-06-04 08:09AM | 0 recs
Jerome! Cleanup on aisle 7!!

Once again, this is where MyDD needs to draw the line.  If you continue to accomodate those who are clearly on assignment from RedState or LittleGreenFootballs, you are not part of the solution.

Ban this guy right now.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Jerome! Cleanup on aisle 7!!

Typical Obama supporter.  Can't bear to read the truth.   NOT that the rumor is true, but that the rumor exists.

Yes, Jimmy, the rumor exists.  

I know, the very thought is so painful that all hints of it must be wiped away.   No discussion will be brooked.  No strategies or tactics to surmount the candidate's considerable limitations.  

by miker2008 2008-06-04 07:28AM | 0 recs
Re: Jerome! Cleanup on aisle 7!!

You're working hard against the Democratic nominee.

Shoo, little man.  Go beat your kids or whatever it is you do for fun.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:29AM | 0 recs
Re: Jerome! Cleanup on aisle 7!!

Wow, it's "no horse in the race" miker!

These McTrolls have to raise their game. This is kind of sad.

by JoeW 2008-06-04 07:34AM | 0 recs
rumor: miker2008 is a pederast

the rumor exists!

by JJE 2008-06-04 08:14AM | 0 recs
Re: rumor: miker2008 is a pederast

Is it permissible to uprate personal attacks on obvious trolls? Should be. Should be. But I won't because I'm still a little nervous about that whole ratings banning thing.

by Exhausted Pennsylvanian 2008-06-04 08:18AM | 0 recs
probably not

so if i say that souvarine is too dumb understand the point of that comment, you shouldn't uprate me.

by JJE 2008-06-04 08:28AM | 0 recs
Re: probably not

Well, I heard the diarist is a pederast, too. I have zero proof of it, but people are discussing it all around the internets, and all their websites are getting shut down by black-ops hackers employed by the government, which is secretly run by a pro-Obama cartel.

Supposedly, the video shows the diary engaged in salacious acts with a boy. Or maybe it's with an adult woman. Or maybe it's just video of him shopping in the grocery store alone. Whatever it is, it'll be a bombshell.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-06-04 09:09AM | 0 recs
Re: probably not
I understand your point, but not the way you expressed it. Your title was offensive and intended to abuse other readers. We can argue about "solely", but the accusation was sufficiently offensive that it overwhelmed any point.
Zero is for comments that are offensive, script-generated, or otherwise content-free and intended solely to abuse other readers.

by souvarine 2008-06-04 09:12AM | 0 recs
it wasn't an accusation

merely reporting a rumor.  I have no idea if it's true or not, just saying it's out there.  You are in favor of that kind of thing, judging by your comments in this very thread.  

by JJE 2008-06-04 09:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Jerome! Cleanup on aisle 7!!

there was a "rumor" that the Clinton's had somebody bumped off as well. Which was horseshit, but still made the rounds.

YOU.. yes YOU, are responsible for spreading this rumor hear and now.

At best you are acting like a concern troll, at worst you are attempting to spread discord.

If you are admitting that

1. This is no more than a rumor

and

2. You "have no horse in this race"

you should seriously think about pulling this POS diary down.

DO NOT spread rumors.

Hey I heard McCain molests sea monkeys!

by notedgeways 2008-06-04 08:30AM | 0 recs
for chrissakes

have you forgotten that Michelle's husband is half white??? I'm not an expert on these things but I don't think that racists are cool with marrying and procreating with those that they hate.

gosh...who needs the GOP hit squad when you have dems doing the work for them.

by april34fff 2008-06-04 07:12AM | 0 recs
Re: for chrissakes

have you forgotten that Michelle's husband is half white???
What's your point? What does that have to do with anything?

There's all kinds of people with all kinds of beliefs.

Take father Phleger for example, he's white and yet he had no problem with racially divisive rhetoric about Hillary Clinton.

by soyousay 2008-06-04 07:19AM | 0 recs
whatever dude

yeah and next there will be a phantom tape that supposedly proves that she is a hardcore member of the new black panthers and she's ranting that all the white people are the devil...get a goddamn life...

by april34fff 2008-06-04 07:33AM | 0 recs
Re: whatever dude

I give you a reasonable answer and you fly off the handle and throw in a red herring. You ought to be a politician. :D

by soyousay 2008-06-04 08:52AM | 0 recs
Re: for chrissakes

is he half responsible?....sorry, bad joke...

by IowaMike 2008-06-04 08:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Take your wedge

Another roach from BO Satan weighs in.  Thanks for the edifying comment.

by miker2008 2008-06-04 07:13AM | 0 recs
Your right

I should have known better than to feed the troll.

by Lost Thought 2008-06-04 07:34AM | 0 recs
Best comment today.

If they let me give mojo, I would.

This is a lesson I apparently have to re-learn each day.  Thanks for the helpful reminder, have a great Wednesday!

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:43AM | 0 recs
Contradictions point to a hoax:

It's in the possession of a network
BUT
it can be magically kept secret until October.

It was sold on the TUCC site
BUT
nobody has seen it.

The meeting was at TUCC
BUT
the meeting was at the Sheraton.

It was about what she "said"
BUT
it's about who she's "with."

These are just the low-hanging fruit.  

Fucking trolls.

by kellogg 2008-06-04 07:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Contradictions point to a hoax:

Her rant was about Katrina BUT it happened in 2004.

The big scoop is that it was with Louis Farakhan according to people who saw the video, BUT now it was with her wife.

by thezzyzx 2008-06-04 07:19AM | 0 recs
And to the commenter worried about language:

I used a term in my comment to which some will object.  
So let me clarify:

by kellogg 2008-06-04 07:22AM | 0 recs
And yet

In the world where you can get video of Bush flipping off the camera years before he became president, no one has been able or willing to make this tape public?  No one's posted it where people can see it and make up their own minds?

Bullshit. You lie.

by nightsweat 2008-06-04 07:18AM | 0 recs
No, you misunderstand.

He's not reporting on the existence of the tape, he's simply saying that "the rumor exists."  At least that's miker2008's new tack.  Kind of like on FOX News when they trot out unsupportable opinions with "Some people say..."  Funny that.

by McNasty 2008-06-04 07:32AM | 0 recs
if it existed

it would be out.

This rumor is just being used to fuel a fire that does not exist.

If you do a search on youtube and google, you come across lots of righties talking about the possible existence of this "video".

So... if they say it enough times, then it must be real. People will talk and write about this "video" but no one will ever see it because it does not exist.

In some ways, that is all they need to do, this has rove fingerprints all over it.

But wait.... "THEY" scrubbed it... had their "PEOPLE" threaten other people and had it removed.... from the ENTIRE internet! How devious... how smart... how evil!

by kevin22262 2008-06-04 08:04AM | 0 recs
This is what you do with a pro McCain diary...

Obama will continue to respond to the provocative emails and falls accusations that are being circulated from people like ... well, like the one who created this diary and make no mistake, these accusations are filled with tall tales ...
Obama tackling these accusations head on like he did  today.

Now this is what you do with a troll diary like this:

There are thousands of videos like this on McCain.  We will all know McCain better in the fall and it wont be a pretty picture.

by Avandi 2008-06-04 08:19AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

Yeah, they filmed it with the very same camera that they filmed the supposed "moon landing" with in the 60s2 and 70's!

What size is your tin-foil hat?

by IowaMike 2008-06-04 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: The Michelle Obama bombshell

la la la la la....nothing to see here, move on now....

by mcthatch37 2008-06-04 08:28AM | 0 recs
I will certainly take it seriously

when I see it.

Until then, I think "Rovian Whisper Campaign", and it pisses me off. That faction represents the very worst in our society.

No wonder the GOP brand is dead.

by Neef 2008-06-04 08:53AM | 0 recs

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