More Obama Fairytales

Fairytale # 1: Michelle is so much better of a surrogate than Bill because she is believable.

Here is a video of this fairytale in the media.

One thing you aren't hearing from the national media is that Michelle's former position at a Chicago Hospital should  be a cause for concern because things that happened there contradict Barack's health care message. Video here.

The national media is also skipping over the fact that she had a high level position at a  company whose CEO made more than the Wal Mart CEO.  And her pay suddenly went way up after Barack became a Senator.  Video here.

There has been some media discussion of comments at the Iowa State Fair where she seemed to slam Hillary.  Context makes it seem that she might have been talking about something else. Video here.

There has been less national media attention to the fact that the line from Iowa has often been repeated.  A Chicago News Station noticed the phrase and thought it was a slam at Hillary. Video here.

Fairytale #2: The Clinton campaign has been doing ugly race-baiting but the Obama camp has not.

The most obvious Obama camp person twisting Bill Clinton's word "fairytale" out of context to play the race card against the Clintons was Donna Brazile. Video here.

Michelle also got into the act on this one. (link):

Sometimes we feel it's better not to try at all than to try and fail. These are complicated emotions, left in our heads and hearts from years of struggle, emotions we must face if we're going to overcome as a community if we want to lift ourselves up. We must do it in the face of those who will attempt to play on those emotions for our own purposes, to discourage us from believing what is dismiss this moment as an illusion, as a fairytale.

Michelle also played the race card on the stump in other ways.  She said "America needs a black president" despite claims by both the Obama campaign and the national media that the Obama candidacy transcends race.  This did get picked up by the media, but they never rode this story like they did some of the Clinton stories they manufactured. Video here.

Tim Russert did actually catch the Obama team playing the race card in South Carolina, despite denials by Barack himself that they were doing so. Video here and here.

Fairytale #3: Michelle and the Obama campaign are in a position to question the policies, approach and tone of Hillary Clinton.

Video of Michelle saying she might not campaign for Senator Clinton here.  I did give the full clip that includes the end where she seems to say she will.  But I think this was a bad move on her part nonetheless to not say without reservation that she would support the nominee.

David Letterman and his audience seemed to like Hillary's policies, approach and tone just fine.  Video part 1 here.  Part 2 here.

Tags: Barack Obama, Fairy tales, Michelle Obama (all tags)



My opinion is that Michelle is a skank.

Of course I mean that in a nice way.

by dpANDREWS 2008-02-05 03:37AM | 0 recs
Re: My opinion is that Michelle is a skank.

The point here is that the diarist "makes up" fairy tales and then proceeds to trash them.

Isn't this tact called the strawman argument? Or does it just ask the old presumptive question: how often do you beat your wife?

by shergald 2008-02-05 04:27AM | 0 recs
she sure is a greedy yuppie snob

a $200,000 "raise after Barry gets his "Sen."

and then another $160,000 per annum, in cash and stock from the wal mart supplier for being on their "corporate board".

she also has been quoted complaining about not making enough money...not what she was worth...

god save us.

greed fit for a young republican.

by Seymour Glass 2008-02-05 03:55AM | 0 recs
was this ABO campaign started by republicans?

-just a hunch.

by Damien in Texas 2008-02-05 11:24AM | 0 recs
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well if he somehow gets the nom, all this stuff and more will get plenty of airplay leading up to a disastrous GE run

by atomic garden 2008-02-05 04:05AM | 0 recs
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All of it is old news. People have heard that 8 years ago. Yawn.

by werd2406 2008-02-05 09:08AM | 0 recs
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That still does not mean it will not inflame some old tensions.  Not to mention I highly doubt Hillary can attract those new voters and indies that Barrack brings into the party

by SocialDem 2008-02-05 11:14AM | 0 recs
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Glad you questioned Michele...her own "race" card was actually the first played.....

by Gloria 2008-02-05 04:45AM | 0 recs
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Ahh, time for the smear machine to get in one last disgusting hit piece before Super Tuesday.  So predictable.  

by NJIndependent 2008-02-05 05:19AM | 0 recs
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I couldn't agree more about Michelle's terrible tactics.  It's not smear, it is absolutely true.  I know because I've been to Michelle's appearances.  I also read a Newsweek article where the Obama camp admits it.  

Basically, the game plan is for Obama to leave race out of it because that would look bad.  However, Michelle, on the other hand, has complete carte blanche to address it in talks around the country.  And she does.  It gets condescending.  I am african-american and I took a white friend of mine to see her speak.  I was embarassed for both of us.  I agree that all this will come out in an ugly way for the GE.....  

by findthesource 2008-02-05 06:23AM | 0 recs
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Oprah has done her part too - pulling the Race card - telling blacks to vote for THE ONE -
the BLACK one.
by annefrank 2008-02-05 09:20AM | 0 recs
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She was fantastic on Letterman. Dave gave her the whole show (thank you Eli Manning for missing your plane) and was very nice to her. She also did a quick video appearance on Craig Ferguson's show, congratulating him on becoming a citizen last Friday (and asking for his vote).

by LakersFan 2008-02-05 06:27AM | 0 recs
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After Obama won his senatorial race in 2004 he quickly abandoned the antiwar rhetoric he had touted along the campaign trail. While remaining critical of the White House and the lies that pushed us toward war, Obama still maintained that U.S. military should remain in Iraq until the job was completed.

"Given the enormous stakes in Iraq, I believe that those of us who are involved in shaping our national security policies should do what we believe is right, not merely what is politically expedient," Obama proclaimed in a speech to the Chicago Council on Foreign Relations in late November 2005.

Later in that same speech, he said, "In sum, we have to focus, methodically and without partisanship, on those steps that will: one, stabilize Iraq, avoid all out civil war, and give the factions within Iraq the space they need to forge a political settlement; two, contain and ultimately extinguish the insurgency in Iraq; and three, bring our troops safely home."

Obama continues to favor a "phased redeployment" of our troops as well as "benchmarks" for the Iraqi government, but promises to not "fully withdraw" - hence why the Illinois senator has supported the majority of Bush administration's pork-engorged appropriation bills that are draining the U.S. Treasury. Obama wants to keep cadres of troops throughout Iraq with others all other the region to strike if necessary.

So where would President Obama send the troops he's redeployed? A good guess might be Iran.

As Obama told the Chicago Tribune on Sept. 26, 2004, "[T]he big question is going to be, if Iran is resistant to these pressures [to stop its nuclear program], including economic sanctions, which I hope will be imposed if they do not cooperate, at what point ... if any, are we going to take military action?"

He added that "launching some missile strikes into Iran is not the optimal position for us to be in" given the ongoing war in Iraq. "On the other hand, having a radical Muslim theocracy in possession of nuclear weapons is worse." Obama went on to argue that military strikes on Pakistan should not be ruled out if "violent Islamic extremists" were to "take over."

Iran is a "genuine threat" to the United States and Israel, Obama later expressed at a forum sponsored by AIPAC on March 12, 2007, in Washington, D.C. At the event Obama reiterated that he would not rule out the use of force in disarming Iran, a position he shares with rival Hillary Clinton.

Earlier that same month, on March 2, 2007, Obama spoke at an AIPAC Policy Forum in Chicago, where he succinctly laid out his position on how he would deal with the Middle East, promising not to alter America's lopsided relationship with Israel.

"[W]e must preserve our total commitment to our unique defense relationship with Israel by fully funding military assistance and continuing work on the Arrow and related missile defense programs," he said. "This would help Israel maintain its military edge and deter and repel attacks from as far as Tehran and as close as Gaza." 12312

by Tennessean 2008-02-05 07:22AM | 0 recs
questions you ducked on Daily Kos.

What evidence places Donna Brazile in the Obama "camp"?

What is the full quote that Michelle Obama provided regarding running her family ... you know, the one that talks about managing her kids' schedules?

As a community relations executive, did Michelle Obama have any role whatsoever in the situations you describe?

Has Hillary Clinton ever acknowledged that Barack Obama was qualified to be president, or has she consistently refused to answer?

by Adam B 2008-02-05 08:20AM | 0 recs
Re: questions you ducked on Daily Kos.

Adam, you really can't be claiming at this point that the oft-repeated line about "being able to run your own house" isn't a shot at the Clintons.  I mean, there's plausible deniability, but you're way past it at this stage.

by Steve M 2008-02-05 08:33AM | 0 recs
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The full quote:
Our view was that, if you can't run your own house, you certainly can't run the White House. So, so we've adjusted our schedules to make sure that our girls are first, so while he's traveling around, I do day trips. That means I get up in the morning, I get the girls ready, I get them off, I go and do trips, I'm home before bedtime.
by Adam B 2008-02-05 09:51AM | 0 recs
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Yes, that's the quote from that one occasion.  Come on, you know better than this.

by Steve M 2008-02-05 10:00AM | 0 recs
Re: questions you ducked on Daily Kos.

Is there a time she hasn't given the full explanation?  

Moreover, no one can seriously question that the Clintons raised Chelsea well.

by Adam B 2008-02-05 10:06AM | 0 recs
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That isn't what people think she is talking about.

by Mike Pridmore 2008-02-05 11:19AM | 0 recs
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Well, when you only give them a short excerpt, of course they're going to be deceived. Media Matters has been all over this.

by Adam B 2008-02-05 11:32AM | 0 recs
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Aren't they talking about the other clip?

by Mike Pridmore 2008-02-05 01:57PM | 0 recs
Re: questions you ducked on Daily Kos.

Do News Stations in Chicago dislike Obama?  Why would they think it was a slam at Hillary if it wasn't?  If you have full video of the second one, I would love to see it.  I want them to deal with this as well as possible.

by Mike Pridmore 2008-02-05 11:17AM | 0 recs
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I didn't see that one.  I posted it right before I started my teaching load at 8am central and I had to teach 4 hours staight through with only two 10 minute breaks, so I wasn't trying to duck anything.  You don't think Donna Brazile is an Obama supporter?  That's what I meant by "camp" in that context.  She is not paid by him as far as I know, but she clearly pushes a pro-Obama agenda.  

by Mike Pridmore 2008-02-05 08:44AM | 0 recs
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She very clearly said in the debate that either one of them would be better than the Republicans.

by Mike Pridmore 2008-02-05 08:45AM | 0 recs

This is what she's said:

RUSSERT: You may think you are the best prepared, but would you acknowledge that Senator Obama and Senator Edwards are both prepared to be president?

CLINTON: Well, I think that that's up to the voters to decide. I think that's something that voters have to make a decision about on all of us. They have to look at each and every one of us and imagine us in the Oval Office, imagine us as commander in chief, imagine us making tough decisions about everything we know we're going to have to deal with, and then all of the unpredictable events that come through the door of the White House and land on the desk of the president.

by Adam B 2008-02-05 09:52AM | 0 recs
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That's one quote.  There are others where she praises Barack too.

by Mike Pridmore 2008-02-05 11:18AM | 0 recs
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She has never, to my knowledge, said he's qualified to be president.

by Adam B 2008-02-05 11:33AM | 0 recs
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I got them from a friend.  Glad you enjoyed them. :)

by Mike Pridmore 2008-02-05 08:46AM | 0 recs
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I can't stand her after her comment about she didn't know if she would support Hillary if she was the nominee.

She was the board of a major vendor of Wal-Mart and quit a few days after Barack said he would not shop at Wal-Mart.  Then he had the nerve to say Hillary was on the board at that debate- but now I think I know why- I think he mentioned that because his campaign knew it was going to push the Wal-Mart story this week before Super Tuesday and the unions and what-not- thought it came and went pretty fast and no one cared.

by reasonwarrior 2008-02-05 09:07AM | 0 recs
ok, I get it now

The right wingers are gearing up their Obama attack machine, and people here are (either willfully or unwittingly) citing those hack job websites in order to promote HRC.

One accuses Obama of "Terrorizing the Uninsured."

Gimmee a break.

Sounds like a nice extracurricular project for some young political hack wannabe.

by Damien in Texas 2008-02-05 10:37AM | 0 recs
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The Obama's have raised victimhood to a high art form. Have you noticed how Obama uses the phrase "They said..." as a refrain in quite a few of his speeches before going on to castigate some amorphous "they" for throwing obstacles in his way. The Obama's to use a Brit phrase are tricky.

by superetendar 2008-02-05 11:23AM | 0 recs


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