Emily's List > NARAL

There has been quite an uproar over NARAL's endorsement of Barack Obama, and with good reason. Hillary Clinton's record of supporting choice is far more extensive than Barack (Present) Obama's. The timing reeks to high heaven. It was obviously done to help push Clinton from the race at a time when her candidacy is tenuous. NARAL's endorsement of the nominee, after the nomination had been decided, would have been expected and welcomed by most Democrats. Instead, they have jumped the gun and been peppered by thousands of complaints from infuriated supporters. Their state chapters are putting distance between themselves and NARAL's national office, calling the endorsement "premature".

Many protestors at the NARAL site and other progressive forums state they are withdrawing their support. I, too, disapprove of the endorsement, but it concerns me that resources would be diverted from the cause of choice. A temporary influx of $10-$20 contributions from Obama supporters will not be a sufficient replacement.

May I suggest former supporters of NARAL consider Emily's List?

"EMILY's List members are dedicated to building a progressive America by electing pro-choice Democratic women to office. We believe in the power of women as candidates, as contributors, as campaign professionals, and as voters to bring about great change in our country.

When women are involved in the political process, our democracy is truly representative. When women make policy, the needs of women and families are not ignored. When women vote, Democrats -- who share our values and priorities -- win.

EMILY's List is committed to a three-pronged strategy to elect pro-choice Democratic women: recruiting and funding viable women candidates; helping them build and run effective campaign organizations; and mobilizing women voters to help elect progressive candidates across the nation."

Personally, I have never been a member or financial supporter of either organization. Yet, both are worthy. It is my hope former supporters of NARAL will consider supporting Emily's List.


Tags: Emily's List, endorsement, NARAL (all tags)



Re: Emily's List > NARAL

More attacks on the Pro-Choice movement.

More of the old iron curtain style,  Milosovic would be so proud.

keep it classy.

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-15 10:26AM | 0 recs
who the heck do you think you are?

Interpreting disappointment in NARAL's endorsment to suggest that people are now anti-choice is beyond the pale.  And actually, kind of ridiculous.  Do you have nothing better to do with your day than trash everything and clearly mislead people?

by 4justice 2008-05-15 10:44AM | 0 recs
Re: who the heck do you think you are?

I suggest we leave trashing candidates and misleading people about their pro-choice records to the Clinton campaign and their enablers at NOW.

Don't forget that it was those election eve fliers that started all this.  

by Jordache 2008-05-15 11:26AM | 0 recs
Re: who the heck do you think you are?

Now that's classy....  :(

by ChitownDenny 2008-05-15 12:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL
Yes, keep it classy. I find people actually read what you write when it stays that way. But attacks on the pro-choice movement?Milosevic? Iron curtain? C'mon, George.
by Jeter 2008-05-15 10:55AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

I bring up the "Oppresive Regime" examples when you have people calling for the defamation and bankruptcy of an organzation just because they endorsed the nominee.

Yea, I know there are no killings or street violence as we see in Zimbabwe, but in the end it all sounds the same.

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-15 11:07AM | 0 recs
Cut off your nose to spite your face.

by dystopianfuturetoday 2008-05-15 10:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

I would just support them both, even though Emily's List supports Clinton, and has for months.

I don't put my own petty desire for one Democratic contender over supporting the right of a woman to control her own body.

by bjones 2008-05-15 10:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Is Paul your brother?

by astoria gooner 2008-05-15 10:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Do you know how funny that would be if true?

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-15 10:31AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Pardon my language, but what a bunch of horseshit. Who gives a damn who they endorse? They've been working on important issues for women, just as much as Emily's List and a variety of other organizations, and you're gonna throw 'em under a bus because of your political affiliations? Grow the hell up and get lost.

by ragekage 2008-05-15 10:29AM | 0 recs
Your type of Clinton Supporter=Classless


Emily's List is an organization formed to support candidacies of pro-choice women seeking election to higher office (such as the Hill-billary).

NARAL is an organization formed to advance and protect a woman's right to choose by whatever means necessary.

NARAL has determined that Hillary's classless and mathematically improbable campaign is tearing down the party, and that Barack Obama is a strong and vigilant defender of a woman's right to choose.

By showing yourself to be unable to tell the difference between these two organizations, you reveal yourself to be a false progressive...a Clinton supporter willing to tear down a movement out of blind loyalty to one person.

by NYMinute 2008-05-15 10:31AM | 0 recs
This is my favorite line:

"A temporary influx of $10-$20 contributions from Obama supporters will not be a sufficient replacement."

Since Obama has 1.5 million donors, I would say that statement is a little shortsighted.  Although I appreciate the insinuation that we can only give small amounts.  It's better than the previous talking point that all of Obama's supporters are rich.

by The Distillery 2008-05-15 10:32AM | 0 recs
Re: This is my favorite line:

"A temporary influx of $10-$20 contributions from Obama supporters will not be a sufficient replacement."

It's this dismissive attitude of the new model of fundraising that the Obama campaign is waging that explains why the Clinton Campaign is $20 million in Debt and owes another $11 million to the Clintons.  We on the other hand are awash in the resources to take this fight to the general election

out with the old, in with the new

by xenontab 2008-05-15 10:39AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL


by TexasDarlin 2008-05-15 10:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Excellent.  And rec'd!

by ChitownDenny 2008-05-15 10:36AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Wow a republican against The right to choose.

how shocking,  Begala and TexasDarling, you must be so proud to have the McCain camp behind you:

by GeorgeP922 2008-05-15 10:44AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

They aren't the same organization and have two different missions.  I don't know why you can't support both.

by kasjogren 2008-05-15 10:36AM | 0 recs
Trying to keep resources for choice

The organizations aren't identical, true. But their missions are directionally the same, and I'd rather see former NARAL resources go to Emily's list as opposed to no longer supporting choice.

by Michael Begala 2008-05-15 10:42AM | 0 recs
Already done, thanks.

I support NARAL, I just question and don't agree with this endorsment.  

by 4justice 2008-05-15 10:47AM | 0 recs
I joined Emily's List.

by Molee 2008-05-15 10:48AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Why not support both?

by spacemanspiff 2008-05-15 10:51AM | 0 recs
A "greater than" diary, eh?

Here's some more:

Red Sox > Yankees
University of Virginia > Virginia Tech
Honey Mustard > Mustard > Mayonnaise
Chocolate > Vanilla
Real World > Road Rules
Young Elvis > Old Elvis
Starsky > Hutch
Any Democrat > McCain
Godfather II > Godfather
Star Wars > Star Trek
Western Carolina BBQ > Eastern Carolina BBQ

by Slim Tyranny 2008-05-15 10:53AM | 0 recs
though, really,

to keep with the theme of "Nonsensical Greater Than Comparisons", perhaps there are more appropriate:

Coffee > Clock Radio
Pencil > Steering Wheel
Moon > Leather
Ennui > Cell Phone
Dramatic Prairie Dog > Euclidean Mathematics

by Slim Tyranny 2008-05-15 10:56AM | 0 recs
Re: A "greater than" diary, eh?
That's good, Slim. I think Battlestar Gallactica>Star Trek>Star Wars I have no nice thing to say about your highly erroneous Red Sox>Yankees, but must confess that the Yankees did give the Red Sox one or two victories to increase excitement in the League. Well, actually the Bronx bombers choked and the BoSox were really hot twice in one century so maybe your better than thing is not that inaccurate. Alex was going throiugh a really tough time. Letting Bernie go was disastrous. He was like my uncle.
by Jeter 2008-05-15 11:01AM | 0 recs

you're dead to me!!!!

by Slim Tyranny 2008-05-15 11:22AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

at a minimum, it's rude for them to treat a viable female candidate who has been a champion of their cause for so long.

all of obama's 'present' votes in IL on women's issues finally paid off.

by darwinism 2008-05-15 11:34AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Apparently many NARAL affiliates agree with you. The outrage is erupting from  Oregon to New York. Someone better tell the Obama campaign they really can't buy the Presidency. Or maybe they can. John Edwards thinks so.

by linfar 2008-05-15 01:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

Apaprently, NARAL thought that you can't have reproductive rights without having a man on top.

by darwinism 2008-05-16 05:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

EMILY's list is a white women only group. No they do not represent all women just white women.  

by sweet potato pie 2008-05-15 11:38AM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

NARAL has had a long and honorable history and many many women have benefited from its work.

To cut off it's oxygen because it has endorsed Obama is taking a scorched earth policy to absurd lengths. Obama will not be hurt, women will.

(and just to make it clear I am not objecting to people supporting Emily's List, I am objecting to transferring funds from one to the other, in whatever direction, in order to make some sort of 'point')

by My Ob 2008-05-15 12:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

It's fairly clear from diaries like this that Clinton supporters here on MyDD put their candidate ahead of issues.

Someone above in the comments put this so perfectly: "Cut off your nose to spite your face."

Well done.

by chinapaulo 2008-05-15 12:32PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

And some of us see a sellout when there is one.  

by linfar 2008-05-15 01:16PM | 0 recs
There are other groups

I will find another simliar group or cause to support.  The way NARAL does business (doesn't even consult with its state affiliates on a matter that could spell the demise of their soperations) suggests that group is under INFERIOR leadership.  Let me see resignations at the top and I will reconsider.

by The Smoldering Crone 2008-05-15 01:28PM | 0 recs
Emily's List

Thanks for posting this. I just joined Emily's List. I am very disappointed (nice way of saying mad as hell) in NARAL's endorsement of Obama. Very disrespectful of Hillary. Hillary has been working for woman's rights around the world. Obama's record doesn't compare, not even close.

by grlpatriot 2008-05-15 12:48PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List

Hi. Some of the NARAL affiliates are outraged too. Apparently Obama's friend at National decided to overstep her authority.

by linfar 2008-05-15 01:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List

Yeah, I just heard about this development. I think this is just the beginning of a larger backlash regarding Hillary's treatment in this primary.

by grlpatriot 2008-05-15 02:05PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List vs. NARAL

I agree with you, Michael.

In the past I have supported NARAL with volunteer work and contributions.  I have never supported Emily's List, not because I don't think it's worthy, but because I have limited resources (as we all do) and prefer to focus on specific causes.

But I read Ellen Malcolm's opinion piece in the Washington Post (Quitters Never Win, at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2008/05/09/AR2008050902298. html) and was heartened to see it.  On the other hand, NARAL has shot itself in the foot.  There are other ways to support abortion rights than NARAL, and Emily's List is one of them.  Therefore, why choose NARAL?

What we have to do now is support women directly.  If this primary season has proved anything, it is that, if we thought we in America were in any way immune from the demeaning regard in which women are held around the world, we were wrong.  

Read Marie Cocco's excellent opinion piece, called Misogyny I Won't Miss, in the Washington Post today (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con tent/article/2008/05/14/AR2008051403090. html).   She lists the "Bros before Hos" T-shirts of the Obama campaign (yes, he is responsible for them), the Hillary nutcrackers, Citizens United Not Timid, and of course the many woman-haters in the media, along with a few of their girl (Obama-girl?) hangers-on, like Randi Rhodes, and more.

Where I disagree with Cocco is that I don't think it will be over when a Democratic nominee is selected.  For one thing, if it's Obama it will be the first time in my life that I don't vote for the Democrat.  I think women need to make the society understand that we can no longer be disrespected.  I have moved from believing I could support Obama if Hillary didn't win, to deciding that I will not vote for Obama, to deciding that I will vote for McCain, to deciding that even after the election I will continue working to dethrone everyone who has been a part of this travesty.

Women must make sure that there is payback.  Anything else would be like marrying the rapist.

by PlainWords 2008-05-15 01:01PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List vs. NARAL

Apparently at lot of Naral affiliates agree with you. They are erupting with outrage in Oregon, New York and Missouri to name only a few. great comment, PW, thanks.

by linfar 2008-05-15 01:13PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List vs. NARAL

I'm with you, Plain Words. I've been astounded by the behavior I've witnessed during this primary with regards to how Hillary was treated. The sexism and double standards have been beyond belief. And that fellow "Democrats" where behind most of it is the biggest betrayal of all.

by grlpatriot 2008-05-15 02:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List vs. NARAL

I agree.  I don't understand why this endorsement had to come now.  There is only three weeks left.  Abortion is not an issue in this primary as both candidates basically have identical points of view.  This is not what we need.  I think this is bad for NARAL, bad for Democrats, and bad for women.

by psychodrew 2008-05-15 03:16PM | 0 recs
Might I suggest

    that Hillary supporters simply calm down. After all, it was another organization whose president called Ted Kennedy a traitor to the cause for supporting Obama over Hillary.

   Criticize NARAL all you want, but Obama will be just as effective a pro-choice advocate as Hillary.

by southernman 2008-05-15 01:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Might I suggest

Yes, calm down, sweetie.
{pats on head}


by adrienne4dean 2008-05-15 02:37PM | 0 recs
Re: Might I suggest

   Give me a break! If you're offended by that, well...get counseling or something. Thats just ridiculous.
by southernman 2008-05-15 02:57PM | 0 recs
I vote Present

by indus 2008-05-15 03:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Might I suggest

We all see where this race is going.  That endorsement will have no impact on voting, the outcome, or the right to choose.  For a lot of Hillary supporters, in light of her years of commitment to choice, it is a big slap in the face.

by psychodrew 2008-05-15 03:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Emily's List > NARAL

southernman says: Criticize NARAL all you want, but Obama will be just as effective a pro-choice advocate as Hillary.

I should say, voting "present" is very effective

by LA 2008-05-15 02:43PM | 0 recs
Good Point....


by nikkid 2008-05-15 05:04PM | 0 recs


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