Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give the next nominee a Clintonista cage?

Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give the next nominee a Clintonista cage?

Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give the next nominee a Clintonista cage?

As much as the Democratic Party has done well to wrest control of government from the Republiklan party, have they done in 2008 much what they did in 2006, replace the klanservative Republiklan wing from congress with conservatives in the Democratic Party.

I did not vote for Hillary Clinton as I see her as a conservative Democrat. She openly boasted in her campaign that she had no plans for government run health care in her so called universal plan.

The so called universal plan still uses the private sector insurance companies to insure health.

I want to see single payer health care as either an option for anyone OR as the only option. I.E. Medicare for everyone.

The doctors would not work for the government but would get paid by the government if you could not afford medical care.

Anyway with these Clintonista appointments the Democratic Party has put a cage around the Obama administration.

For the most part I liked the Clinton Presidency, until they threw the welfare beneficiaries over the bough of the ship with the 1996 welfare punishment law, when they finally gave into the wolves of the Republiklan party in order to get reelected.

Do we have a semi permanent centrist government merely switching from the Democratic party and the Republiklan party and back and forth?

We need a $10 an hour minimum wage, HR 676 enacted into law, and Medicare Part D shifted into part B and stripped of the extra monthly premium,  the extra annual deductible, the means tests for the benefit and Part B, and the coverage gap, and the late sign up penalties for not signing up for the meager Medicare Part D benefit. We also need an end to the war in Iraq, and we need to pressure the oil companies to keep their gas prices below $2 a gallon.

We also need the employee free choice act enacted into law, and we need to have unemployment insurance managed in a more compassionate way than the way the wolves in the Republiklan party have done since 1995. We also need to change Nafta and the other shaftas to raise salaries in foreign countries and limit the outsourcing of factories and jobs and end this 21st century colonialism which destroys good paying jobs at home.

Have we traded the klanservatives for our own conservatives?

I hope not.

I already sent a fax to Senator Schumer in NY telling him I will abstain from voting for him if he does not get a fix to the Prescription drug benefit passed by the end of 2009. I told him that he has no excuse any longer not to act and fix that program that has holes for the middle class and does not benefit them.

If I wanted to vote for a centrist President I would have joined a center party.





********** ADDENDUM **********

Apparently, the troll raters have decided to hide my comments so I will post them here.

Bill Clinton did fine until he helped the Republiklan party throw the welfare beneficiaries over the bough of the ship like terrorists threw Leon Klinghoffer over a ship.

The Moderazis of the Democratic Party don't care about the less fortunate very much. They don't want to undo the nasty policies of the Republiklan party for the last 28 years.

These Moderazis ignore the people who died as a result of the Republiklan party FDA that did not do anything while thousands of people died of Celebrex, and Vioxx.

These Moderazis ignored the police officers and fire fighters who died because the Republiklan party EPA head Christy Todd Whitman lied to police officers and firefighters and said that air at ground zero appeared safe.

These Moderazis don't care that private health insurance companies and drug companies ripped of middle class seniors and disabled people with that Medicare Part D, and before that with those greedy HMOs.

These Moderazis just exist and say well things appear nice that we have Obama as President. I voted for Barack Obama because he won the Democratic Nomination.

I did not vote for the candidate of the Moderazi party. I voted for Barack Obama and he won the Presidential election.

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by ellington 2008-11-30 04:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give

Get with the program, and stop complaining.  Obama is what we voted for, and Obama is what we got.

Whatever he is inside, that's our new president.

We didn't want him vetted, so he didn't get vetted.  Now we get what we deserve.

by ellington 2008-11-30 04:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give

I WANT MY MCCAIN!!!!

by Jess81 2008-11-30 05:07AM | 0 recs
Re: Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give

You homosexuals are getting pathetic.  Why not start your own party and stop messing ours up?

by ellington 2008-11-30 09:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give

If you want to make fun of gay Republicans that's fine with me.

by Jess81 2008-12-02 09:13AM | 0 recs
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 The alternative was Clinton, you know, the person the diarist trashes here.  

The type of circular reasoning displayed here is not blessed by logic, is just reflexive nonsense.

by devilrays 2008-12-01 10:39AM | 0 recs
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by ellington 2008-11-30 05:06AM | 0 recs
Then

"I want to see single payer health care as either an option for anyone OR as the only option. I.E. Medicare for everyone."

Hopefully you voted for Dennis Kucinich....

and as you can see by the number of votes he got, he did not get much support for single payer health care....

A Pres Obama and his team will get healthcare reform pushed through and it won't be single payer, but it will be better than what we have now.

by nikkid 2008-11-30 05:58AM | 0 recs
It's so cold in Pittsburgh!

I can't wait to go back to Tampa tomorrow.  How's the weather in your neck of the woods?

by psychodrew 2008-11-30 06:28AM | 0 recs
Winner Take All System

The United States has a winner take all system, and not a parlimentary system. That is the president and each member of congress is elected by a plurality of the votes for that particular race. In a parlimentary system, people vote for a party and the number of seats in parliment are proportioned according to the percentage of votes each party received. Thus, in a winner take all system, political coalitions are formed at the grassroots level rather than at a parlimentary or congressional level because failure to do so would cause people to "waste" there vote. Thus, we have a two party system.

If you want a multi-party system where everyone can vote their political preferences and let the politicians for the political coalitions, then you should support a constitutional amendment changing America's winner take all system into a parlimentary system. You will fail because that would go against American tradition.

"Tradition! Tradition! Tradition!"

A Fiddler on a Roof, who's up there day and night. He fiddles when it rains, he fiddles when it snows, I've never seen him rest, yet on and on he goes....

by Zzyzzy 2008-11-30 09:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Did the Democratic Party secretly pla

Clintonista, republiKLAN, wow you're a bit out there, and easy to see how you're destined to be continually disappointed with any government that will get elected in the US.

by swissffun 2008-11-30 09:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Did the Democratic Party secretly pla

excuse me? the clintonistas who threw welfare beneficiaries to the Republiklan wolves in 1996 with the welfare punishment law and the Republiklan party run executive agencies that killed people due to lack of regulation, and you call me out there?

Ha so punishment and death appear ok to you. You appear out there.

by maximus7 2008-11-30 01:44PM | 0 recs
Did the Democratic Party secretly pla

So I appear out there because I object to the Clintons throwing welfare beneficiaries over the side of the ship like terrorists threw Leon Klinghoffer over the ship back in the 90's?

So I appear out there because I object to the fact that the Republiklan FDA killed thousands of Vioxx and Celebrex users and the Republiklan EPA killed hundreds of police and firefighters who worked in the dangerous air down at ground zero?

Amazing how moderates will dimiss this stuff because it appears inconvenient for them and tell liberals to shut up.

That's how millions of good germans during 1945 said oh no you mean millions of jews got carted off and killed in what? concentration camps?

You bet I will speak out and if it bothers you, then TOUGH.

A moderate to me means that you'll accept a moderate amoutn of abuse by the Republiklan party and their deadly policies.

by maximus7 2008-11-30 02:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Did the Democratic Party secretly pla

Interesting diary, but you failed Godwin's law pretty quickly.  You know how they say timing is everything?  Well, that's misleading, delivery is also a huge factor.

by KLRinLA 2008-11-30 06:17PM | 0 recs
you're truly disgusting

for insinuating the things you do about the Clintons. Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton did more for blacks than any Presidents in the near quarter century prior to them. They appointed more minorities than any previous Presidents, and unlike Bush, the Clintons meant it. Clinton ending welfare and crime as issues is why Obama could win election in a country polarized by race not too long ago. Think 1988, with images of Willie Horton on the screen.

by Lakrosse 2008-11-30 02:28PM | 0 recs
the record is a bit more mixed

Things like AEDPA and the Ricky Ray Rector stunt are a bit hard to justify from a civil rights perspective.

by JJE 2008-11-30 03:50PM | 0 recs
Rector was a murderer

who was not retarded when he killed. Also, executing him prevented another Willie Horton, which would have gotten Bush re-elected and hurt civil rights worse than just Rector himself, if it actually hurt, which it didn't.

by Lakrosse 2008-11-30 03:55PM | 0 recs
Who cares

whether he was retarded at the time?  Killing the retarded is heinous.

Glad to see you acknowledge that it was nothing more than a cynical election ploy.  Since my point was that BC's civil rights record is not as overwhelmingly positive as you asserted, I'll take that and your silence on AEDPA as you conceding that point.

by JJE 2008-11-30 04:52PM | 0 recs
Re: Who cares

what is AEDPA? then I'll comment on it

by Lakrosse 2008-11-30 06:33PM | 0 recs
by JJE 2008-11-30 10:04PM | 0 recs
fighting terrorism is wrong?

thats why we didn't have massive 9/11 style attacks during his presidency: he FOUGHT terror.

by Lakrosse 2008-12-01 12:57PM | 0 recs
Did you read past the title?

Specifically, all the new pointless hurdles placed in the way of habeas petitioners?

by JJE 2008-12-01 05:12PM | 0 recs
Did the Democratic Party secretly plan to give

I said that the Clintons did some good until 1996 until Bill signed that welfare punishment law. If you like that law then you approve of the Republiklan party.

Hillary appears a conservative, to me.

by maximus7 2008-11-30 02:56PM | 0 recs
we needed to end welfare as we knew it

so we could make it a second chance, not a way of life. Welfare was one of the GOPs biggest weapons against Democrats, and used it to tar as in 68, 72, 80, 84, and 88. Clinton wiped it off the table. Also, the law encourages finding jobs, not just having tons of kids and dawdling. I'm no Republiklan.

by Lakrosse 2008-11-30 03:56PM | 0 recs
Re: we needed to end welfare as we knew it

YOU say they needed to end welfare.

I disagree. The Republiklan party has used this as a political hatchet for election after election, and their klanservative followers lapped it up election after election.

So pragmatic little you decided that punishing people appeared ok, so that you can get proud of America and keep a Democrat in the White House.

Frankly, we need to have women stop popping out people like you with your moderazi opinions, and willingness to throw the weakest in society to the Republiklan party wolves.

by maximus7 2008-11-30 05:25PM | 0 recs
Re: we needed to end welfare as we knew it

Hopefully you're just here to rile people up... if you're actually sincere in your rantings, you're an absolute fucking moron.

Either way, I'm a bigger moron for even engaging you.

by thatpurplestuff 2008-11-30 05:44PM | 0 recs
Re: we needed to end welfare as we knew it

While I think some of your criticisms of the Clintons and the moderate wing of the Democratic Party are valid, not to mention the Republican Party, calling people on this board Nazis is uncalled for.

by TheUnknown285 2008-11-30 06:15PM | 0 recs
I placed my comments in an update in the post

since the downraters decided to rate them and make them disappear.

So much for the Moderazis on this blog and in the Democratic Party who do not like progressives or liberals.

by maximus7 2008-11-30 10:31PM | 0 recs
This is hilarious

Really I haven't had breakfast yet, so I'm not fully awake, but this diary and your attached comments are pretty funny.

I don't think the others appreciate what you're trying to do here.

You are creating a detailed caricature of what Bill O'Reilly thinks goes on in liberal blogs, right?

by Dracomicron 2008-12-01 05:39AM | 0 recs
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I did not vote for Hillary Clinton as I see her as a conservative Democrat. She openly boasted in her campaign that she had no plans for government run health care in her so called universal plan.

The so called universal plan still uses the private sector insurance companies to insure health.

I want to see single payer health care as either an option for anyone OR as the only option. I.E. Medicare for everyone.

Pure insanity.  If health care is your issue, and only single-payer will do with universal healthcare to be disdained, WHY IN ALL BLAZES DID YOU VOTE FOR OBAMA?   His health insurance proposal was far less inclusive and universal than either Edwards' or Hillary's, after all.  

by devilrays 2008-12-01 10:43AM | 0 recs

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