• If you had actually watched the video you would know that it is quite recent. Moyers comments after the press club appearance and after Barack broke with him. You might want to actually watch the vid I posted before commenting. But I guess that is what Hillary supporters do - stick their fingers in their ears and say "La La La I'm not listening". You would rather have your glorified image of Clinton rather than the obvious evidence of her true self.
  • comment on a post THANK You, Overzealous HRC Supporters! [update] over 6 years ago

    http://www.publicintegrity.org/clintonwa lmart/index.htm

  • How Hillary's Campaign and GWB's Iraq War are Alike:

    1. Both were arrogant enough to think that they will just walk over the competition.

    1. Both had the unfounded confidence that once they beat the so called opposition they will be greeted with flowers, no matter what it takes to win.
    2. Both did not do any grass root work to find out what the ground reality is.
    3. Both are adament that their strategy was sound.
    4. Both never anticipated a long drawn out battle.
    5. Both surround themselves with 'yes-men'.
    6. Both are reluctant to change their strategy because that would be tantamount to accepting that there was/is something wrong with it in the first place

    This from the LA times this morning (Yes CA)
    Some polls show her leading in Ohio but tied in Texas; the race in both states is considered close.

    Already, some in Clinton's senior staff are pointing fingers over what went wrong, with some of the blame aimed at Clinton herself. As the race unfolded, neither Clinton nor anyone else resolved the internal power struggles that played out with destructive effect and continue to this day.

    Chief strategist and pollster Mark Penn clashed with senior advisor Harold Ickes, former deputy campaign manager Mike Henry and others. Field organizers battled with Clinton's headquarters in northern Virginia. Campaign themes were rolled out and discarded, reflecting tensions among a staff bitterly divided over what Clinton's basic message should be.

    The dispute over Bill Clinton's schedule shows how easily plans can unravel. Some campaign staffers didn't expect to win South Carolina overall, but "our strategy was to go after specific districts in South Carolina" to add to the delegate total while freeing Bill Clinton to spend time in other Southern states, said a Clinton campaign aide.

    But Bill Clinton said " 'I need to be in South Carolina,' " the aide said. "It was a one-man mission out there."

    Obama, who leads Clinton in delegates, would pose problems for any candidate. But aides to Clinton said the dysfunction within her campaign team made its task that much tougher.

    Joe Trippi, a senior advisor to John Edwards' now-dropped Democratic campaign, said: "At some point the candidate has to step in and bust heads and say 'Enough!'

    "If there's fighting internally, the candidate has to step up and make it clear what direction she wants to go and stop this stuff dead in its tracks. Otherwise there's going to be a struggle for power and control right until the end. It's crippling."

    Last month, after a series of defeats, Hillary Clinton chose a new campaign manager, replacing Patti Solis Doyle. But she left in place many senior people, including Penn and Ickes, who have been involved in incessant turf wars.

    As the campaign faces a make-or-break moment, some high-level officials are trying to play down their role in the campaign. Penn said in an e-mail over the weekend that he had "no direct authority in the campaign," describing himself as merely "an outside message advisor with no campaign staff reporting to me."

    "I have had no say or involvement in four key areas -- the financial budget and resource allocation, political or organizational sides. Those were the responsibility of Patti Solis Doyle, Harold Ickes and Mike Henry, and they met separately on all matters relating to those areas."

    Howard Wolfson, the campaign's communications chief, answered that it was Penn who had top responsibility for both its strategy and message. Another aide said Penn spoke to Clinton routinely about the campaign's message and ran daily meetings on the topic.

    One running debate within Clinton's campaign was whether her defeats -- she has lost 11 straight contests -- were due to organizational lapses or a faulty message.

    Some aides say organizational problems were the most significant, as Obama outworked Clinton in many states and sent in organizers earlier.

    That problem may go back to well before the lead-off contest, in Iowa. In June, Clinton's Iowa staff requested 150 organizers; headquarters approved a budget for 90.

    By September, Iowa staff were sending out warnings about Obama's strength. "We are being outnumbered on the ground on a daily basis by his campaign, and it is beginning to show results," said a memo to top campaign officials on Sept. 26, about three months before the state's caucuses.

    Clinton's "call time into Iowa is routinely cut. . . . Not only does Obama spend more time in Iowa . . . but he spends more time making political phone calls into Iowa as well," the memo said. "His persistence and one-on-one approach has earned Obama the support of several key activists who are decision-makers in their counties."

    The memo asked for 100 more field organizers "immediately."

    Later, Clinton did bring more organizers to Iowa. She finished third, behind Obama and Edwards.

    The campaign also had trouble settling on a way to confront Obama. Top aides could not agree on whether, or how, to attack him.

    "Why aren't we attacking him?" Bill Clinton asked at a high-level staff meeting Dec. 1 at the Clintons' Washington home, according to people familiar with events. With aides sitting around the dining room table, Bill Clinton said it was time to get more aggressive with Obama.

    The following day, in Iowa, Hillary Clinton called a news conference to execute the strategy of questioning Obama's character. "Now the fun part starts," she said.

    But the attacks were sporadic. Aides warned that Iowans dislike personal attacks, so Clinton quickly pulled back. Sustained criticism of Obama didn't come until later in the campaign season.

    Another unresolved question went to the core of Clinton's identity. Penn wanted to emphasize her "strength and experience" and her command of issues -- an approach the campaign adopted.

    But others worried that in emphasizing her steely resolve, the campaign was ignoring the reality that many voters disliked Clinton. They wanted to humanize her.

    The campaign produced a 60-second television ad before the Iowa caucuses that attempted to do so. In it, Clinton told the story of her mother leaving Chicago on a train at age 8, accompanied only by her 3-year-old sister, to live with grandparents in Los Angeles. It was a poignant story that campaign aides hoped would also highlight Clinton's interest in children's issues.

    But Penn tested the advertisement with voters. He reported back that it did not play well in Iowa, and it never aired -- leaving some aides grumbling that an opportunity had been missed.

    The dispute flared anew after Clinton's defeat in South Carolina. At a meeting in the Arlington, Va., headquarters, Penn and others gave a PowerPoint presentation on what was billed as a new message: Clinton would be championing "Solutions for America."

    Henry, then the deputy campaign manager, objected, according to people at the meeting. He said it sounded like a repackaging of the old message that Clinton was a strong leader rather than a warm person. Indeed, a top item in the PowerPoint was "strength and experience" -- a theme Clinton had been stressing for months.

    Henry asked: "Is this what we're doing, or is it up for discussion?"

    Penn said Clinton had already approved the new message.

    At that point, Henry asked if the campaign had learned anything from its defeats. It should be clear, he said, that voters want to see a more human side of her.

    "This is not bringing out the humanity in her," Henry said, according to people present.

    Penn countered that the reason for many of her defeats, particularly in smaller states, had been a lack of organization, not the message -- a swipe at Henry and others in field work.

    In the end, Clinton backed Penn. Henry left the campaign. And Clinton has been casting herself as someone in the "solutions business" -- a message she repeats as she makes a stand in Ohio and Texas.

    The campaign dubbed her final weekend appearances in Texas and Ohio "Solutions for America" rallies.

    " 'Solutions for America,' " one campaign aide said. "It sounds like something you'd buy at the pharmacy."
    http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la- na-clintoncamp3mar03,0,341905,full.story

    This article reminds me of another all out disaster in judgement. It was a documentary I saw:
    http://www.noendinsightmovie.com/

  • http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opinio n/24rich.html
    But it's the Clinton strategists, not the Obama voters, who drank the Kool-Aid. The Obama campaign is not a vaporous cult; it's a lean and mean political machine that gets the job done. The Clinton camp has been the slacker in this race, more words than action, and its candidate's message, for all its purported high-mindedness, was and is self-immolating.
    The gap in hard work between the two campaigns was clear well before Feb. 5. Mrs. Clinton threw as much as $25 million at the Iowa caucuses without ever matching Mr. Obama's organizational strength. In South Carolina, where last fall she was up 20 percentage points in the polls, she relied on top-down endorsements and the patina of inevitability, while the Obama campaign built a landslide-winning organization from scratch at the grass roots. In Kansas, three paid Obama organizers had the field to themselves for three months; ultimately Obama staff members outnumbered Clinton staff members there 18 to 3.
    In the last battleground, Wisconsin, the Clinton campaign was six days behind Mr. Obama in putting up ads and had only four campaign offices to his 11. Even as Mrs. Clinton clings to her latest firewall -- the March 4 contests -- she is still being outhustled. Last week she told reporters that she "had no idea" that the Texas primary system was "so bizarre" (it's a primary-caucus hybrid), adding that she had "people trying to understand it as we speak." Perhaps her people can borrow the road map from Obama's people. In Vermont, another March 4 contest, The Burlington Free Press reported that there were four Obama offices and no Clinton offices as of five days ago. For what will no doubt be the next firewall after March 4, Pennsylvania on April 22, the Clinton campaign is sufficiently disorganized that it couldn't file a complete slate of delegates by even an extended ballot deadline.
  • comment on a post Media Bias? or Hillary the victim? over 6 years ago

    The "experience" meme was started by Hillary. Bill started with the from the beginning with the meme that he just started in the senate and started running for president.

    I think it is valid that if you are going to tout your "experience" you need to be able to back that up. Regardless of her claim that she had more of a role than other first lady's in diplomacy, she is not an elected official, chosen by the people. She can state that she did, but can she prove it.

    She has been all about making Obama prove his worthiness, and he has held elected office LONGER THAN SHE HAS.

    Again you are playing the gender card, as if Obama came up with "drinking tea" out of the blue.
    She has been attacking him on his experience while she has been running on her experience as first lady.

    I want a Woman president. I want one who has had to fight her way up, like Obama has, from the ground up. Only in that way do you have the maturity, and the judgement to lead. Which Hillary, has shown a lack in both.

    Its more than great speeches. See the article that Obama wrote in Foreign Affairs Magazine in July. This is how we regain America's standing in the world.
    http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20070701fa essay86401/barack-obama/renewing-america n-leadership.html

  • Um yes she did.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saBU6ux0h sQ

    "It's not a very long run," Clinton predicted in late December. "It'll be over by February 5."

    An Hillary supporters tell US we are deluded.
    Come on people - how many videotapes do you have to see?

  • You are so right...it is a great left wing, right wing, media, newspaper, internet conspiracy.
    Everybody loves Obama. But only you..you small band of Hillary supporters know the truth right? I mean every major political junkie website is disgusted with Hillary's antics and have vetted Obama thoroughly. Smart people know Obama is the real deal.

    But you just go on playing the Hillary vitcim ok?

  • But it's the Clinton strategists, not the Obama voters, who drank the Kool-Aid. The Obama campaign is not a vaporous cult; it's a lean and mean political machine that gets the job done. The Clinton camp has been the slacker in this race, more words than action, and its candidate's message, for all its purported high-mindedness, was and is self-immolating.
    The gap in hard work between the two campaigns was clear well before Feb. 5. Mrs. Clinton threw as much as $25 million at the Iowa caucuses without ever matching Mr. Obama's organizational strength. In South Carolina, where last fall she was up 20 percentage points in the polls, she relied on top-down endorsements and the patina of inevitability, while the Obama campaign built a landslide-winning organization from scratch at the grass roots. In Kansas, three paid Obama organizers had the field to themselves for three months; ultimately Obama staff members outnumbered Clinton staff members there 18 to 3.
    In the last battleground, Wisconsin, the Clinton campaign was six days behind Mr. Obama in putting up ads and had only four campaign offices to his 11. Even as Mrs. Clinton clings to her latest firewall -- the March 4 contests -- she is still being outhustled. Last week she told reporters that she "had no idea" that the Texas primary system was "so bizarre" (it's a primary-caucus hybrid), adding that she had "people trying to understand it as we speak." Perhaps her people can borrow the road map from Obama's people. In Vermont, another March 4 contest, The Burlington Free Press reported that there were four Obama offices and no Clinton offices as of five days ago. For what will no doubt be the next firewall after March 4, Pennsylvania on April 22, the Clinton campaign is sufficiently disorganized that it couldn't file a complete slate of delegates by even an extended ballot deadline.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opinio n/24rich.html

    Need more facts? Hillary runs her campaign like GWB ran the Iraq War

  • 1. Both were arrogant enough to think that they will just walk over the competition.

    2. Both had the unfounded confidence that once they beat the so called opposition they will be greeted with flowers, no matter what it takes to win.

    3. Both did not do any grass root work to find out what the ground reality is.

    4. Both are adament that their strategy was sound.

    5. Both never anticipated a long drawn out battle.

    6. Both surround themselves with 'yes-men'.

    7. Both are reluctant to change their strategy because that would be tantamount to accepting that there was/is something wrong with it in the first place.

    The list can go on and on.

  • Thank you. I only wish more Hillary supporters were this intelligent.

  • comment on a post OBAMA CAMPAIGN IN FREEFALL; PANIC PREVAILS over 6 years ago

    OMG!!! you are the person who posted this? You mean it is not a joke?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    That makes it even more Hillarious.

    Wow and they say us Obama supporters are drinking the kool aid.

    But all joking aside...for you thinking people out there, I suggest to take a look at how Hillary has run her campaign so far. Not very inspiring at all. Take the main post, insert Hillary's name for Obama's, and then you've got a truthful post:
    From the NYT:
    But it's the Clinton strategists, not the Obama voters, who drank the Kool-Aid. The Obama campaign is not a vaporous cult; it's a lean and mean political machine that gets the job done. The Clinton camp has been the slacker in this race, more words than action, and its candidate's message, for all its purported high-mindedness, was and is self-immolating.
    The gap in hard work between the two campaigns was clear well before Feb. 5. Mrs. Clinton threw as much as $25 million at the Iowa caucuses without ever matching Mr. Obama's organizational strength. In South Carolina, where last fall she was up 20 percentage points in the polls, she relied on top-down endorsements and the patina of inevitability, while the Obama campaign built a landslide-winning organization from scratch at the grass roots. In Kansas, three paid Obama organizers had the field to themselves for three months; ultimately Obama staff members outnumbered Clinton staff members there 18 to 3.
    In the last battleground, Wisconsin, the Clinton campaign was six days behind Mr. Obama in putting up ads and had only four campaign offices to his 11. Even as Mrs. Clinton clings to her latest firewall -- the March 4 contests -- she is still being outhustled. Last week she told reporters that she "had no idea" that the Texas primary system was "so bizarre" (it's a primary-caucus hybrid), adding that she had "people trying to understand it as we speak." Perhaps her people can borrow the road map from Obama's people. In Vermont, another March 4 contest, The Burlington Free Press reported that there were four Obama offices and no Clinton offices as of five days ago. For what will no doubt be the next firewall after March 4, Pennsylvania on April 22, the Clinton campaign is sufficiently disorganized that it couldn't file a complete slate of delegates by even an extended ballot deadline.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/24/opinio n/24rich.html

  • comment on a post OBAMA CAMPAIGN IN FREEFALL; PANIC PREVAILS over 6 years ago

    This is freaking Hillarious. It is a joke right? It is kind of hard to tell with Hillary supporters, but this one is just too much. Too stinking funny. Gotta link to this one.

    Obama 08

  • not if you are ken star -

    Absolutely right. It was disgusting when it was done to the clintons,

    what is even more disgusting is that clinton and her supporters would put another democrat through that kind of hell

    Shame on you ALL. Hypocrites

  • The Obama link to rezko has been debunked. The was no criminal impropriety. The chicago newspapers have dug into this extensively.
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/1 /29/171056/015/838/445627

    Just because Rezko's trial is moving forward doesnt make it news. Obama has been cleared of any wrongdoing as far as this guy is concerened.

    So Rezko's trial is a non-issue.

    But if you believe OBAMA is so dirty. Why would he not have other connections to a multitude of dirty people? I mean since you guys keep screaming REZKO all the time. Do you think Obama was a dirty politican with only 1 guy? Do you think the clintonista opposition reseach team have not dug through absolutely EVERYTHING including his kindergarten papers?

    Come on people THINK THINK THINK

  • comment on a post Sometimes It's Not About You Barack over 6 years ago

    "If one candidate is trying to scare you and the other one is try get you to think, if one candidate is appealing to your fears and the other one is appealing to your hopes, you better vote for the person who wants you to think and hope."

    Can you believe this? What a pie in the sky idea? Doesn't this person know that "It was no accident that Al queda chose to test the new British PM immediately" and that "terrorists watch our elections closer than we do?"- Hillary Clinton

    I guess BILL CLINTON has a different take  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yZW0m2nWB _M

    Because Hillary used her fearmongering rally to scare up votes in NH. Hey if it worked there, it might work in TX?

    Per Keith Olbermann 2:20 into the clip
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BB4Vvgn_ 4k

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