CBS4 News at Denver reporting: Plot to Kill Obama....

CBS4 at Denver is reporting that four people are under arrest for plotting to kill Senator Obama at the convention. The African American community had been extremely scared of this possibility. It is very difficult to realize that there are really evil folks out there who are committed to do only harm to others. Atleast one of the plotters had links to white supremacists.

As we still bicker amongst ourselves over Obama-Clinton feud, please do not forget the bigger picture. Beyond everything we are humans and that's what bonds us as liberals, progressives, moderates, conservatives, liberatarians, Democrats ....
Please stop this silly infighting and sieze this historic opportunity of building a permanent Democratic majority for a longtime to come.

CBS4 has now learned at least four people are under arrest in connection with a possible plot to kill Barack Obama at his Thursday night acceptance speech in Denver. All are being held on either drug or weapons charges.

CBS4 Investigator Brian Maass reported one of the suspects told authorities they were "going to shoot Obama from a high vantage point using a ... rifle ... sighted at 750 yards."

Law enforcement sources tell Maass that one of the suspects "was directly asked if they had come to Denver to kill Obama. He responded in the affirmative."

Sources told CBS4 police found two high-powered, scoped rifles in the car along with camouflage clothing, walkie-talkies, a bulletproof vest, a spotting scope, licenses in the names of other people and methamphetamine. One of the rifles is listed as stolen from Kansas.

Subsequently authorities went to the Cherry Creek Hotel to contact an associate of Gartrell's. But that man, who was wanted on numerous warrants, jumped out of a sixth floor hotel window. Law enforcement sources say the man broke an ankle in the fall and was captured moments later. Sources say he was wearing a ring with a swastika, and is thought to have ties to white supremacist organizations.

A third man -- an associate of Gartrell and the hotel jumper was also arrested. He told authorities that the two men "planned to kill Barack Obama at his acceptance speech."

That man, along with a woman, are also under arrest.

The Secret Service, FBI, ATF and the joint terrorism task force are all investigating the alleged plot. ination.plot.obama.2.802827.html

Rocky Mountain News is reporting the same: 08/aug/25/police-investigate-possible-pl ot-kill-obama/

[Video Link Updated] Police Press Debrief Link

Tags: Assassination Plot, CBS4, horrible news, obama (all tags)



This is freaking scary..I hope Secret Service

is doing everything to protect Senator Obama.

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 06:13PM | 0 recs
Re: This is freaking scary..I hope Secret Service
Thank you Louisprandtl for writing this diary.
REC  This really scares me and I have been around long enough to know this can happen. Especially to someone like Obama.
by canadian 2008-08-25 08:02PM | 0 recs
Re: This is freaking scary..I hope Secret Service

I wonder who is behind this?

Who funded it?


by reebus 2008-08-25 10:23PM | 0 recs
Re: This is freaking scary..I hope Secret Service

I worked late last night and have not seen the news. This is a horrible turn of events, but not an unexpected one.  I sincerely hope the action that uncovered this works to suppress any similar attempts on the lives of ANY of our political leaders.

Thanks for the diary, so those of us not glued to the news could find out about this.

A thousand plagues to those who have turned this horrible scheme by wrong headed white supremacists into political fodder for attacking either any political leader.

by emsprater 2008-08-26 07:22AM | 0 recs

are some sick, sick people in the world.  feh.

by canadian gal 2008-08-25 06:13PM | 0 recs
This is very scary...I cannot believe even today

such folks would try to create such terror..

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 06:15PM | 0 recs
This is what happens

when you frequent Freerepublic, no quarter, Hillis44, Talk left etc.  Some people truly believe he is that dangerous for this country, and are just sick.

by Brandon 2008-08-25 06:19PM | 0 recs
Re: This is what happens

With the exception of Talk Left, I agree. talk Left has deadenders, but they're just hateful and pathetic, not racist.

by Dale Johnson 007 2008-08-25 06:21PM | 0 recs
Re: This is what happens

Oh, go fuck yourself.  Yeah, TalkLeft commentors want Obama dead.

by Steve M 2008-08-25 06:21PM | 0 recs
Yes, they do

anything to stop the person they refer to as "The One."  You underestimate the hatred on so called progressive sites.

by Brandon 2008-08-25 06:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Yes, they do

I do not know a single person on TalkLeft more hateful than you.

by Steve M 2008-08-25 06:45PM | 0 recs
And another thing

I am tired of being cursed at on this site.  


Your candidate lost you fucking cunt, GO FUCK YOURSELF.  You probably do frequent that fucking hate site you piece of shit.  There, 2 can play that game you pig fucking douche bag.

by Brandon 2008-08-25 06:35PM | 0 recs
Please get a hold of yourself. This is

far more important than is a real threat..

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 06:43PM | 0 recs
Re: Please get a hold of yourself. This is

Unfortunately some cannot comprehend anything more important than themselves.

by TCQuad 2008-08-25 07:33PM | 0 recs
Re: This is what happens

It is absolutely unconscionable to bring the Obama Clinton feud into this.

It is sort of like using a noun, a verb and 9/11 for political purposes.

by AZphilosopher 2008-08-25 08:13PM | 0 recs
Assuming of course the "feud" is real

and serious, as opposed to being a media-driven meme eagerly picked up and propagated by those in the political landscape-- on either side-- to suit their own agendas...

But yes, I agree: it IS unconscionable to bring it into this.

by Swedie 2008-08-26 02:11AM | 0 recs
Anyone read the comments in the

Rocky Mountain News story? There's a nutcase calling herself gloriapoole (says she's a Republican) putting forth the supposition that it's a Hillary plot:

If anybody would be plotting to assassinate Obama it would be Hillary. Right? Look at the motive. There has to be a motive when people plan destruction. Who would gain if Obama was out of the picture? Whose husband had two suspicious deaths soon after he was elected and another one later [Ron Brown I think was his name from Commerce Dept that died in airplane during Clinton admininstration after disagreeing with Bill.] ?

There are a lot of mysterious air plane events this past week and that Spanair flight had 'mechanical problems' according to tonight's news. I would like to know who was on that plane? Any superdelegates or previous hit men of Bill's that would know too much to suit Hillary? Also how about that superdelegate that had been a Bill 'confidante' and then died from a strange attack? If anybody believes that Target hires potential assassins, that is looney!

I think Hillary would try to assassinate him and I also think he must have had a premonition about that. Why else would he publish words to the effect that Joe Biden is ready to lead the nation? VP's only become President if the President dies in office. That remark by Obama's made me wonder. 08/aug/25/police-investigate-possible-pl ot-kill-obama/

There's more of that comment and at least one more by that person along the same lines-- along with the usual "Obama isn't even an American" type of misinformation being spewed "out there".

I'm appalled that similar crap shows up in "progressive land" on a fairly regular basis, from both Hillary haters and Obama haters. It turns out that the nutcases are not exclusively a phenomenon of the right wing. What a disappointment.

by Swedie 2008-08-26 02:27AM | 0 recs
I started reading them, but they are too obnoxious

to even bother a read...

by louisprandtl 2008-08-26 10:10AM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News at Denver reporting: Plot to Kill Ob

It sounds like these people were more serious than most of the so-called terrorists the Bush Administration has apprehended over the last eight years.

by Steve M 2008-08-25 06:22PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

Law enforcement sources tell Maass that one of the suspects "was directly asked if they had come to Denver to kill Obama. He responded in the affirmative."

This ain't a plot. This is a couple of racist drunk bubbas with too much time on their hands who watched "Manchurian Candidate" too many times. Heck, I bet the Secret Service busts a couple of clowns like this every week.

by blueflorida 2008-08-25 06:25PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

You need to look up the definition of a plot.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-25 06:27PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

you need to look up the definition of hyperbole.

This has all the looks of a classic hold my beer incident.

Look, maybe there's more to this, but based on the apparent evidence this was as much of an assassination plot as I am America's Next Top Model.

by blueflorida 2008-08-25 06:44PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

They had guns. They intended to kill him. That is an assassination plot.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-25 06:52PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

They also had fake id's, camo, scopes, vests, and a stolen, therefore un-tracable gun.

This isn't "Bubba, I got an idea," dumbass.

by IowaMike 2008-08-25 08:38PM | 0 recs
You do realize

that if this was just a lark in a Bubba's Night Out, that's much scarier?

Assassination plotters are rare. Drunken, gun-toting young men are not.

So I'm hoping "plot", as opposed to "fad".

by Neef 2008-08-25 07:26PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

It's not a plot??? Thanks for letting us know!!! This is great news for Hillary! Maybe she'll be nominated now if this doesn't help Obama!!!

by Dale Johnson 007 2008-08-25 07:26PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

How in the world did you manage to introduce Hillary Clinton into this??

Anyway, my instincts about how to interpret this look as though they are being proven right:

Federal sources now indicate that the incident may have had more to do with methamphetamine than any kind of assassination plot, however local police have not yet said why they connected the men to the Democratic nominee. Federal officials did say that verbal threats were made against Obama, but were not considered credible.

by blueflorida 2008-08-25 07:35PM | 0 recs
by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 07:49PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

What the devil is WRONG with you people???

by Steve M 2008-08-25 07:40PM | 0 recs
what do you mean


by Brandon 2008-08-25 07:44PM | 0 recs
Re: what do you mean

I am referring to you idiots who don't give a shit about a plot to murder the Democratic nominee because all you can see is a chance to score points against PUMAs.  You are a disgrace.

by Steve M 2008-08-25 07:49PM | 0 recs
Re: what do you mean

I think in this case 'you people' refers to shitheads like yourself who consistently have shown that they believe every last smear in Falwell's "Clinton Chronicles" and also consistently spout anti gay sentiments and anti woman sentiments here in the guise of a 'progressive'.

Yeah, that's the 'you people' that describes you so well.

by emsprater 2008-08-26 07:17AM | 0 recs
Sorry can't be cavalier about this. Every such

threat needs to be seriously.

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 06:28PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry can't be cavalier about this. Every such

And I don't think anyone really can argue with that, but perhaps the over-blowing it into some kind of James Bond type deal is a bit extreme? Maybe it was just a couple of gun "enthusiasts" getting drunk and deciding to drive to Denver. Or it could be as bad as it has been painted, but I really do not trust police press releases for real detail or accuracy. Could there be a bit of dramatic license in the story? I don't know, but neither does anyone else posting here. I am not sure why you are attacking the other poster over this.

by zerosumgame 2008-08-25 08:53PM | 0 recs
Excuse me? Which poster did I attack?

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 09:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Excuse me? read your posts above?

you were bemoaning the very idea that someone might have different perspective and how horrible that person must be. Sounds like an attack to me. shrug

by zerosumgame 2008-08-25 09:38PM | 0 recs
What are you talking about? Please provide
a link and we'll go from there.
I'm "bemoaning because somebody has a different opinion and he/she might be horrible?"..
by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 10:51PM | 0 recs
Re: What are you talking about? Please provide

unhide my comments and then I will talk to you again. going along with the abusers does not make your case. In fact that only high-lights how you attack other posters. you allow lies to remain on the board and hide the ones you are scared of.

by zerosumgame 2008-08-26 09:33AM | 0 recs
Look I didn't hide/troll rate your comments.

I don't operate that way. There is no case to make. I didn't attack any poster (other than telling one commenter to be civil while making his point in a different diary who made a really nasty reference to Obama). I don't attack any poster unless they are being abusive nor do I have time to play silly games. I think you're compeletely mistaken in this matter. So I don't know who or what pulled your chain, please take it to that poster. Thank you.

by louisprandtl 2008-08-26 10:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Look I didn't hide/troll rate your comments.

yet the lie is still there and my reasonable posts are hidden. You tacitly accept that and you expect me to give a crap about your false protestations?look at your reply to spiff and how eagerly you agree with that troll. if you cannot see it then you really are as dishonest as he is.

by zerosumgame 2008-08-26 05:31PM | 0 recs
Now you're being foolish...

Read his post carefully and see the threads whose comments he was talking about.

I've never attacked you, or your friends. In fact Iremember uprating you several times during primary and later, despite my better judgement. If you want to pick a fight, please find a shadow.

I wish you good luck. Take care of yourself..

by louisprandtl 2008-08-26 05:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry can't be cavalier about this. Every such

but I really do not trust police press releases for real detail or accuracy

Heh...But you will believe all the shit that's posted by anti-Obama websites...Go figure...

by hootie4170 2008-08-25 09:25PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry can't be cavalier about this. Every such

keep on lying

by zerosumgame 2008-08-25 09:34PM | 0 recs
Re: Sorry can't be cavalier about this. Every such

Where's your sockpuppet?  I mean brother?

by hootie4170 2008-08-25 09:45PM | 0 recs
Really, just a matter of opinion?

Yup just a couple of harmless gun enthusiasts with high powered scopes, a stash of meth, white supremecist tattoos and felony records who jump out of four-story hotel windows when they're apprehended in a suburb of Denver while our party declares the first ever african american nominee for president.  I'm sure some might misconstrue that as intent to commit a violent act, but I suppose they would only be the folks who are paying attention and care.

by Tenafly Viper 2008-08-26 12:43AM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News: Plot to Kill Obama....

Thanks. I was worried this might help Obama!!! But since you downplayed it effectively in this comment, I've changed my mind. You're doing god's work here!

by Dale Johnson 007 2008-08-25 07:28PM | 0 recs
When psychos are in echo chambers of hate

Like a clan meeting, or on a racist hateful forum in the guise of a democratic website, people that are not balanced get there insanity bolstered by constantly being around other pathetic people who hate as well.  

by Brandon 2008-08-25 06:53PM | 0 recs
Re: When psychos are in echo chambers of hate

And what of your hate toward the Clintons or PUMA?  Is it not the same?  You tend to go off the deep end more than a usual hater.

by hootie4170 2008-08-25 09:27PM | 0 recs
Re: When psychos are in echo chambers of hate

Clinton and the PUMAs deserve it, though.

by reebus 2008-08-25 11:29PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News at Denver reporting: Plot to Kill Ob

What douchebags. A threat to kill the Democratic candidate and some people can't get past the hate.

Pathetic display, you know who you are.

by spacemanspiff 2008-08-25 07:08PM | 0 recs
I'm sorry that every diary and thread seem to

be degenerating to the same...

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 07:10PM | 0 recs
Too bad there isn't a forum like

MyDD but with moderators who actually did anything.....

by chrisblask 2008-08-25 07:17PM | 0 recs
Chris, start one!

by Dumbo 2008-08-25 08:41PM | 0 recs
Re: Chris, start one!

No kidding, we need a place where the PUMA hacks don't run wild.

by reebus 2008-08-25 10:25PM | 0 recs
i assure you...

rebus and dumbo shall not be invited.

by canadian gal 2008-08-25 10:39PM | 0 recs

I assure YOU that YOU won't be invited!

Harrumph!  Harrumph!

The noive...

by Dumbo 2008-08-25 11:10PM | 0 recs
Re: Well!

CG the HR troll and undercover PUMA wants her own blog.

How special.

by reebus 2008-08-25 11:32PM | 0 recs
No offense, Reebus,

but do I know you?

by Dumbo 2008-08-25 11:35PM | 0 recs
Re: i assure you...
Canadian Gal you are a legend in your own mind.
You give Canadians a bad name with your pompous attitude.
by canadian 2008-08-26 03:03AM | 0 recs
Nazi Methheads with stolen rifles


by Lefty Coaster 2008-08-25 07:15PM | 0 recs
Re: Nazi Methheads with stolen rifles

Where's Indiana Jones when you need him.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-25 07:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Nazi Methheads with stolen rifles

A meatball can kill you as dead as Einstein. they had the weapons, the scopes, the camo and the walkie talkies.

by Christy1947 2008-08-25 07:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Nazi Methheads with stolen rifles

AKA Republicans/PUMAs

by Hill4Life 2008-08-25 08:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Nazi Methheads with stolen rifles

so democrats that do not support obama want him dead? that is a deplorable statement, and this is not something to use in that manner. how cheap and disgusting.

by owl06 2008-08-25 09:07PM | 0 recs
Well that's four

PUMA's off the street.

Now there are only 20 left out there.

by Tatan 2008-08-25 07:24PM | 0 recs
The question also is

  whether they were isolated conspirators or were they part of a bigger conspiracy involving the republican neo-con movement which stands to lose an awful lot when Barack Obama is elected President?

by pollbuster 2008-08-25 07:49PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News at Denver reporting:

The comments here have really taken a turn for the worse.  sigh.  I'm just glad Obama is safe.

by Skaje 2008-08-25 07:52PM | 0 recs
I'm terribly sorry that it did...

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 08:01PM | 0 recs
What we need
to always remember is that whenever progressive forces are on the verge of a victory, they will always send in the most reactionary forces to attempt to reverse it.
by pollbuster 2008-08-25 07:52PM | 0 recs
Follow the money

Don't just dismiss them as nutballs who came up with this over the 6th beer.  That's just what a larger plot would want the police to do. After all the tragedies (assassinations, plane crashes, etc) that have struck Democratic politicians since 1963, I wouldn't put anything past the enemies of democracy and change.

Follow the money to find the potential larger plot:
where did they get the guns?
where did they get the money for the guns?  
are they childhood friends, or how did they meet?  
did they have hotel reservations, and if so, whose credit card was used?  
what - or who - else can be linked that credit card?  
who paid for the car they were driving, and where did it come from?
who do they work for?  
who do they live with?
who pays for wherever they live?
cell phone history?
home phone history?
internet usage?

There's a ton of places to look.  There could be so much more to this than just drunk wackos.

by Bear83 2008-08-25 08:00PM | 0 recs
There is press debriefing at 10 am by US Attorney

..hopefully we'll know more..

by louisprandtl 2008-08-25 08:13PM | 0 recs
The Obama family

has an unimaginable amount of courage, starting with Barack and Michelle. They know full well the risks they're taking, and understand completely what the worst scenarios could be. But they forge ahead, their fears and anxieties overcome by their unwavering hope in the character of the American people.

When you stop and think about it, it's very Barack's whole campaign is a symbol of hope over fear, of faith over despair.

I'm humbled every time I think of it.

by BobzCat 2008-08-25 08:05PM | 0 recs
Re: The Obama family

Really well said.

by wasder 2008-08-25 08:14PM | 0 recs
This is really scary for me.

I hope, hope that nothing happens to Obama.  Our nation does not need any more grief.

by Jenai 2008-08-25 08:15PM | 0 recs
The stadium

When they announced the plans, I wrote that this was a high-risk, hard-to-control situation, precisely because of racists and the difficulty in controlling seating and line of sight with lots of advance time for planning.  We've had real and very devastating  problems with this, and I don't think people on his team are thinking this out.  

by Andrys 2008-08-26 01:32AM | 0 recs
Plot to Kill Obama

Please stop this silly infighting...

I think we have turned a corner on this blog and elsewhere. The hard feelings are melting away now that the convention is finally putting an end to the primary season. The speeches by Teddy and Michelle had to have softened the hardest of hearts. And this neocon threat to rob America of its rightful future by assassination should bind all together to thwart the darkness they represent.

For my part, I will no longer "debate" with anyone who attacks Obama or Hillary, but rather assume they are McTrolls trying sow hatred and HR them on sight.

by Obama44 2008-08-25 08:20PM | 0 recs
If we are so damn dumb

to be under-concerned at this moment that all we can do is either downplay this, or find a reason to attack each other, no wonder we always lose.

We put way too damn much energy attacking each other. And I am no angel in this.

But if some well armed wack jobs were there to kill Clinton, or hell Bush, I would hope we would all have enough sense to take it seriously until we get the whole picture.

No one deserves what these worthless evil pieces of shit wanted to do.

by IowaMike 2008-08-25 08:44PM | 0 recs
White Supremacists.... Hmmmm...


by Hill4Life 2008-08-25 08:48PM | 0 recs

TexasDarling?  Alegre?  Catfish2?

by HardWorkingWhitePerson 2008-08-25 08:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh.

You are comparing bloggers you dislike to people who are going after the Democratic nominee with a gun?  And this shit gets uprated?

by Steve M 2008-08-25 08:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh.

yeah - but checked who uprated it.  not surprising - and getting a lot of points in the past few days im sure.

by canadian gal 2008-08-25 09:08PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh.

No offense CG, but anyone hanging out at NoQuarter and Hillis44, and linking to both blogs is racist.  Have you been to either lately?  Are you saying you suppport the discussions on both sites?  I'm actually shocked that you would defend them.  I've been liking you more and more lately, but never thought you'd stand up for people associated with racist sites.

by HardWorkingWhitePerson 2008-08-25 09:14PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh.

i dont go to these sites.  however - i do not take assassination lightly.  many of the comments in this thread are a disgrace to democrats largely pushed by a group of clearl gop trolls meant to piss off both obama and clinton fans alike.

by canadian gal 2008-08-25 10:12PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh.

fuck you. this is not something to make light of, and being a friend of alegre, I can tell you that she is in no way racist. prove it or shut the fuck off. fuck off you piece of shit.

by owl06 2008-08-25 09:02PM | 0 recs
Re: Heh.

Hey, this is a family site.  No need for potty language around here.

That said, alegre has said some pretty racist stuff on her blog, and at Daily Kos before her tantrum "boycott".  She also permits racists to post and blog at her site, and links to racist sites like NoQuarter, TexasDarling, etc.  Racism has no place on this site, and makes anyone defending her suspect.

by HardWorkingWhitePerson 2008-08-25 09:10PM | 0 recs
I was worried about this

as soon as they announced he would do the acceptance speech at Ivesco Field.  Yup, too many movies like Parallax View and Manchurian Candidate.  I hope the Secret Service isn't slacking this week.

750 yards is a difficult shot.  That would require an experienced sharpshooter.

by Dumbo 2008-08-25 08:54PM | 0 recs
Re: I was worried about this

Do we know the stage setup already? Are they taking measures to block the view from the interstate? Will there be bulletproof barriers?

It is definitely a concern. Even inside the stadium, it is a concern. When you think about it, it's absolutely amazing that he goes out there every day and puts on that brave face. He refuses to be scared, and that's more than I would be able to do.

Hey, assholes. You want a reason to support Obama? Proof of his character? This is it. He knows the danger. He knows the constant risk. But he's out there every day, and he never lets you see him sweat. Never mentions it.

by vcalzone 2008-08-26 01:46AM | 0 recs

this is disgusting. it cannot be treated as just talk.. those people need to be monitored carefully.

by owl06 2008-08-25 09:04PM | 0 recs
Re: deporable

No, it can't, and I can't imagine why anyone here would do so. It's one thing to think that he's playing a race card, it's quite another to pretend that white supremacists and delusional "Christians" aren't on their very own message boards right now talking about how something should be done.

This is not a joke. This is not a minor concern. You don't have to like Obama. Just hope he doesn't get murdered because of the color of his skin and/or political leanings.

by vcalzone 2008-08-26 01:49AM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News at Denver reporting: Plot to Kill Ob

I find it curious the cable networks haven't mentioned this arrest, or did I just miss it?

by libertyleft 2008-08-25 09:18PM | 0 recs
Re: CBS4 News at Denver reporting: Plot to Kill Ob

Thanks for the HR, you just made the list...

by hootie4170 2008-08-25 09:34PM | 0 recs

Try not posting personal attacks.

by libertyleft 2008-08-25 10:10PM | 0 recs

Ah OK, we should just let people sow division among Democrats.  I'm glad you're such a defender of such troll activity.  Atleast I know where you stand now.

by hootie4170 2008-08-25 10:47PM | 0 recs

Personal attacks don't heal any wounds, and are pretty much exactly what trolls want.  Don't go feeding them anymore.

by libertyleft 2008-08-26 01:06AM | 0 recs
Well, its great to see that a

possible death threat on anyone, let alone our potential President, really brings us together.

We deserve to have McSame win if this is how we really are.

by IowaMike 2008-08-25 09:23PM | 0 recs
Re: Well, its great to see that a

This isn't how we really are. This is how a few incredibly loud, opinionated members our community are. Nobody deserves what McCain would inflict on our country because of the behavior of bloggers.

As for all you arguing up the thread, did you happen to see the Obama daughters at the end of the convention tonight? Somebody out there wanted to FUCKING ORPHAN THEM. SO SHUT THE FUCK UP.

by Cincinnatus 2008-08-26 12:28AM | 0 recs
Probably another button salesman

I don't think it would be possible to kill to a Presidential candidate in this day and age.  One of the safest place in the world is inside the Pepsi Center.

This either has to be a crackpot rumor or a mistake like the button salesman.

by RichardFlatts 2008-08-26 04:42AM | 0 recs

Racism, violence, stupidity, and meth is a very toxic combination.

We must hope that any would be assassins are no more organized and professional than these folks. I fear there are many white supremacists and neo-Nazis who are larger threats.  

Fortunately, I do have a very high level of confidence in the Secret Service.

by Trond Jacobsen 2008-08-26 05:07AM | 0 recs


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