Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

Ohio is being bombarded with another Obama attack on Hillary.  I suspect he will do this for the remaining states Primaries as well, like he did with Universal Health Care for all mailer to Californians.  This is a mass mailer claiming Hillary said "NAFTA was a boon for our economy".  As you will see, and also note, Hillary never claimed to be pro NAFTA and Hillary has been campaigning for fair trade and was one of the very first to advise she would close the Corporate Loop Holes that are actually paying and incentive to shipping American jobs overseaas, but the paper that Obama is using for a quote clearly states it was their wording and haven't even found a quote from Hillary to suggest it.

Today, Sen. Obama will attack Hillary on NAFTA:

"You know, in the years after her husband signed NAFTA, Senator Clinton would go around talking about how great it was and how many benefits it would bring."-Obama

Sen. Obama and his campaign have consistently fabricated quotes to support this claim. Recently he falsely claimed that Hillary said that NAFTA was a "boon" to the economy. Now, Obama is resting his argument on a single paraphrase from an article written twelve years ago.

"We do not have a direct quote indicating her campaign told us she thought it was good for the economy at that time."-Newsday

"Obama's use of the citation in this way does strike us as misleading. The quote marks make it look as if Hillary said "boon," not us. It's an example of the kind of slim reeds campaigns use to try to win an office".-Newsday

Meanwhile, based on his positions in Illinois and the United States Senate, the National Journal concluded that Sen. Obama was "the most likely presidential candidate to support further trade liberalization." Sen. Obama opposed an amendment that would have prevented the weakening of laws that protect against unfair trade practices. (Hillary supported the amendment.) And Senator Obama's vote was a deciding vote, as there were exactly 60 Nays to reject the amendment.  

"To prohibit weakening any law that provides safeguards from unfair foreign trade practices."
Obama (D-IL), Nay
Clinton (D-NY), Yea

Sen. Obama also supports fast track authority.

http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/ro ll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?con gress=109&session=1&vote=00232

Sen. Obama also misrepresents Hillary's position on trade moving forward:

"Now that she’s running for President, she says we need a time-out on trade. No one knows when this time-out will end. Maybe after the election"-Obama.

Hillary has called for a timeout on trade agreements in the first several months of her presidency to provide an opportunity to systematically review every trade agreement to ensure that it is delivering benefits to American workers." The time-out will begin when she becomes president. This is consistent with legislation she introduced in the Senate that would require study of the impact of trade agreements. She has also pledged to double the enforcement staff at the office of the United States Trade Representative and expand the Trade Adjustment Assistance program so that workers negatively affected by the global economy get the help they need.

And Hillary was the first to be discussing these law changes, as even Whoopi admitted finding out when she announced her changed vote to Hillary on the air of The View.

As always, it is better to acknowledge ones own record and listen to what they actually do say, not what someone is claiming for another.  So, I leave you with these final words that Senator Obama spoke the day before the New Hampshire Primary, after he proudly declared he did support Free Trade and that he supported adding Peru to the Free Trade Agreement.

Senator Obama:  "I believe in the Free Market.  I believe in Capitalism.  I believe in Free Trade.  I am not worried about us being able to compete anywhere on earth with American workers"-Obama. Too bad, at least Hillary does.
VIDEO of Obama's comments
VIDEOSenator Obama

Tags: Attacks, Barack Obama, Democratic, free trade, Hillary Clinton, NAFTA, policy, president, video (all tags)



Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2 /16/142442/465

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

Obama does support Fast Track authority.  I quote:

On Fast Track authority, which requires Congress to vote yes or no and without amendments on pending trade deals, Obama said in a 2004 questionnaire that he opposes Fast Track authority "because it is a usurpation of Congress' role to ensure that negotiated trade agreements serve the best interests of our country, including protection of the environment, worker rights and human rights."

In remarks to the Detroit Economic Club in May, Obama said: "I plan to be president, so I actually want Fast Track. But I'm willing to constrain myself in Fast Track to make sure that we've got strong labor and environmental protections."

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:38PM | 0 recs
Not for Bush

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Not for Bush

But he still supports Fast Track authority.  and his voting record on trade in the us senate reveals he supports reckless trade policies.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:41PM | 0 recs
Hillary supported NAFTA

and it devastated Ohio, and Obama's going to bash her campaign over the head with that for the next two weeks.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary supported NAFTA

she did not support NAFTA.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary supported NAFTA

Pu-lease.  She definitely did and is trying to run away from it now.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/2 /16/142442/465

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:54PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary supported NAFTA

No, she did not.  You are misinformed.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:56PM | 0 recs
he's bought into 'the clintons'

she's held acceptable for everything that happened in Bill's administration when she had no choice but to keep silent, they way first-ladies in favor of abortion must keep silent. That's the media conflating the two, and erasing her own voice, and it leads to these kinds of misunderstandings.  So much so it's part of received wisdom now,no hope of eradicating it, unless and until she's the nom, when some will listen to her, perhaps for the first time. If he's the nom his voting record will be checked against his rhetoric, and he will have to explain himself.  

by anna shane 2008-02-17 01:38PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary supported NAFTA

LOL!  Using DailyKOS as an information source is about as good as using Faux News.

by Sensible 2008-02-17 02:42PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary supported NAFTA

Obama is just practicing the same GOP attack rhetoric and ugly caculated politics of old. Don't mind him or them.

For those who spew this garbage, forgetting that we are all on the same side and that Hillary has been a strong and great asset in the democratic party, there is no reasoning. Obama is spreading Hillary hate and represents division in the party like I have never seen before.

I believe in the voters of OH, and TX and PA so see through the grand speech to the angry, political assassin who gives them.

by seattlegonz 2008-02-17 12:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary supported NAFTA

Obama also lied on the campaign trail and claimed in Iowa that Edwards supported NAFTA--a charge that could not be further from the truth. You can see the video here.

http://www.youtube.com/swf/l.swf?video_i d=8Fb3eulMVoc&rel=1&eurl=&iu rl=http%3A//i.ytimg.com/vi/8Fb3eulMVoc/d efault.jpg&t=OEgsToPDskIGRyfL6QOED0n PRMJyMTnD&amp=

It was just one of the reasons why I found it impossible to jump aboard the Obama bandwagon after Edwards dropped out of the race.

by Inky 2008-02-17 01:20PM | 0 recs
Re: Hillary supported NAFTA

Hillary put an end to the "we are all on the same side" a while ago and her attacks have been as sharp as Obama's.

by JDF 2008-02-17 03:11PM | 0 recs
Re: only a few comments and you are already

"and has been for year."

I wonder if that was a typo or a freudian slip.

by JDF 2008-02-17 03:13PM | 0 recs
So you agree that she was

for NAFTA at the time?

"In fact Clinton said that at the time, "they" (I guess meaning she Bill, Al Gore and others) thought that NAFTA would be good for the economy"

You Hillbots don't even know what you are saying.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 11:46PM | 0 recs
Still not consistent...

Now yes, I would say Obama's better on trade issues than Bush. But still, why should he have fast track authority to pass trade agreements? Shouldn't Congress have a chance to amend and improve trade deals that may be lacking in labor and environmental standards?

by atdleft 2008-02-17 12:42PM | 0 recs
That won't be necessary

with Obama as President

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:46PM | 0 recs
Re: That won't be necessary

Obama voted against prohibiting any laws that would compromise safeguards against unfair trade practices.  Perhaps we should ban fast track if obama is elected, for his record on trade is very problematic.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:47PM | 0 recs
It's better than

Hillary "NAFTA" Clinton

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:48PM | 0 recs
Re: It's better than

Hillary did not support NAFTA.  In fact, she believes NAFTA should be renegotiated.  And her voting records on trade is stronger than that of Obama.  

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:50PM | 0 recs
Keep telling yourself that but

Hillary "DLC" Clinton did support NAFTA.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:55PM | 0 recs
Re: Keep telling yourself that but

No, she did not.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:56PM | 0 recs
Not buying it, too bad she made

all those public statements in support of it after it was passed.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Not buying it, too bad she made

You are wrong.

Hillary Clinton did not support NAFTA.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 01:00PM | 0 recs
Tell that to someone a bit

more gullible.  Good luck defending one of the DLC's architects.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Tell that to someone a bit

According to her aides and her biographers, she did not support NAFTA.  In fact, she referred to NAFTA as "Republican economics."  

And notice that her voting record on trade is stronger than that of the candidate you mindlessly support.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 01:10PM | 0 recs
Just like Hillary didn't support the war


by NeuvoLiberal 2008-02-18 07:45AM | 0 recs
Re: Keep telling yourself that but

You do realize that Obama's chief economic adviser is also the chief economist for the DLC, don't you?

by Inky 2008-02-17 01:23PM | 0 recs
Try again, buckaroo...

Please check the facts...

http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/ hillary-clinton-on-nafta/

Before you go any further in repeating talking points that we've already debunked.

by atdleft 2008-02-17 01:01PM | 0 recs
Re: It's better than

Somebody's pants are on fire.

Yours and your candidate's.

More here / and read the Carl Bernstein quote:
http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/02/17/ hillary-clinton-on-nafta/

by susanhu 2008-02-17 01:12PM | 0 recs

his nose is growing.  This way he'll never be a real live boy.  too bad.  

by anna shane 2008-02-17 01:43PM | 0 recs
Oh my god

are you that trusting? That blind? Will you think that AN YTHING that Obama does is OK because HE says so? Sounds more like the bush supporters everyday.


by kevin22262 2008-02-17 01:08PM | 0 recs
Holy god

this idea that he's some sort of saviour is what scares me the most about the idea of an Obama presidency.  Of course we'll need to worry about fast track with President Obama.  We'll need to worry about all the same stuff with President Obama.  He's going to need to be pressured from the left to do the right thing every day he's in office.  My great fear is that the left will figure they've got a champion in office and go to sleep for eight years - like they did during the Clinton presidency.  We don't need another one of those.

Obama is a corporate, centrist Dem, just like Hillary.  Good for him. Good for her.   It's up to us to move whoever gets elected to the side of the American worker.  It will be a full time job.

by eRobin 2008-02-19 03:18PM | 0 recs
Re: Still not consistent...

Obama did vote against an amendment that would prohibition weakening any law that provides safeguards from unfair foreign trade practices.  This bespeaks a predilection for increased trade liberalization.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Not for Bush

Are you out of your mind??

While saying "Not for Bush" is music to the ear of the democrats, the fact remains that you either endorse 'fast track authority' or you do not.  You cannot magically write, "this would not apply if Bush is the President"!! [Bush and the SCOTUS have tried the opposite, however.]

Precedents means something.  Laws, by definition, should apply equally to all, and that all includes the authority of a President.  

by ghost 2 2008-02-17 02:06PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

Gee, more self imposed remarks by Sirota where he never provided even one link for verification.

by LindaSFNM 2008-02-17 02:47PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:46PM | 0 recs
It is so sad

that dems don't recognize who the real progressive is in this race.  

It all comes down to a simple comparison for me- Obama worked UHC, so did Hillary-  Obama's was pretty much a sell out that he helped orchestrate with the insurance industry, Hillary's was single payer that the insurance industry spent countless millions to vilify.  She is still here, advocating along the same progressive lines.  Obama is also still here, preparing to sell us all out with 'compromise'.

by linc 2008-02-17 12:53PM | 0 recs

That Hillarycare fiasco set universal healthcare back over a decade because of how badly they handled it.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 12:56PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

Only a Republican would refer to universal health care as "Hillary Care."

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 12:59PM | 0 recs
Not all UHC,

just Hillary's 1.0 version that burned us all.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re: Not all UHC,

Hillary clinton is the reason why we are debating universal health care in 2008.  indeed, she is the only presidential candidate who offers universal health care for all americans.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 01:03PM | 0 recs
Wow, you certainly have talent...

For rewriting history. So were you there when the insurance industry, Richard Mellon Scaife, and the entire rest of the "vast right wing conspiracy" spent millions to kill universal health care in 1994? Probably not, otherwise you would have noticed how Obama's attacks on Hillary's health care plan today eerily resemble the insurance industry backed "Harry & Louise" ads from 1994.

And that's just it. Hillary not only survived after that... She and Bill Clinton got SCHIP passed in 1997, ensuring health care for 6 million kids. As President, Bill Clinton worked for legislation to make health insurance more "portable", meaning health care was no longer so tied down to one's job as it used to be. Oh, and as Senator Hillary got health care for all our National Guard reservists that previously didn't have any.

But hey, go ahead and keep rewriting history. You won't know what hit you when the same "vast right wing conspiracy" attacks Obama.

by atdleft 2008-02-17 01:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Universal Health Care

I think she was ahead of her time.

by jerseygirl 2008-02-17 02:33PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

Well, Hillary was the only one to continue working for health care that was possible: veterans, SCHIP, FMLA, first responder care.

And, actually, it's Obama's unwillingness to fight for universal health insurance and his use of republican and special interest slander and sleaze that is setting health care back. If we elect Hillary universal health care has a chance, elect Obama and it's already been abandoned.

by seattlegonz 2008-02-17 01:31PM | 0 recs
Re: Whatever

why is it a setback over a decade?

Before she took it on, no one pick up the issue and fight for it.
After she tried, she managed to get healthcare for children.
i believe we better off after she fight for it.

How can you call it a setback, when the effort produced some concrete result.  

If you don't have any mistake, it means you never try.

by JoeySky18 2008-02-17 01:34PM | 0 recs
Re: There is a huge difference

but only hillary offers universal health care.  and only hillary's plan will decrease the price of health care for all.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 01:43PM | 0 recs
Re: There is a huge difference

I can see the ads too. Because Obama is already sending them out.

by OrangeFur 2008-02-17 01:45PM | 0 recs
by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 01:26PM | 0 recs
Re: So lets see

It is, for records do in fact matter.

Obama is incapable of securing safeguards against unfair trading practices.

by truthteller2007 2008-02-17 01:42PM | 0 recs
Even when the record is so obvious

Obama supporters still refuse to accept that Obama attacking point is inaccurate.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/14 /did-hillary-clinton-reall_n_86674.html

See no evil.  Hear no evil.

by JoeySky18 2008-02-17 01:29PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

and the green collor job that he lifted off Clinton plan and put it into his

by JoeySky18 2008-02-17 01:30PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

obama's 1996 position was a handgun ban. that's right- handguns would be illegal. his position "evolved", of course ;-)

by campskunk 2008-02-17 01:46PM | 0 recs
Not as bad as Hillary

voting for the War.

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 11:49PM | 0 recs
Re: Yet again

Just keep reapeating your lies and smears.  And nothing shows your claims.  But everything in this diary shows how false the attacks are

by LindaSFNM 2008-02-17 03:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"

That clip is out of context.  If you look back at a 2004 debate Obama is clear on negotiating trade agreements for workers and the environment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_OzpVPWi TY&feature=related

Fact is Clinton and Obama are so close it isn't worth thinking about.  We need to examine who can lead, and who will be a lightening rod that stops us from going forward.  Obama has the leadership quality that will make things happen.  She does not.  I hope WI goes double digits for Obama and puts this one away.  

by lynnc 2008-02-17 07:37PM | 0 recs

How is that clip out of context. LOL  

Are you actually trying to claim because once he claimed something in a debate years ago, he couldn't possibly mean what he says today?  Even if his votes support what he says?

...Kinda' like when he used to say he supported Single Payer Health and now doesn't even want to give Universal Health Care....worse, attacks and uses the old Republican smear to Hillarys 1993 Universal Health Care, the "Harry and Louise" ads.  Or do you just want to say, "No, he wouldn't do that, he says he will conduct a different kind of campaign".  BUT HE DOES DO THAT.  Just like HE SAID THAT.

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02 01/obama-does-harry-and-louise-again?s cp=4-b&sq=Paul+Krugman&st=nyt

by LindaSFNM 2008-02-17 07:56PM | 0 recs

Yeah the clip is short and pulled out to make what point?  He believes in Markets?  Norwegians believe in free markets, they just have universal coverage.  I want single payer where everyone is covered.  Clinton offers some scheme to cover everyone, and Obama says he'll cover everyone too.  They have both compromised.  Anything beyond that is slicing and dicing non-differences.  Fact is that the insurance companies are BIG money and we won't get Norway or Canada and that disappoints me, but to say Obama is worse than Clinton on Health Plan is pointless--unless you want to scare people into voting for Clinton.  Overall, their differences on policy are squat.

by lynnc 2008-02-17 08:42PM | 0 recs
You must be kidding.

You're going to sit here and spin that.  Are you ignoring that he is attacking Hillary on claims and with claims that Hillary never said, but you want to discount what he actually did.  LOL

by LindaSFNM 2008-02-18 04:56AM | 0 recs
Re: You must be kidding.

I never said he didn't go negative and maybe went over the edge.  We were talking about the Free Trade clip that taken out of context, like the more recent blast from the right that Obama's wife isn't proud of her country.  It is all stupid.  What seems to be positive in all this is that negativity is not selling as well as in earlier primaries.  If it doesn't work, maybe it will stop -- from BOTH sides.

'nuf said since he got double digits in WI and this thing is basically over.  Happily McCain looks like a negative fear peddler compared to Obama.  

by lynnc 2008-02-20 04:41PM | 0 recs
Here's a blast

from the not too distant past......

Edwards Campaign to Make Hay of Hillary's NAFTA Answer
 November 16, 2007

The Edwards campaign just announced a 1:30 conference call to discuss what it says was Hillary Clinton's "dismissively 'laughing off' questions on NAFTA in last night's debate."

Last night, Joe Trippi, a senior aide to Edwards, previewed that argument to reporters.

"People have been crippled by NAFTA," he said in the spin room last night after the debate. "Whole towns have been devastated by plants moving. And she had that moment when she just laughed--laughed it off and said I don't remember anything about that except charts and figures. Well those are human beings and towns and a lot of them are in Iowa."

He added, "Laughing it off, rolling your eyes and saying I don't remember except for charts and figures and all that--I think that is really going to come back and hurt her."

Well, it sure didn't seem to help Edwards at any rate.

by Kobi 2008-02-17 08:19PM | 0 recs
His Health Care Plan is universal

If you keep saying otherwise on this site, you will be SUED for defamation!

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 11:48PM | 0 recs
She can't

because it is the truth, and she'd have to contradict her husband (you know, the one who made her).

by prince georges for obama 2008-02-17 11:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"
Tell ya what...Chances are the economy will be mentioned at this week's debate.Let's see what happens. It strikes me that both sides (supporters)are so sure when BOTH campaigns are fluid.
I am fairly positive however, the major Unions now endorsing Obama are confident in his commitment to workers rights before they gave him the embrace.
by nogo war 2008-02-18 04:33AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama: "I Believe In Free Trade"
Pretty good recent article here
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic le?AID=/20080217/NEWS07/802170640
by nogo war 2008-02-18 04:38AM | 0 recs
This is true

Obama does believe in free trade. Of course, Clinton does too. They've both pretty much neoliberals on trade.

by Korha 2008-02-18 05:53AM | 0 recs


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