Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

I am asking Sherrod Brown to leave the Senate Race and to keep his Congressional Seat that he knows he has a good chance in retaining.

Rep. Brown, we are after all trying to GAIN seats, not lose them.  And I feel your dirty tricks in trying to strong arm your opponent in the Primary to leave the race is very bad for the party.  You are alienating voters, not bringing them in.

From before you entered the race, 2 months after announcing that you would NOT run for the Senate, you started trying to push out Paul Hackett by claiming you solved the grassroots support problem.  Then days later, it was that Paul Hackett should leave the Senate Race.

Apparently you believe the only chance you have in winning the Primary is if you are the ONLY candidate running.  Because now you have stepped up the attacks for Paul Hackett to leave the Senate race by enlisting more Congressman to ask him to leave and run for the House.

I am asking you to stop this now.  You are hurting our party by these games and IF you do not support the efforts in getting your Inside the Beltway friends to pressure Paul Hackett in to leaving the Senate Race, you will hold a Press Conference stating that.

So Sherrod Brown, it is now up to you.  Either you feel your only chance to win the Democratic Primary is if you are the only candidate on the ballot, or you release a statement asking your fellow Reps and Washington Insiders, regardless of their enthusiasm for you, that you embrace a full, open and democratic Primary wanting every candidate who wishes to run, to run.

I anxiously await your response.

Tags: Dirty Tricks, Paul Hackett, pressure, Senate, Sherrod Brown, Washington Insiders (all tags)

Comments

74 Comments

Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

I may have misheard the story on NPR this morning while getting ready.  It may have been on the pressure Hackett is getting to step back into the OH 02 race instead of him actually doing it...I certainly am not in any secret cabal against Hackett. I've sent his campaign money but as an OH 02 constituent I admittedly would be happy if he did return to run for the 02 because he is the only chance to rid us of Schmidt.

by carsick 2006-02-13 06:54AM | 0 recs
by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 07:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

That sounds like a good plan to me. If the Democratic apparatchiks want Hackett to step aside for Brown, it is even more reason to support Hackett. I'm sick and tired of brokered Democratic primaries.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-02-13 07:20AM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

Umm... guys... please be realistic.  Hackett has a PATHETIC 200k cash on hand after last quarter.  That isn't enough money to run in one media market for the primary.  Hackett got himself into this position with terrible fundraising.  $200k is alright for one quarter for a targeted Congressional but absolutely an unacceptable cash on hand number for a Senate candidate.  Sherrod has 2.37 COH after last quarter...

Can we for once be realistic and stop telling someone with that kind of money to make way for someone who (as of right now) could not run even a few days of TV statewide.  If Hackett wants the nod he should get to work and earn it.

by midwestdemocrat 2006-02-13 07:31AM | 0 recs
He's on whose side?
It's so easy to win in Ohio for a democrat that perhaps you think a candidate should forego raising money at all or taking on any debt to accomplish the goal.
Generally parties try to avoid a primary if possible.  They almost always have so they can avoid spending and hurting their eventual candidate.
Perhaps you prefer a bloodied and broke candidate so you can later blame Ohio voters for not voting in appropriate numbers to get your preffered candidate elected.
Me? I just want to see more democrats in the House and Senate.
by carsick 2006-02-13 08:16AM | 0 recs
Let the voters decide?

That's awful democratic of you. Are you sure you're a Democrat? Democrats are supposed to just STFU and let Rahm Emanuel and Chuck Schumer decide who they are going to vote for in the general election.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-02-13 11:10AM | 0 recs
Re: He's on whose side?

Sometimes primarys are good... They helped Kerry stay ahead in polls up till August.

by Liberal 2006-02-13 03:50PM | 0 recs
Re: He's on whose side?

So if Sherrod gets the nomination (even if it is a contested primary) will you vote for him against DeWine?

by adamterando 2006-02-13 05:47PM | 0 recs
Sherrod should stay in

I hope Sherrod stays in, because his campaign is the best thing to ever happen to the Ohio blogosphere.

For example, look what some Ohio bloggers have already written today:

OH-02: MUST READ on Brown and the culture of corruption

Buckeye Senate: ODP incompetence in endorsing

BFD more on secret ODP endorsement process

Plunderbund: Update on Brown still too chicken to meet bloggers

Every time the Brownies fuck up, it brings the Ohio netroots closer together. Sherrod Brown isn't the only reason that Democrats keep losing in Ohio, many of his contemporaries are equally incompetent. The Ohio netroots are building the infrastructure to ensure the long term health of the Party and their lack of respect for Brown is speeding up the process.

by blogswarm 2006-02-13 07:40AM | 0 recs
Who's the enemy here?
By looking at this thread I can only assume some are more interested in counting either/or's instead of winning majorities in both houses. Calling Brown OR Hackett the villain or saviour is ridiculous.
If some sort of idealized purity is your goal where the ends justify the means then realize that that attitude can lead to massive defeats at the polls and your goals being some sort other than winning elections.
I live in the 02 and certainly don't know much about Sherrod Brown but to demonize him as an example of a "corrupt" Ohio politician is ridiculous without citing something other than blogs for Hackett.
Personally I'd like to see the OH 02 go to a democrat AND the OH senate seat go to one as well.
What's the best way to get there should be the debate instead of trying to equate Sherrod Brown with Karl Rove or the devil.
by carsick 2006-02-13 08:00AM | 0 recs
Re: Who's the enemy here?

Thank you, thank you, thank you.  

Brown's been a great congressman, and a thorn in the Bush Admin's side on trade, overtime pay, and other issues.  He's been standing up for working people for a long time.  

Hackett did a lot to give Dems hope with his courageous and energetic campaign in the primary and , I would argue, lay some of the groundwork for the push by Murtha and others for an exit from Iraq.  

They're both good candidates with different strengths.  They both will do great work in the House or Senate.

Please, let's move beyond the name calling!  

by fox river 2006-02-13 09:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Who's the enemy here?

What the hell is your problem?!?

Would you listen to yourself? Talk about losing sight of the cause. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it sounds like you would rather have Mike DeWine than Sherrod Brown in the senate. I sincerely hope I am wrong about that.

by adamterando 2006-02-13 05:50PM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Bob,

I can't tell, so maybe you can help me out.

If your goal to be the blogosphere's Joe Lieberman (Democrat with decent views, but who loves to tear down other Dems with republican talking points), Chris Matthews ("balanced" loudmouth, spouting Republican frames), or just our old friend, Bob Shrum.

I anxiously await your response!

by DanielUA 2006-02-13 08:08AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Ooops.  I meant "is" your goal.

by DanielUA 2006-02-13 08:09AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

I want to Bob Casey, he's somebody that people admire!

by blogswarm 2006-02-13 08:27AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Yes Bob, because I am from Pennsylvania, and resigned to the fact that a candidate who is up 65 points in a poll is going to win, I must love Bob Casey!

If the rumors are true, and Hackett runs for Rep instead, does he keep you, or do you try and tear down another Democrat?  Maybe another member of the progressive caucus is running for office somewhere?  Go get em!

by DanielUA 2006-02-13 08:35AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

The rumors aren't true, the ODP machine was caught lying.

But the losers who have pushed this are doing a great job of pissing on the good Democrats who actually ARE running in OH-02. Gaby Downey is just getting her campaign off the ground, it must have been great for her team to read in the paper that the head of the DCCC doesn't think she can win. Thor Jacobs has been up and running, even convincing Hacketti alumn Tiffany Ellis to move back to Ohio and manage his campaign. I'm guessing they are thrilled to learn that they have zero chance, that should really help their campaign.

by blogswarm 2006-02-13 08:52AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in
You act as though you don't know the history of the district yet I'm sure you do.
Or you act as though Paul were just another democrat and the 02 would be happy with any ol' young idealistic democratic candidate to replace him in an effort to win that district.
No offense to the democrats entering the race but the circumstances are vastly different than when Paul ran and they don't have either the national attention he garnered in an off election year or the   Iraq War experience that helped set him apart from his republican opponent.  Paul lost to her and she's now the incumbant. I believe he's the only chance to win that seat.  And that's not showing disrespect to the democratic candidates who are entering the race, it's just my opinion of the circumstances in the 02.
by carsick 2006-02-13 09:05AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Democrats need to stop compromising to win any single election and start focusing on best practices that are sustainable.

Bossing primaries hurts the party in the long run, which is a pretty foolish mistake to make in trying to win the most conservative district in Ohio at the expense of having the best senate candidate.

No wonder we are in the minority.

by blogswarm 2006-02-13 09:43AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

So judging from what you've just said and your writings on this thread should I assume that you consider "best practices" as those used to demonize the opponent to win elections.  What party are you a member of? Just askin'.

by carsick 2006-02-13 09:51AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

I'm not a Democrat because I believe in democracy instead of party bosses?

As for demonizing opponents, it is the Brown campaign that is sending crap on Hackett to the right-wing bloggers. It is Brown supporters who lie about Hackett pulling out of the race. It is Brown's campaign that threatens Democrats' jobs if they don't support Sherrod. It is Brown's wife who writes drivel against bloggers because they don't buy into the Brown "it's my turn" campaign. And it is Brown supporters who boo a fellow Democrat for daring to ask what a public servant has accomplished. And it is Brown himself who had a meltdown at the Christmas Party against fellow Democrats.

Helluva job.

by blogswarm 2006-02-13 10:06AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Fuck you, you little worm. Who in the hell are you to question anyone's "goal in the blogosphere"?

by Gary Boatwright 2006-02-13 11:12AM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Your maturity is stunning!  

Maybe you can join up with Brigham, and follow him on his quixotic trips around the country tearing up progressive Democrats.

by DanielUA 2006-02-13 06:07PM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Perhaps you can go to Rahm's daily event called "Fuck the honest person" session, and enjoy it.

by KainIIIC 2006-02-13 06:26PM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

I honestly don't even know what that means.

by DanielUA 2006-02-13 07:04PM | 0 recs
Re: Sherrod should stay in

Thanks for this info.  

It looks like the ODP may be wanting us to work against them.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 09:03AM | 0 recs
Who's us?
Your post points out exactly why I'd been a political independent until I became a democrat last year. Democrats shoot themselves in the foot.
So obviously I'm not in the ODP but I gotta ask you: who's the us you refer to?  A minority of a minority  party?
No wonder republicans keep winning.
by carsick 2006-02-13 09:10AM | 0 recs
Re: Who's us?

I guess the "us" is Progressives that don't like to be dictated whom to accept vs elect in open elections.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 09:16AM | 0 recs
Sherrod should stay in

This diary, and your comment are ... just so frigging stupid I'm having a hard time understanding how any of you had a thought this would help Hackett.

Ya know, I got a call just before the new year from a very articulate Hackett supporter named Claire who wanted me to give money to Hackett prior to the year-end deadline. She reeled off 10 or 20 pro-Hackett points and 15 things wrong with DeWine before I could tell her I already was familiar with the reasons it's important to unseat DeWine. She was obviously very committed to Hackett so I gave $25 just to show support for her efforts.

How'd Hackett have my number? I gave to him in the special election also. So far, I haven't given a dime to Brown. Guess that makes me more of a Hackett supporter than Brown.

But you guys keep pissing me off with your hack and slash attempts to smear Brown.

When I see you providing a link to BuckeyeSenateBlog you really lose credibility. From what I've seen in the past that site plays fast and loose with the truth and doesn't care what they say in their attempt to get Hackett elected. Isn't Tim Russo involved with that?

If you can't win the primary without totally trashing Brown then I sincerely hope Hackett does withdraw so he can turn his sights on Republican Jean Schmidt instead of a progressive Democrat such as Sherrod Brown.

by Curt Matlock 2006-02-13 09:29AM | 0 recs
what are you talking about

"This diary, and your comment are ... just so frigging stupid I'm having a hard time understanding how any of you had a thought this would help Hackett."

You sure had alot to say for feeling that way.

First of all, get your facts straight, this diary is not smearing anyone, it is confronting their smear tactics.

Second, I didn't post any link.  Do you see one up?  You seem to be playing roll reversal here.  The Hackett supporters are the ones asking for dignified, OPEN  elections, not trying to strong arm people out of the race.  Get your facts straight please.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 09:48AM | 0 recs
Brown isn't a progressive?

News to me.  I thought he was one of the more progressive liberals in congress and in fact (now that you are forcing me to learn about the guy) I think Project Vote Smart backs up that idea:
2004  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2004, Representative Brown voted more liberal on social policy issues than 85 percent of the Representatives.

2004  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Economic Policy's calculations, in 2004, Representative Brown voted more liberal on economic policy issues than 89 percent of the Representatives.

2004  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Economic Policy calculations, in 2004 Representative Brown voted more conservative on economic policy issues than 8 percent of Representatives.

2004  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2004, Representative Brown voted more liberal on foreign policy issues than 81 percent of the Representatives.

2004  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2004, Representative Brown voted more conservative on foreign policy issues than 18 percent of the Representatives.

2004  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Social Policy's calculations, in 2004, Representative Brown voted more conservative on social policy issues than 15 percent of the Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Economic Policy's calculations, in 2003, Representative Brown voted more conservative on economic policy issues than 9 percent of the Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2003, Representative Brown voted more liberal on social policy issues than 81 percent of the Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score's calculations, in 2003, Representative Brown voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 89 percent of the Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2003, Representative Brown voted more liberal on foreign policy issues than 94 percent of the Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Economic Policy's calculations, in 2003, Representative Brown voted more liberal on economic policy issues than 87 percent of the Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Foreign Policy calculations, in 2003 Representative Brown voted more conservative on foreign policy issues than 0 percent of Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Composite Conservative Score's calculations, in 2003, Representative Brown voted more conservative on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 11 percent of the Representatives.

2003  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Social Policy's calculations, in 2003, Representative Brown voted more conservative on social policy issues than 19 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Economic Policy's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more liberal on economic policy issues than 88 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Composite Conservative Score's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more conservative on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 15 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Composite Liberal Score's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more liberal on economic, defense and foreign policy issues than 85 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more liberal on foreign policy issues than 87 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Economic Policy's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more conservative on economic policy issues than 10 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Social Policy's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more conservative on social policy issues than 19 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more conservative on foreign policy issues than 10 percent of the Representatives.

2002  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2002, Representative Brown voted more liberal on social policy issues than 74 percent of the Representatives.

2001  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Social Policy's calculations, in 2001, Representative Brown voted more conservative on social policy issues than 11 percent of the Representatives.

2001  According to the National Journal - Conservative on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2001, Representative Brown voted more conservative on foreign policy issues than 8 percent of the Representatives.

2001  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Economic Policy's calculations, in 2001, Representative Brown voted more liberal on economic policy issues than 95 percent of the Representatives.

2001  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Social Policy's calculations, in 2001, Representative Brown voted more liberal on social policy issues than 83 percent of the Representatives.

2001  According to the National Journal - Liberal on Foreign Policy's calculations, in 2001, Representative Brown voted more liberal on foreign policy issues than 91 percent of the Representatives.

by carsick 2006-02-13 09:26AM | 0 recs
Re: Brown isn't a progressive?
Turns out since 2001 Brown averages a rating of voting more liberal on issues than 86% of his colleagues in congress.
Are "progressives" expecting a higher number from Hackett?
by carsick 2006-02-13 09:37AM | 0 recs
Brown isn't a progressive?

Who said that?
That isn't even the point is it?

We're talking proper conduct in elections.  Lets stick with the facts.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 09:54AM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race
I got off subject because I thought "progressives" wanted progressive candidates whether from a primary or not their goal was progressive candidates.
Otherwise, can you show me your proof for this statement:
"For anyone who has an iota of historical reference, Democrats win in Ohio when we have contested primaries.  Just how it goes."
by carsick 2006-02-13 10:02AM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

There is another way to look at who has lost, and that is geography:

In 1982, when Lakewood Democrat Richard F. Celeste won the governorship - the last Democrat to do so - voters in Cuyahoga and the six counties that border it cast about 894,000 votes for all gubernatorial candidates.

In 2002, albeit in a tepid contest between GOP incumbent Bob Taft and Greater Cleveland Democrat Timothy F. Hagan, the total gubernatorial vote in the seven Greater Cleveland counties fell to about 804,000 votes. Conversely, the total gubernatorial vote cast in Franklin (Columbus) and Hamilton (Cincinnati) and their bordering counties rose from a combined 817,000 votes in 1982 to 858,000 votes in 2002.

Trends are even more revealing in outer suburbia. Growth from 1982 to 2002 in the total gubernatorial vote cast in counties bordering Franklin (28 percent) or Hamilton (40 percent) dwarfs the 3.5 percent rise in counties bordering Cuyahoga. Heavy GOP voting in suburban Cincinnati is widely said to have assured Ohio's electoral vote for President Bush in 2004.

When it comes to Democrats running statewide, look where losers have come from.

Process does matter and the push against a fair fight hurts Democrats, especially when they are trying to boss a candidate from the wrong corner of the state.

by blogswarm 2006-02-13 10:16AM | 0 recs
gettin' all GooGoo on me
See I started arguing with some of you because I thought you were unfairly demonizing one of the candidates and now all of the sudden you guys are gettin' all good government on me.
Personally I want to get rid of Schmidt in the 02 and win the senate seat but I never said anything against having primaries.
by carsick 2006-02-13 10:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

Also don't ignore the 2004 Election.  McAuliffe wanted an annointed candidate before the Presidential Primary elections were held.  After only the first caucus, he wanted the rest to bail.  Many warned this was not the appropriate way to weather the General Election candidate-having him annointed and not see how he could handle the fight.  They were right.  We failed.  Call me silly, I like to learn from mistakes and not relive them.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 10:17AM | 0 recs
Learn from our mistakes?

Now I know you're not a Democrat. Democrats keep repeating the same old mistakes over and over and over again for twenty or thirty years.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-02-13 11:17AM | 0 recs
non-answer and you know it

And if Hackett can't beat Brown without all of your efforts to demonize Brown in the name of "progressives"...

Since 1970 among successful democratic runs for Governor, the only democratic primary that was anywhere near a contest was in '82. The others were close to token contests and I'm certain that even if Hackett pulls out of the race there will be someone else running in the primary.

by carsick 2006-02-13 10:23AM | 0 recs
Just to be clear

You want Hackett to win the primary and obviously it's great that you're engaged with the process but realize that you do not speak for "progressives" in some larger sense and that if you use nasty attacks on Brown then you will get people either defending him or defending a cleaner race.  I put myself in the latter category because being from the 02 I don't yet know Brown all that well.

by carsick 2006-02-13 11:01AM | 0 recs
Re: Just to be clear

Where is the "nasty attack" you are referring to?

by Gary Boatwright 2006-02-13 11:15AM | 0 recs
Re: Just to be clear
So far from reading this thread Brown has been called a liar, a coward and corrupt among others. Nice talk from democrats about another democrat.
Maybe you agree but again as I said before people who disagree will call you on it as they endevour for democrats to win elections and not eat their own.
by carsick 2006-02-13 11:27AM | 0 recs
Who elected you language nanny?

I presume those "attacks" are in comments, since they do not appear in the diary. People can say any stupid fucking thing they want to in comments and it's none of your business to correct them.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-02-13 12:36PM | 0 recs
the diary writer

wrote some of those aspersions in the comments.

by carsick 2006-02-13 01:34PM | 0 recs
Just to be clear
So you are claiming "It's the truth" that Brown is a corrupt and cowardly liar and that you just want Hackett in the primary so Ohians can have a clean and clear chance to voice their support?
What if Hackett doesn't win and the republican candidate airs commercials saying "even democrats call Brown a corrupt and cowardly liar."
Lovely stuff.  After stirring up such vitriol I find it funny that you would support anyone who would beat Hackett in the primary and thus...once again...why I find it so hard to be a democrat.
by carsick 2006-02-13 12:07PM | 0 recs
far from clear

You saying some mighty nasty things here, and that's all coming from you.

The diary is quite clear.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 12:18PM | 0 recs
please cite

Please review the thread and point to where I've engaged in idle gossip and name calling. My reading of the thread is all of that type of information - none of which I would read and consider "facts" seems to come from you and another commenter named Bob Brigham.

by carsick 2006-02-13 12:33PM | 0 recs
We don't need a nanny at MyDD

If you want to apply for the position, I suggest you write a diary recommending yourself as language nanny.

by Gary Boatwright 2006-02-13 12:38PM | 0 recs
You asked a question and I answered

I'm not sure what your last comment was about.

by carsick 2006-02-13 12:40PM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

Sherrod, where are you?  What is your response?  In the race, open and fair embracing all candidates wanting to provide one of the highest services, running for public office, or staying in Congress?

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 11:13AM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

Chris Bowers ! Its time for you to take the lead!

If you have to take opposing sides with Jerome on this one, so be it.

You and Markos have to speak up.

You stepped aside when Sherrod did a 360 degree turnaround.

But today, you have to take the lead & fight for Hackett ! Fight for him to stay in the race.

These are the moments within the party that you send a message to my two Jewish friends, Rahm Emmanuel & Chuck Schumer- STOP ! You're pressure on Hackett is BASELESS!

There is absolutely no reason for Hackett to drop-out! NOTHING!

by fightingLadyinblue 2006-02-13 12:45PM | 0 recs
a 360 renders one back where they started

and please give a reason for mentioning someone's religion in this discussion.

by carsick 2006-02-13 12:52PM | 0 recs
perhaps you mean a 180 and not a 360

I don't see the reason for interjecting someone's religion into this discussion.  Is there a reason?

by carsick 2006-02-13 01:00PM | 0 recs
Re:carsick, you're making me sick.

listen carsick,

before you play your politically correct garbage, clean up your act. go to ohio & carry sherrod's bag. But stop using all your nasty language here.

you like to give, but you can't take it. The democratic party has no place for the weak. especially softy men. Go home! yes, rahm & charles are proud jews. just a harry reid is a proud mormon. Are you proud ?

by fightingLadyinblue 2006-02-13 02:09PM | 0 recs
This comment

...makes absolutely no sense.

by LiberalFromPA 2006-02-13 02:47PM | 0 recs
Re: This comment

Indeed.

by blogswarm 2006-02-13 02:50PM | 0 recs
Re:carsick, you're making me sick.

Lots of vitriol but I wasn't asking if people were proud of their religious affiliations or not.  I was asking why you were bringing their religious affiliations into this discussion. If it's pertinent to the conversation please inform me how.

by carsick 2006-02-13 02:58PM | 0 recs
By the way...

I live in the second district of Ohio.

by carsick 2006-02-13 03:00PM | 0 recs
I see now....
You were trying to do the wink wink nudge nudge thing about jewish people and - is "softy men" supposed to be gay men or just effeminate men despite their sexual orientation.
Sorry to take so long catching up.  I'm just a Southern Ohioan and you know what they say about Southern Ohioans...it's all true.
As for my "nasty language" I guess Momma done taught me wrong, I thought I was talkin' nice.
by carsick 2006-02-13 03:47PM | 0 recs
also, a reason to drop out
or a chance to win an otherwise unwinnable House seat.
I live in the 02 and I don't care what that Bob guy says above only Hackett has a chance to beat Schmidt in the 02.
by carsick 2006-02-13 01:05PM | 0 recs
So do I

and that's why I know what is better.

The field is already crowded with 5 in the Congressional Race.  

Paul Hackett will make a great Senator For the entire state, not just making the 02nd dist proud.  And of course, let's not forget the benefit the entire country will have from a Senator Hackett.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 03:44PM | 0 recs
I understand

let's try to see if the primary race can be won or lost without all the accusations and name-calling.  Afterall, a general election will follow and no matter the winner we'll need every vote we can get.

by carsick 2006-02-13 04:01PM | 0 recs
Re: also, a reason to drop out

And only Hackett has a chance at winning this Senate seat... Think about it a house seat that we could only hold for one term or a senate seat think about it for a bit.

by Liberal 2006-02-13 03:59PM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

Well folks if Hackett leaveing is true we just lost any chance of being the Majority party in the senate.

by Liberal 2006-02-13 03:58PM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

by rapid response 2006-02-13 04:11PM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

Enough already!

Let's just kick some Republican ass.

by blues 2006-02-13 04:24PM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

Does anyone have a link to what Sherrod Brown said somthing about how great Bush was doing with our body armor or somthing like that.

by Liberal 2006-02-13 05:46PM | 0 recs
Curious

If Hackett does drop out (is it confirmed yet?), will a lot of the Brown critics here not vote for Brown in the general? Just wondering how a Hackett drop-out might affect Brown.

by LiberalFromPA 2006-02-13 05:51PM | 0 recs
Re: Curious

I might just be amazing myself how far I would go at this point to make sure he doesn't get in.

Do they really think these qualities of Brown (and Emanuel) are somethinig I WANT REPRESENTING ME?  Ha!

I REALLY DO THINK, ALL THE DIRTY GAMES SHERROD STARTED PLAYING, with putting out his "feelers" to test the waters before he announced he was reneging his announcement NOT to run for the Senate and now jumping in, after he saw Paul Hacketts poll numbers beating DeWine, he has caused so much damage, that he can't win the seat.  
Obviously really not paying attention to the voters in the state that are very independent, nothing like his many years long supporters that cheer him, with no information or facts being shared.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 06:03PM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

BTW, I think it a good idea for Rahm Emanuel to move to Ohio's 02nd district and run for the seat with the other 5 already in the field.

Then Sherrod Brown can run for his old seat and the two will be very happy working together again.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-13 05:57PM | 0 recs
Eye on the Prize

Did it occur to anybody here that Hackett's netroots guy in 2005 is now Brown's, and has been for a long time? That Hackett's main fundraising head has been working for Brown from the beginning? There is a reason Hackett has raised so little money, and it's not a conspiracy. Hackett hasn't developed the money operation on his own. Ohio has three major media markets. It isn't cheap to win an election there. I'd be thrilled with Hackett in the Senate - probably more so than Brown because Hackett is such a refreshing straight shooter. But I care more about knocking DeWine out, and if Hackett doesn't have the cash to compete with DeWine then it won't work.

Hackett should run for OH-02 and give Mean Jean a run for her money.

by elrod 2006-02-13 09:31PM | 0 recs
Prize was tossed with Browns dirty games

AND WE NETROOTS KNOW THAT.  YOU THINK THE HACKETT SUPPORTERS AND NETROOTS ARE GOING OVER TO BROWN AFTER THEIR CONDUCT?  Oh how funny.  The Ohio Dem Party, Brown/Strickland made it very clear they don't wish to change and embrace true Democratic values by their strong arm tactics.  THE NETROOTS will not be falling in line, because they made it  clear they are only abusing, using and trying to squash the netroots efforts.  Oh, but you mean they'll gladly take our volunteer work or money so long as they can play dirty.

Sorry, no.  Pass.    

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-14 02:56AM | 0 recs
if you cared about unseating DeWine

You wouldn't have embraced this dirty Brown game.

BTW...you must be obviously another one on his camp...I'm seeing the same rhetoric being sent through out the blogosphere.

You think raising $465,000.00 in his first quarter is nothing...well roll over  Sherrod only raised $495,000.00    OOOPS.

by LindainCincinnati 2006-02-14 02:59AM | 0 recs
Re: Urge Sherrod Brown to leave Senate Race

LOL

When you google "Sherrod Brown", this is the third link.

Irony - he's now one of the best Senators in the nation and one of the top 5 allies progressives have in the Senate.

Good thing no one listened to you eh? :)

by belili 2008-05-08 06:38PM | 0 recs

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