The lady has class and makes me chuckle

Two things stuck out in my mind tonight as Hillary Clinton made her way from Larry to Keith to the Obliterator (OK, so I don't watch much WWE and I made that name up, sue me). Firstly, Hillary Clinton is one classy lady. It is amazing to see a woman and a mother who has put up with so much and taken so much flack, stand up so straight and proud for the country she loves. It is amazing to see her, with dignity and grace, go on Keith Olbermann's Count-the-ways-I-love-Obama-down and face him and his dishonest questioning- with a bit of humor too!

Did anyone notice Keith's convenient paraphrasing? Like when he forgot to mention the second half of Obama's quote- the bit where he destroyed the DNC's campaign of the last two months by saying McCain would be a better President than Bush? Well I sure as hell didn't miss it and neither did Hillary. But unlike me, who would have directly called b.s. on loverboy Olbermann, Hillary did something better- she refuted Olbermann's assumptions and then did what needed to be done- she cast McCain as not just the same as Bush, but worse. And I paraphase:

In fact [McCain's] statement about being willing to leave troops in Iraq for up to 100 years is something that I absolutely reject, that would be worse than President Bush...

Thank you Hillary, for knowing how to take the fight to 'em! And with such poise- no one does it better.

Secondly, I caught a video today that I want to share. Its Chelsea, you know, that beautiful, articulate, intelligent woman that just happened to be raised by Hillary Clinton. I think children speak volumes about the character of the person who raised them, but thats just me- I am just a hick with guns from Montana- a bit old-fashioned if you will. Here is the vid of Chelsea, it makes me even more proud to be a Hillary supporter:

Ok, so I can't get the video to embed... I blame the machine

Happy PA primary folks! Give all you can to our girl- let her know we are proud of her and we appreciate all she has, is and will do for this country.

The sense of humor bit? When Hillary said this to Olbermann:

...but I do believe in redemption Keith... I think its possible for anyone to see the error of their ways... ...I am bringing people together as we speak...

Well, I still haven't stopped giggling

No Quarter kindly put this up as well, with video (something I was not able to accomplish!)

Tags: chelsea, Hillary, Olbermann (all tags)



Running an ad against a fellow Democrat

   including images of the man that attacked our country, then has the nerve to spin that ad as a positive ad!

  Hillary does indeed have a lot of class...but its all LOW!!

by southernman 2008-04-21 09:45PM | 0 recs
Where was the 'against'?

I have to wonder if there really is a religious fervor behind some people's faith in and support of Obama: here you are denouncing a half second image of bin Laden as some kind of graven image.

How terrible. No one is allowed to reference what happened on 9/11 with respect to the unpredictable challenges a future president will face.

Coincidentally, there was nothing in that ad about Barack Obama. What else have you got?

by bowiegeek 2008-04-22 12:02AM | 0 recs
Actually, there were a lot more scary things...

than OBL in the ad - like the economy, gas prices, health care....strange that you missed ALL of those.

Oh, I forgot, you were just looking for something you think you can use to make a nasty HRC statement.

So sad for you.

by CoyoteCreek 2008-04-22 09:16AM | 0 recs
Didn't seem to bother you

   when Hillary praised McCain while trashing Obama!!

  A tad hypocritical tonite are we? I think so!!

by southernman 2008-04-21 09:46PM | 0 recs
Re: Didn't seem to bother you

And what about the fact that she's promised (as recently as tonight) to campaign for Obama if he's the nominee? She's said that getting a Democrat into the White House is the most important consideration. She's also specifically told people to vote for the Democratic nominee, not McCain. No hypocrisy here, thanks.

by sricki 2008-04-21 10:09PM | 0 recs
It's pretty much a given

Either, as loyal Democrats, are going to need to campaign for the other once this is over.  I don't think this is a point of contention.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-22 07:31AM | 0 recs

Obama will campaign like crazy for Clinton.  It's foolish to think that he would be so self-centered not to... even if he were, it's better for him to have a Democratic president... any Democratic president, than a Republican president and more gridlock.

The community organizing fellowship interns that he's orgainizing for the summer is going to proceed whether he's the nominee or not.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-22 09:16AM | 0 recs

   Obama has stated many times that he would campaign for the nominee should that not be him. He's been saying so far longer than Clinton has.
by southernman 2008-04-22 11:08AM | 0 recs
Rendell: McCain "a Profile in Courage"

Just the other day Clinton surrogate Ed Rendell told Fox's Frank Luntz and a bunch of college students that John McCain is "a man of unusual courage."

He spoke glowingly about McCain's character, calling him "an exceptional person" and praising him for standing up to the Republicans on key issues like immigration.

He closed by saying that we have "three exceptional candidates," which is a much stronger endorsement than anything Obama said.

Rendell and Obama understand that McCain WOULD be better than Bush, because the bar has been set so very low. I am positive that Hillary believes this, too, but she doesn't have the courage to say so.

The video of Rendell's comments is here: q0

by jdusek 2008-04-22 01:03PM | 0 recs
You go girl!
looks like the Obama fans were p.o.'ed by her stellar performance. Ha!
by linc 2008-04-21 09:50PM | 0 recs
Re: You go girl!

No, the Obama fans didn't find her performance all that stellar, but reasonable people can disagree.

I do give her major credit for going into the proverbial lion's den, though.

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-21 09:53PM | 0 recs
Re: You go girl!

Link, what a great diary.  You are very observant.  If there is a chance we might cross-post this at NoQuarter, please let me know by e-mail at susanunpc at gmail dot com . Larry Johnson will really appreciate what you caught in that interview.

by susanhu 2008-04-22 08:29AM | 0 recs

Larry Johnson.

by McNasty 2008-04-22 12:07PM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

Honestly, whenever either Obama or Clinton brings up the whole 100 years statement from McCain, it bothers me.  He obviously didn't mean to suggest that we will still have a huge presence in the country or that the war will still be going on.  Its really disingenuous to portray it this way.

by KevinT 2008-04-21 09:52PM | 0 recs
He went on to describe our presence in Germany as a comparative example... I don't know about you, but that's not something I have in mind for America's future.
by linc 2008-04-21 09:55PM | 0 recs
Re: What?

He said: "We've been in South Korea, we've been in Japan for 60 years. We've been in South Korea for 50 years or so. That'd be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. Then it's fine with me. I would hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day."

He said that he would be fine with it as long as troops weren't being harmed or killed, which is obviously not the case now or anytime in the near future.  He didn't say he would be fine with staying in Iraq for 100 years under current conditions, which is what Obama and Clinton imply.  

The real point they should hit him on is that he has absolutely no plan for getting us to the point where such a minimal presence would be possible. According to him, we can't leave while things are going poorly, and we can't leave while things are going well.  Thats what they should be focused on, not some imagined desire of John McCain to continue this war for 100 years.

by KevinT 2008-04-21 10:07PM | 0 recs
Excuse me
so it was South Korea and Japan, do you have any idea how many troops we have stationed in those two countries?
by linc 2008-04-21 10:09PM | 0 recs
Re: Excuse me

But thats the whole point.  Most Americans would be fine with 20,000 troops in a peaceful Iraq governed by a stable government.  And as long as these troops weren't being killed and wounded in large numbers, and as long as the people of Iraq actually wanted them there, that would be more than acceptable.

That is what McCain was talking about. And of course its completely unrealistic, which is exactly what Obama and Clinton should be saying.  But instead they are trying to distort what he said, and I just don't think that argument is really going to work in the general election.

by KevinT 2008-04-21 10:24PM | 0 recs
The gist is true enough

McCain will stay in Iraq for as long as it takes for us to reach that stable level where Americans aren't being killed... which will be approximately when the entire place is a tomb.

McCain hasn't addressed what he'll do when years go by and we haven't reached that point.  The only reasonable assumption is that we'll still be there until the next president arrives.

The Middle East isn't like Germany or Korea or Japan.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-22 07:36AM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

It's not disingenuous, it's the fact. Did you see the clip? The guy was damn proud of his 100 years comment.

Here's a clip: ps

He thinks it would be just fine and dandy if we have a standing presence in Iraq, just like South Korea and Japan. He's a freaking moron...we're in South Korea, Japan, Germany, etc., because of armistices that ended wars. A standing presence in Iraq would just be an occupation. They don't want us there and we're not helping the situation.

What exactly are you supporting in McCain's comment?

by Johnny Gentle Famous Crooner 2008-04-21 10:00PM | 0 recs
Thank you....

Nice positive diary on the night before the big primary. Well said! I thought she was absolutely terrific tonight on Larry King.

by MediaFreeze 2008-04-21 09:53PM | 0 recs
You are welcome
and thank you! I have a few good feelings about our fighter and the results tomorrow- but never stop, eh? Give her all the help we can!
by linc 2008-04-21 09:57PM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

Thanks for sharing your impressions. Our TV is out and perhaps that's a blessing in disguise - I doubt that I could stomach watching Keith Obamaman. Sounds like she kicked butt.

by portia9 2008-04-21 10:01PM | 0 recs
no prob
I don't have cable- I had to sneak onto the internets... ')
by linc 2008-04-21 10:05PM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

i saw both - she rocked it - even with douchey mcghee over at msnbc.  go hill!

by canadian gal 2008-04-21 10:07PM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

You agree that we should  nuke Iran if they nuked a regional friend?

by RLMcCauley 2008-04-22 06:22AM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

depends who that friend is.  but would never happen.

by canadian gal 2008-04-22 06:50AM | 0 recs
Nuke Nuke Nuke Iran

Russia responds and nukes us. WWIII!!! YAY!!!


by RLMcCauley 2008-04-22 06:21AM | 0 recs
Your comments
speak volumes about your utter lack of knowledge of foreign affairs.
by linc 2008-04-22 06:58AM | 0 recs
No, no, no.

You meant his comments speak volumes about Senator Clinton's utter lack of knowledge of foreign affairs.  It's like she skipped Cold War history altogether.

by McNasty 2008-04-22 12:08PM | 0 recs
You mean MAD?
is that what you are referring to? Don't make yourself look even more silly.
by linc 2008-04-22 12:13PM | 0 recs
Did you learn a new acronym?

Good for you!

Yes, I meant MAD in particular.  Nothing silly about it, actually, it's quite serious.  Senator Clinton disqualified herself from consideration with those statements.

by McNasty 2008-04-22 12:18PM | 0 recs
You make no sense
and yes, you look even sillier. Mutually Assured Destruction is what kept the bombs from flying during the cold war- its exactly what Clinton described in her response the a 'what if Iran had nukes' question.
by linc 2008-04-22 12:22PM | 0 recs
The Lady is Fearless

That's what I want in a President---Someone who is not afraid to tread even the harshest of waters.  She's a fighter, sure enough.  And that's what we need now in these turbulent times.

by izarradar 2008-04-22 08:16AM | 0 recs
"The lady has class" makes me chuckle

that anyone could watch Clinton's hideous, classless, clueless, tastelees, racist, ReThug  campaign and say she has class says WAY more about their bizarre sense of justice, or lack of it, than it does anything about the campaign.

one of the most despicable campaigns in Democratic history.

by catchaz 2008-04-22 08:17AM | 0 recs
You are a fool
and Obama is not your messiah. Wake up-
by linc 2008-04-22 08:21AM | 0 recs
You get uprated

for calling people names?

This site is soooo fucked.

by McNasty 2008-04-22 12:09PM | 0 recs
Re: "The lady has class"

I like Obama, and if he's the nominee but his supporters (which i'm assuming you are) come out with some real dumb stuff.

The Clintons are racist, classic.

Obama attacks Hillary's character, fine. Hillary attacks Obama's character, outrageous.

Obama uses Republican talking points to attack Hillary's truly universal health care plan, silence. Hillary tries to appeal to white, working class people in PA since Obama has the black vote sewn up, she's a Rethug.

Hillary gets it wrong about Bosnia, she's a liar. Obama tells a lie, silence.

I understand why Republicans hate Hillary, she's against everything they stand for. But Hillary has spent her life fighting for civil rights, children's rights, women's rights, universal healthcare, gay rights etc. So why so many progressives hate her is beyond me.

I support Hillary, but i dont suffer from the same delusions about her that many Obama supporters have about him.

by liberalj 2008-04-22 08:27AM | 0 recs
To be fair

There are lunatics on both sides of the debate.

You only have to peruse many of the diaries on this site's recc list to see that.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-22 09:17AM | 0 recs
Re: "The lady has class" makes me

I'm not going to TR you, but your rhetoric is offensive. Please tone it down.

by sricki 2008-04-22 11:36AM | 0 recs
Seems to me...

Obama hasn't complained, per se, about the debate questions.  He said that Clinton seemed quite at home in that atmosphere.

The questions?  The hatchet job?  He just brushed 'em off his sleeve.

by Dracomicron 2008-04-22 11:59AM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

Wonderful diary, linc. I am giggling too now. Talk about Daniel in the Lion's den. She is amazing.

by linfar 2008-04-22 08:46AM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

The link to the Countdown with KO video for those of us that missed last night's show:


Gotcha questions from the MSM?  Ha, patty-cake for Hillary!  :)

And here is a great video:

Hillary Clinton -- Simply The Best!

by Hurdy Gurdy 2008-04-22 09:09AM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

The partisan blinders and wilfull blindness of Clinton supporters, such as yourself, never ceases to amaze me.

The simplistic reasoning: Because Obama says McCain would be better than Bush, he "destroys" any right to say that McCain will be a continuation of Bush.  I disagree.  

I suggest that Medvedev may be an improvement from Putin although Russian politics will remain largely controlled by Putin's policies and enduring control.

In the same way, McCain will remain wed to Bush on economic and military policy, he will not be as indebted to the far right in terms of social policies.  This will constitute, at least, some improvement (so would things like, for example, Cheney being cast away).

Not everything has to be black and white.

Obama may continue making the case that McCain essentially represents a 3rd Bush term.  Nobody suggested that it was literally Bush's 3rd term.

Lastly, while you applaud Clinton's "fight", you forget to respect the candidate who has effectively won by decision, or TKO, if not knockout.

It's tough to knock out a party stalwart, when the Clinton's maintain a strong position of influence in the party.  As such, it seems that superdelegates are hoping that Clinton will do the right thing and concede before the Convention.  Clinton is counting her political capital that the heat won't get too much that she has to leave the kitchen.

by jv 2008-04-22 09:47AM | 0 recs
Oh, thats not what I said
Haven't you seen any of Dean's youtube videos comparing McCain and Bush? How does that campaign work with what Obama had to say about McCain?
by linc 2008-04-22 10:14AM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, thats not what I said

It accords because they're comparable.  However, McCain is not Bush.

Not everything is so starkly black and white.

by jv 2008-04-22 01:39PM | 0 recs
Re: Oh, thats not what I said

it may be bad form to concede anything to McCain, but I believe that McCain would be better than Bush. For one thing, he has at least average intelligence. He has the emotional maturity of someone greater than 5 years old. He's accomplished more in his pre-candidate life than Bush ever did. And he doesn't swagger.

Now of course his victory would send me over the edge and the last thing anyone wants is McCain in there, but he would be waaaaay better than Bush. No question.

Bush is an exceptional failure.

by SeanF 2008-04-22 03:57PM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

"...'but I do believe in redemption Keith... I think its possible for anyone to see the error of their ways... ...I am bringing people together as we speak...'

Well, I still haven't stopped giggling"

YES!  DITTO....wasn't it priceless!

.......AND, that is the only portion Keith Obamamann got of my airwaves!

by LindaSFNM 2008-04-22 10:09AM | 0 recs
I looked everywhere
so that I wouldn't have to go to MSNBC- futile... hopefully it will be the last time I have to do so, at least until Olbermann grows back up again and stops thinking politics and sports are the same thing.
by linc 2008-04-22 10:15AM | 0 recs
Chelsea Clinton in Indiana

by Nobama 2008-04-22 10:54AM | 0 recs
How did you do that?
I thought I had it all figured out! No avail...
by linc 2008-04-22 11:05AM | 0 recs
Re: How did you do that?

Linc, i can't type in the code without it showing up so I'll try this.

Instead of using less than/greater than symbols, I'll use parenthesis:


(p)paste in embed code here(/p)


The embed code starts with (object, ends with /object).

by Nobama 2008-04-22 11:30AM | 0 recs
its p tags?
wow- I would never have figured that out- who knew you needed paragraph tags...
Thank you so very much!
by linc 2008-04-22 11:50AM | 0 recs
Re: The lady has class and makes me chuckle

Wow.  Wake up!  She wants to nuke Iran.  You are a lunatic.

by ramfar 2008-04-22 11:58AM | 0 recs


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