New SUSA poll - Ohio General Election!

SUSA has just come out with a new general election poll out of Ohio. The results are all over the place. The bottom line: Edwards and Giuliani both do great.

  • Giuliani beats all three Democrats. He beats both Clinton and Edwards by a point (48% to 47%) but destroys Obama by 13 (52% to 39%).
  • Clinton wins her two other contests: She leads Thompson by a small point (48-47), but leads more comfortably against Romney (52-42).
  • Edwards, however, crushes both Thompson (53-42) and Romney (53-36), running about 10 points in front of Clinton.
  • Obama wins none of his matchups, not even against Romney (though he only trails by an insignificant point). He loses by 8 against Thompson, which means he is running 20 points behind Edwards.

Link to the poll here

Just as in SUSA's polls from Alabama and Kentucky yesterday, Obama is running 20 points behind Edwards, and also fares much worse than Clinton. What can this be attributed to? Name ID? An actual downard trendline?

Other new polls this morning out of New Hampshire general election, and California primaries, which do not hold good news for Giuliani! Check them out!

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Tags: clinton, Edwards, Giuliani, obama, Ohio, poll, Romney, SUSA, Thompson (all tags)




Obama's numbers are truly dismal based on the three SurveyUSA state polls we've see so far.

His electability is a big question mark despite his supporters claim that he's some sort of once-in-a-lifetime figure to 'change the map'.

Horrible, horrible numbers. I may write a summary diary when more head-to-head numbers come in.

by areyouready 2007-09-21 09:30AM | 0 recs
Obama will change the map alright

Change it bright RED.

There is still a lot of quiet (and not so quiet) racism in this country.  In states like Ohio and PA it really does exist.

by dpANDREWS 2007-09-21 09:40AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will change the map alright

Their is also a lot of sexisim going around, it is hidden from pollsters.

I believe that both Clinton and Obama WILL NEED A 5 PT CUSHION in the polls over their Republican candidate in-order to win.

by BDM 2007-09-21 10:20AM | 0 recs
I agree

5 pt min.

There is a lot of social pressure to say how much you like Hillary.

I call her support a mile wide and a milimeter deep.  There are a lot of people who won't vote for her.  She is divisive, and it is not just because she is a woman.

by dataguy 2007-09-21 11:21AM | 0 recs
Re: Obama will change the map alright

For several months now state polls have shown that Obama would do extremely poorly in general election matchups against various potential GOP nominees. He  often polls only in the 30s compared to the high 40's for Clinton and Edwards. He polls poorly even in the bluest of blue states in the Northeast. Both Clinton and Edwards can put together the electoral votes to win but it would be extremely unlikely that Obama could do so.

by robliberal 2007-09-21 10:34AM | 0 recs
His recent tax proposal

is gonna make his numbers plummet.  The proposal sucked, it was not progressive, it locked in the ridiculous Bush tax cuts, and it continues the pander-fest that all pols engage in.

I was really vexed and disappointed by it.  I have not been a huge Obama fan, but this led me to even more skeptically regard him.

by dataguy 2007-09-21 11:22AM | 0 recs
Bravo Bravo

to the so-called "progressives" hailing "Obama's unelectablitity" can't help it can you.?You see a different black candidate with an unconventional message who happens to be a fresh face but because you can't say out in the open what you conveniently fear inside, you point to early polls saying '..ooh..horrible numbers'. Then election day comes you expect minority voters to march lock step and vote for the democratic establishment! Keep at it, one day (and very soon I hope) you won't have black voters voters to dick around anymore!

by dantata 2007-09-21 11:32AM | 0 recs
Re: Bravo Bravo

Frankly, I'm stunned that you are playing the "race card" about this.

by reasonwarrior 2007-09-21 07:38PM | 0 recs
Nice to see some different numbers

These sort of jive with Quinnipiac.  Hillary has beaten Rudy in the their last two but by a small margain.  Essentially Ohio is what you expect.  Bith candidates will start with 46 to 47 % support and have to fight for the last 6 to 8%.

I do think the Democrats have a slight advantage this time around.  There will be gay baiting referendums on the ballet, and the Democrats have more control statewide, incl a popular gov.

If Strickland is the VP consider it a slam dunk.  

by dpANDREWS 2007-09-21 09:39AM | 0 recs
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Ohio and Florida are the key to the election and Hillary has them both in her corners against Rudy.

Edwards is doing well in OH, but FL is not in the corner yet for him and that is not a productive development.

Bottom Line: Dems crush GOP in OH, except for Obama, our so-called "uniter"

by American1989 2007-09-21 09:40AM | 0 recs
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by BDM 2007-09-21 10:45AM | 0 recs
Re: New SUSA poll - Ohio General Election!

I have always said and always been criticized, Obama is the least electable Democrat of the top tier. I will feel much more comfortable with Clinton or Edwards on top of the ticket. They both put red states into play and gives Republicans a run for their money.

by RJEvans 2007-09-21 09:45AM | 0 recs
Re: New SUSA poll - Ohio General Election!

There's been a downward trend for the Democrats (maybe except for Edwards) in this batch of SUSA polls.  They were taken at the height of the Petraeus flap.  

Interesting Obama leads Rudy in national Rasmussen polling; might there be a disconnect?

If there is a turning point to the GOP's favor, thanks MoveOn!  

by mikelow1885 2007-09-21 09:56AM | 0 recs
Re: New SUSA poll - Ohio General Election!

State poll's generally lag national polls.

I see the race tightening:

Rasmussen today shows a 11 pt Clinton lead
Zogby shows a 14pt Clinton lead
Cook Report shows a 13 pt Clinton lead

These poll's generally use registered or likely voters than all adults. They also have tighter screens. Zogvy has 20% UN-DECIDED.

All of these poll's put her numbers in the 35-36 range.

Caveat. We will just need to see more Rasmussen polling to see if this is statistical noise or not. However, He stated this is the closest lead for Clinton since mid-July.

by BDM 2007-09-21 10:26AM | 0 recs
Re: New SUSA poll - Ohio General Election!

I just don't see how Obama can turn around his campaign at this point.  Ever since the youtube debate, it's been one disaster after another- and I think there will be more to come.

by reasonwarrior 2007-09-21 07:41PM | 0 recs


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